Re: Bee's group- MY experience with Bee

[Guest guest]

I would like to add to MY own experience with Bee and her less than sincere

ways.

I have been sick for two years with some type of toxic exposure which was

traced back to a plastic mesh being place inside my body in 1999 for hernia

repair. It apparently affected my body's ability to detoxify and thus a mold

exposure and nickel from dental work about did me in. I could barely function.

I spent over $70,000 out of my own pocket to fight this and get the answers.

I contacted Bee via email in late September about a consultation since

yeast etc. have also been a part of this environmental issue with me. I told

her

I did not have much money and that I was waiting to have surgery to REMOVE

the toxic plastic mesh in a few weeks. She told me not to worry about it and

I had a phone consult with her lasting approximately 30 minutes. I told her

I would send the money after my surgery and gave my word.

I had the surgery approximately October 20 and was very sick for 6 weeks or

so. One day I open my email to get an email from Bee stating and I quote -

" If you dont send me the $55.00 you owe me NOW, I am going to expose you to

not only my group but the other candida group as well. " Now the original

price we had agreed upon was $30 because at the time my financial situation was

not so good. So not only did she increase the price, but she then THREATENED

to expose me to the groups.

A week or so later, once I started back to working a bit, I mailed her the

$30 that we had agreed upon. For someone in her position to THREATEN someone

who had been as sick as I had been is beyond my comprehension. First, I

would not have cared if she exposed me, as I had been a man of my word and did

what I agreed to do. So not only to all of you, but especially to Bee, I have

now as she calls it exposed myself. I have UNSUBSCRIBED to her group and to

her CULTISH ways.

I do'nt think she is a particularly nice person. As long as everyone bows

down to HER ideas and beliefs, everything is fine, but the minute you bring up

a valid point which is contradictory to her position, she turns into a NOT SO

NICE person.

I find the information on her much more helpful and reasonable.

Best to All,

Bill

Dallas, Texas

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry to hear about your experience! I really don't want to

bash Bee though I disagree with a lot of what she advocates. But, I

didn't think she was any type of " health professional. " If she

isn't, how can she charge anyone money for her advice? Maybe she's

got some type of diploma and I missed that somewhere, but ???

Gail

>

> I would like to add to MY own experience with Bee and her less than

sincere

> ways.

>

> I have been sick for two years with some type of toxic exposure

which was

> traced back to a plastic mesh being place inside my body in 1999

for hernia

> repair. It apparently affected my body's ability to detoxify and

thus a mold

> exposure and nickel from dental work about did me in. I could

barely function.

>

> I spent over $70,000 out of my own pocket to fight this and get

the answers.

> I contacted Bee via email in late September about a consultation

since

> yeast etc. have also been a part of this environmental issue with

me. I told her

> I did not have much money and that I was waiting to have surgery

to REMOVE

> the toxic plastic mesh in a few weeks. She told me not to worry

about it and

> I had a phone consult with her lasting approximately 30 minutes.

I told her

> I would send the money after my surgery and gave my word.

>

> I had the surgery approximately October 20 and was very sick for 6

weeks or

> so. One day I open my email to get an email from Bee stating and

I quote -

> " If you dont send me the $55.00 you owe me NOW, I am going to

expose you to

> not only my group but the other candida group as well. " Now the

original

> price we had agreed upon was $30 because at the time my financial

situation was

> not so good. So not only did she increase the price, but she then

THREATENED

> to expose me to the groups.

>

> A week or so later, once I started back to working a bit, I mailed

her the

> $30 that we had agreed upon. For someone in her position to

THREATEN someone

> who had been as sick as I had been is beyond my comprehension.

First, I

> would not have cared if she exposed me, as I had been a man of my

word and did

> what I agreed to do. So not only to all of you, but especially to

Bee, I have

> now as she calls it exposed myself. I have UNSUBSCRIBED to her

group and to

> her CULTISH ways.

>

> I do'nt think she is a particularly nice person. As long as

everyone bows

> down to HER ideas and beliefs, everything is fine, but the minute

you bring up

> a valid point which is contradictory to her position, she turns

into a NOT SO

> NICE person.

>

> I find the information on her much more helpful and reasonable.

>

> Best to All,

>

> Bill

> Dallas, Texas

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm so sorry to hear about your experience! I really don't want to

> bash Bee though I disagree with a lot of what she advocates.

I sort of bashed Bee... but really shouldn't have. I'm glad that

particular post didn't actually get published here.

But, I

> didn't think she was any type of " health professional. "

Ok... an MD can't cure yeast infections either. There are

prescription medications that can make a yeast infection back off

temporarily...but Bee's method " cures " them as well as an MD.

A person doesn't HAVE to be an MD in order sell health care advice.

They only require a license to sell drugs.

Otherwise, it's just a consultation. Her time is also valuable, and

she offered to spend some of it with the OP. He accepted the offer.

It's called the free market.

If she

> isn't, how can she charge anyone money for her advice? Maybe

she's

> got some type of diploma and I missed that somewhere, but ???

>

> Gail

[Guest guest]

Oh, Bill,

That is horrible what happened to you. Exploiting the ill is just

about the worse thing I can imagine.

I had my own experience with the mean-spirited Queen Bee. I dared

post the truth about some misinformation she gave regarding adrenals

and was banned from her group. I even had two of her

'disciples/henchmen' contact me reinforcing the condemnation.

And someone on this list tried to challenge the ridiculous notion

that sea salt has all the trace minerals after it was PROVEN to her

be deficient in most minerals except sodium and chloride. So, her

preaching to NOT take trace minerals to balance the very high vitamin

recommendations is outright DANGEROUS!

Cultish ways indeed!

She claims to help people for altruistic reasons. To CHARGE for her

incorrect/outdated information is the ulitmate in betrayal/arrogance.

Bill, hang in there and thanks for exposing Bee's TRUE intentions.

Jeannette

>

> I would like to add to MY own experience with Bee and her less than

sincere

> ways.

>

> I have been sick for two years with some type of toxic exposure

which was

> traced back to a plastic mesh being place inside my body in 1999 for

hernia

> repair. It apparently affected my body's ability to detoxify and

thus a mold

> exposure and nickel from dental work about did me in. I could

barely function.

>

> I spent over $70,000 out of my own pocket to fight this and get the

answers.

> I contacted Bee via email in late September about a consultation

since

> yeast etc. have also been a part of this environmental issue with

me. I told her

> I did not have much money and that I was waiting to have surgery to

REMOVE

> the toxic plastic mesh in a few weeks. She told me not to worry

about it and

> I had a phone consult with her lasting approximately 30 minutes. I

told her

> I would send the money after my surgery and gave my word.

>

> I had the surgery approximately October 20 and was very sick for 6

weeks or

> so. One day I open my email to get an email from Bee stating and I

quote -

> " If you dont send me the $55.00 you owe me NOW, I am going to

expose you to

> not only my group but the other candida group as well. " Now the

original

> price we had agreed upon was $30 because at the time my financial

situation was

> not so good. So not only did she increase the price, but she then

THREATENED

> to expose me to the groups.

>

> A week or so later, once I started back to working a bit, I mailed

her the

> $30 that we had agreed upon. For someone in her position to

THREATEN someone

> who had been as sick as I had been is beyond my comprehension.

First, I

> would not have cared if she exposed me, as I had been a man of my

word and did

> what I agreed to do. So not only to all of you, but especially to

Bee, I have

> now as she calls it exposed myself. I have UNSUBSCRIBED to her

group and to

> her CULTISH ways.

>

> I do'nt think she is a particularly nice person. As long as

everyone bows

> down to HER ideas and beliefs, everything is fine, but the minute

you bring up

> a valid point which is contradictory to her position, she turns into

a NOT SO

> NICE person.

>

> I find the information on her much more helpful and reasonable.

>

> Best to All,

>

> Bill

> Dallas, Texas

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think that Bee's tips are actually dangerous. Once a girl asked if blood in

her stool is

normal and I posted a message saying that she should seek a doctor (blood can be

a sign

of serious conditions, it doesn't have to be ). She filtered out my message and

answered

the girl that her condition is absolutely normal.

Than I read a post where a woman was having horrible reactions to butter and

asked if she

should continue eating it. Bee, of course, suggested her to keep eating butter.

A lot of

people are lactose intolerant and just can't have have milk products.

Have you ever read her group policies? Somewhere it says something like " posts,

which

put Bee's theories in question are not allowed " , of course expressed in a more

eloquent

way. Needless to say I canceled my subscription already.

Bianka

> >

> > I would like to add to MY own experience with Bee and her less than

> sincere

> > ways.

> >

> > I have been sick for two years with some type of toxic exposure

> which was

> > traced back to a plastic mesh being place inside my body in 1999 for

> hernia

> > repair. It apparently affected my body's ability to detoxify and

> thus a mold

> > exposure and nickel from dental work about did me in. I could

> barely function.

> >

> > I spent over $70,000 out of my own pocket to fight this and get the

> answers.

> > I contacted Bee via email in late September about a consultation

> since

> > yeast etc. have also been a part of this environmental issue with

> me. I told her

> > I did not have much money and that I was waiting to have surgery to

> REMOVE

> > the toxic plastic mesh in a few weeks. She told me not to worry

> about it and

> > I had a phone consult with her lasting approximately 30 minutes. I

> told her

> > I would send the money after my surgery and gave my word.

> >

> > I had the surgery approximately October 20 and was very sick for 6

> weeks or

> > so. One day I open my email to get an email from Bee stating and I

> quote -

> > " If you dont send me the $55.00 you owe me NOW, I am going to

> expose you to

> > not only my group but the other candida group as well. " Now the

> original

> > price we had agreed upon was $30 because at the time my financial

> situation was

> > not so good. So not only did she increase the price, but she then

> THREATENED

> > to expose me to the groups.

> >

> > A week or so later, once I started back to working a bit, I mailed

> her the

> > $30 that we had agreed upon. For someone in her position to

> THREATEN someone

> > who had been as sick as I had been is beyond my comprehension.

> First, I

> > would not have cared if she exposed me, as I had been a man of my

> word and did

> > what I agreed to do. So not only to all of you, but especially to

> Bee, I have

> > now as she calls it exposed myself. I have UNSUBSCRIBED to her

> group and to

> > her CULTISH ways.

> >

> > I do'nt think she is a particularly nice person. As long as

> everyone bows

> > down to HER ideas and beliefs, everything is fine, but the minute

> you bring up

> > a valid point which is contradictory to her position, she turns into

> a NOT SO

> > NICE person.

> >

> > I find the information on her much more helpful and reasonable.

> >

> > Best to All,

> >

> > Bill

> > Dallas, Texas

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, I had an experience on the other group myself recently that I

found rather surprising and not overly pleasant. I felt profoundly

sorry for one member in particular and ashamed of those who had

responded to her in the manner they did. NOT IMPRESSED.

Though I was not popular for voicing my concerns and opinion

>

>

Oh, Bill,

>

> That is horrible what happened to you. Exploiting the ill is just

> about the worse thing I can imagine.

>

> I had my own experience with the mean-spirited Queen Bee. I dared

> post the truth about some misinformation she gave regarding adrenals

> and was banned from her group. I even had two of her

> 'disciples/henchmen' contact me reinforcing the condemnation.

>

> And someone on this list tried to challenge the ridiculous notion

> that sea salt has all the trace minerals after it was PROVEN to her

> be deficient in most minerals except sodium and chloride. So, her

> preaching to NOT take trace minerals to balance the very high

vitamin

> recommendations is outright DANGEROUS!

>

> Cultish ways indeed!

>

> She claims to help people for altruistic reasons. To CHARGE for her

> incorrect/outdated information is the ulitmate in

betrayal/arrogance.

>

> Bill, hang in there and thanks for exposing Bee's TRUE intentions.

>

> Jeannette

>

> ---

[Guest guest]

It causes me a degree of anguish to know that many members of the

group are following myths and even harmful advice in

good faith because they don't know any different.

I've been terminated from candidasuport membership at least three

times for contacting members privately about it, and I'll probably

be banned from this group too if I'm caught doing it again.

Question: can we find a way to get some of those souls over here to

compare notes? Perhaps a distributed approach would be effective

Leaving them to their own devices over there seems unconscionable to

me.

Duncan

>

> Yes, I had an experience on the other group myself recently that I

> found rather surprising and not overly pleasant. I felt profoundly

> sorry for one member in particular and ashamed of those who had

> responded to her in the manner they did. NOT IMPRESSED.

>

> Though I was not popular for voicing my concerns and opinion

>

> >

> >

>

> Oh, Bill,

> >

> > That is horrible what happened to you. Exploiting the ill is just

> > about the worse thing I can imagine.

> >

> > I had my own experience with the mean-spirited Queen Bee. I

dared

> > post the truth about some misinformation she gave regarding

adrenals

> > and was banned from her group. I even had two of her

> > 'disciples/henchmen' contact me reinforcing the condemnation.

> >

> > And someone on this list tried to challenge the ridiculous notion

> > that sea salt has all the trace minerals after it was PROVEN to

her

> > be deficient in most minerals except sodium and chloride. So, her

> > preaching to NOT take trace minerals to balance the very high

> vitamin

> > recommendations is outright DANGEROUS!

> >

> > Cultish ways indeed!

> >

> > She claims to help people for altruistic reasons. To CHARGE for

her

> > incorrect/outdated information is the ulitmate in

> betrayal/arrogance.

> >

> > Bill, hang in there and thanks for exposing Bee's TRUE intentions.

> >

> > Jeannette

> >

> > ---

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Duncan, well for me, I have enjoyed observing both groups and it

seems sad that those on the other group may miss out on a few

approaches here that maybe aiding people further, OR may suit people

better. I'm learning much more by seeing both approaches and hearing

all views....and I wish the same for others.

What a pity you've been banned for that! However, I don't see why

the distributed approach can't be put into some action

>

>

It causes me a degree of anguish to know that many members of the

> group are following myths and even harmful advice in

> good faith because they don't know any different.

>

> I've been terminated from candidasuport membership at least three

> times for contacting members privately about it, and I'll probably

> be banned from this group too if I'm caught doing it again.

>

> Question: can we find a way to get some of those souls over here to

> compare notes? Perhaps a distributed approach would be effective

>

> Leaving them to their own devices over there seems unconscionable

to

> me.

>

> Duncan

>

>

[Guest guest]

Greetings All

No one can ban you from this group with out being the owner or a moderator.

This is Curezone's group not Bee's!!!

has a hand in determining what is coincided harassment and sending

unwanted mails is not a thing that they take lightly.

If you feel for the people over on her group, keep this one on a positive note

and they will come if that is right for them. These things have a way of

working out.

Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote: It

causes me a degree of anguish to know that many members of the

group are following myths and even harmful advice in

good faith because they don't know any different.

I've been terminated from candidasuport membership at least three

times for contacting members privately about it, and I'll probably

be banned from this group too if I'm caught doing it again.

Question: can we find a way to get some of those souls over here to

compare notes? Perhaps a distributed approach would be effective

Leaving them to their own devices over there seems unconscionable to

me.

Duncan

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[Guest guest]

Hi Niemma,

I agree! But I have to say, if it was not for Duncan emailing me

quite some time ago and simply passing on the link to this group, I

would not have found it!

So for me? Far from being unwanted or harrassment of any kind, I was

grateful for knowing this group existed! It's interesting for me as

a sufferer to have access to both groups and seeing people's

responses, whether positive or problematic. It's most helpful.

Regards

.

>

> Greetings All

>

> No one can ban you from this group with out being the owner or a

moderator.

> This is Curezone's group not Bee's!!!

>

> has a hand in determining what is coincided harassment and

sending

> unwanted mails is not a thing that they take lightly.

>

> If you feel for the people over on her group, keep this one on a

positive note and they will come if that is right for them. These

things have a way of working out.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am glad that you found us!!! thank you for sharing that!

I still have to warn you and anyone else about sending unsolicited emails. It

could get this group removed!!!

So, if you want things to happen, then just be patient and let it flow so others

will have this group in the future.

fats_malone2002 <signposts8@...> wrote:

Hi Niemma,

I agree! But I have to say, if it was not for Duncan emailing me

quite some time ago and simply passing on the link to this group, I

would not have found it!

So for me? Far from being unwanted or harrassment of any kind, I was

grateful for knowing this group existed! It's interesting for me as

a sufferer to have access to both groups and seeing people's

responses, whether positive or problematic. It's most helpful.

Regards

.

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[Guest guest]

Someone else e-mailed me about this group too or I wouldn't have

known about it. I lurked a while before I actually joined, but am so

glad someone told me about it. Problem is if you start e-mailing

anyone over there someone will report it to Bee and she and the other

mods will be on the warpath.

I recently e-mailed a person over there but just shared my experience

as she was having some of the same problems I did. I didn't tell her

about this group. I figured if she e-mailed me back then I might be

able to recommend it.

It breaks my heart to see some of the posts over there about how much

people are suffering and not be able to do anything about it. Many

won't listen though and just follow blindly along.

Gail

>

> Hi Niemma,

>

> I agree! But I have to say, if it was not for Duncan emailing me

> quite some time ago and simply passing on the link to this group, I

> would not have found it!

>

> So for me? Far from being unwanted or harrassment of any kind, I

was

> grateful for knowing this group existed! It's interesting for me

as

> a sufferer to have access to both groups and seeing people's

> responses, whether positive or problematic. It's most helpful.

>

> Regards

>

> .

>

>

>

> >

> > Greetings All

> >

> > No one can ban you from this group with out being the owner or a

> moderator.

> > This is Curezone's group not Bee's!!!

> >

> > has a hand in determining what is coincided harassment and

> sending

> > unwanted mails is not a thing that they take lightly.

> >

> > If you feel for the people over on her group, keep this one on a

> positive note and they will come if that is right for them. These

> things have a way of working out.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to all for discussing this here. I too have been watching what

goes on at the other forum. When I tried to give advise about blood in

the urine and bowel I was filtered out too and privately told that my

opinion was not needed. Not a democractic place to be at all.

Lee

[Guest guest]

I hope you aren't banned from this group, Duncan. You have been very

helpful and a lot of people seem to have healed very well after taking

your advice. If you are banned, you must start up your own group and

let us all have the details.

Maybe someone who is on the group can circulate this

groups list details (but it will probably mean being kicked off that

group!).

Keen

Re: Bee's group- MY experience with Bee

It causes me a degree of anguish to know that many members of the

group are following myths and even harmful advice in

good faith because they don't know any different.

I've been terminated from candidasuport membership at least three

times for contacting members privately about it, and I'll probably

be banned from this group too if I'm caught doing it again.

Question: can we find a way to get some of those souls over here to

compare notes? Perhaps a distributed approach would be effective

Leaving them to their own devices over there seems unconscionable to

me.

Duncan

>

> Yes, I had an experience on the other group myself recently that I

> found rather surprising and not overly pleasant. I felt profoundly

> sorry for one member in particular and ashamed of those who had

> responded to her in the manner they did. NOT IMPRESSED.

>

> Though I was not popular for voicing my concerns and opinion

>

> >

> >

>

> Oh, Bill,

> >

> > That is horrible what happened to you. Exploiting the ill is just

> > about the worse thing I can imagine.

> >

> > I had my own experience with the mean-spirited Queen Bee. I

dared

> > post the truth about some misinformation she gave regarding

adrenals

> > and was banned from her group. I even had two of her

> > 'disciples/henchmen' contact me reinforcing the condemnation.

> >

> > And someone on this list tried to challenge the ridiculous notion

> > that sea salt has all the trace minerals after it was PROVEN to

her

> > be deficient in most minerals except sodium and chloride. So, her

> > preaching to NOT take trace minerals to balance the very high

> vitamin

> > recommendations is outright DANGEROUS!

> >

> > Cultish ways indeed!

> >

> > She claims to help people for altruistic reasons. To CHARGE for

her

> > incorrect/outdated information is the ulitmate in

> betrayal/arrogance.

> >

> > Bill, hang in there and thanks for exposing Bee's TRUE intentions.

> >

> > Jeannette

> >

> > ---

>

[Guest guest]

I am one from the other group and would love to share

my experience.

e-mail me privately and we can discuss whatever you

feel would be beneficial.

Marei

> Question: can we find a way to get some of those

> souls over here to

> compare notes? Perhaps a distributed approach would

> be effective

>

>

To Our Health,

Marei

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[Guest guest]

Schweezy, people on Bee's group continue to be lactose intolerant

because she discourages the use of inulin.

When people have adequate inulin in their diet the probiotic count is

elevated and the probiotics eat the lactose so it doesn't cause

indigestion. This is actually part of the prebiotic studies that Bee

discourages discussion of on her friendly, marginally helpful list

Duncan

> > >

> > > I would like to add to MY own experience with Bee and her less

than

> > sincere

> > > ways.

> > >

> > > I have been sick for two years with some type of toxic exposure

> > which was

> > > traced back to a plastic mesh being place inside my body in

1999 for

> > hernia

> > > repair. It apparently affected my body's ability to detoxify

and

> > thus a mold

> > > exposure and nickel from dental work about did me in. I could

> > barely function.

> > >

> > > I spent over $70,000 out of my own pocket to fight this and get

the

> > answers.

> > > I contacted Bee via email in late September about a

consultation

> > since

> > > yeast etc. have also been a part of this environmental issue

with

> > me. I told her

> > > I did not have much money and that I was waiting to have

surgery to

> > REMOVE

> > > the toxic plastic mesh in a few weeks. She told me not to

worry

> > about it and

> > > I had a phone consult with her lasting approximately 30

minutes. I

> > told her

> > > I would send the money after my surgery and gave my word.

> > >

> > > I had the surgery approximately October 20 and was very sick

for 6

> > weeks or

> > > so. One day I open my email to get an email from Bee stating

and I

> > quote -

> > > " If you dont send me the $55.00 you owe me NOW, I am going to

> > expose you to

> > > not only my group but the other candida group as well. " Now

the

> > original

> > > price we had agreed upon was $30 because at the time my

financial

> > situation was

> > > not so good. So not only did she increase the price, but she

then

> > THREATENED

> > > to expose me to the groups.

> > >

> > > A week or so later, once I started back to working a bit, I

mailed

> > her the

> > > $30 that we had agreed upon. For someone in her position to

> > THREATEN someone

> > > who had been as sick as I had been is beyond my comprehension.

> > First, I

> > > would not have cared if she exposed me, as I had been a man of

my

> > word and did

> > > what I agreed to do. So not only to all of you, but especially

to

> > Bee, I have

> > > now as she calls it exposed myself. I have UNSUBSCRIBED to her

> > group and to

> > > her CULTISH ways.

> > >

> > > I do'nt think she is a particularly nice person. As long as

> > everyone bows

> > > down to HER ideas and beliefs, everything is fine, but the

minute

> > you bring up

> > > a valid point which is contradictory to her position, she turns

into

> > a NOT SO

> > > NICE person.

> > >

> > > I find the information on her much more helpful and

reasonable.

> > >

> > > Best to All,

> > >

> > > Bill

> > > Dallas, Texas

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I was asked to join this group (from Bee's group) in a very positive

and non-judgemental way. I quickly discovered that the moderator was

not always so positive. I posted occasionally when I first joined

this board, but very quickly I received condescending responses and

it culminated with the moderator telling me that what I was going

through at the moment was NOT possible. Then I was dismissed. I

have never felt or experienced anything like that on Bee's site.

I still linger on this board to hear what other people have to say as

I value multiple opinions and viewpoints and think there is good

information here, but I think both boards have a 'my way or the

highway' attitude. IMHO I think being a member to only one input is

not the best way to go, but I also think it is hardly detrimental for

a person to belong to only Bee's group, or this one, or any other one

for that matter.

Let's all remember what we are here, and there for: Candida.

> It causes me a degree of anguish to know that many members of the

> group are following myths and even harmful advice in

> good faith because they don't know any different.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sk,

I belong to both groups and just try and gain what info I can. I've

had a few annoyances on both also at times, and mostly I move on and

just enjoy the good from it. Only very occassionally have I got

angry enough to speak out (which i did on Bee's recently). So I do

understand what you're saying. I've had drawbacks on both groups and

good on both also.

So I try and weigh it up and simply gain positives that I can for

what I'm going through.

> I value multiple opinions and viewpoints and think there is good

> information here, but I think both boards have a 'my way or the

> highway' attitude. IMHO I think being a member to only one input

is

> not the best way to go, but I also think it is hardly detrimental

for

> a person to belong to only Bee's group, or this one, or any other

one

> for that matter.

> Let's all remember what we are here, and there for: Candida.

>

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Duncan and Everyone, I'm new here. Some of you know me, from

Bee's group, LOL! Ban yesterday for demanding an apology because the

Bee Yatch covertly called me a liar at her group.

(You can read more here: http://bee-wilder.blogspot.com/ )

About three weeks ago I had all the symptoms of a heart attack:

pressure in the chest area, feeling like my heart was being squeezed,

shortness of breath, pain between my shoulder blades, then

progressively more intense tightness in the chest area, increasing

difficulty breathing, basically all classic symptoms of a heart attack.

I chose not to call 911 (Bee says those people will kill you and it's

legal!) so I figured I could croak on my own. Took some B complex plus

extra B6, B12 and slowly the symptoms eased up. I rode it out and made

it thru.

So the next day I post at the group, trying to see if anyone has gone

thru the same. Sure enough, I got emails of kind members who've felt

the same way in the past. I stayed off the group for like 2 weeks and

last week was appalled to see that, incited by Bee's brainless minion,

" Luv Debra in San or San Diego " (I forget!) a few posters,

P something and , had started calling me names and

this was not discouraged by the mods, it was encouraged by Debra! She

called it tough love! (Wait until I grab her " gorgeous " svelte pix and

create my own " tough love " post at my brand new blog!)

Anyway, it's a good thing I didn't log in all that time. What were

they trying, to finish me off with another heart attack? A good thing

I don't let stupidity get to me in that way. Oh, no. And I don't stay

quiet either.

So I posted at the beeyatch's group, told that her maliciousness

spoke volumes about her, not me. The delusional insect posted back

that it was not an okay post and that if I had been " trully [sic]

sick " I would have called an ambulance?

Oh really miss control freak? Who put it in my head that the

established American medical system are legal murderers?? So I wrote

to her demanding an apology. I mean is she going to say that an

elderly that carries a " do not resucitate " card is really not that dead?!

Anyway, she promptly apologized: by banning me from the group and

sending me a copy of her rules. I promptly send her a love note of my

own: the link to my blog!

I think that this woman has some serious issues beyond control. Her

advice is dangerous and she needs to be held accountable.

What can we do??

[Guest guest]

Bee is an ARROGANT IDIOT and dishonest as well. Glad you are here.

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[Guest guest]

HIya

I'm so glad to see you over here!!! You concerns and disgust is

shared by me and others and I was appaulled at how they responded to

you regarding that attack you had and that was basically pretty much

was the clincher for me. I'd heard about them from others, but saw

it for myself in all it's " unglory " . Saddened by it and not

surprised. Nobody is fooled trust me

They were desperately trying to throw doubts on your circumstances

and you as a person and did it in a very condescending, rather clever

manner to attempt to make themselves look " ok " in the process all in

the name of protecting the diet. The funny this is, you didn't throw

doubts on the diet at all (they accused you of that), but instead you

had a surprising attack, a distressing one and you simply made the

intelligent decision to " ease off " a few things for awhile as you

really did not know what you were dealing with. That didn't matter,

you were still belittled by them because in their eyes you were

throwing doubts on aspects of the diet or the fat intake and " how

dare you "

I am just glad you are " ok " and hope this does not occur again. I am

sorry for the superior behaviours of those who responded to your

plight in the manner they did!

Cheers

.

> Hi Duncan and Everyone, I'm new here. Some of you know me, Chris

from

> Bee's group, LOL! Ban yesterday for demanding an apology because the

> Bee Yatch covertly called me a liar at her group.

>

> (You can read more here: http://bee-wilder.blogspot.com/ )

>

> About three weeks ago I had all the symptoms of a heart attack:

> pressure in the chest area, feeling like my heart was being

squeezed,

> shortness of breath, pain between my shoulder blades, then

> progressively more intense tightness in the chest area, increasing

> difficulty breathing, basically all classic symptoms of a heart

attack.

>

> I chose not to call 911 (Bee says those people will kill you and

it's

> legal!) so I figured I could croak on my own. Took some B complex

plus

> extra B6, B12 and slowly the symptoms eased up. I rode it out and

made

> it thru.

>

> So the next day I post at the group, trying to see if anyone has

gone

> thru the same. Sure enough, I got emails of kind members who've felt

> the same way in the past. I stayed off the group for like 2 weeks

and

> last week was appalled to see that, incited by Bee's brainless

minion,

> " Luv Debra in San or San Diego " (I forget!) a few posters,

> P something and , had started calling me names and

> this was not discouraged by the mods, it was encouraged by Debra!

She

> called it tough love! (Wait until I grab her " gorgeous " svelte pix

and

> create my own " tough love " post at my brand new blog!)

>

> Anyway, it's a good thing I didn't log in all that time. What were

> they trying, to finish me off with another heart attack? A good

thing

> I don't let stupidity get to me in that way. Oh, no. And I don't

stay

> quiet either.

>

> So I posted at the beeyatch's group, told that her

maliciousness

> spoke volumes about her, not me. The delusional insect posted back

> that it was not an okay post and that if I had been " trully [sic]

> sick " I would have called an ambulance?

>

> Oh really miss control freak? Who put it in my head that the

> established American medical system are legal murderers?? So I wrote

> to her demanding an apology. I mean is she going to say that an

> elderly that carries a " do not resucitate " card is really not that

dead?!

>

> Anyway, she promptly apologized: by banning me from the group and

> sending me a copy of her rules. I promptly send her a love note of

my

> own: the link to my blog!

>

> I think that this woman has some serious issues beyond control. Her

> advice is dangerous and she needs to be held accountable.

>

> What can we do??

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome

I regret you had a bad experience at the other group. This one has

proven to be the answer for me. Myth-busting is this groups forte.

Opinions differing from the groups moderator are allowed so we can

discuss things like adults and come to our own conclusions. A

combination of science, anthropological evidence and common sense

prevail here. Personally I have benefitted tremendously and feel

extremly fortunate to have found this particular group. May you

experience excellent health and vitality.

Rock

>

> Hi Duncan and Everyone, I'm new here. Some of you know me, Chris

from

> Bee's group, LOL! Ban yesterday for demanding an apology because

the

> Bee Yatch covertly called me a liar at her group.

>

> (You can read more here: http://bee-wilder.blogspot.com/ )

>

> About three weeks ago I had all the symptoms of a heart attack:

> pressure in the chest area, feeling like my heart was being

squeezed,

> shortness of breath, pain between my shoulder blades, then

> progressively more intense tightness in the chest area, increasing

> difficulty breathing, basically all classic symptoms of a heart

attack.

>

> I chose not to call 911 (Bee says those people will kill you and

it's

> legal!) so I figured I could croak on my own. Took some B complex

plus

> extra B6, B12 and slowly the symptoms eased up. I rode it out and

made

> it thru.

>

> So the next day I post at the group, trying to see if anyone has

gone

> thru the same. Sure enough, I got emails of kind members who've

felt

> the same way in the past. I stayed off the group for like 2 weeks

and

> last week was appalled to see that, incited by Bee's brainless

minion,

> " Luv Debra in San or San Diego " (I forget!) a few posters,

> P something and , had started calling me names

and

> this was not discouraged by the mods, it was encouraged by Debra!

She

> called it tough love! (Wait until I grab her " gorgeous " svelte pix

and

> create my own " tough love " post at my brand new blog!)

>

> Anyway, it's a good thing I didn't log in all that time. What were

> they trying, to finish me off with another heart attack? A good

thing

> I don't let stupidity get to me in that way. Oh, no. And I don't

stay

> quiet either.

>

> So I posted at the beeyatch's group, told that her

maliciousness

> spoke volumes about her, not me. The delusional insect posted back

> that it was not an okay post and that if I had been " trully [sic]

> sick " I would have called an ambulance?

>

> Oh really miss control freak? Who put it in my head that the

> established American medical system are legal murderers?? So I

wrote

> to her demanding an apology. I mean is she going to say that an

> elderly that carries a " do not resucitate " card is really not that

dead?!

>

> Anyway, she promptly apologized: by banning me from the group and

> sending me a copy of her rules. I promptly send her a love note of

my

> own: the link to my blog!

>

> I think that this woman has some serious issues beyond control. Her

> advice is dangerous and she needs to be held accountable.

>

> What can we do??

>

[Guest guest]

,

I don't really think you are in a position to " put words in Chris'

mouth " , but being the cronie worshiper you are on Bee's site, nothing you have

said or done really surprises me.

Until you have felt how it feels to walk in her shoes, why don't you try

keeping your mouth shut and allowing her the courtesy to say how she feels

and why. Your babbling on about WHAT YOU THINK happened wreaks of the

arrogance on Bee's website.

ANY of us who spoke our mind over there were chastized and criticized

for even questioning. And as far Bee's personal reactions, I found out all too

well about her and her not so above-board qualities.

Those of us with COMMON SENSE have moved on. Please leave us alone.

Bill

Dallas, Texas

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--- <kenstar@...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I am " the " of Chris's post. And

> although I am on board with the notion that there is

> something not right with Bee,

I believe it is a power struggle for her to be in

charge and to be right. She has done alot of research

but her diet is not hers and hers alone. she combined

many other programs together and came up with her diet

Right in her rules she states that we cannot disagree.

So it is a p lace to go to learn and accept it or

not.

sue

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am " the " of Chris's post. And although I am on board with

the notion that there is something not right with Bee, you will all realize in

short time that there is also something up with Chris.

Nothing I read on Bee's list about your 'heart attack' was out of line. Except

probably my rude comment about you needing a psychiatrist for which I

immediately apologized.

You were initially scared and upset. Quite understandable, with your symptom

picture. Your vanishing act reads to me that you backed yourself into a corner

and when you felt better, you felt silly and had to disappear, hoping it would

all die down. You were and are the one out of line here. You manipulated

people who were with you and willing to support you and were genuinely worried

about you. And then you pop back up, 2 WEEKS after the fact, all cheery and

flippant, like no big deal. That's why Bee was annoyed with you and I totally

get where that was coming from and my post reflected that. Her post was brief

and there was no name calling.

We all feel sick and are having scary symptoms. But a few weeks/days on a diet

are not going to be the cause of anyone's heart attack or cancer as your blog

states.

Your inability to shrug it off, get over it, move on might, however, have

something to do with your symptomology.

Your vengefulness and desire to " get everyone on your side " could be part of it.

Your anger is a little over the top.