Re: Ionic foot baths - psuedo science?

January 10, 2007

good info! i've been also trying to see if it's real or not....

i have another question about it though...how come each person has different

results? like i know my dad did it and he got a whole bunch of red and brown

stuff, my mom did it and she got all this white stuff, and me and my brother did

the foot bath with barely anything there!

i wonder...

thanks!

shefy

fats_malone2002 <signposts8@...> wrote:

Hi there, I have been discussing ionic foot baths on another website,

as I had it recommended to me by someone on this website. I was

stunned to find out the owner of herballure Russ Tanner, is fully

familiar with them and here are his statements:

I just want to help contribute a little to this conversation.

I don't know of all the health benefits associated with foot baths,

but my company (Herb Allure) recently considered manufacturing these

devices. Before we did, we wanted to confirm whether or not they

really work, especially for mercury. We don't want to be associated

with fads or Gimmicks.

We borrowed a popular unit from a friend of ours and ran our three

employees through it according to the instructions provided with the

unit. Then we ran the unit twice without feet in it at all. Here's

what we found.

The water was visually identical in all cases.

This is most likely because the gunk that you see in the water has

nothing to do with your feet or detoxing your body. It comes from the

corroded metal electrode in the water. This electrode corrodes at a

hyper rate caused by a process called electrolysis. The result is

everything from foam to slimy films to black flecks in the water.

We had the water lab tested for metal content, including heavy

metals. We found no difference between the normal sample and the

control samples (samples that had no feet in them). Additionally, two

of the three test subjects have amalgam fillings.

We don't know if there are other health benefits associated with the

device but I do know that some people do feel better after a few

weeks of using it (I've talked to several people about this in the

course of our research). Unfortunately, most people don't consider

that they are told that they have to take mineral supplements with

each treatment.

Considering that most people in the world are mineral deficient, it

would be interested to have people try taking the supplements without

the foot spa treatment and see if they feel different in a few weeks.

Here are some photos of the experiment. We will be posting the lab

results as soon as we get time (time is hard to come by):

Foot Spa Test Photographs

Despite the fact that we estimate that we could increase our annual

revenue by at least 4 times (400%) by manufacturing and selling these

units, we have decided not to manufacture them because we have not

found any evidence that they actually do anything.

Just thought you should know.

Russ Tanner.

And here are some more comments:

" More electrolytic pseudoscience: " Detoxifying " foot-baths

Have you ever heard of those foot-baths through which an electric

current is passed in order to draw out the " toxins " from your body?

To someone who knows no chemistry, it can be quite impressive to see

all these evil substances color the water various shades of brown,

green, and blue as the current works its magic. Sometimes you see

flecks of solids and bubbles of gas appear as your body

is " cleansed " . Well, this is an old parlor trick, a nice chemistry-

classroom demonstration, and, of course, a highly profitable scam...

How does it work? You place your feet in a bowl of water to which a

bit of salt has been added. A small electric current is passed

between two electrodes immersed in the water, which soon becomes

quite discolored. The color, of course, comes from electrolytic

corrosion of the metal electrodes. These are usually made of iron,

nickel, and copper, all of which decompose into highly-colored ions;

these colors will vary with the amount of salt present and the pH of

the solution.

By-products of the electrolysis process are bubbles of hydrogen and

chlorine gases (both of which are dangerous in confined spaces) and

sodium hydroxide, commonly known as " lye " . The latter tends to soften

skin, allowing it to flake off, pick up various colors on reacting

with the metal ions, and complete the illusion that one usually pays

dearly for: individual treatments can be from $50 up, and the grossly

overpriced power supply " machines " sold for home use can go for as

much as $1000. And of course, all that really gets cleaned out is

your wallet! ... "

From Post #1 at: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?

t=98088

Sorry for such a long post, but I feel people need to hear this. I

am not impressed and when searching online about them, was blown away

and totally digusted by the cost. I am unsure why anybody would go

and encourage such a " therapy " , especially for those sick/desperate

and financially challenged.

.

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January 10, 2007

Hi Shefy,

Interesting. I do not know why that would be. Could you post this

on the other web link?

http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/postlist.php?Cat= & Board=UBB19

And tell them this? The thread is about ionic foot baths and I'd

like to see their response to what you've stated.

Whatever the benefits or not, the cost of them makes my nose twitch.

Do you mind me asking how much you paid for yours? Becuase all I see

is ones for over 1000...how can that be justified? I'd love to know.

There are people on that thread claiming benefits from them though

and others talking about the analysis of them do not prove anything

happens at all. I guess it's down to what works for who, but again,

how can the cost be justified in that? Unless I found a health

practioner who owned one already and I could pay a small amount for a

use of it occassinally. I don't know anybody where I am who does. I

would have to end up buying one myself NO THANKS.

.

> good info! i've been also trying to see if it's real or not....

>

> i have another question about it though...how come each person

has different results? like i know my dad did it and he got a whole

bunch of red and brown stuff, my mom did it and she got all this

white stuff, and me and my brother did the foot bath with barely

anything there!

>

> i wonder...

>

> thanks!

> shefy

>

January 10, 2007

hm...i'm not in that group...you can copy my post and put it there if you'd

like, i don't mind at all!

i got mine off of ebay for i think $300...it works the same as the $2000 the

practitioenrs carry, just not as pretty