Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Ok ...today i bought whey and am totally confused. I bought a brand called designer protein whey vanilla praline flavor. I asked all of th question which duncan brough up to me and they kinda said that this kind was what i was looking for. It does not taste that bad and i hope i see something good out of this as it took me such a long time to try this. The did indicate that it was used to prevent cancer and a ton of other things because of the amino acids( i think ?) It has a ton of nutrients in it so it looks good. I will let you know how i feel as i take this for anyone who was unsure of it. Is there anything i should know with regard to the type i bought as i only purchased a small container? Also how often should i drink this chake? sue ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Hi, Are you taking Whey for Candida reasons? Increased glutathione levels? Because, at the moment I am taking Reflex instant whey (Purely because I had it from previous weight training regimes) with my selenium capsules, in order to raise glutathione levels. Having done lots of research, there are actually two types of denatured Whey apparently. 1. The usual cheap (in comparrisson) stuff, that just has the denatured bits filtered out. Which still loses some of the required nutrients ion the process 2. The expensive, cold processed milk originating undmaged/undenatured whey. Which doesnt need to be filtered because it doesnt contain any damaged molecules and retains all nutritional value I notice a definite difference when taking selenium with food, or taking it with my normal reflex whey. So im guessing that some whey is better than no Whey. In reference to point " 2. " , there is a product called immunepro. Expensive at £38 for 300g, compared to normal wheys that are £25 for 908g. The dose for immunepro is 5g per day. For this to be economical then it would need to be twice as potent as this commercial undenatured whey I have been looking at. Also made by reflex, it claims to be undenatured and the most potent form available. Although this claim is based on protein absorbtion and on the basis of sports nutrition. I think the Immunepro may be more suited because it contains more Glutathione precursors. However, I am slightly confused, and holding back my purchaseof immunepro until I can get some more opinions. > > > Ok ...today i bought whey and am totally confused. I > bought a brand called designer protein whey vanilla > praline flavor. I asked all of th question which > duncan brough up to me and they kinda said that this > kind was what i was looking for. > > It does not taste that bad and i hope i see something > good out of this as it took me such a long time to try > this. > > The did indicate that it was used to prevent cancer > and a ton of other things because of the amino acids( > i think ?) > > It has a ton of nutrients in it so it looks good. > > I will let you know how i feel as i take this for > anyone who was unsure of it. > > Is there anything i should know with regard to the > type i bought as i only purchased a small container? > > Also how often should i drink this chake? > > sue > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. > http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 --- Hi, I tried they whey because of the nutrient content in it and the fact that it has been used to treat cancers which i HAD ! last year. I am very confused as to the type or brand to take, so i trusted my health food store. Does anyone have any conclusive opinion as to which brand is best to take? I am looking for any advice from someone who has take it and seen results. Also why ar eyou taking the selenium? I just began to increase my intake yesterday. I had lotx of gas last night, was that fromthe whey i assume, or the selenium increase. sue ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv./collections/222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Dont worry about the gas. It is most likely the high protein content of the whey which is causing it. I suggest you amend your dosages accordingly. Selenium detoxes the body. I thought I had mental illness from excessive drugs usage in younger years. But no, it was just a toxic or free radical build up, which diminished within 2 days and 600mcg per day of selenium.Although it was re-instated by coffee. I wander if these are the toxic products of candida, or maybe another parasite. > > > --- > Hi, > > I tried they whey because of the nutrient content in > it and the fact that it has been used to treat cancers > which i HAD ! last year. > > I am very confused as to the type or brand to take, so > i trusted my health food store. > > Does anyone have any conclusive opinion as to which > brand is best to take? > > I am looking for any advice from someone who has take > it and seen results. > > Also why ar eyou taking the selenium? I just began to > increase my intake yesterday. > > I had lotx of gas last night, was that fromthe whey i > assume, or the selenium increase. > > sue > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > http://tv./collections/222 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Sue, the reason the undenatured whey helps to prevent a lot of diseases, possibly cancer included, is that it is a good source of precursors for the body's master antioxiant and detoxifier, glutathione, which only requires three of the couple of dozen or so amino acids in the whey, plus selenium. BUT this precursor quality of the whey MUST be preserved of course, and that's why specifically undenatured whey has been chosen as a health food. I hope your selection is not spiked with sugar and starch. Two heaping TBSP in a glass of water twice daily is ballpark dose. Duncan > > > Ok ...today i bought whey and am totally confused. I > bought a brand called designer protein whey vanilla > praline flavor. I asked all of th question which > duncan brough up to me and they kinda said that this > kind was what i was looking for. > > It does not taste that bad and i hope i see something > good out of this as it took me such a long time to try > this. > > The did indicate that it was used to prevent cancer > and a ton of other things because of the amino acids( > i think ?) > > It has a ton of nutrients in it so it looks good. > > I will let you know how i feel as i take this for > anyone who was unsure of it. > > Is there anything i should know with regard to the > type i bought as i only purchased a small container? > > Also how often should i drink this chake? > > sue > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. > http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Tuney, you can find out exactly what glutathione precursor amounts are in ANY whey by using the data the manufacturer provides you and following the instruction at the bottom of this page: http://tinyurl.com/cuzcc You'll find the designer brands Immmunocal, ImmunPlex, Immune Pro Rx and a couple of others are NOT twice as potent as the other glutathione producers we are using, although they are about four to eight times more expensive. I have removed them from my web page and in good conscience I no longer sell them. Duncan > > > > > > Ok ...today i bought whey and am totally confused. I > > bought a brand called designer protein whey vanilla > > praline flavor. I asked all of th question which > > duncan brough up to me and they kinda said that this > > kind was what i was looking for. > > > > It does not taste that bad and i hope i see something > > good out of this as it took me such a long time to try > > this. > > > > The did indicate that it was used to prevent cancer > > and a ton of other things because of the amino acids( > > i think ?) > > > > It has a ton of nutrients in it so it looks good. > > > > I will let you know how i feel as i take this for > > anyone who was unsure of it. > > > > Is there anything i should know with regard to the > > type i bought as i only purchased a small container? > > > > Also how often should i drink this chake? > > > > sue > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's > updated for today's economy) at Games. > > http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Thanks Duncan, Ive spent a decent amount of time looking at the types of undenatured whey. It does seem as though the immune orientated are no better, therefore unjustifiably more expensive than the body buliding/sports orientated, types of undenatured whey. But just for good measure, please comment on the suitability of this product, should you find the available time. It does contain digestive enzymes, although I read on one website that its better to take the whey with low stomache acids and enzymeS? Im not quite sure why, but please do explain if you see necessary. Cheers again Duncan, Link below http://www.gymratz.co.uk/bodybuilding-supplements/item135.htm > > > > > > > > > Ok ...today i bought whey and am totally confused. I > > > bought a brand called designer protein whey vanilla > > > praline flavor. I asked all of th question which > > > duncan brough up to me and they kinda said that this > > > kind was what i was looking for. > > > > > > It does not taste that bad and i hope i see something > > > good out of this as it took me such a long time to try > > > this. > > > > > > The did indicate that it was used to prevent cancer > > > and a ton of other things because of the amino acids( > > > i think ?) > > > > > > It has a ton of nutrients in it so it looks good. > > > > > > I will let you know how i feel as i take this for > > > anyone who was unsure of it. > > > > > > Is there anything i should know with regard to the > > > type i bought as i only purchased a small container? > > > > > > Also how often should i drink this chake? > > > > > > sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's > > updated for today's economy) at Games. > > > http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 duncan It has 2 grams of sugars, the brand name is designer whey, and the carbs are 2 grams also. I brought all of the points that yo u mentioned to the health food store with me and they directed me to this brand. they gave me tons to read on it also. Is there another brand which you would recommend? This one is vanilla and the taste is kinda good. I make it only with water and crushed ice, kinda like smoothie. I added strawberries to it today and it was good. My family is drinking it up. Both my kids are gym rats so they made it with banannas and peanut butter and drank it before goin to the gym I am taking it just for the sole purpose of the nutrients and hopefully preventing cancer from returning. Would it make you produce more gas, seems like that his happeneing. sue ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Duncan, whay doy ou not recommend the designer whey. You mentioned to someone else in a post that you removed it from your page. Do you sell whey? If so where can i read on it? sue ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=summer+activities+for+kids & cs=bz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Tuney, enzymes are used in some wheys to speed breakdown and absorption of protein; this is independent of absorption of the glutathione precursor peptides, which are small enough to absorb as they are. Stomach acids would also help to break down protein, but again this step is not necessary for glutathione precursors. I don't know why anyone would suggest trying to get the stomach acid low prior to drinking whey, but I can say that the whey might do that anyway, and if a person has low stomach acid, enzymes and betaine HCl can be used to reduce any GERD (reflux) they might experience with a large draught of fairly alkaline shake. We don't know what the glutathione precursor content of this product is. Duncan > But just for good measure, please comment on the suitability of this > product, should you find the available time. > > It does contain digestive enzymes, although I read on one website > that its better to take the whey with low stomache acids and enzymeS? > Im not quite sure why, but please do explain if you see necessary. > > Cheers again Duncan, Link below > > http://www.gymratz.co.uk/bodybuilding-supplements/item135.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok ...today i bought whey and am totally confused. I > > > > bought a brand called designer protein whey vanilla > > > > praline flavor. I asked all of th question which > > > > duncan brough up to me and they kinda said that this > > > > kind was what i was looking for. > > > > > > > > It does not taste that bad and i hope i see something > > > > good out of this as it took me such a long time to try > > > > this. > > > > > > > > The did indicate that it was used to prevent cancer > > > > and a ton of other things because of the amino acids( > > > > i think ?) > > > > > > > > It has a ton of nutrients in it so it looks good. > > > > > > > > I will let you know how i feel as i take this for > > > > anyone who was unsure of it. > > > > > > > > Is there anything i should know with regard to the > > > > type i bought as i only purchased a small container? > > > > > > > > Also how often should i drink this chake? > > > > > > > > sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ______________ > > > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's > > > updated for today's economy) at Games. > > > > http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Sue, the whey you have, normal differences aside, fits the general theme for an undenatured product. Some people experience a heaviness or a feeling of gas from whey, but they become accustomed to it or it reduces in time. Maybe the 2G sugar is giving the dysbiosis a bit of a burst. Duncan > > > duncan > > It has 2 grams of sugars, the brand name is designer > whey, and the carbs are 2 grams also. > > I brought all of the points that yo u mentioned to the > health food store with me and they directed me to this > brand. they gave me tons to read on it also. > > Is there another brand which you would recommend? > This one is vanilla and the taste is kinda good. I > make it only with water and crushed ice, kinda like > smoothie. I added strawberries to it today and it was > good. My family is drinking it up. Both my kids are > gym rats so they made it with banannas and peanut > butter and drank it before goin to the gym > > I am taking it just for the sole purpose of the > nutrients and hopefully preventing cancer from > returning. > > Would it make you produce more gas, seems like that > his happeneing. > > sue > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Yes, Sue, I sell whey at http://tinyurl.com/cuzcc ...I used to sell Designer Whey but found better deals to show people. I don't offer all the good products directly but my whey links enter a couple of large distributors's sites that probably stock Designer Whey and many others; you can run a search on their rather extensive catalogues. Duncan > > Duncan, > > whay doy ou not recommend the designer whey. > > You mentioned to someone else in a post that you > removed it from your page. > > Do you sell whey? > > If so where can i read on it? > > sue > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > http://search./search? fr=oni_on_mail & p=summer+activities+for+kids & cs=bz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 --- sue <tauttodream@...> wrote: > I had lotx of gas last night, was that fromthe whey > i > assume, or the selenium increase. Probably from the whey, but what it means is hard to say. You can get gas from die-off, when candida and other bacteria die-off. But you can also get gas when your body has a hard time digesting something. They say the gas tends to die down after a week or two. Luv, Debby San , CA 380/238/180 ------------- The chief cause of failure and unhappiness is trading what you want most for what you want now. -- Zig Ziglar New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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