Fish oil and flax myth

[Guest guest]

A LOT of " fish oil " is from farmed Atlantic Salmon and this source

does not have therapeutic values of DHA and EPA, the anti-inflammatory

fatty acids used in cell membranes; in fact it is inflammatory.

The correct " fish oil " should be labeled as cod-liver oil, mackeral

and sardine oil, " wild salmon oil " , cold-water fish oil or words to

that effect.

Also, flax oil, a supposedly beneficial omega-3, is not converted at

high enough amounts to EPA and DHA to be very useful, and eating flax

seed does not bridge the gap between you and omega-3 EFA deficiency.

My apologies to the vegans.

Some of the detail is on my Budwig Diet revision page:

http://tinyurl.com/yjh9su

Duncan

[Guest guest]

I bought the Carlson Cod liver oil in capsules from Norway in the

super 1000 caps. It provides 240 mg Omega-3 Fatty Acids per cap and

the price was not too bad at The Vitamin Cottage. I also picked up a

box of Nordic Naturals OMEGA-3 singles packs that were on sale at 50%

off. These have 1750 mg Omega 3 per packet and is made from deep sea

fish oil.

The second seems better to me based on the qty of Omega three. The

box says Pharmaceutical Grace and Distilled for Purity. Which one

sounds the best?

>

> A LOT of " fish oil " is from farmed Atlantic Salmon and this source

> does not have therapeutic values of DHA and EPA, the anti-inflammatory

> fatty acids used in cell membranes; in fact it is inflammatory.

>

> The correct " fish oil " should be labeled as cod-liver oil, mackeral

> and sardine oil, " wild salmon oil " , cold-water fish oil or words to

> that effect.

>

> Also, flax oil, a supposedly beneficial omega-3, is not converted at

> high enough amounts to EPA and DHA to be very useful, and eating flax

> seed does not bridge the gap between you and omega-3 EFA deficiency.

> My apologies to the vegans.

>

> Some of the detail is on my Budwig Diet revision page:

> http://tinyurl.com/yjh9su

>

> Duncan

>

[Guest guest]

Insufficient data; I don't bother with the molecular distilled for

better purity, I just pick up a bottle of 300 gelcaps of generic

loblaws cod-liver oil at the box store for about $10 CAD.

> >

> > A LOT of " fish oil " is from farmed Atlantic Salmon and this

source

> > does not have therapeutic values of DHA and EPA, the anti-

inflammatory

> > fatty acids used in cell membranes; in fact it is inflammatory.

> >

> > The correct " fish oil " should be labeled as cod-liver oil,

mackeral

> > and sardine oil, " wild salmon oil " , cold-water fish oil or words

to

> > that effect.

> >

> > Also, flax oil, a supposedly beneficial omega-3, is not converted

at

> > high enough amounts to EPA and DHA to be very useful, and eating

flax

> > seed does not bridge the gap between you and omega-3 EFA

deficiency.

> > My apologies to the vegans.

> >

> > Some of the detail is on my Budwig Diet revision page:

> > http://tinyurl.com/yjh9su

> >

> > Duncan

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Carlsons is very safe and clean cod liver oil and this is what most

people I know who have children that need it or are on the Weston

Price diet use. I wouldn't trust much else. When I used to work

for a holistic doctor we tested all kinds of supplements and most

are actually detrimental to the body. Likely the fish oil ones

contain toxins like mercury. Personally, I muscle test everything I

take just to be on the safe side. Using the oil pure instead of in

capsules would be more beneficial. Here's a bit I found on the

website http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_detail.phtml?prodid=00204

Cod Liver Oil Regular Flavor

From the deep, unpolluted waters near Norway, Carlson brings you the

finest cod liver oil which is naturally rich in Vitamin A, Vitamin

D3, EPA and DHA. Only cod fish caught during the winter and early

spring are used, as the liver oil content is highest at this time of

year. The oil is separated from the liver tissues without the use of

chemicals. To insure freshness of Carlson Norwegian Cod Liver Oil,

the air inside the glass bottle has been replaced with nitrogen.

Natural vitamin E is added to the cod liver oil to protect the

freshness of the EPA and DHA both within the bottle and our bodies.

Vitamin E prevents oxidation of polyunsaturated oils.

THIS PRODUCT is regularly tested (using AOAC international

protocols) for freshness, potency and purity by an independent, FDA-

registered laboratory and has been determined to be fresh, fully

potent and free of detectable levels of mercury, cadmium, lead,

PCB's and 28 other

Sharon

>

>

> I bought the Carlson Cod liver oil in capsules from Norway in the

> super 1000 caps. It provides 240 mg Omega-3 Fatty Acids per cap

and

> the price was not too bad at The Vitamin Cottage. I also picked

up a

> box of Nordic Naturals OMEGA-3 singles packs that were on sale at

50%

> off. These have 1750 mg Omega 3 per packet and is made from deep

sea

> fish oil.

>

> The second seems better to me based on the qty of Omega three. The

> box says Pharmaceutical Grace and Distilled for Purity. Which one

> sounds the best?

>

>

[Guest guest]

In my opinion all of the food grade cod liver oils are safe and

clean, but I'm in Canada and our quality control might be better

here. People who are concerned about traces of mercury can use wild

salmon oil, arguably the safest oil.

Gelcaps prevent oil exposure to oxygen AFTER you open the bottle,

while nitrogen purging only ensures there is no oxygen in the bottle

when you buy it. I buy bottles of 300 gelcaps so in the two months or

so it's open before I finish it all my cod-liver oil remains

unexposed to oxygen, while yours doesn't.

In what way could pure oil be better than gelcaps?

Duncan

>

> Carlsons is very safe and clean cod liver oil and this is what most

> people I know who have children that need it or are on the Weston

> Price diet use. I wouldn't trust much else. When I used to work

> for a holistic doctor we tested all kinds of supplements and most

> are actually detrimental to the body. Likely the fish oil ones

> contain toxins like mercury. Personally, I muscle test everything

I

> take just to be on the safe side. Using the oil pure instead of in

> capsules would be more beneficial.

[Guest guest]

It was wild salmon oil capsules that tested worse when we tested

them. It's quite a while ago. I don't remember the brand. All I

can say is that if Carlson's works for everyone I know who has

experimented with oils, there is not need to dispute it. Since

you're Canadian, I suggest trying to get a hold of the November

Alive magazine and reading the letter from Price, Biologist

(Aquaculture Specialist) in regards to wild salmon. It's on pages

14, 16.

Mercury resides in the fat and I doubt that any company who can

produce a cheap gelcap is doing anything about removing it. If used

daily the slight amount of oxygen is a non-issue since it's

preserved with vitamin E which prevents oxidation.

Bottom line is that it works and it's about as toxin-free as

possible. Since over 95% of illness is related to over-toxicity,

why risk using a cheap gelcap? The Moms I know who have either

autistic or ADD or ADHD kids swear by the liquid over the capsules.

A capsule may not fully dissolve particularily in children with

impaired digestion like those who are austistic.

Sharon

> >

> > Carlsons is very safe and clean cod liver oil and this is what

most

> > people I know who have children that need it or are on the

Weston

> > Price diet use. I wouldn't trust much else. When I used to

work

> > for a holistic doctor we tested all kinds of supplements and

most

> > are actually detrimental to the body. Likely the fish oil ones

> > contain toxins like mercury. Personally, I muscle test

everything

> I

> > take just to be on the safe side. Using the oil pure instead of

in

> > capsules would be more beneficial.

>

[Guest guest]

On 12/22/06, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

> Also, flax oil, a supposedly beneficial omega-3, is not converted at

> high enough amounts to EPA and DHA to be very useful, and eating flax

> seed does not bridge the gap between you and omega-3 EFA deficiency.

> My apologies to the vegans.

Not that I advocate veganism, but if someone insists upon it, there is

a vegan DHA supplement available (at least in the States) derived from

" algal oil. "

Chris

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[Guest guest]

On 12/25/06, Sharon <hotmocha@...> wrote:

>

>

> A capsule may not fully dissolve particularily in children with

> impaired digestion like those who are austistic.

Hi Sharon

I know this is going completely off topic but I wanted to ask you about the

above. My son is on the autistic spectrum and neither he nor any of his

friends or schoolmates (all with autistic spectrum disorders) ever suffered

from impaired digestion. I used to work in that fiels and the autisctic

spectrum kids I came across with severely impaired digestion were all those

who 'developed' it after the MMR injection. In fact it was the digestive

difficulties which tended to show up immediately and the autistic spectrum

diagnosis which came later.

My son and his friends were all diagnosed as being on the spectrum from

birth. I'm aware that all this is totally anecdotal but I had always assumed

that the diestive impairment was a result of the MMR not classic autistic

spectrum disorders. I was just wondering if it's the same with those you

know or is there any evidence to the contrary?

Thanks

Kirsteen

Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done