Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Hi, I use it. I've read it's OK on the candida diet, but then some candida diets don't allow any grains at all. Vicky > > Does any one in the list use Buck wheat? I was given a recipe which uses Buckwheat flourr to make GFCF bread. Any idea if it might it increase candida. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Buck wheat seems OK, even with breakfast. See Candida FAQ - http://www.candida-albicans-cure.com/candida-faq.html ============================================ multitoed wrote: > Hi, I use it. I've read it's OK on the candida diet, but then some > candida diets don't allow any grains at all. > > Vicky > > > >> Does any one in the list use Buck wheat? I was given a recipe which >> > uses Buckwheat flourr to make GFCF bread. Any idea if it might it > increase candida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Buckwheat as well as all the other grains is eaten by candida and many other pathogens that we're trying to curb in this exercise. Starch is starch. Duncan > > > >> Does any one in the list use Buck wheat? I was given a recipe which > >> > > uses Buckwheat flourr to make GFCF bread. Any idea if it might it > > increase candida. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 > > Buckwheat as well as all the other grains is eaten by candida and > many other pathogens that we're trying to curb in this exercise. > Starch is starch. > > Duncan > Hi Duncanh I understand why you are saying this but many other specialists who treat Candida say its ok to eat complex carbs that are much more slowly digested. Do you disagree with this? Currently I am getting by on about 65mgs daily of carbs but I do have to eat a little ryvita crispbread for breaksfast with my good fats and protein and again need a no sugar oatcake with good fats and protein as a snack midmorning and midafternoon, because of my adrenal insufficiency I just cannot get by without it. My blood sugar would be too low and I would feel like death. Because of this do you think it would be a good idea to take some 50mg Diflucan several times a week in addition to the Caprylic Acid, Garlic and probiotics? I am getting some inulin in the Musceleze powder I take each day but will try and buy a stronger version but not sure how easy this is in the UK. I appreciate all your help. My energy is still definitely better and I am sleeping much better too but still have a very stubborn vaginal discharge but guess I am going to have to be very patient. BW Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I understand that wheat needs to be avoided. My son's Occupational therapist had suggested Quinoa, Millet, Arrowroot, Tapioca and Amaranth flours. She also suggested use of Brown rice flour which is the substitute that is used in most Gluten-free products. I think the amount of starch varies but all of these abovesaid grains/roots have them. Her suggestion is to rotate these flours. My dilemma is that it is hard to put a 11yr old on a no-grain diet completely. Although his diet consists of mostly protein, vegetables and small amount of grain, he still acts lethargic. I give grape seed extract twice and week. He drinks whey/selenium/inulin every night. Do I need to increase the quantity of whey? Any suggestions Duncan/others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Yes I disagree with the experts who think complex carb meals are OK for people with candidiasis, and I'm not the only one; many people who had candida could not get well without eliminating these foods. Thing is that even though those carbs are slowly digested by you they are quickly fermented by all kinds of pathogens. All you have to do is read the research and even read fermentation techniques that use complex carbs as the substrate. I think eating more vegetables will surely give you the carbs you're currently taking in as oats and rye. Your adrenal insufficiency could be caused by eatig those toxin-producing foods (toxins relate to dysbiosis). I don't know about diflucan; ask the rest of the group. And I only suggest a good probiotic for people who really feel the need to supplement with inulin, the hugely successful probiotic increaser you should be taking. Inlin dose is about 12-15 grams daily; you'll have to work out your blend and see what inulin it actually contains. all good, Duncan > > > > Buckwheat as well as all the other grains is eaten by candida and > > many other pathogens that we're trying to curb in this exercise. > > Starch is starch. > > > > Duncan > > > Hi Duncanh > > I understand why you are saying this but many other specialists who > treat Candida say its ok to eat complex carbs that are much more > slowly digested. Do you disagree with this? > > Currently I am getting by on about 65mgs daily of carbs but I do have > to eat a little ryvita crispbread for breaksfast with my good fats > and protein and again need a no sugar oatcake with good fats and > protein as a snack midmorning and midafternoon, because of my adrenal > insufficiency I just cannot get by without it. My blood sugar would > be too low and I would feel like death. > > Because of this do you think it would be a good idea to take some > 50mg Diflucan several times a week in addition to the Caprylic Acid, > Garlic and probiotics? I am getting some inulin in the Musceleze > powder I take each day but will try and buy a stronger version but > not sure how easy this is in the UK. > > I appreciate all your help. My energy is still definitely better and > I am sleeping much better too but still have a very stubborn vaginal > discharge but guess I am going to have to be very patient. > > BW > Pam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Regarding buckwheat I'm of the understanding that it is not a grain, but actually a vegetable with similarities to grains. I don't have any problems eating it. ita > > > > Buckwheat as well as all the other grains is eaten by candida and > > many other pathogens that we're trying to curb in this exercise. > > Starch is starch. > > > > Duncan > > > Hi Duncanh > > I understand why you are saying this but many other specialists who > treat Candida say its ok to eat complex carbs that are much more > slowly digested. Do you disagree with this? > > Currently I am getting by on about 65mgs daily of carbs but I do have > to eat a little ryvita crispbread for breaksfast with my good fats > and protein and again need a no sugar oatcake with good fats and > protein as a snack midmorning and midafternoon, because of my adrenal > insufficiency I just cannot get by without it. My blood sugar would > be too low and I would feel like death. > > Because of this do you think it would be a good idea to take some > 50mg Diflucan several times a week in addition to the Caprylic Acid, > Garlic and probiotics? I am getting some inulin in the Musceleze > powder I take each day but will try and buy a stronger version but > not sure how easy this is in the UK. > > I appreciate all your help. My energy is still definitely better and > I am sleeping much better too but still have a very stubborn vaginal > discharge but guess I am going to have to be very patient. > > BW > Pam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 ita, the point is that even whole buckwheat groats contain 55% starch, while commercial 'Fancy' buckwheat flour contains 75% starch. Here's an analysis of buckwheat: http://espace.library.uq.edu.au/view/UQ:114608 The 2% additional fermentable solubles are 55% sucrose and 40% fagopyritols; both are sugars. Sucrose, a fructose=glucose disaccharide, is legendary for requiring avoidance, so we'll leave it at that. The fagopyritols in buckwheat are are mono-, di-, and tri- galactosyl (galactose). Here's how the fermentation of galactose by candida albicans occurs: http://www.genome.jp/dbget-bin/get_pathway?org_name=cal & mapno=00052 Note candida converts galactose into glucose for fermentation. Also, being a legume, buckwheat contains stachyose and raffinose, two sugars that are known to feed sulfide-fixing bacteria. Sulfides tend to re-insert mercyury that was destined for purging in the stool, back into the bowel lining. This of course will tend to recirculate the mercury you're trying to get rid of, and it also suppresses correct biological function of the gut lining. Whatever you justify is not my concern; one or more list members even persists on eating white rice despite their infection -- what concerns me is the promotion of this carb-heavy food as safe for everyone with candida, which it is not. All good, Duncan > > > > > > Buckwheat as well as all the other grains is eaten by candida and > > > many other pathogens that we're trying to curb in this exercise. > > > Starch is starch. > > > > > > Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Duncan, aside from the lack of whey (which I agree seems to work for some people), would you agree that the diet I recommend is appropriate for those with candida? http://www.naturallythriving.com/basics/cfdfoods.php Luv, Debby in San , CA 147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues reversed! Currently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in Psychology Group: curingcandida/ Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com ----- Original Message ---- > From: Duncan Crow > ita, the point is that even whole buckwheat groats contain 55% > starch, while commercial 'Fancy' buckwheat flour contains 75% starch. > > Here's an analysis of buckwheat: > http://espace.library.uq.edu.au/view/UQ:114608 > > The 2% additional fermentable solubles are 55% sucrose and 40% > fagopyritols; both are sugars. Sucrose, a fructose=glucose > disaccharide, is legendary for requiring avoidance, so we'll leave it > at that. The fagopyritols in buckwheat are are mono-, di-, and tri- > galactosyl (galactose). Here's how the fermentation of galactose by > candida albicans occurs: > http://www.genome.jp/dbget-bin/get_pathway?org_name=cal & mapno=00052 > > Note candida converts galactose into glucose for fermentation. > > Also, being a legume, buckwheat contains stachyose and raffinose, two > sugars that are known to feed sulfide-fixing bacteria. Sulfides tend > to re-insert mercyury that was destined for purging in the stool, > back into the bowel lining. This of course will tend to recirculate > the mercury you're trying to get rid of, and it also suppresses > correct biological function of the gut lining. > > Whatever you justify is not my concern; one or more list members even > persists on eating white rice despite their infection -- what > concerns me is the promotion of this carb-heavy food as safe for > everyone with candida, which it is not. > > All good, > > Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Yes Debby I think the list is OK, but specific mention should be made of the whey, selenium and inulin. If the person does not choose some inulin-containing foods from your list their cure would probably take a lot longer; similarly, the whey is a potent neutralizer of toxins trying to corrupt the cell walls of the intestinal lining so can be tremendously healing. Duncan > > Duncan, aside from the lack of whey (which I agree seems to work for some people), would you agree that the diet I recommend is appropriate for those with candida? > > http://www.naturallythriving.com/basics/cfdfoods.php > > Luv, > Debby in San , CA > 147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues reversed! > Currently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in Psychology > Group: curingcandida/ > Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Duncan Crow > > > ita, the point is that even whole buckwheat groats contain 55% > > starch, while commercial 'Fancy' buckwheat flour contains 75% starch. > > > > Here's an analysis of buckwheat: > > http://espace.library.uq.edu.au/view/UQ:114608 > > > > The 2% additional fermentable solubles are 55% sucrose and 40% > > fagopyritols; both are sugars. Sucrose, a fructose=glucose > > disaccharide, is legendary for requiring avoidance, so we'll leave it > > at that. The fagopyritols in buckwheat are are mono-, di-, and tri- > > galactosyl (galactose). Here's how the fermentation of galactose by > > candida albicans occurs: > > http://www.genome.jp/dbget-bin/get_pathway? org_name=cal & mapno=00052 > > > > Note candida converts galactose into glucose for fermentation. > > > > Also, being a legume, buckwheat contains stachyose and raffinose, two > > sugars that are known to feed sulfide-fixing bacteria. Sulfides tend > > to re-insert mercyury that was destined for purging in the stool, > > back into the bowel lining. This of course will tend to recirculate > > the mercury you're trying to get rid of, and it also suppresses > > correct biological function of the gut lining. > > > > Whatever you justify is not my concern; one or more list members even > > persists on eating white rice despite their infection -- what > > concerns me is the promotion of this carb-heavy food as safe for > > everyone with candida, which it is not. > > > > All good, > > > > Duncan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Right, that is why I said besides the lack of whey. I was able to cure my candida without it and I don't tolerate dairy at all, but it did take me a while. Luv, Debby in San , CA 147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues reversed! Currently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in Psychology Group: curingcandida/ Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com ----- Original Message ---- > From: Duncan Crow > > Yes Debby I think the list is OK, but specific mention should be made > of the whey, selenium and inulin. If the person does not choose some > inulin-containing foods from your list their cure would probably take > a lot longer; similarly, the whey is a potent neutralizer of toxins > trying to corrupt the cell walls of the intestinal lining so can be > tremendously healing. > > Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Whey & selenium have certainly done a lot in healing my gut. I'm judging by the movements and the decreased IBS (trying not to be too graphic), as I haven't had any medical tests done. Still working on the inulin, as I think it makes me detox some. I preach the " gospel " of whey/selenium/inulin to whomever crosses my path. :-) I only wish I'd found Duncan's website 10+ years ago! Joanna P. > > Yes Debby I think the list is OK, but specific mention should be made > of the whey, selenium and inulin. If the person does not choose some > inulin-containing foods from your list their cure would probably take > a lot longer; similarly, the whey is a potent neutralizer of toxins > trying to corrupt the cell walls of the intestinal lining so can be > tremendously healing. > > Duncan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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