Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Wow, , do we piss you off because we are healed and want to help? Or is it because we want to give hope to people who are sick? I know this disease is hard, because I DID go through the same hell that you are going through. I am glad I had so many people helping me, including healed folks, because all of those people added something positive to my healing process. What got me though the tough times was wanting to get rid of my pain and misery. That is what kept me from bingeing, it's what kept me taking my supplements and and it kept me sticking to the diet. I also took antifungals. But no one can be perfect on the diet, so just pick yourself up when you get off track, dust off your boots and keep going day by day. You CAN get better. But don't be too hard on yourself if you get off track. Everyone's healing is unique and you will find your way. skw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 : Doing the diet and taking PREbiotics, not PRObiotics unless you want to high-dose them as well, is really the way to go. PREbiotics feed probiotics, and without their food the probiotics have little chance at being dominant. People who employ the prebiotic approach might be some of the success stories that you are comparing the diet-alone failure to. No doubt bowel ecology change can be done with diet alone but it's a remarkably slow process as you have discovered; however, using inulin powder allows changes for the better to happen pretty quickly and you can even carb-cheat just a bit. Here's the science and a cheap source: http://tinyurl.com/2m29z The fact inulin doesn't feed candida is pretty widely known on this list but a taboo topic on for no good reason; it's been in the peer-reviewed archives for many years. Here's some research to that effect; go about four screens up from this link. http://tinyurl.com/y7f8od Duncan --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 > Hey, , I think there are many others going through the same as you. I've been doing this for 6 mo but I don't binge because if I do, I'll get awful oral thrush w/swelled up lips and terrible sores. I keep wondering too though when I'm ever going to get better. I stick to the diet and take all the supplements and have added a few more that are recommended on this list that I think will help a lot. The first few weeks are the hardest. We crave all the things we were used to eating and it's really hard not to give in to those cravings. I finally have gotten to the point where I rarely even think about some of the foods I used to crave so badly. Just start again and try sticking to it. If you fall off, don't beat yourself up about it. Take it a day at a time. You'll get there and there's lots of people here for support. Good luck to you. Gail > Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've been doing this for > months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So, this is my 8th attempt. > I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed borderline a few years ago, so life > in general has always been more challenging for me. > > I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also scaring the hell out of me > with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a million pills.... > Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to be a long process. I just > want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the hardest. > > Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of people responding who aren't > even sick anymore. you guys piss me off. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 I have the same problem with thrush. It started three years ago and has progressively gotten worse. The diet helped but did not get rid of it. All I have to do is eat a cookie or some beans for dinner and the thrush is worse by morning. I wonder about the diet now..I lost about 30 pounds in all and am VERY thin right now. Look aneroxic. I am not so sure that limiting so many foods worked for me, I became so weak from no carbs that I could not go up a flight of stairs without getting light headed and dizzy!! I started going to a naturalist to help me, he seems to believe that my stomach acid and bacteria in my lower intestins are the main reasons my body does not heal itself. The parasite cleanse, enzymes, acids, herbs, probiotics, sunflower oil pulling do seem to be helping...but my tongue is still white, especially in the back, however, right now my tongue is not sore or swollen ..we will see how long this lasts. I started using tea tree oil again yesterday, just putting a little bit on my toothbrush while brushing my tongue..felt good!! Gail <gmgblues@...> wrote: > Hey, , I think there are many others going through the same as you. I've been doing this for 6 mo but I don't binge because if I do, I'll get awful oral thrush w/swelled up lips and terrible sores. I keep wondering too though when I'm ever going to get better. I stick to the diet and take all the supplements and have added a few more that are recommended on this list that I think will help a lot. The first few weeks are the hardest. We crave all the things we were used to eating and it's really hard not to give in to those cravings. I finally have gotten to the point where I rarely even think about some of the foods I used to crave so badly. Just start again and try sticking to it. If you fall off, don't beat yourself up about it. Take it a day at a time. You'll get there and there's lots of people here for support. Good luck to you. Gail > Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've been doing this for > months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So, this is my 8th attempt. > I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed borderline a few years ago, so life > in general has always been more challenging for me. > > I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also scaring the hell out of me > with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a million pills.... > Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to be a long process. I just > want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the hardest. > > Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of people responding who aren't > even sick anymore. you guys piss me off. > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Duncan, I started eating Fieldstone yogurt with inulin and like it alot. I combine it with my whey powder and organic soymilk for breakfast. I am doing one clove of garlic with water when I get up...is it ok to have all of this in my stomach together? I was told to do garlic one day and probiotics the next...does the prebiotic matter? Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote: : Doing the diet and taking PREbiotics, not PRObiotics unless you want to high-dose them as well, is really the way to go. PREbiotics feed probiotics, and without their food the probiotics have little chance at being dominant. People who employ the prebiotic approach might be some of the success stories that you are comparing the diet-alone failure to. No doubt bowel ecology change can be done with diet alone but it's a remarkably slow process as you have discovered; however, using inulin powder allows changes for the better to happen pretty quickly and you can even carb-cheat just a bit. Here's the science and a cheap source: http://tinyurl.com/2m29z The fact inulin doesn't feed candida is pretty widely known on this list but a taboo topic on for no good reason; it's been in the peer-reviewed archives for many years. Here's some research to that effect; go about four screens up from this link. http://tinyurl.com/y7f8od Duncan --- __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Hi , I really feel for you, and can relate. On top of Candida I also have Leaky Gut Syndrome, so my food/supplement options are pretty slim. Especially since the Leaky Gut is causing me to become intolerant to something different every other day or week. I've lost so much weight and can barely leave the house because I'm having to eat about every 2 hours and can't tote along " snacks " or ready-to-eat foods because of my sensitivities...and the acid reflux that builds when the stomach's empty too long. I find what's working best for me tho is just going as natural as I can with this whole thing. My main focus is diet. I've eliminated absolutely all sugars, but use Stevia, so I don't feel totally deprived. I eat mainly veggies, some organic chicken, quinoa, millet, ground flax that I add to some of my meals, and LOTS of non- chloronated water. The only supplements I can tolerate right now are tablets I get from my TCM to help keep my pH up, or else I'm too acidic. And I've recently been able to tolerate acidophilus after many failed weeks of attempts. The Leaky Gut wasn't ready for it. My advice to you is never mind too much what everyone else is doing. Different things work for different people. Keep it basic. Focus on the diet, but be sure to eliminate ALL things that may cause your Candida to flare up. That includes white rice/flour/pasta, all fruit, all dairy, and unless you can tolerate it...alcohol. I was told by a nutritionist that carrots are ok for the Candida diet, but that's contrary to what a Naturopathic Doctor I used to work for said. Carrots are very sweet...when I juice with them my tongue gets coated white overnight. So I've decided to eliminate them for now, also. You'll have to experiment and see what works for you best. Your body will let you know right away if its ok with something, or not. Hang in there girl. If I could trade places with you I would. I don't have the luxury of bingeing or my gut feels like its trying to squeeze the life outta me...it's painful and debilitating and the anxiety it causes me makes me wanna die sometimes...and it pisses me off. You can do it! Jules -- In candidiasis , " sabrinasusen " <sabrinasusen@...> wrote: > > Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've been doing this for > months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So, this is my 8th attempt. > I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed borderline a few years ago, so life > in general has always been more challenging for me. > > I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also scaring the hell out of me > with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a million pills.... > Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to be a long process. I just > want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the hardest. > > Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of people responding who aren't > even sick anymore. you guys piss me off. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Can you tolerate almond meal or coconut flour? They do well in my stomach. I eat almond meal muffins alot. Make sure you watch for bad bacteria in the colon, that will cause alot of pain and not to mention... a very bad stool odor!!! :-) jaysmyne <jaysmyne@...> wrote: Hi , I really feel for you, and can relate. On top of Candida I also have Leaky Gut Syndrome, so my food/supplement options are pretty slim. Especially since the Leaky Gut is causing me to become intolerant to something different every other day or week. I've lost so much weight and can barely leave the house because I'm having to eat about every 2 hours and can't tote along " snacks " or ready-to-eat foods because of my sensitivities...and the acid reflux that builds when the stomach's empty too long. I find what's working best for me tho is just going as natural as I can with this whole thing. My main focus is diet. I've eliminated absolutely all sugars, but use Stevia, so I don't feel totally deprived. I eat mainly veggies, some organic chicken, quinoa, millet, ground flax that I add to some of my meals, and LOTS of non- chloronated water. The only supplements I can tolerate right now are tablets I get from my TCM to help keep my pH up, or else I'm too acidic. And I've recently been able to tolerate acidophilus after many failed weeks of attempts. The Leaky Gut wasn't ready for it. My advice to you is never mind too much what everyone else is doing. Different things work for different people. Keep it basic. Focus on the diet, but be sure to eliminate ALL things that may cause your Candida to flare up. That includes white rice/flour/pasta, all fruit, all dairy, and unless you can tolerate it...alcohol. I was told by a nutritionist that carrots are ok for the Candida diet, but that's contrary to what a Naturopathic Doctor I used to work for said. Carrots are very sweet...when I juice with them my tongue gets coated white overnight. So I've decided to eliminate them for now, also. You'll have to experiment and see what works for you best. Your body will let you know right away if its ok with something, or not. Hang in there girl. If I could trade places with you I would. I don't have the luxury of bingeing or my gut feels like its trying to squeeze the life outta me...it's painful and debilitating and the anxiety it causes me makes me wanna die sometimes...and it pisses me off. You can do it! Jules -- In candidiasis , " sabrinasusen " <sabrinasusen@...> wrote: > > Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've been doing this for > months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So, this is my 8th attempt. > I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed borderline a few years ago, so life > in general has always been more challenging for me. > > I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also scaring the hell out of me > with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a million pills.... > Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to be a long process. I just > want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the hardest. > > Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of people responding who aren't > even sick anymore. you guys piss me off. > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Have you tried using Colloidial Silver Water for your thrush? I was skeptic, but at the suggestion of a fellow Candida sufferer at the holistic clinic I go to, I've been swishing about a teaspoon of it in my mouth and gargling with it...then hold it in your mouth as long as you can before you swallow it. I was told to do this three times a day initially, then increase to two teaspoons at a time. In only three days my tongue is looking 80% cleared up, but I had to stop due the pain the mineral was causing my Leaky Gut condition. I'm still using it to swish and gargle with, but then I spit. Once my stomach and gut are more healed and can tolerate it, I will start swallowing the Silver Water again, as it is known to aid in prohibiting the growth of Candida, among other things. Check it out and see what you think. Jules > > > Hey, , I think there are many others going through the same as > you. I've been doing this for 6 mo but I don't binge because if I > do, I'll get awful oral thrush w/swelled up lips and terrible sores. > I keep wondering too though when I'm ever going to get better. I > stick to the diet and take all the supplements and have added a few > more that are recommended on this list that I think will help a lot. > The first few weeks are the hardest. We crave all the things we were > used to eating and it's really hard not to give in to those > cravings. I finally have gotten to the point where I rarely even > think about some of the foods I used to crave so badly. > > Just start again and try sticking to it. If you fall off, don't beat > yourself up about it. Take it a day at a time. You'll get there and > there's lots of people here for support. > > Good luck to you. > > Gail > > > Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've > been doing this for > > months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So, > this is my 8th attempt. > > I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed > borderline a few years ago, so life > > in general has always been more challenging for me. > > > > I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also > scaring the hell out of me > > with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a > million pills.... > > Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to > be a long process. I just > > want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the > hardest. > > > > Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of > people responding who aren't > > even sick anymore. you guys piss me off. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 I'm not sure if I can tolerate almond meal yet, or coconut flour. My stomach and gut have really been through the wringer the last few weeks, but are starting to calm down now. I'll wait another week or so and then try the almond meal. I didn't know there was such a thing as coconut flour. I'll have to look into that. I found that the thing that causes me most gut pain is commerical meats from the grocery store. I'm fine with organic chicken for now. Later I'll try reintroducing fish again. I tried extra virgin coconut oil and it's a bit heavy for me right now, but I'll try again in the New Year. Funny thing you mentioning the bad stool odor. My TCM keeps asking me about that, but mine are virtually odorless, if you can believe it, and have always been that way...most of the time. In candidiasis , j h <jl_life@...> wrote: > > Can you tolerate almond meal or coconut flour? They do well in my stomach. I eat almond meal muffins alot. Make sure you watch for bad bacteria in the colon, that will cause alot of pain and not to mention... a very bad stool odor!!! :-) > > jaysmyne <jaysmyne@...> wrote: > Hi , > > I really feel for you, and can relate. On top of Candida I also have > Leaky Gut Syndrome, so my food/supplement options are pretty slim. > Especially since the Leaky Gut is causing me to become intolerant to > something different every other day or week. I've lost so much weight > and can barely leave the house because I'm having to eat about every > 2 hours and can't tote along " snacks " or ready-to-eat foods because > of my sensitivities...and the acid reflux that builds when the > stomach's empty too long. > > I find what's working best for me tho is just going as natural as I > can with this whole thing. My main focus is diet. I've eliminated > absolutely all sugars, but use Stevia, so I don't feel totally > deprived. I eat mainly veggies, some organic chicken, quinoa, millet, > ground flax that I add to some of my meals, and LOTS of non- > chloronated water. The only supplements I can tolerate right now are > tablets I get from my TCM to help keep my pH up, or else I'm too > acidic. And I've recently been able to tolerate acidophilus after > many failed weeks of attempts. The Leaky Gut wasn't ready for it. > > My advice to you is never mind too much what everyone else is doing. > Different things work for different people. Keep it basic. Focus on > the diet, but be sure to eliminate ALL things that may cause your > Candida to flare up. That includes white rice/flour/pasta, all fruit, > all dairy, and unless you can tolerate it...alcohol. I was told by a > nutritionist that carrots are ok for the Candida diet, but that's > contrary to what a Naturopathic Doctor I used to work for said. > Carrots are very sweet...when I juice with them my tongue gets coated > white overnight. So I've decided to eliminate them for now, also. > > You'll have to experiment and see what works for you best. Your body > will let you know right away if its ok with something, or not. > > Hang in there girl. If I could trade places with you I would. I don't > have the luxury of bingeing or my gut feels like its trying to > squeeze the life outta me...it's painful and debilitating and the > anxiety it causes me makes me wanna die sometimes...and it pisses me > off. > > You can do it! > > Jules > > -- In candidiasis , " sabrinasusen " <sabrinasusen@> > wrote: > > > > Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've > been doing this for > > months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So, > this is my 8th attempt. > > I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed > borderline a few years ago, so life > > in general has always been more challenging for me. > > > > I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also > scaring the hell out of me > > with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a > million pills.... > > Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to > be a long process. I just > > want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the > hardest. > > > > Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of > people responding who aren't > > even sick anymore. you guys piss me off. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Thanks...yes, I used colloidial silver and it worked great for about two weeks lessening the symptoms, then the thrush came back. I have noticed that most every remedy works for me for about two weeks, including anti fungals, but the thrush always comes back. I have wondered if thrush is quickly able to become resistant to most everything. jaysmyne <jaysmyne@...> wrote: Have you tried using Colloidial Silver Water for your thrush? I was skeptic, but at the suggestion of a fellow Candida sufferer at the holistic clinic I go to, I've been swishing about a teaspoon of it in my mouth and gargling with it...then hold it in your mouth as long as you can before you swallow it. I was told to do this three times a day initially, then increase to two teaspoons at a time. In only three days my tongue is looking 80% cleared up, but I had to stop due the pain the mineral was causing my Leaky Gut condition. I'm still using it to swish and gargle with, but then I spit. Once my stomach and gut are more healed and can tolerate it, I will start swallowing the Silver Water again, as it is known to aid in prohibiting the growth of Candida, among other things. Check it out and see what you think. Jules > > > Hey, , I think there are many others going through the same as > you. I've been doing this for 6 mo but I don't binge because if I > do, I'll get awful oral thrush w/swelled up lips and terrible sores. > I keep wondering too though when I'm ever going to get better. I > stick to the diet and take all the supplements and have added a few > more that are recommended on this list that I think will help a lot. > The first few weeks are the hardest. We crave all the things we were > used to eating and it's really hard not to give in to those > cravings. I finally have gotten to the point where I rarely even > think about some of the foods I used to crave so badly. > > Just start again and try sticking to it. If you fall off, don't beat > yourself up about it. Take it a day at a time. You'll get there and > there's lots of people here for support. > > Good luck to you. > > Gail > > > Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've > been doing this for > > months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So, > this is my 8th attempt. > > I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed > borderline a few years ago, so life > > in general has always been more challenging for me. > > > > I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also > scaring the hell out of me > > with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a > million pills.... > > Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to > be a long process. I just > > want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the > hardest. > > > > Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of > people responding who aren't > > even sick anymore. you guys piss me off. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Greetings All It is said that you will go back through everything you have been suffering with as you get better. The two week things sounds about like that. j h <jl_life@...> wrote: Thanks...yes, I used colloidial silver and it worked great for about two weeks lessening the symptoms, then the thrush came back. I have noticed that most every remedy works for me for about two weeks, including anti fungals, but the thrush always comes back. I have wondered if thrush is quickly able to become resistant to most everything. jaysmyne <jaysmyne@...> wrote: Have you tried using Colloidial Silver Water for your thrush? I was skeptic, but at the suggestion of a fellow Candida sufferer at the holistic clinic I go to, I've been swishing about a teaspoon of it in my mouth and gargling with it...then hold it in your mouth as long as you can before you swallow it. I was told to do this three times a day initially, then increase to two teaspoons at a time. In only three days my tongue is looking 80% cleared up, but I had to stop due the pain the mineral was causing my Leaky Gut condition. I'm still using it to swish and gargle with, but then I spit. Once my stomach and gut are more healed and can tolerate it, I will start swallowing the Silver Water again, as it is known to aid in prohibiting the growth of Candida, among other things. Check it out and see what you think. Jules --- In PPD Push the Positive Daily! I hope you and yours are in the best of Health and Spirit. Our Health is Our Responsibility http://a-healing-village.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Well, I can certainly rant about how I feel like a failure. I can't remember the last time I even got to day 1... problem is I'm not as sick as others (yet) so there's less motivation to get better. I'm 23, and I know this will only be the beginning of my health problems if I don't do something now. You'd think continuously reading about the symptoms others are going through would be enough to motivate me, but sadly not. Everything is put off until tomorrow, and there seems to be a part of my brain that still thinks I'm invincible! Depression has always been the culprit that ends my periods of eating well. I know there are ways of dealing with it, but I haven't been successful yet. I've been a depressed person my whole life, and before I got sick I exhibited signs of bipolar. After getting sick, this seems to have been replaced by general depression & anxiety. So I've set myself a new years resolution of doing s Moritz's liver flush program to kick start feeling better then trying my hardest to stick to the candida regime. But then today my order for the kidney cleanse herbs was rejected because I'm in Australia and apparently customs in Australia is too tough to let them in. Small setbacks like this are enough to set off giving up mode and next thing I'm pigging out on chocolate. And then loathing myself for being so weak willed. I look around at most of my friends my age and they're all binge drinking, eating poorly, some smoking; yet they wake up in the morning full of energy and feeling a million dollars while I crawl out of bed feeling $22.50. And none of them understand why I'm not the same as them because its rare to find someone my age who is up to speed with this stuff. It is overwhelming if you read every post about different supplements. My advice would be to find and start off with the basic protocol you want to follow, and only think about adding complexity to it if it isn't working, or if there is a specific problem you need to address. Everyone on this list is dealing with their own set of health problems (I doubt there is a single person who's only issue is candida) so what works for one may not work for another, and what doesn't work for some may work for you. I don't post very often because I rarely have anything positive to contribute! The worse thing is that I have all the information I need to get well at my disposal, and I don't do anything about it. ita > > Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've been doing this for > months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So, this is my 8th attempt. > I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed borderline a few years ago, so life > in general has always been more challenging for me. > > I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also scaring the hell out of me > with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a million pills.... > Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to be a long process. I just > want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the hardest. > > Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of people responding who aren't > even sick anymore. you guys piss me off. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Hi , Sorry to hear of your trouble. Do you know what came first? The candida or the depression? I can think of a few things that might help you. If you like to read, take a look at the book The Diet Cure by Ross. It explains how a lack of amino acids cause depression and food cravings. I know multitudes of people who have gotten rid of depression simply by filling up on amino acids. The body needs 20 of them and can produce some of these but some must be taken via food or supplements. Another reason for depression is environmental toxins. An Alternative Approach to Allergies is one of the best on the subject. Odd things, like sitting in the back seat of a car versus the front seat can bring on an attack. Some people get a runny nose, some people get full blown depression. It may be from certain foods as well. Some foods might be fine for others on a candida diet but they may be a toxin for you. Eat as much organic as you can to avoid putting new toxins in. Since organic food has many times more nutrients, it is worth the extra money. The more we support organic farmers, the more available it will become. Especially meat, if you eat it, must be organic or you are consuming condensed toxins, hormones and antibiotics which will of course affect your moods and your bacteria. If you know that the depression is due to something that's happened in your life and you just can't shake it, you may want to give EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) a try. It works very quickly. You can get a manual at www.emofree.com. It may be easier to work with a practitioner for the first few sessions. Some will work over the phone with you. Once you get the hang of it just do it yourself. I truly believe that most depression is physical and it can go away. I don't feel the need to take tons of supplements. The body is self-correcting and knows what it's doing. We may need to add a few things and temporarily leave some things out but I think common sense must rule. Tons of supplements rarely help anyone but the manufacturer and the people that sell them. If you email me off-group, I'll give you my phone number or give me yours and I'd be happy to guide you through the process of EFT, no charge. If you're outside of North America, you'll need to call me. If I were a gambler I would bet that we can get rid of the failure feelings very quickly! Take care and hope you feel better soon! Sharon > > Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've been doing this for > months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So, this is my 8th attempt. > I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed borderline a few years ago, so life > in general has always been more challenging for me. > > I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also scaring the hell out of me > with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a million pills.... > Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to be a long process. I just > want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the hardest. > > Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of people responding who aren't > even sick anymore. you guys piss me off. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 If you're not worried about the soy warnings, which include goiter, thyroid hormone conversion suppression, thyroiditis and cancer, it's all good. I don't think the yogurts contain enough inulin; if you doubled the yogurt and eliminated the soy you don't have to worry. Many people do better on whey as opposed to yoigurt because yogurt is primarily casein. If you take a probiotic you should take a prebiotic with it to keep it active for a few hours; it's the activity of the probiotic culture that saves the day. Otherwise you're just introducing a very low bacterial count to the stool, which has not been optimized with the feed, rather than optimizing the feed and working it up the numbers to outcompete on the bowel lining. It's possible to do it with food selection but most people would rather have a wider vegetable selection than only high-inulin foods would provide, and simply add inulin to top the prebiotic up to optimal range. Duncan > : Doing the diet and taking PREbiotics, not PRObiotics unless > you want to high-dose them as well, is really the way to go. > PREbiotics feed probiotics, and without their food the probiotics > have little chance at being dominant. > > People who employ the prebiotic approach might be some of the success > stories that you are comparing the diet-alone failure to. > > No doubt bowel ecology change can be done with diet alone but it's a > remarkably slow process as you have discovered; however, using inulin > powder allows changes for the better to happen pretty quickly and you > can even carb-cheat just a bit. Here's the science and a cheap source: > http://tinyurl.com/2m29z > > The fact inulin doesn't feed candida is pretty widely known on this > list but a taboo topic on for no good reason; it's > been in the peer-reviewed archives for many years. Here's some > research to that effect; go about four screens up from this link. > http://tinyurl.com/y7f8od > > Duncan > > --- > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 Are you doing enough fermented foods? I am into raw vegan, totally, but am adding BODY ECOLOGY DIET principles like food combining and the cultured foods totally to my program. PLUS drinking the powerful teas, a quart or 2 a day: red clover, pau d'arco, olive leaf, etc. And rotating the yeast killers: Zeta Force (www.nutra-link.com) ROCKS, oregano oil (whoah!), cumanda (herb), samento (herb), grapefruit seed extract (in lemon water, OJ and GF are too sweet, and alone it tastes like Lysol...), garlic and more. You have to keep rotating because it is pleomorphic, the nasty devil.... I see why my symptoms improve on juice fasts and sometimes persist on a junky raw diet. Mainly, I don't get the probiotics like I should because I don't " love " kraut or rejuvelac, etc. But I am making them my new best friends. I am committing to like a year of no fruit at all and more. I am sooooo tired of this debilitating challenge. I am forcing exercise too. It will NOT get the best of me, it's been my whole life and I'm 32 now. I've made strides, but am prepared to kick it. I believe borderline symptoms are related to candida, btw. I have symptoms of MS, Diabetes, Hypothyroids, Bipolar, ADD and surely others, BUT IT IS ALL MY AWFUL SYSTEMIC CANDIDA that I am committing to getting rid of!!!!!!! a a Albanese School Of RAWk Certified Raw Chef, Raw Nutritionist and Health Coach Advanced Practitioner of The Living Foods Lifestyle www.SchoolOfRAWk.com Coming Soon! SchoolOfRAWk@... (541)915-1995 Subscribe To My FREE Online Bulletin! Email me at SchoolOfRAWk@... Check out School Of RAWk on MySpace! http://www.myspace.com/schoolofrawk __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Warning that the Body Ecology Diet advocates probiotics but not prebiotics. This can be seen as an error by ommission, as prebiotics are much more important than probiotics. I'm sorry you're raw vegan; can you take n-acetylcysteine and selenium to improve your glutathione levels? a, these symptoms: " Hypothyroids, Bipolar, ADD and surely others " that you listed could eaily be caused by nutrient malabsorption and rising toxin load, and they might go away with a Dr. Hoffer approach plus what we do on this list. Undenatured whey could be your strongest ally; can you get to a point where you'll go lacto or are you a committed hard-core vegan? Duncan > > Are you doing enough fermented foods? > > I am into raw vegan, totally, but am adding BODY ECOLOGY DIET principles like food combining and the cultured foods totally to my program. > > PLUS drinking the powerful teas, a quart or 2 a day: red clover, pau d'arco, olive leaf, etc. > > And rotating the yeast killers: Zeta Force (www.nutra-link.com) ROCKS, oregano oil (whoah!), cumanda (herb), samento (herb), grapefruit seed extract (in lemon water, OJ and GF are too sweet, and alone it tastes like Lysol...), garlic and more. You have to keep rotating because it is pleomorphic, the nasty devil.... > > I see why my symptoms improve on juice fasts and sometimes persist on a junky raw diet. Mainly, I don't get the probiotics like I should because I don't " love " kraut or rejuvelac, etc. But I am making them my new best friends. > > I am committing to like a year of no fruit at all and more. I am sooooo tired of this debilitating challenge. > > I am forcing exercise too. It will NOT get the best of me, it's been my whole life and I'm 32 now. I've made strides, but am prepared to kick it. > > I believe borderline symptoms are related to candida, btw. I have symptoms of MS, Diabetes, Hypothyroids, Bipolar, ADD and surely others, BUT IT IS ALL MY AWFUL SYSTEMIC CANDIDA that I am committing to getting rid of!!!!!!! > > a > > > > a Albanese > School Of RAWk > Certified Raw Chef, Raw Nutritionist and Health Coach > Advanced Practitioner of The Living Foods Lifestyle > www.SchoolOfRAWk.com Coming Soon! > SchoolOfRAWk@... > (541)915-1995 > > Subscribe To My FREE Online Bulletin! Email me at SchoolOfRAWk@... > > Check out School Of RAWk on MySpace! http://www.myspace.com/schoolofrawk > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 , I'm new here... Don't feel bad, I'm on my third try. It's been hard for me also, especially during the holidays and having to cook for the family. Is there anyone that has been cured and can lead a normal life? Please let me know, I need some hope. Marsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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