Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Willem I had all of this - the worms breaking through the colon is very true. And I wondered why (when I took a parasite cleanse) that dead thread worms emerged through the skin out of the lung area. Now I know. Cloves kills eggs quite effectively. I used a wonderful detoxer called 'pinnacle tonic' in Australia. GOD - you wouldn't believe what came out of me. I kept taking it for 4 months (I was taking it when a dozen fleshy things which matched up exactly to photos of tumours in medical text books were excreted). Although I can't seem to completely eliminate the worm problem, it's down to just about nothing. Helen willem <willem432@...> wrote: I would like to add to your post Asli. I've been taking these herbs for the past few days and am finding this topic particularly interesting. Apparently if one goes on this parasite cleanse referenced from curezone a person should stay on it for a full thirty days. The eggs from roundworms for example are very resilient to almost anything thrown at it. A dead round worm can have many eggs incubating only to hatch and start over if the protocol is stopped prematurely. Another comment is to keep extremely hydrated so the body can flush all the toxins, dying systemic Candida and even viruses are released by dying parasites. Apparently one in four people are infected with worms...Ascaris or roundworm being the worst. For most people they aren't prevalent enough to be pathogenic. If enough parasites are in the body they can inflame the colon and break into the body. Also there can be so many worms that an infamous worm ball can actually intermittently block the passage of foods. A possible connection to acid reflux? Round worms apparently need aeration for their eggs to develop properly so they make their way to the lungs. Once developed they make their way out of the lungs back into the GI track. Absolutely amazing and horrifying. An excellent reference to worms can be found here: http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/parasitology/nematodes.htm and of course curezone. As a suggestion to someone curious if they have worms go for a stool sample. If yes go for the herbs Asli mentioned at curezone and also consider buying or building a zapper. http://curezone.com/clark/zapping.asp Willem Asli Kumcu wrote: > Dear Greg, > > My 2 cents -- Two things that have helped me with reflux (but mine was > cronic) > > 1 - Montingac diet, where you don't combine carbs and oil/fats/proteins in > the same meal. Carbs includes any grains, fruits, etc. I guess if you're > on a candida diet then this won't be a problem, but do try to eat the carbs > separately if you are eating them (i.e. couple of hours/before each other). > > 2 - A Parasite cleanse completely got rid of my reflux in 10 days after a > particularly bad bout of candida! http://curezone.com/clark/parasites.asp > > Have you been eliminating well? I've found that basically if your bowels > are full then reflux follows since the stomach contents don't have anywhere > to go. > > If you have had reflux for a long time, please go get an endoscopy!!! My > father passed from cancer because he had cronic reflux and never got it > checked out... > > > Re: inulin and sibo? > > > Well I test positive on the spit test and scored around a 180 on the > candida questionnaire. The diet and supplements have helped a good > deal with my allergies, hay fever, brain fog, and overall energy, but > the bloating and reflux seem to be unchanged which led us to believe > it could be SIBO, but I have not established that. I have been tested > for H. pylori and it was negative. I don't have ulcers or stomach > pain, just bloating and reflux, like there's a massive overproduction > of gas in the small intestine. I was thinking maybe I'll finish this > round of antibacterials and then start on the inulin again after > getting some numbers evened in the intestines. OR do you think the > inulin can only help? Is 30-40g daily too much? > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Greetings All Be VERY VERY careful to start out slowly when you are going to get rid of things. The dead parasites are as bad as the live ones to the body. Make sure you are drinking enough water to remove the junk that will come out. You can feel very weak around the time you do the cleanse so go s l o w l y. As for the cloves, even if you use one clove in tea, you will get some action. I once thought it would be a good idea to have some Clove and Cinnamon tea. The first batch was wonderful. I let the bark sit for a day and then did some more. Well, I tell you, that second soaked tea was enough to make the hairs come right off of the head of your closest neighbor. And it still tasted good!!! Went down smoothly and all. But, the body wanted to release all of the things I had killed and brought out to be the next in line for going out...it was a bit tooooo much. So, please take your time and go even slower then Dr. says until you know enough about your bodies reaction to go full bore. All of you oldtimers...just do it! NieeMA Helen deHavilland <helen_dehavilland@...> wrote: Willem I had all of this - the worms breaking through the colon is very true. And I wondered why (when I took a parasite cleanse) that dead thread worms emerged through the skin out of the lung area. Now I know. Cloves kills eggs quite effectively. I used a wonderful detoxer called 'pinnacle tonic' in Australia. GOD - you wouldn't believe what came out of me. I kept taking it for 4 months (I was taking it when a dozen fleshy things which matched up exactly to photos of tumours in medical text books were excreted). Although I can't seem to completely eliminate the worm problem, it's down to just about nothing. Helen PPD Push the Positive Daily! I hope you and yours are in the best of Health and Spirit. Our Health is Our Responsibility http://a-healing-village.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Wow amazing info Willem. Thanks! I hadn't really investigate the whole topic in depth, just knew that it helped me. Interesting link to the reflux, very disgusting though.. i just hate the idea of parasites.. I'd rather talk about enemas Helen - do you have more info on the pinnacle tonic? Can you get it in other places? My kinesiologist said to do the parasite cleanse until all the capsules were finished, which was about one month. Hulda clark recommends a maintenance plan where you take the herbs one day , once a week, after the one month cleanse. Not bad idea, espeically if you're getting reinfected or you haven't managed to kill it all off. You;'re right about the water as well - you have to drink plenty of water to flush it all out. The parasite cleanse program that I did was from a company in the netherlands, and in addition to the cloves, wormwood, and walnut tincture, they also have you take capsules that contain psyllium, probiotics, Vit A, E, B5, C, Biotin, Selenium, L-arginine, L-ornithine. Regarding the stool test - I wanted to get it done because I was so sick that I was not able to work, but the naturpath i was going to at the time said that they probably wouldn't be able to detect anything, so I never got one done. Anyone have any success with these tests? (And convincing the doctor to order them for you?) I tried to talk to my doctor about it but he just wanted to give me a prescirption of prozac... he's not my doctor any more!! asli Re: Re: parasite infection - Willem - I had all of this Willem I had all of this - the worms breaking through the colon is very true. And I wondered why (when I took a parasite cleanse) that dead thread worms emerged through the skin out of the lung area. Now I know. Cloves kills eggs quite effectively. I used a wonderful detoxer called 'pinnacle tonic' in Australia. GOD - you wouldn't believe what came out of me. I kept taking it for 4 months (I was taking it when a dozen fleshy things which matched up exactly to photos of tumours in medical text books were excreted). Although I can't seem to completely eliminate the worm problem, it's down to just about nothing. Helen willem <willem432@...> wrote: I would like to add to your post Asli. I've been taking these herbs for the past few days and am finding this topic particularly interesting. Apparently if one goes on this parasite cleanse referenced from curezone a person should stay on it for a full thirty days. The eggs from roundworms for example are very resilient to almost anything thrown at it. A dead round worm can have many eggs incubating only to hatch and start over if the protocol is stopped prematurely. Another comment is to keep extremely hydrated so the body can flush all the toxins, dying systemic Candida and even viruses are released by dying parasites. Apparently one in four people are infected with worms...Ascaris or roundworm being the worst. For most people they aren't prevalent enough to be pathogenic. If enough parasites are in the body they can inflame the colon and break into the body. Also there can be so many worms that an infamous worm ball can actually intermittently block the passage of foods. A possible connection to acid reflux? Round worms apparently need aeration for their eggs to develop properly so they make their way to the lungs. Once developed they make their way out of the lungs back into the GI track. Absolutely amazing and horrifying. An excellent reference to worms can be found here: http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/parasitology/nematodes.htm and of course curezone. As a suggestion to someone curious if they have worms go for a stool sample. If yes go for the herbs Asli mentioned at curezone and also consider buying or building a zapper. http://curezone.com/clark/zapping.asp Willem . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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