Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 I don't recall that your problem was established to be either candida or SIBO; if it is SIBO it could be one of the other SIBO germs. Also, if it is indeed SIBO as it seems it is, the area is very low in probiotics and it would take a while, probably many months to clear it, although the coconut oil should have helped. I could only suggest antibiotics (Ugh!) as an alternative so for me personally I'd go the months with natural treatment first. I don't think the inulin has potential for harm but sure you could stop taking the inulin, or even all of the supplements, and re- introduce them slowly and try to see if it changes anything. Ever consider H. pylori, a stomach and very upper intestinal rather than a purely intestinal bug? Do you occasianlly see a gastroenterologist? Duncan > > Duncan, man with the plan, > > I have been on a regimine that almost exactly matches your protocol. > 4g cod liver oil, magnesium/calcium/zinc, B-complex, 200mg selenium, > C-complex, 6 tbsp VCO, 60-90g undenatured whey, >15g inulin, one meat > meal, and one green vegetable meal daily. I have been doing this for > nearly 2 monthes along with natural antibacterials and antifungals off > and on. I do generally feel better on this protocol than off(thank > you very much for advice), but I can't seem to get over the bloating > and reflux. In the past week I was taking as much as 40g of inulin a > day due to measurement mistake, but the reflux lately has been > horrible. I am fully regurgitating mouthfuls at a time frequently and > at unusual times(i.e. 3-4 hours after meals and without exercise > induction). > > So my question is whether the inulin could be feeding on whatever it > is I'm dealing with(SIBO?) if my major problem is no longer candida. > I do not wish to stop supplementing with inulin as it seems like one > of the most logical and helpful things I could do, but I cannot find > anything else that I have changed that has a positive correlation to > this. At what point does this start getting better? > > greg > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 Well I test positive on the spit test and scored around a 180 on the candida questionnaire. The diet and supplements have helped a good deal with my allergies, hay fever, brain fog, and overall energy, but the bloating and reflux seem to be unchanged which led us to believe it could be SIBO, but I have not established that. I have been tested for H. pylori and it was negative. I don't have ulcers or stomach pain, just bloating and reflux, like there's a massive overproduction of gas in the small intestine. I was thinking maybe I'll finish this round of antibacterials and then start on the inulin again after getting some numbers evened in the intestines. OR do you think the inulin can only help? Is 30-40g daily too much? greg > I don't recall that your problem was established to be either candida > or SIBO; if it is SIBO it could be one of the other SIBO germs. > > Also, if it is indeed SIBO as it seems it is, the area is very low in > probiotics and it would take a while, probably many months to clear > it, although the coconut oil should have helped. > > I could only suggest antibiotics (Ugh!) as an alternative so for me > personally I'd go the months with natural treatment first. > > I don't think the inulin has potential for harm but sure you could > stop taking the inulin, or even all of the supplements, and re- > introduce them slowly and try to see if it changes anything. > > Ever consider H. pylori, a stomach and very upper intestinal rather > than a purely intestinal bug? > > Do you occasianlly see a gastroenterologist? > > Duncan > > > > > > Duncan, man with the plan, > > > > I have been on a regimine that almost exactly matches your protocol. > > 4g cod liver oil, magnesium/calcium/zinc, B-complex, 200mg selenium, > > C-complex, 6 tbsp VCO, 60-90g undenatured whey, >15g inulin, one > meat > > meal, and one green vegetable meal daily. I have been doing this > for > > nearly 2 monthes along with natural antibacterials and antifungals > off > > and on. I do generally feel better on this protocol than off(thank > > you very much for advice), but I can't seem to get over the bloating > > and reflux. In the past week I was taking as much as 40g of inulin > a > > day due to measurement mistake, but the reflux lately has been > > horrible. I am fully regurgitating mouthfuls at a time frequently > and > > at unusual times(i.e. 3-4 hours after meals and without exercise > > induction). > > > > So my question is whether the inulin could be feeding on whatever it > > is I'm dealing with(SIBO?) if my major problem is no longer > candida. > > I do not wish to stop supplementing with inulin as it seems like one > > of the most logical and helpful things I could do, but I cannot find > > anything else that I have changed that has a positive correlation to > > this. At what point does this start getting better? > > > > greg > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 A knowledgeable gastro may help us here. I can say that Australian aborigines got 200 grams or more of inulin in their historic diet so 40 grams can't be seen as " too much " . You could cut back to the optimal dose from all sources of around 12-15 grams and see if that's it. I do think the inulin can only help but because most of it reaches the lower bowel obviously it is of less use in the upper intestine. Duncan that at this point a p > > Well I test positive on the spit test and scored around a 180 on the > candida questionnaire. The diet and supplements have helped a good > deal with my allergies, hay fever, brain fog, and overall energy, but > the bloating and reflux seem to be unchanged which led us to believe > it could be SIBO, but I have not established that. I have been tested > for H. pylori and it was negative. I don't have ulcers or stomach > pain, just bloating and reflux, like there's a massive overproduction > of gas in the small intestine. I was thinking maybe I'll finish this > round of antibacterials and then start on the inulin again after > getting some numbers evened in the intestines. OR do you think the > inulin can only help? Is 30-40g daily too much? > > greg > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Dear Greg, My 2 cents -- Two things that have helped me with reflux (but mine was cronic) 1 - Montingac diet, where you don't combine carbs and oil/fats/proteins in the same meal. Carbs includes any grains, fruits, etc. I guess if you're on a candida diet then this won't be a problem, but do try to eat the carbs separately if you are eating them (i.e. couple of hours/before each other). 2 - A Parasite cleanse completely got rid of my reflux in 10 days after a particularly bad bout of candida! http://curezone.com/clark/parasites.asp Have you been eliminating well? I've found that basically if your bowels are full then reflux follows since the stomach contents don't have anywhere to go. If you have had reflux for a long time, please go get an endoscopy!!! My father passed from cancer because he had cronic reflux and never got it checked out... Re: inulin and sibo? Well I test positive on the spit test and scored around a 180 on the candida questionnaire. The diet and supplements have helped a good deal with my allergies, hay fever, brain fog, and overall energy, but the bloating and reflux seem to be unchanged which led us to believe it could be SIBO, but I have not established that. I have been tested for H. pylori and it was negative. I don't have ulcers or stomach pain, just bloating and reflux, like there's a massive overproduction of gas in the small intestine. I was thinking maybe I'll finish this round of antibacterials and then start on the inulin again after getting some numbers evened in the intestines. OR do you think the inulin can only help? Is 30-40g daily too much? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Hey Asli, > 1 - Montingac diet, where you don't combine carbs and oil/fats/proteins in > the same meal. Carbs includes any grains, fruits, etc. I guess if you're > on a candida diet then this won't be a problem, but do try to eat the carbs > separately if you are eating them (i.e. couple of hours/before each other). I have been eating only green vegetables for carbs and never at the same time as I eat meat. I have been doing this for about 2 monthes and the reflux persists. It seems independant from meal times too as I get it all day, even if I only eat 2 meals for the whole day. > 2 - A Parasite cleanse completely got rid of my reflux in 10 days after a > particularly bad bout of candida! http://curezone.com/clark/parasites.asp I am on about the 20th day of a the renew life paragone cleanse which has all those ingredients plus some. It doesn't seem like the dosage is as high though, so I think I might try the Cleanse since you so highly recommend it. > Have you been eliminating well? I've found that basically if your bowels > are full then reflux follows since the stomach contents don't have anywhere > to go. I think there is alot of truth to this because I have had slow elimination for a long time and am always bloated. The parasite cleanse has actually been normalizing this for me somewhat, but when I took a 5 day break from it, I got slowed down again. When I take psyllium, sometimes it helps, but just as often it constipates me even more. > If you have had reflux for a long time, please go get an endoscopy!!! I have gotten an endoscopy and of course my esophagus was highly irritaed, but it didn't reveal any new information. My gastroenterologist just throws more PPI's at me. Thanks for the recommendations. I think I will try the clark approach. greg > > > Re: inulin and sibo? > > > Well I test positive on the spit test and scored around a 180 on the > candida questionnaire. The diet and supplements have helped a good > deal with my allergies, hay fever, brain fog, and overall energy, but > the bloating and reflux seem to be unchanged which led us to believe > it could be SIBO, but I have not established that. I have been tested > for H. pylori and it was negative. I don't have ulcers or stomach > pain, just bloating and reflux, like there's a massive overproduction > of gas in the small intestine. I was thinking maybe I'll finish this > round of antibacterials and then start on the inulin again after > getting some numbers evened in the intestines. OR do you think the > inulin can only help? Is 30-40g daily too much? > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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