Re: More Inulin Questions - Duncan & anyone

[Guest guest]

The Klebsiella study is in my inulin references and it's the one from

which the table on my inulin page was taken.

The study shows that klebsiella and several other pathogenic strains

fail to grow even in a carefully controlled test tube environment,

even with an extra week of incubation. The one exception with one

strain was variable, i.e. they couldn't reliably get growth even in

optimal conditions. In the natural environment though, there is too

much competition for klebsiella to survive in the bowel for long

using even native inulin.

Duncan

>

>

> Hi folks,

>

> I'm new to the group and have been mostly collecting information

since I've joined. At some point I'd like to write out my saga, but

momentarily I'm really interested in learning about Inulin, and

whether or not it's warranted in my case. A CDSA yielded a high

growth of Klebsiella Pneumoniae and NO growth of one of the

beneficial bacteria (can't remember which one). Klebsiella seems to

be one of the bacteria in question when it comes to Inulin, and I've

read elsewhere a strong argument agaisnt using Inulin, especially in

the case with Klebsiella. I've visited your site Duncan and have

read all that you referenced, even ordered the NOW Inulin. I visited

the Pub Med site as well and found some conflicting studies - or

maybe I'm interpreting them incorrectly. I'd really like your input,

if you would, regarding the following studies on Pub Med:

>

> Fermentation of polysaccharides by Klebsielleae and other

facultative bacilli.

>

> The effect of inulin on the biological properties of

enterobacteria

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search & DB=pubmed

>

> Thanks so much!

> Bernadette

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Duncan for the reassurance/clarification. I'm taking counsel from you

re: inulin. I rec'd my Inulin yesterday. Yummo, tastes like graham crackers! My

stomach began fermenting (gurgling sounds) within a couple hours of taking it.

I'm hoping this is a positive sign - felt like it. Also, your addressing the

immune system dysregulation with whey protein is a very thorough approach. Is

the immune system essentially the gut? I've heard that our gut forms 70-90% of

our immune system. I also rec'd Oil of Oregano. Boy, this stuff is potent. I

put the tiniest fraction on my tongue for taste and I was on fire for a while.

Can't imagine Klebsiella surviving that.

Thanks again!

Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

The Klebsiella study is in my inulin references and it's the one from

which the table on my inulin page was taken.

The study shows that klebsiella and several other pathogenic strains

fail to grow even in a carefully controlled test tube environment,

even with an extra week of incubation. The one exception with one

strain was variable, i.e. they couldn't reliably get growth even in

optimal conditions. In the natural environment though, there is too

much competition for klebsiella to survive in the bowel for long

using even native inulin.

Duncan

>

>

> Hi folks,

>

> I'm new to the group and have been mostly collecting information

since I've joined. At some point I'd like to write out my saga, but

momentarily I'm really interested in learning about Inulin, and

whether or not it's warranted in my case. A CDSA yielded a high

growth of Klebsiella Pneumoniae and NO growth of one of the

beneficial bacteria (can't remember which one). Klebsiella seems to

be one of the bacteria in question when it comes to Inulin, and I've

read elsewhere a strong argument agaisnt using Inulin, especially in

the case with Klebsiella. I've visited your site Duncan and have

read all that you referenced, even ordered the NOW Inulin. I visited

the Pub Med site as well and found some conflicting studies - or

maybe I'm interpreting them incorrectly. I'd really like your input,

if you would, regarding the following studies on Pub Med:

>

> Fermentation of polysaccharides by Klebsielleae and other

facultative bacilli.

>

> The effect of inulin on the biological properties of

enterobacteria

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search & DB=pubmed

>

> Thanks so much!

> Bernadette

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Can someone tell me what is the best Inulin brand. I have been to Whole

Foods and two other places in Dallas and nothing.

Bill

[Guest guest]

Bernadette, it IS pretty cool that we can address immune system

dysregulation with whey (and selenium) and bowel dysbiosis with

inulin, making them probably the top two of the most powerful health

foods for the range of what they can accomplish.

70% of the immune system SURROUNDS the gut. There is no immune system

in the gut; only in the tissues of the body.

Duncan

> >

> >

> > Hi folks,

> >

> > I'm new to the group and have been mostly collecting information

> since I've joined. At some point I'd like to write out my saga, but

> momentarily I'm really interested in learning about Inulin, and

> whether or not it's warranted in my case. A CDSA yielded a high

> growth of Klebsiella Pneumoniae and NO growth of one of the

> beneficial bacteria (can't remember which one). Klebsiella seems to

> be one of the bacteria in question when it comes to Inulin, and

I've

> read elsewhere a strong argument agaisnt using Inulin, especially

in

> the case with Klebsiella. I've visited your site Duncan and have

> read all that you referenced, even ordered the NOW Inulin. I

visited

> the Pub Med site as well and found some conflicting studies - or

> maybe I'm interpreting them incorrectly. I'd really like your

input,

> if you would, regarding the following studies on Pub Med:

> >

> > Fermentation of polysaccharides by Klebsielleae and other

> facultative bacilli.

> >

> > The effect of inulin on the biological properties of

> enterobacteria

> >

> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search & DB=pubmed

> >

> > Thanks so much!

> > Bernadette

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Bill, there's almost no difference between different brands of native

inulins; about 80% of the world's inulin comes from three companies.

When you get into long-chain fractions then the differences get more

interesting.

Duncan

>

> Can someone tell me what is the best Inulin brand. I have been to

Whole

> Foods and two other places in Dallas and nothing.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your immune system is a lot more than the gut. The tonsils and appendix are very

large parts, for example.

a Albanese

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