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Wow, , do we piss you off because we are healed and want to help? Or is

it because we want to give hope to people who are sick?

I know this disease is hard, because I DID go through the same hell that you

are going through. I am glad I had so many people helping me, including healed

folks, because all of those people added something positive to my healing

process.

What got me though the tough times was wanting to get rid of my pain and

misery. That is what kept me from bingeing, it's what kept me taking my

supplements and and it kept me sticking to the diet. I also took antifungals.

But no one can be perfect on the diet, so just pick yourself up when you get

off track, dust off your boots and keep going day by day. You CAN get better.

But don't be too hard on yourself if you get off track. Everyone's healing is

unique and you will find your way.

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: Doing the diet and taking PREbiotics, not PRObiotics unless

you want to high-dose them as well, is really the way to go.

PREbiotics feed probiotics, and without their food the probiotics

have little chance at being dominant.

People who employ the prebiotic approach might be some of the success

stories that you are comparing the diet-alone failure to.

No doubt bowel ecology change can be done with diet alone but it's a

remarkably slow process as you have discovered; however, using inulin

powder allows changes for the better to happen pretty quickly and you

can even carb-cheat just a bit. Here's the science and a cheap source:

http://tinyurl.com/2m29z

The fact inulin doesn't feed candida is pretty widely known on this

list but a taboo topic on for no good reason; it's

been in the peer-reviewed archives for many years. Here's some

research to that effect; go about four screens up from this link.

http://tinyurl.com/y7f8od

Duncan

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Hey, , I think there are many others going through the same as

you. I've been doing this for 6 mo but I don't binge because if I

do, I'll get awful oral thrush w/swelled up lips and terrible sores.

I keep wondering too though when I'm ever going to get better. I

stick to the diet and take all the supplements and have added a few

more that are recommended on this list that I think will help a lot.

The first few weeks are the hardest. We crave all the things we were

used to eating and it's really hard not to give in to those

cravings. I finally have gotten to the point where I rarely even

think about some of the foods I used to crave so badly.

Just start again and try sticking to it. If you fall off, don't beat

yourself up about it. Take it a day at a time. You'll get there and

there's lots of people here for support.

Good luck to you.

Gail

> Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've

been doing this for

> months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So,

this is my 8th attempt.

> I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed

borderline a few years ago, so life

> in general has always been more challenging for me.

>

> I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also

scaring the hell out of me

> with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a

million pills....

> Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to

be a long process. I just

> want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the

hardest.

>

> Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of

people responding who aren't

> even sick anymore. you guys piss me off.

>

>

>

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I have the same problem with thrush. It started three years ago and has

progressively gotten worse. The diet helped but did not get rid of it. All I

have to do is eat a cookie or some beans for dinner and the thrush is worse by

morning. I wonder about the diet now..I lost about 30 pounds in all and am VERY

thin right now. Look aneroxic. I am not so sure that limiting so many foods

worked for me, I became so weak from no carbs that I could not go up a flight of

stairs without getting light headed and dizzy!! I started going to a

naturalist to help me, he seems to believe that my stomach acid and bacteria in

my lower intestins are the main reasons my body does not heal itself. The

parasite cleanse, enzymes, acids, herbs, probiotics, sunflower oil pulling do

seem to be helping...but my tongue is still white, especially in the back,

however, right now my tongue is not sore or swollen ..we will see how long this

lasts. I started using tea tree oil again yesterday, just

putting a little bit on my toothbrush while brushing my tongue..felt good!!

Gail <gmgblues@...> wrote:

>

Hey, , I think there are many others going through the same as

you. I've been doing this for 6 mo but I don't binge because if I

do, I'll get awful oral thrush w/swelled up lips and terrible sores.

I keep wondering too though when I'm ever going to get better. I

stick to the diet and take all the supplements and have added a few

more that are recommended on this list that I think will help a lot.

The first few weeks are the hardest. We crave all the things we were

used to eating and it's really hard not to give in to those

cravings. I finally have gotten to the point where I rarely even

think about some of the foods I used to crave so badly.

Just start again and try sticking to it. If you fall off, don't beat

yourself up about it. Take it a day at a time. You'll get there and

there's lots of people here for support.

Good luck to you.

Gail

> Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've

been doing this for

> months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So,

this is my 8th attempt.

> I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed

borderline a few years ago, so life

> in general has always been more challenging for me.

>

> I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also

scaring the hell out of me

> with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a

million pills....

> Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to

be a long process. I just

> want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the

hardest.

>

> Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of

people responding who aren't

> even sick anymore. you guys piss me off.

>

>

>

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Duncan,

I started eating Fieldstone yogurt with inulin and like it alot. I combine it

with my whey powder and organic soymilk for breakfast. I am doing one clove of

garlic with water when I get up...is it ok to have all of this in my stomach

together? I was told to do garlic one day and probiotics the next...does the

prebiotic matter?

Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

: Doing the diet and taking PREbiotics, not PRObiotics unless

you want to high-dose them as well, is really the way to go.

PREbiotics feed probiotics, and without their food the probiotics

have little chance at being dominant.

People who employ the prebiotic approach might be some of the success

stories that you are comparing the diet-alone failure to.

No doubt bowel ecology change can be done with diet alone but it's a

remarkably slow process as you have discovered; however, using inulin

powder allows changes for the better to happen pretty quickly and you

can even carb-cheat just a bit. Here's the science and a cheap source:

http://tinyurl.com/2m29z

The fact inulin doesn't feed candida is pretty widely known on this

list but a taboo topic on for no good reason; it's

been in the peer-reviewed archives for many years. Here's some

research to that effect; go about four screens up from this link.

http://tinyurl.com/y7f8od

Duncan

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Hi ,

I really feel for you, and can relate. On top of Candida I also have

Leaky Gut Syndrome, so my food/supplement options are pretty slim.

Especially since the Leaky Gut is causing me to become intolerant to

something different every other day or week. I've lost so much weight

and can barely leave the house because I'm having to eat about every

2 hours and can't tote along " snacks " or ready-to-eat foods because

of my sensitivities...and the acid reflux that builds when the

stomach's empty too long.

I find what's working best for me tho is just going as natural as I

can with this whole thing. My main focus is diet. I've eliminated

absolutely all sugars, but use Stevia, so I don't feel totally

deprived. I eat mainly veggies, some organic chicken, quinoa, millet,

ground flax that I add to some of my meals, and LOTS of non-

chloronated water. The only supplements I can tolerate right now are

tablets I get from my TCM to help keep my pH up, or else I'm too

acidic. And I've recently been able to tolerate acidophilus after

many failed weeks of attempts. The Leaky Gut wasn't ready for it.

My advice to you is never mind too much what everyone else is doing.

Different things work for different people. Keep it basic. Focus on

the diet, but be sure to eliminate ALL things that may cause your

Candida to flare up. That includes white rice/flour/pasta, all fruit,

all dairy, and unless you can tolerate it...alcohol. I was told by a

nutritionist that carrots are ok for the Candida diet, but that's

contrary to what a Naturopathic Doctor I used to work for said.

Carrots are very sweet...when I juice with them my tongue gets coated

white overnight. So I've decided to eliminate them for now, also.

You'll have to experiment and see what works for you best. Your body

will let you know right away if its ok with something, or not.

Hang in there girl. If I could trade places with you I would. I don't

have the luxury of bingeing or my gut feels like its trying to

squeeze the life outta me...it's painful and debilitating and the

anxiety it causes me makes me wanna die sometimes...and it pisses me

off.

You can do it!

Jules

-- In candidiasis , " sabrinasusen " <sabrinasusen@...>

wrote:

>

> Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've

been doing this for

> months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So,

this is my 8th attempt.

> I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed

borderline a few years ago, so life

> in general has always been more challenging for me.

>

> I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also

scaring the hell out of me

> with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a

million pills....

> Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to

be a long process. I just

> want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the

hardest.

>

> Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of

people responding who aren't

> even sick anymore. you guys piss me off.

>

>

>

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Can you tolerate almond meal or coconut flour? They do well in my stomach. I

eat almond meal muffins alot. Make sure you watch for bad bacteria in the

colon, that will cause alot of pain and not to mention... a very bad stool

odor!!! :-)

jaysmyne <jaysmyne@...> wrote:

Hi ,

I really feel for you, and can relate. On top of Candida I also have

Leaky Gut Syndrome, so my food/supplement options are pretty slim.

Especially since the Leaky Gut is causing me to become intolerant to

something different every other day or week. I've lost so much weight

and can barely leave the house because I'm having to eat about every

2 hours and can't tote along " snacks " or ready-to-eat foods because

of my sensitivities...and the acid reflux that builds when the

stomach's empty too long.

I find what's working best for me tho is just going as natural as I

can with this whole thing. My main focus is diet. I've eliminated

absolutely all sugars, but use Stevia, so I don't feel totally

deprived. I eat mainly veggies, some organic chicken, quinoa, millet,

ground flax that I add to some of my meals, and LOTS of non-

chloronated water. The only supplements I can tolerate right now are

tablets I get from my TCM to help keep my pH up, or else I'm too

acidic. And I've recently been able to tolerate acidophilus after

many failed weeks of attempts. The Leaky Gut wasn't ready for it.

My advice to you is never mind too much what everyone else is doing.

Different things work for different people. Keep it basic. Focus on

the diet, but be sure to eliminate ALL things that may cause your

Candida to flare up. That includes white rice/flour/pasta, all fruit,

all dairy, and unless you can tolerate it...alcohol. I was told by a

nutritionist that carrots are ok for the Candida diet, but that's

contrary to what a Naturopathic Doctor I used to work for said.

Carrots are very sweet...when I juice with them my tongue gets coated

white overnight. So I've decided to eliminate them for now, also.

You'll have to experiment and see what works for you best. Your body

will let you know right away if its ok with something, or not.

Hang in there girl. If I could trade places with you I would. I don't

have the luxury of bingeing or my gut feels like its trying to

squeeze the life outta me...it's painful and debilitating and the

anxiety it causes me makes me wanna die sometimes...and it pisses me

off.

You can do it!

Jules

-- In candidiasis , " sabrinasusen " <sabrinasusen@...>

wrote:

>

> Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've

been doing this for

> months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So,

this is my 8th attempt.

> I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed

borderline a few years ago, so life

> in general has always been more challenging for me.

>

> I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also

scaring the hell out of me

> with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a

million pills....

> Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to

be a long process. I just

> want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the

hardest.

>

> Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of

people responding who aren't

> even sick anymore. you guys piss me off.

>

>

>

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Have you tried using Colloidial Silver Water for your thrush? I was

skeptic, but at the suggestion of a fellow Candida sufferer at the

holistic clinic I go to, I've been swishing about a teaspoon of it in

my mouth and gargling with it...then hold it in your mouth as long as

you can before you swallow it. I was told to do this three times a

day initially, then increase to two teaspoons at a time.

In only three days my tongue is looking 80% cleared up, but I had to

stop due the pain the mineral was causing my Leaky Gut condition. I'm

still using it to swish and gargle with, but then I spit. Once my

stomach and gut are more healed and can tolerate it, I will start

swallowing the Silver Water again, as it is known to aid in

prohibiting the growth of Candida, among other things.

Check it out and see what you think.

Jules

> >

> Hey, , I think there are many others going through the same

as

> you. I've been doing this for 6 mo but I don't binge because if I

> do, I'll get awful oral thrush w/swelled up lips and terrible

sores.

> I keep wondering too though when I'm ever going to get better. I

> stick to the diet and take all the supplements and have added a few

> more that are recommended on this list that I think will help a lot.

> The first few weeks are the hardest. We crave all the things we

were

> used to eating and it's really hard not to give in to those

> cravings. I finally have gotten to the point where I rarely even

> think about some of the foods I used to crave so badly.

>

> Just start again and try sticking to it. If you fall off, don't

beat

> yourself up about it. Take it a day at a time. You'll get there and

> there's lots of people here for support.

>

> Good luck to you.

>

> Gail

>

> > Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've

> been doing this for

> > months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So,

> this is my 8th attempt.

> > I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed

> borderline a few years ago, so life

> > in general has always been more challenging for me.

> >

> > I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And

also

> scaring the hell out of me

> > with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a

> million pills....

> > Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this

to

> be a long process. I just

> > want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is

the

> hardest.

> >

> > Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of

> people responding who aren't

> > even sick anymore. you guys piss me off.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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I'm not sure if I can tolerate almond meal yet, or coconut flour. My

stomach and gut have really been through the wringer the last few

weeks, but are starting to calm down now. I'll wait another week or

so and then try the almond meal. I didn't know there was such a thing

as coconut flour. I'll have to look into that.

I found that the thing that causes me most gut pain is commerical

meats from the grocery store. I'm fine with organic chicken for now.

Later I'll try reintroducing fish again. I tried extra virgin coconut

oil and it's a bit heavy for me right now, but I'll try again in the

New Year.

Funny thing you mentioning the bad stool odor. My TCM keeps asking me

about that, but mine are virtually odorless, if you can believe it,

and have always been that way...most of the time.

In candidiasis , j h <jl_life@...> wrote:

>

> Can you tolerate almond meal or coconut flour? They do well in my

stomach. I eat almond meal muffins alot. Make sure you watch for

bad bacteria in the colon, that will cause alot of pain and not to

mention... a very bad stool odor!!! :-)

>

> jaysmyne <jaysmyne@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> I really feel for you, and can relate. On top of Candida I also

have

> Leaky Gut Syndrome, so my food/supplement options are pretty slim.

> Especially since the Leaky Gut is causing me to become intolerant

to

> something different every other day or week. I've lost so much

weight

> and can barely leave the house because I'm having to eat about

every

> 2 hours and can't tote along " snacks " or ready-to-eat foods because

> of my sensitivities...and the acid reflux that builds when the

> stomach's empty too long.

>

> I find what's working best for me tho is just going as natural as I

> can with this whole thing. My main focus is diet. I've eliminated

> absolutely all sugars, but use Stevia, so I don't feel totally

> deprived. I eat mainly veggies, some organic chicken, quinoa,

millet,

> ground flax that I add to some of my meals, and LOTS of non-

> chloronated water. The only supplements I can tolerate right now

are

> tablets I get from my TCM to help keep my pH up, or else I'm too

> acidic. And I've recently been able to tolerate acidophilus after

> many failed weeks of attempts. The Leaky Gut wasn't ready for it.

>

> My advice to you is never mind too much what everyone else is

doing.

> Different things work for different people. Keep it basic. Focus on

> the diet, but be sure to eliminate ALL things that may cause your

> Candida to flare up. That includes white rice/flour/pasta, all

fruit,

> all dairy, and unless you can tolerate it...alcohol. I was told by

a

> nutritionist that carrots are ok for the Candida diet, but that's

> contrary to what a Naturopathic Doctor I used to work for said.

> Carrots are very sweet...when I juice with them my tongue gets

coated

> white overnight. So I've decided to eliminate them for now, also.

>

> You'll have to experiment and see what works for you best. Your

body

> will let you know right away if its ok with something, or not.

>

> Hang in there girl. If I could trade places with you I would. I

don't

> have the luxury of bingeing or my gut feels like its trying to

> squeeze the life outta me...it's painful and debilitating and the

> anxiety it causes me makes me wanna die sometimes...and it pisses

me

> off.

>

> You can do it!

>

> Jules

>

> -- In candidiasis , " sabrinasusen " <sabrinasusen@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've

> been doing this for

> > months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So,

> this is my 8th attempt.

> > I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed

> borderline a few years ago, so life

> > in general has always been more challenging for me.

> >

> > I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And

also

> scaring the hell out of me

> > with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a

> million pills....

> > Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this

to

> be a long process. I just

> > want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is

the

> hardest.

> >

> > Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of

> people responding who aren't

> > even sick anymore. you guys piss me off.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks...yes, I used colloidial silver and it worked great for about two weeks

lessening the symptoms, then the thrush came back. I have noticed that most

every remedy works for me for about two weeks, including anti fungals, but the

thrush always comes back. I have wondered if thrush is quickly able to become

resistant to most everything.

jaysmyne <jaysmyne@...> wrote: Have you tried using Colloidial

Silver Water for your thrush? I was

skeptic, but at the suggestion of a fellow Candida sufferer at the

holistic clinic I go to, I've been swishing about a teaspoon of it in

my mouth and gargling with it...then hold it in your mouth as long as

you can before you swallow it. I was told to do this three times a

day initially, then increase to two teaspoons at a time.

In only three days my tongue is looking 80% cleared up, but I had to

stop due the pain the mineral was causing my Leaky Gut condition. I'm

still using it to swish and gargle with, but then I spit. Once my

stomach and gut are more healed and can tolerate it, I will start

swallowing the Silver Water again, as it is known to aid in

prohibiting the growth of Candida, among other things.

Check it out and see what you think.

Jules

> >

> Hey, , I think there are many others going through the same

as

> you. I've been doing this for 6 mo but I don't binge because if I

> do, I'll get awful oral thrush w/swelled up lips and terrible

sores.

> I keep wondering too though when I'm ever going to get better. I

> stick to the diet and take all the supplements and have added a few

> more that are recommended on this list that I think will help a lot.

> The first few weeks are the hardest. We crave all the things we

were

> used to eating and it's really hard not to give in to those

> cravings. I finally have gotten to the point where I rarely even

> think about some of the foods I used to crave so badly.

>

> Just start again and try sticking to it. If you fall off, don't

beat

> yourself up about it. Take it a day at a time. You'll get there and

> there's lots of people here for support.

>

> Good luck to you.

>

> Gail

>

> > Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've

> been doing this for

> > months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So,

> this is my 8th attempt.

> > I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed

> borderline a few years ago, so life

> > in general has always been more challenging for me.

> >

> > I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And

also

> scaring the hell out of me

> > with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a

> million pills....

> > Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this

to

> be a long process. I just

> > want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is

the

> hardest.

> >

> > Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of

> people responding who aren't

> > even sick anymore. you guys piss me off.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Greetings All

It is said that you will go back through everything you have been suffering with

as you get better. The two week things sounds about like that.

j h <jl_life@...> wrote: Thanks...yes, I

used colloidial silver and it worked great for about two weeks lessening the

symptoms, then the thrush came back. I have noticed that most every remedy

works for me for about two weeks, including anti fungals, but the thrush always

comes back. I have wondered if thrush is quickly able to become resistant to

most everything.

jaysmyne <jaysmyne@...> wrote: Have you tried using Colloidial

Silver Water for your thrush? I was

skeptic, but at the suggestion of a fellow Candida sufferer at the

holistic clinic I go to, I've been swishing about a teaspoon of it in

my mouth and gargling with it...then hold it in your mouth as long as

you can before you swallow it. I was told to do this three times a

day initially, then increase to two teaspoons at a time.

In only three days my tongue is looking 80% cleared up, but I had to

stop due the pain the mineral was causing my Leaky Gut condition. I'm

still using it to swish and gargle with, but then I spit. Once my

stomach and gut are more healed and can tolerate it, I will start

swallowing the Silver Water again, as it is known to aid in

prohibiting the growth of Candida, among other things.

Check it out and see what you think.

Jules

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Well, I can certainly rant about how I feel like a failure.

I can't remember the last time I even got to day 1... problem is I'm

not as sick as others (yet) so there's less motivation to get better.

I'm 23, and I know this will only be the beginning of my health

problems if I don't do something now. You'd think continuously reading

about the symptoms others are going through would be enough to

motivate me, but sadly not. Everything is put off until tomorrow, and

there seems to be a part of my brain that still thinks I'm invincible!

Depression has always been the culprit that ends my periods of eating

well. I know there are ways of dealing with it, but I haven't been

successful yet. I've been a depressed person my whole life, and before

I got sick I exhibited signs of bipolar. After getting sick, this

seems to have been replaced by general depression & anxiety.

So I've set myself a new years resolution of doing s Moritz's

liver flush program to kick start feeling better then trying my

hardest to stick to the candida regime. But then today my order for

the kidney cleanse herbs was rejected because I'm in Australia and

apparently customs in Australia is too tough to let them in. Small

setbacks like this are enough to set off giving up mode and next thing

I'm pigging out on chocolate. And then loathing myself for being so

weak willed.

I look around at most of my friends my age and they're all binge

drinking, eating poorly, some smoking; yet they wake up in the morning

full of energy and feeling a million dollars while I crawl out of bed

feeling $22.50. And none of them understand why I'm not the same as

them because its rare to find someone my age who is up to speed with

this stuff.

It is overwhelming if you read every post about different supplements.

My advice would be to find and start off with the basic protocol you

want to follow, and only think about adding complexity to it if it

isn't working, or if there is a specific problem you need to address.

Everyone on this list is dealing with their own set of health problems

(I doubt there is a single person who's only issue is candida) so what

works for one may not work for another, and what doesn't work for some

may work for you.

I don't post very often because I rarely have anything positive to

contribute! The worse thing is that I have all the information I need

to get well at my disposal, and I don't do anything about it.

ita

>

> Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've

been doing this for

> months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So,

this is my 8th attempt.

> I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed borderline

a few years ago, so life

> in general has always been more challenging for me.

>

> I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also

scaring the hell out of me

> with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a

million pills....

> Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this to

be a long process. I just

> want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is the

hardest.

>

> Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of people

responding who aren't

> even sick anymore. you guys piss me off.

>

>

>

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Hi ,

Sorry to hear of your trouble. Do you know what came first? The

candida or the depression? I can think of a few things that might

help you. If you like to read, take a look at the book The Diet

Cure by Ross. It explains how a lack of amino acids cause

depression and food cravings. I know multitudes of people who have

gotten rid of depression simply by filling up on amino acids. The

body needs 20 of them and can produce some of these but some must be

taken via food or supplements.

Another reason for depression is environmental toxins. An

Alternative Approach to Allergies is one of the best on the

subject. Odd things, like sitting in the back seat of a car versus

the front seat can bring on an attack. Some people get a runny

nose, some people get full blown depression. It may be from certain

foods as well. Some foods might be fine for others on a candida

diet but they may be a toxin for you. Eat as much organic as you

can to avoid putting new toxins in. Since organic food has many

times more nutrients, it is worth the extra money. The more we

support organic farmers, the more available it will become.

Especially meat, if you eat it, must be organic or you are consuming

condensed toxins, hormones and antibiotics which will of course

affect your moods and your bacteria.

If you know that the depression is due to something that's happened

in your life and you just can't shake it, you may want to give EFT

(Emotional Freedom Technique) a try. It works very quickly. You

can get a manual at www.emofree.com. It may be easier to work with

a practitioner for the first few sessions. Some will work over the

phone with you. Once you get the hang of it just do it yourself.

I truly believe that most depression is physical and it can go

away. I don't feel the need to take tons of supplements. The body

is self-correcting and knows what it's doing. We may need to add a

few things and temporarily leave some things out but I think common

sense must rule. Tons of supplements rarely help anyone but the

manufacturer and the people that sell them.

If you email me off-group, I'll give you my phone number or give me

yours and I'd be happy to guide you through the process of EFT, no

charge. If you're outside of North America, you'll need to call me.

If I were a gambler I would bet that we can get rid of the failure

feelings very quickly!

Take care and hope you feel better soon!

Sharon

>

> Is there anyone else who is having as hard of a time as me? I've

been doing this for

> months but keep going back to bingeing when I get depressed. So,

this is my 8th attempt.

> I don't know why its so difficult for me. I was diagnosed

borderline a few years ago, so life

> in general has always been more challenging for me.

>

> I feel like a failure. Everyone on here is doing so well. And also

scaring the hell out of me

> with all this bla bla bla about eat this, drink raw egg, take a

million pills....

> Can't I just do the diet and take probiotics? I'm expecting this

to be a long process. I just

> want to be able to get over this hump because the first week is

the hardest.

>

> Please respond if you are going through this too. I'm sick of

people responding who aren't

> even sick anymore. you guys piss me off.

>

>

>

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If you're not worried about the soy warnings, which include goiter,

thyroid hormone conversion suppression, thyroiditis and cancer, it's

all good.

I don't think the yogurts contain enough inulin; if you doubled the

yogurt and eliminated the soy you don't have to worry. Many people do

better on whey as opposed to yoigurt because yogurt is primarily

casein.

If you take a probiotic you should take a prebiotic with it to keep

it active for a few hours; it's the activity of the probiotic culture

that saves the day. Otherwise you're just introducing a very low

bacterial count to the stool, which has not been optimized with the

feed, rather than optimizing the feed and working it up the numbers

to outcompete on the bowel lining.

It's possible to do it with food selection but most people would

rather have a wider vegetable selection than only high-inulin foods

would provide, and simply add inulin to top the prebiotic up to

optimal range.

Duncan

> : Doing the diet and taking PREbiotics, not

PRObiotics unless

> you want to high-dose them as well, is really the way to go.

> PREbiotics feed probiotics, and without their food the probiotics

> have little chance at being dominant.

>

> People who employ the prebiotic approach might be some of the

success

> stories that you are comparing the diet-alone failure to.

>

> No doubt bowel ecology change can be done with diet alone but it's

a

> remarkably slow process as you have discovered; however, using

inulin

> powder allows changes for the better to happen pretty quickly and

you

> can even carb-cheat just a bit. Here's the science and a cheap

source:

> http://tinyurl.com/2m29z

>

> The fact inulin doesn't feed candida is pretty widely known on this

> list but a taboo topic on for no good reason; it's

> been in the peer-reviewed archives for many years. Here's some

> research to that effect; go about four screens up from this link.

> http://tinyurl.com/y7f8od

>

> Duncan

>

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>

>

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Are you doing enough fermented foods?

I am into raw vegan, totally, but am adding BODY ECOLOGY DIET principles like

food combining and the cultured foods totally to my program.

PLUS drinking the powerful teas, a quart or 2 a day: red clover, pau d'arco,

olive leaf, etc.

And rotating the yeast killers: Zeta Force (www.nutra-link.com) ROCKS,

oregano oil (whoah!), cumanda (herb), samento (herb), grapefruit seed extract

(in lemon water, OJ and GF are too sweet, and alone it tastes like Lysol...),

garlic and more. You have to keep rotating because it is pleomorphic, the nasty

devil....

I see why my symptoms improve on juice fasts and sometimes persist on a junky

raw diet. Mainly, I don't get the probiotics like I should because I don't

" love " kraut or rejuvelac, etc. But I am making them my new best friends.

I am committing to like a year of no fruit at all and more. I am sooooo tired

of this debilitating challenge.

I am forcing exercise too. It will NOT get the best of me, it's been my whole

life and I'm 32 now. I've made strides, but am prepared to kick it.

I believe borderline symptoms are related to candida, btw. I have symptoms of

MS, Diabetes, Hypothyroids, Bipolar, ADD and surely others, BUT IT IS ALL MY

AWFUL SYSTEMIC CANDIDA that I am committing to getting rid of!!!!!!!

a

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Warning that the Body Ecology Diet advocates probiotics but not

prebiotics. This can be seen as an error by ommission, as prebiotics

are much more important than probiotics.

I'm sorry you're raw vegan; can you take n-acetylcysteine and

selenium to improve your glutathione levels?

a, these symptoms: " Hypothyroids, Bipolar, ADD and surely others "

that you listed could eaily be caused by nutrient malabsorption and

rising toxin load, and they might go away with a Dr. Hoffer approach

plus what we do on this list. Undenatured whey could be your

strongest ally; can you get to a point where you'll go lacto or are

you a committed hard-core vegan?

Duncan

>

> Are you doing enough fermented foods?

>

> I am into raw vegan, totally, but am adding BODY ECOLOGY DIET

principles like food combining and the cultured foods totally to my

program.

>

> PLUS drinking the powerful teas, a quart or 2 a day: red clover,

pau d'arco, olive leaf, etc.

>

> And rotating the yeast killers: Zeta Force (www.nutra-link.com)

ROCKS, oregano oil (whoah!), cumanda (herb), samento (herb),

grapefruit seed extract (in lemon water, OJ and GF are too sweet, and

alone it tastes like Lysol...), garlic and more. You have to keep

rotating because it is pleomorphic, the nasty devil....

>

> I see why my symptoms improve on juice fasts and sometimes

persist on a junky raw diet. Mainly, I don't get the probiotics like

I should because I don't " love " kraut or rejuvelac, etc. But I am

making them my new best friends.

>

> I am committing to like a year of no fruit at all and more. I am

sooooo tired of this debilitating challenge.

>

> I am forcing exercise too. It will NOT get the best of me, it's

been my whole life and I'm 32 now. I've made strides, but am prepared

to kick it.

>

> I believe borderline symptoms are related to candida, btw. I have

symptoms of MS, Diabetes, Hypothyroids, Bipolar, ADD and surely

others, BUT IT IS ALL MY AWFUL SYSTEMIC CANDIDA that I am committing

to getting rid of!!!!!!!

>

> a

>

>

>

> a Albanese

> School Of RAWk

> Certified Raw Chef, Raw Nutritionist and Health Coach

> Advanced Practitioner of The Living Foods Lifestyle

> www.SchoolOfRAWk.com Coming Soon!

> SchoolOfRAWk@...

> (541)915-1995

>

> Subscribe To My FREE Online Bulletin! Email me at SchoolOfRAWk@...

>

> Check out School Of RAWk on MySpace!

http://www.myspace.com/schoolofrawk

> __________________________________________________

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,

I'm new here... Don't feel bad, I'm on my third try. It's been hard for me

also, especially during the holidays and having to cook for the family. Is

there anyone that has been cured and can lead a normal life? Please let me

know,

I need some hope.

Marsha

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