Too many pills, am I killing myself?

[Guest guest]

Hello all, I have posted once in the past and read all of your

posts. Some seem pretty educated on the Candida disease. I sometimes

think I am...but there are so many conflicting statements in books,

the internet, and word of mouth. I'm scheduled to see a doctor who

specializes in this but the appointment is not until the end of

June. I have started a diet and have been on it for two 1/2 months.

I also take lots of pills which might be a mistake. I rotate every

two weeks

this is an example of my two week rotation

-1 selenium a day

-2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

-3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

-2 SF722 pills a day

-3 Pau D'arco pills a day

-5 yeast fighters pills a day

-2 oil of oregano pills a day

-3 olive leaf pills

Now, after two weeks I switch and take the following:

-1 selenium a day

-2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

-3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

-5 yeast fighters pills

-3 caprilic acid pills

-3 cat's claw

-3 olive leaf extract pills

-2 garlic pills

Also, twice a week I will squeeze 15 drops of grapefruit seed

extract in a glass of water and drink that too. Am I taking this too

far? Am I killing an internal body part or my whole self? Thanks for

the help. By the way, the Pau D'aro tea makes me feel great I feel

so darn energized...like I want to bounce of walls.

DSB

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

Out of curiosity what are SF722 pills? Your rotating protocols sound

intense...are you also taking probiotics? From what I understand

taking the probiotics at opposite times as the rest what you are

taking is crucial, so all your antifungals etc...in the first half of

the day and your probiotics at bedtime or something to that affect. I

agree about Pau D'arco, it is a wonderful and I always feel great

when I drink it regularly. Which brand do you buy? Cheers, Azalyne

>Hello all, I have posted once in the past and read all of your

>posts. Some seem pretty educated on the Candida disease. I sometimes

>think I am...but there are so many conflicting statements in books,

>the internet, and word of mouth. I'm scheduled to see a doctor who

>specializes in this but the appointment is not until the end of

>June. I have started a diet and have been on it for two 1/2 months.

>I also take lots of pills which might be a mistake. I rotate every

>two weeks

>this is an example of my two week rotation

>

>-1 selenium a day

>-2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

>-3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

>-2 SF722 pills a day

>-3 Pau D'arco pills a day

>-5 yeast fighters pills a day

>-2 oil of oregano pills a day

>-3 olive leaf pills

>Now, after two weeks I switch and take the following:

>

>-1 selenium a day

>-2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

>-3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

>-5 yeast fighters pills

>-3 caprilic acid pills

>-3 cat's claw

>-3 olive leaf extract pills

>-2 garlic pills

>

>Also, twice a week I will squeeze 15 drops of grapefruit seed

>extract in a glass of water and drink that too. Am I taking this too

>far? Am I killing an internal body part or my whole self? Thanks for

>the help. By the way, the Pau D'aro tea makes me feel great I feel

>so darn energized...like I want to bounce of walls.

>

>DSB

>

>

--

" Women are like tea bags - you never know how strong they are till

you drop them in hot water. " --Eleanor Roosevelt

[Guest guest]

Sounds good to me. You have many different yeast killers in there, so

unless you are getting bad die off, good for you.

I only tried the pau d'arco pills, never the tea - seems I was missing

out :-)

Keen

Too many pills, am I killing myself?

Hello all, I have posted once in the past and read all of your

posts. Some seem pretty educated on the Candida disease. I sometimes

think I am...but there are so many conflicting statements in books,

the internet, and word of mouth. I'm scheduled to see a doctor who

specializes in this but the appointment is not until the end of

June. I have started a diet and have been on it for two 1/2 months.

I also take lots of pills which might be a mistake. I rotate every

two weeks

this is an example of my two week rotation

-1 selenium a day

-2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

-3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

-2 SF722 pills a day

-3 Pau D'arco pills a day

-5 yeast fighters pills a day

-2 oil of oregano pills a day

-3 olive leaf pills

Now, after two weeks I switch and take the following:

-1 selenium a day

-2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

-3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

-5 yeast fighters pills

-3 caprilic acid pills

-3 cat's claw

-3 olive leaf extract pills

-2 garlic pills

Also, twice a week I will squeeze 15 drops of grapefruit seed

extract in a glass of water and drink that too. Am I taking this too

far? Am I killing an internal body part or my whole self? Thanks for

the help. By the way, the Pau D'aro tea makes me feel great I feel

so darn energized...like I want to bounce of walls.

DSB

[Guest guest]

I, too, have recently started taking a lot of antifungals and having

no experience of die off, although I've been on the diet and other

recommended supplements for about 3 months.

A few questions, my die off in general, was not too bad - a little

lower leg cramping was about it. So what does this mean, if

anything? If one's die off isn't bad (and is strict with the diet)

does that mean one is not as sick?

Also does anyone know what is the role of exercise in all of this? I

have worked out consistently for years and wonder if that helped

lessen the severity of the die off, as sweating is certainly a good

way to remove toxins from the body.

Cheers,

[Guest guest]

How is your candida? With all this, I would think it should be gone

by now! I hope you're drinking lots of water. If you still have

symptoms then there is something else going on in your body like

possibly one or more of your detoxification pathways are not

functioning correctly or liver congestion. Do you feel clear-headed?

Mercury and candida overgrowth symptoms are almost the same and they

usually co-exist. Don't worry, none of this will kill you but it does

seem a bit excessive.

Sharon

>

> Hello all, I have posted once in the past and read all of your

> posts. Some seem pretty educated on the Candida disease. I sometimes

> think I am...but there are so many conflicting statements in books,

> the internet, and word of mouth. I'm scheduled to see a doctor who

> specializes in this but the appointment is not until the end of

> June. I have started a diet and have been on it for two 1/2 months.

> I also take lots of pills which might be a mistake. I rotate every

> two weeks

> this is an example of my two week rotation

>

> -1 selenium a day

> -2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

> -3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

> -2 SF722 pills a day

> -3 Pau D'arco pills a day

> -5 yeast fighters pills a day

> -2 oil of oregano pills a day

> -3 olive leaf pills

> Now, after two weeks I switch and take the following:

>

> -1 selenium a day

> -2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

> -3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

> -5 yeast fighters pills

> -3 caprilic acid pills

> -3 cat's claw

> -3 olive leaf extract pills

> -2 garlic pills

>

> Also, twice a week I will squeeze 15 drops of grapefruit seed

> extract in a glass of water and drink that too. Am I taking this too

> far? Am I killing an internal body part or my whole self? Thanks for

> the help. By the way, the Pau D'aro tea makes me feel great I feel

> so darn energized...like I want to bounce of walls.

>

> DSB

>

[Guest guest]

>Thanks for the feedback! I take Pau D'arco tea made by Traditional

Medicinals (caffeine free) from the Wild Oats organic store. SF722

promotes healthy gut flora and helps balance the bodies ph levels.

It gives serious die off if you follow the diet correctly. I'm

taking probiotics...just two a day called acidophilis bifidus. I

keep them in the frig. Thanks again

> Hi there,

> Out of curiosity what are SF722 pills? Your rotating protocols

sound

> intense...are you also taking probiotics? From what I understand

> taking the probiotics at opposite times as the rest what you are

> taking is crucial, so all your antifungals etc...in the first half

of

> the day and your probiotics at bedtime or something to that

affect. I

> agree about Pau D'arco, it is a wonderful and I always feel great

> when I drink it regularly. Which brand do you buy? Cheers, Azalyne

>

> >Hello all, I have posted once in the past and read all of your

> >posts. Some seem pretty educated on the Candida disease. I

sometimes

> >think I am...but there are so many conflicting statements in

books,

> >the internet, and word of mouth. I'm scheduled to see a doctor who

> >specializes in this but the appointment is not until the end of

> >June. I have started a diet and have been on it for two 1/2

months.

> >I also take lots of pills which might be a mistake. I rotate every

> >two weeks

> >this is an example of my two week rotation

> >

> >-1 selenium a day

> >-2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

> >-3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

> >-2 SF722 pills a day

> >-3 Pau D'arco pills a day

> >-5 yeast fighters pills a day

> >-2 oil of oregano pills a day

> >-3 olive leaf pills

> >Now, after two weeks I switch and take the following:

> >

> >-1 selenium a day

> >-2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

> >-3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

> >-5 yeast fighters pills

> >-3 caprilic acid pills

> >-3 cat's claw

> >-3 olive leaf extract pills

> >-2 garlic pills

> >

> >Also, twice a week I will squeeze 15 drops of grapefruit seed

> >extract in a glass of water and drink that too. Am I taking this

too

> >far? Am I killing an internal body part or my whole self? Thanks

for

> >the help. By the way, the Pau D'aro tea makes me feel great I feel

> >so darn energized...like I want to bounce of walls.

> >

> >DSB

> >

> >

>

>

> --

> " Women are like tea bags - you never know how strong they are till

> you drop them in hot water. " --Eleanor Roosevelt

>

>

[Guest guest]

What happens when you think your well and stop taking all the pills? Does the

candida and all of the symptoms just come back when we get back our " normal

life " ...or are we healed?

Keen Venables <kvenables@...> wrote: Sounds good to me. You

have many different yeast killers in there, so

unless you are getting bad die off, good for you.

I only tried the pau d'arco pills, never the tea - seems I was missing

out :-)

Keen

Too many pills, am I killing myself?

Hello all, I have posted once in the past and read all of your

posts. Some seem pretty educated on the Candida disease. I sometimes

think I am...but there are so many conflicting statements in books,

the internet, and word of mouth. I'm scheduled to see a doctor who

specializes in this but the appointment is not until the end of

June. I have started a diet and have been on it for two 1/2 months.

I also take lots of pills which might be a mistake. I rotate every

two weeks

this is an example of my two week rotation

-1 selenium a day

-2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

-3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

-2 SF722 pills a day

-3 Pau D'arco pills a day

-5 yeast fighters pills a day

-2 oil of oregano pills a day

-3 olive leaf pills

Now, after two weeks I switch and take the following:

-1 selenium a day

-2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

-3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

-5 yeast fighters pills

-3 caprilic acid pills

-3 cat's claw

-3 olive leaf extract pills

-2 garlic pills

Also, twice a week I will squeeze 15 drops of grapefruit seed

extract in a glass of water and drink that too. Am I taking this too

far? Am I killing an internal body part or my whole self? Thanks for

the help. By the way, the Pau D'aro tea makes me feel great I feel

so darn energized...like I want to bounce of walls.

DSB

[Guest guest]

On May 3, 2007, at 1:16 AM, Azalyne SkyeOlson wrote:

> Out of curiosity what are SF722 pills?

They are " Formula SF722 " from Thorne Research. It's

a formulation of undecylenic acid, which is around 6

times as effective as caprylic acid. Some people have

reported excellent results with the product.

Here's some info on undecylenic acid.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FDN/is_1_7/ai_83582819

Here's Thorne's web page (not much info).

http://www.thorne.com

Mike

[Guest guest]

Well, that's a hard question and one I'm not that sure of the answer to.

I'm not 100% healed as my leaky gut is still causing major problems.

But I would say that common sense says that you should be on some sort

of maintenance diet and dosage for a while.

This is how I would do it - reduce the numbers of pills being taken (for

instance, cut the anti-fungals out and rather pay more attention to

nutrition), start to slowly re-introduce foods that you had a problem

with. Take it slowly and test out the waters. I think that you might

always be prone to a candida overgrowth, so you must be careful not to

overdo the sugar. Healthy eating should be second nature by now, so

probably a good idea to continue. Allowing yourself to have some

unhealthy things (not too often, I would say) shouldn't be a problem.

If you get a resurgence, then a month or so back on the anti-fungals

should probably do it.

Of course, this is speculation as we are not there yet.

Keen

Too many pills, am I killing myself?

Hello all, I have posted once in the past and read all of your

posts. Some seem pretty educated on the Candida disease. I sometimes

think I am...but there are so many conflicting statements in books,

the internet, and word of mouth. I'm scheduled to see a doctor who

specializes in this but the appointment is not until the end of

June. I have started a diet and have been on it for two 1/2 months.

I also take lots of pills which might be a mistake. I rotate every

two weeks

this is an example of my two week rotation

-1 selenium a day

-2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

-3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

-2 SF722 pills a day

-3 Pau D'arco pills a day

-5 yeast fighters pills a day

-2 oil of oregano pills a day

-3 olive leaf pills

Now, after two weeks I switch and take the following:

-1 selenium a day

-2 tablespoons of Inulin a day

-3 cups of Pau D'arco tea

-5 yeast fighters pills

-3 caprilic acid pills

-3 cat's claw

-3 olive leaf extract pills

-2 garlic pills

Also, twice a week I will squeeze 15 drops of grapefruit seed

extract in a glass of water and drink that too. Am I taking this too

far? Am I killing an internal body part or my whole self? Thanks for

the help. By the way, the Pau D'aro tea makes me feel great I feel

so darn energized...like I want to bounce of walls.

DSB

[Guest guest]

SF-722 was one of the antifungals I used, and I found it to be very effective.

W

[Guest guest]

On May 3, 2007, at 1:21 PM, lulu2235 wrote:

> A few questions, my die off in general, was not too bad - a little

> lower leg cramping was about it. So what does this mean, if

> anything? If one's die off isn't bad (and is strict with the diet)

> does that mean one is not as sick?

Leg cramps can be a side effect of a low-carb diet. When you lower

your carb intake, your insulin level drops. Insulin causes your cells

to hold onto sodium, so a lowered insulin level causes you to flush

sodium out of your system. Potassium and other electrolytes can go

with the sodium, which leaves you in an imbalance that causes cramps.

The low-carb references recommend taking potassium, calcium, and

magnesium during the initial phase of the diet.

> Also does anyone know what is the role of exercise in all of this? I

> have worked out consistently for years and wonder if that helped

> lessen the severity of the die off, as sweating is certainly a good

> way to remove toxins from the body.

I find that exercise helps me stay on the diet, reduces cravings, and

improves my sense of well-being. When I go on a low-carb diet (which

I've gone on and off at least a dozen times), the first couple of

weeks are much easier when I've been exercising.

Mike