Re: liver/gallbladder flush while nursing?

[Guest guest]

Sources on the net seems to be very split as to the safety of this. Duncan,

and

others, your opinions would be appreciated.

[Guest guest]

In my opinion the flush should be safe for practically everyone

because it induces normal bodily functions. The gallbladder squeezes

every time you eat fatanyway, the diarrhea has been visited on us all,

and the relaxation from magnesium intake has not been shown to be

toxic or anything when used periodically, which it has been, as a dose

of salts, for ages.

Duncan

>

> Sources on the net seems to be very split as to the safety of this.

Duncan, and

> others, your opinions would be appreciated.

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Are there any contraindiactions for doing a liver/gallbladder

flush while nursing or

> pregnant (I'm nursing now but may be pregnant some time in the

near future)?

> Any alterations or special instructions?

> Thanks,

>

Hi ,

I've breastfed 7 children and have always been very sure that

any detox you do on the body while feeding will result in some

of the toxins washing out of the body through the milk. Please

before you try any detox, check this out thoroughly. No baby

deserves to get its mother's toxic waste. How very special and

precious is the act of love of nourishing your own child with

your own body. All the best.

Bez Albrecht.

[Guest guest]

That being said, Bez, the body has avenues for toxic waste, and

breast milk is not one of those avenues. The question referred to the

safety of liver flushes and the magnesium used; this should not

induce any toxin purging at all into milk, and should IMO reduce that

because they facilitate the liver's breaking them down and also

purging them into the stool instead.

Duncan

> >

> > Are there any contraindiactions for doing a liver/gallbladder

> flush while nursing or

> > pregnant (I'm nursing now but may be pregnant some time in the

> near future)?

> > Any alterations or special instructions?

> > Thanks,

> >

>

> Hi ,

>

> I've breastfed 7 children and have always been very sure that

> any detox you do on the body while feeding will result in some

> of the toxins washing out of the body through the milk. Please

> before you try any detox, check this out thoroughly. No baby

> deserves to get its mother's toxic waste. How very special and

> precious is the act of love of nourishing your own child with

> your own body. All the best.

>

> Bez Albrecht.

>

[Guest guest]

If there is any doubt regarding the safety of liver/gallbladder while

nursing, or especially when pregnant, then I would say don't do it. Do you

really want to take chances with the well being of your unborn baby?

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[Guest guest]

Well, I tried the Kelley flush last night, but didn't see any stones this

morning!?! Also my

tounge looks just as toxic as ever. So I have more questions, as a result.

First, I skipped

the apple juice and phosporic acid, per Duncan's earlier post that this is

acceptable. I also

made a few changes, as written below. Questions are:

1) I wasn't really strict with the timing. Some sources say this is critical. IS

it really that

critical? For example, Instead of being done eating by 1pm, I was done at 3. I

took 2tbls

MgSO4 at 5ish, did the coffee enema at 7ish, next MgSO4 dose around 8, ate

something

(see question 2 below) around 9:30, then drank the oil close to midnight. Could

this have

caused problems?

2) Since I'm eating a strict anti-candida diet, I was not going to eat the

cream/fruit/ice

cream as reccommended. Instead, I ate my " whey shake " as I felt it would

approximate a

high fat dairy snack. Ingredients: 25g whey, 2tbls butter, 2tbls coconut oil, 1

heaping tsp

inulin, vanilla extract, in ~12 oz water. Could this have caused problems?

3) Once the MgSO4 started kicking in, I knew the potential for dehydration was

very real,

as it felt as though all the water in my body was being sucked into my

intestines. So, I

drank a large volume of salty lemon water (to replace electrolytes) and salty

broth to

counteract this. But reading other liver flush protocols, I found one that said

not to eat OR

drink anything after 2pm. Could drinking alot have caused problems with the

flush? Is it

not wise to be concerned about the dehydation from the MgSO4?

4) Finally, once I laid face down with my right leg up for the 30 minutes, I

didn't hear

anything going on in my body. BUT when the timer went off, I went to the

bathroom, then

went to bed, laying on my back. At this point, there was ALOT of activity,

squishing, etc.

Could this be the source of problems?

Since I have read that most people who do not see stones have a false negative,

I plan to

try again in about 4wks, so any help " refining " my techniques would be helpful.

I suspect

there were problems with my routine. Please bear in mind that I am a nursing

momma so

things like fasting are not an option for me. Also I cannot wait to wean my son

as I plan to

nurse him until I am pregnant with my next child. Finally, I am not willing to

ingest

anything like apple juice that would perpetuate dysbiosis.

Thank you Duncan (and others) for your help.

[Guest guest]

One more thing...several souces say to eat a no-fat breakfast and lunch the day

of the

flush. Almost nothing I am eating on my candida diet is no-fat, and the only low

fat things

would be sardines, chicken breast, maybe some cuts of red meat, and vegetables.

How

critical is this issue?

Thanks again,

[Guest guest]

The more I check into this, the more it seems that the flush is very safe to do,

and Duncan

agrees per his post. It just makes sense to clean up my own body, as the health

of my

children is directly related to my own health. But thanks for the concern.

[Guest guest]

I am not familar with this flush, I did the Hulda one, and rather than

apple juice, you take Malic Acid caps for 5 days before you start the flush

(which is why I haven't redone it yet, becuase I keep FORGETTING to start

the Malic Acid caps!)

With the Hulda one, you finish eating at 1, eat low-fat for the week

prior and take the malic acid. You juice 1.5 grapefruits, mix with epsom

salts and chug it down. Do it again in so many hours (I've forgotten, not n

front of me at the moment), then before bedtime you do it again with olive

oil. Then you lay on your right side and sleep that way for the night. Have

one more dose in the am, then can continue eating normally around noonish.

I am hypoglycemic, and was VERY surprised that I didn't feel worse without

eating, but I did OK. I didn't see any stones either, and I followed the

protocol to the letter.

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> Well, I tried the Kelley flush last night, but didn't see any stones this

> morning!?! Also my

> tounge looks just as toxic as ever. So I have more questions, as a result.

> First, I skipped

> the apple juice and phosporic acid, per Duncan's earlier post that this is

> acceptable. I also

> made a few changes, as written below. Questions are:

[Guest guest]

Hi! Sorry to hear the flush didn't produce any stones for you, that's

dissapointing. I'm also a nursing mom and have done 2 liver flushes.

The first one I did was s Moritz's flush in the files section. I

used the Malic Acid for 6 days instead of the apple juice and followed

the timing very closely, I had alot of stones, I was amazed! I ate

normally for the preceding week but had a low fat lunch the day of the

flush, chicken breast and steamed veggies and I broke the fast the

following day with steamed veggies. I didn't notice a drop in milk

supply at all. the fast is only a half day. I actually enjoyed the

grapefruit/olive oil concoction, it was delicious.

THe second one I did was the flush, I was off on my timing but

did follow the steps and I had very few stones. So the timing seems to

be important.

My dh also did a L/G flush and delayed the timing a couple hours and he

had some stones but not alot.

I am doing another one on the full moon this month and I am going to go

with the s Moritz flush. He also recommends not eating any cold

foods for a week before the flush, I will try that, too. I'll let you

know how it goes.

Best Wishes,

[Guest guest]

For some reason I cannot open the s Moritz file....guess I'll try later,

but I'd like to

look at this protocol. I too plan on doing another flush around the full moon,

as that

would be two weeks from my first flush. And as it turns out, I did get a few

tiny greenish

stones later in the day after I posted that I had none. I am definitely

encouraged to try

again! Thanks !

[Guest guest]

I think you did it all right, . No stones on the first flush is

usually a false reading. The flushes are usually repeated several to

a dozen or so times a couple or so weeks apart.

Duncan

>

> Well, I tried the Kelley flush last night, but didn't see any

stones this morning!?! Also my

> tounge looks just as toxic as ever. So I have more questions, as a

result. First, I skipped

> the apple juice and phosporic acid, per Duncan's earlier post that

this is acceptable. I also

> made a few changes, as written below. Questions are:

> 1) I wasn't really strict with the timing. Some sources say this is

critical. IS it really that

> critical? For example, Instead of being done eating by 1pm, I was

done at 3. I took 2tbls

> MgSO4 at 5ish, did the coffee enema at 7ish, next MgSO4 dose around

8, ate something

> (see question 2 below) around 9:30, then drank the oil close to

midnight. Could this have

> caused problems?

> 2) Since I'm eating a strict anti-candida diet, I was not going to

eat the cream/fruit/ice

> cream as reccommended. Instead, I ate my " whey shake " as I felt it

would approximate a

> high fat dairy snack. Ingredients: 25g whey, 2tbls butter, 2tbls

coconut oil, 1 heaping tsp

> inulin, vanilla extract, in ~12 oz water. Could this have caused

problems?

> 3) Once the MgSO4 started kicking in, I knew the potential for

dehydration was very real,

> as it felt as though all the water in my body was being sucked into

my intestines. So, I

> drank a large volume of salty lemon water (to replace electrolytes)

and salty broth to

> counteract this. But reading other liver flush protocols, I found

one that said not to eat OR

> drink anything after 2pm. Could drinking alot have caused problems

with the flush? Is it

> not wise to be concerned about the dehydation from the MgSO4?

> 4) Finally, once I laid face down with my right leg up for the 30

minutes, I didn't hear

> anything going on in my body. BUT when the timer went off, I went

to the bathroom, then

> went to bed, laying on my back. At this point, there was ALOT of

activity, squishing, etc.

> Could this be the source of problems?

>

> Since I have read that most people who do not see stones have a

false negative, I plan to

> try again in about 4wks, so any help " refining " my techniques would

be helpful. I suspect

> there were problems with my routine. Please bear in mind that I am

a nursing momma so

> things like fasting are not an option for me. Also I cannot wait to

wean my son as I plan to

> nurse him until I am pregnant with my next child. Finally, I am not

willing to ingest

> anything like apple juice that would perpetuate dysbiosis.

>

> Thank you Duncan (and others) for your help.

>

>

[Guest guest]

When an approach contains no danger, one should not be confused by

anyone's unnecessary fear either

People have been using all those ingredients since time immemorial

without mishap.

Duncan

>

> If there is any doubt regarding the safety of liver/gallbladder

while

> nursing, or especially when pregnant, then I would say don't do it.

Do you

> really want to take chances with the well being of your unborn baby?

>

>

>

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