Re: Candida myth busted: alcohol-using candida

[Guest guest]

Hi Duncan

Is there any alcohol that is better than the others to have? I know my

father (as a diabetic) was told to drink whiskey as it is lowest in

sugar levels.

Keen

Re: Candida myth busted: alcohol-using candida

The potential for alcohol to materially increase bacterial count

before it absorbs into your system is fairly low; I don't see a

reason not to have those two glasses of red wine.

There might be no negative effect at all in SIBO of the lower 1/2 to

3/4 of the small intestine, where it's most likely to be, or the

bowel where the leaky gut is most likely to be, because the alcohol

won't get that far down the tract. How much it irritates if any

depends on how badly the lining is already irritated.

QUOTE: " The amount of alcohol in the blood reaches its highest level

about 60 minutes after drinking. However, food in the stomach may

increase the amount of time it takes for the blood alcohol to reach

its highest level. "

http://www.webmd.com/hw/lab_tests/aa81725.asp

Duncan

> >

> > Hi Duncan

> >

> > So can any of the other bacteria in the body use alcohol as food?

> >

> > Keen

> > A few organisms that produce the necessary enzyme ethanol oxidase

> > may convert alcohol to acetic acid, which is actually

beneficial;

> > most others use another enzyme, alcohol dehydrogenase, and

produce

> > acetaldehyde, an irritant and bowel/rectal carcinogen. (In vitro

> > acetaldehyde formation by human colonic bacteria. PMID: 7959236)

> >

> > Duncan

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sure low sugar is better, but a dry red wine is better for him than

whiskey.

Duncan

> > >

> > > Hi Duncan

> > >

> > > So can any of the other bacteria in the body use alcohol as

food?

> > >

> > > Keen

> > > A few organisms that produce the necessary enzyme ethanol

oxidase

> > > may convert alcohol to acetic acid, which is actually

> beneficial;

> > > most others use another enzyme, alcohol dehydrogenase, and

> produce

> > > acetaldehyde, an irritant and bowel/rectal carcinogen. (In

vitro

> > > acetaldehyde formation by human colonic bacteria. PMID: 7959236)

> > >

> > > Duncan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Why would that be - because it is less corrosive?

Thanks

Keen

Re: Candida myth busted: alcohol-using candida

Sure low sugar is better, but a dry red wine is better for him than

whiskey.

Duncan

> > >

> > > Hi Duncan

> > >

> > > So can any of the other bacteria in the body use alcohol as

food?

> > >

> > > Keen

> > > A few organisms that produce the necessary enzyme ethanol

oxidase

> > > may convert alcohol to acetic acid, which is actually

> beneficial;

> > > most others use another enzyme, alcohol dehydrogenase, and

> produce

> > > acetaldehyde, an irritant and bowel/rectal carcinogen. (In

vitro

> > > acetaldehyde formation by human colonic bacteria. PMID: 7959236)

> > >

> > > Duncan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Red wine is full of resveratrol and other antioxidants.

Duncan

> > > >

> > > > Hi Duncan

> > > >

> > > > So can any of the other bacteria in the body use alcohol as

> food?

> > > >

> > > > Keen

> > > > A few organisms that produce the necessary enzyme ethanol

> oxidase

> > > > may convert alcohol to acetic acid, which is actually

> > beneficial;

> > > > most others use another enzyme, alcohol dehydrogenase, and

> > produce

> > > > acetaldehyde, an irritant and bowel/rectal carcinogen. (In

> vitro

> > > > acetaldehyde formation by human colonic bacteria. PMID:

7959236)

> > > >

> > > > Duncan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

How bad is light beer as compared to wine or whiskey? A miller light

has 3 carbs per can but something like 90 calories..?

greg

> The potential for alcohol to materially increase bacterial count

> before it absorbs into your system is fairly low; I don't see a

> reason not to have those two glasses of red wine.

>

> There might be no negative effect at all in SIBO of the lower 1/2 to

> 3/4 of the small intestine, where it's most likely to be, or the

> bowel where the leaky gut is most likely to be, because the alcohol

> won't get that far down the tract. How much it irritates if any

> depends on how badly the lining is already irritated.

>

> QUOTE: " The amount of alcohol in the blood reaches its highest level

> about 60 minutes after drinking. However, food in the stomach may

> increase the amount of time it takes for the blood alcohol to reach

> its highest level. "

> http://www.webmd.com/hw/lab_tests/aa81725.asp

>

> Duncan

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi Duncan

> > >

> > > So can any of the other bacteria in the body use alcohol as food?

> > >

> > > Keen

> > > A few organisms that produce the necessary enzyme ethanol oxidase

> > > may convert alcohol to acetic acid, which is actually

> beneficial;

> > > most others use another enzyme, alcohol dehydrogenase, and

> produce

> > > acetaldehyde, an irritant and bowel/rectal carcinogen. (In vitro

> > > acetaldehyde formation by human colonic bacteria. PMID: 7959236)

> > >

> > > Duncan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The carbonation may irritate if you have SIBO, but it probably won't

harm your program much.

Duncan

> > > >

> > > > Hi Duncan

> > > >

> > > > So can any of the other bacteria in the body use alcohol as

food?

> > > >

> > > > Keen

> > > > A few organisms that produce the necessary enzyme ethanol

oxidase

> > > > may convert alcohol to acetic acid, which is actually

> > beneficial;

> > > > most others use another enzyme, alcohol dehydrogenase, and

> > produce

> > > > acetaldehyde, an irritant and bowel/rectal carcinogen. (In

vitro

> > > > acetaldehyde formation by human colonic bacteria. PMID:

7959236)

> > > >

> > > > Duncan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Duncan

Have you heard of anyone having a lot of weight loss with die off and if so

I am on a plateau after loosing 20 pounds In about a month? If so how can

you get off of this plateau? Anything helps.thx

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Duncan Crow

Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 11:16 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Candida myth busted: alcohol-using candida

The carbonation may irritate if you have SIBO, but it probably won't

harm your program much.

Duncan

> > > >

> > > > Hi Duncan

> > > >

> > > > So can any of the other bacteria in the body use alcohol as

food?

> > > >

> > > > Keen

> > > > A few organisms that produce the necessary enzyme ethanol

oxidase

> > > > may convert alcohol to acetic acid, which is actually

> > beneficial;

> > > > most others use another enzyme, alcohol dehydrogenase, and

> > produce

> > > > acetaldehyde, an irritant and bowel/rectal carcinogen. (In

vitro

> > > > acetaldehyde formation by human colonic bacteria. PMID:

7959236)

> > > >

> > > > Duncan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Tena, many people respond to toxin load by retaining fat and water,

and the good, or at least improved, diet associated with your candida

die-off should eventually get you to an ideal body mass index.

That being said, if you want to continue losing weight or do it more

quickly or in a more healthy way, use undenatured whey and selenium,

which stimulates metabolism to put lean tissue on and burn more fat.

The glutathione produced will also help you detoxify and thus lose

more water weight. Using inulin helps reduce toxin production in the

bowel and because it also helps normalize glucose levels it is a

metabolic enhancer too.

The low-carb diet and ample water and minerals with that should be

pretty obvious.

Duncan

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Duncan

> > > > >

> > > > > So can any of the other bacteria in the body use alcohol as

> food?

> > > > >

> > > > > Keen

> > > > > A few organisms that produce the necessary enzyme ethanol

> oxidase

> > > > > may convert alcohol to acetic acid, which is actually

> > > beneficial;

> > > > > most others use another enzyme, alcohol dehydrogenase, and

> > > produce

> > > > > acetaldehyde, an irritant and bowel/rectal carcinogen. (In

> vitro

> > > > > acetaldehyde formation by human colonic bacteria. PMID:

> 7959236)

> > > > >

> > > > > Duncan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Tena, I forgot to mention specifically two big factors in weight loss

besides exercise; potassium supplements reduce water weight (edema)

and cod-liver oil's EPA and DHA normalizes cell membranes so is a

metabolic increaser. Further the omega-3's reduce inflammation, which

could easily amount to a few pounds in a lot of people. Here's a

great omega-3 to add to the cod-liver-oil that reduces inflammation

even better:

http://www.aor.ca/related_research/lyprinol.php

Duncan

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Duncan

> > > > >

> > > > > So can any of the other bacteria in the body use alcohol as

> food?

> > > > >

> > > > > Keen

> > > > > A few organisms that produce the necessary enzyme ethanol

> oxidase

> > > > > may convert alcohol to acetic acid, which is actually

> > > beneficial;

> > > > > most others use another enzyme, alcohol dehydrogenase, and

> > > produce

> > > > > acetaldehyde, an irritant and bowel/rectal carcinogen. (In

> vitro

> > > > > acetaldehyde formation by human colonic bacteria. PMID:

> 7959236)

> > > > >

> > > > > Duncan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

== potassium supplements reduce water weight (edema)

and cod-liver oil's EPA and DHA normalizes cell membranes so is a

metabolic increaser. Further the omega-3's reduce inflammation, which

could easily amount to a few pounds in a lot of people. Here's a

great omega-3 to add to the cod-liver-oil that reduces inflammation

even better:

Hi Duncan,

Do you recommend potassium supplements to reduce water weight during

premenstruation? I get extremely bloated then, double the amount of bloating

that I get on a regular basis due to Candida.

Sacha

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Now I am concerned. I've lost 25 lbs on the Candida diet and am down

to practically skin & bones. I didn't need to lose any weight though

5 or 10 lbs would have been ok.

I'm expecting my undenatured way & inulin to come tomorrow. Is this

going to make me lose more weight? I cannot afford to lose anymore.

I'd like to know what I can do to gain at least 8-10 lbs back!

Gail

>

> Tena, many people respond to toxin load by retaining fat and water,

> and the good, or at least improved, diet associated with your

candida

> die-off should eventually get you to an ideal body mass index.

>

> That being said, if you want to continue losing weight or do it

more

> quickly or in a more healthy way, use undenatured whey and

selenium,

> which stimulates metabolism to put lean tissue on and burn more

fat.

> The glutathione produced will also help you detoxify and thus lose

> more water weight. Using inulin helps reduce toxin production in

the

> bowel and because it also helps normalize glucose levels it is a

> metabolic enhancer too.

>

> The low-carb diet and ample water and minerals with that should be

> pretty obvious.

>

> Duncan

>

[Guest guest]

What were you using for treatment besides the diet?

--- Gail <gmgblues@...> wrote:

> Now I am concerned. I've lost 25 lbs on the Candida

> diet and am down

> to practically skin & bones. I didn't need to lose

> any weight though

> 5 or 10 lbs would have been ok.

>

> I'm expecting my undenatured way & inulin to come

> tomorrow. Is this

> going to make me lose more weight? I cannot afford

> to lose anymore.

>

> I'd like to know what I can do to gain at least 8-10

> lbs back!

>

> Gail

>

>

> >

> > Tena, many people respond to toxin load by

> retaining fat and water,

> > and the good, or at least improved, diet

> associated with your

> candida

> > die-off should eventually get you to an ideal body

> mass index.

> >

> > That being said, if you want to continue losing

> weight or do it

> more

> > quickly or in a more healthy way, use undenatured

> whey and

> selenium,

> > which stimulates metabolism to put lean tissue on

> and burn more

> fat.

> > The glutathione produced will also help you

> detoxify and thus lose

> > more water weight. Using inulin helps reduce toxin

> production in

> the

> > bowel and because it also helps normalize glucose

> levels it is a

> > metabolic enhancer too.

> >

> > The low-carb diet and ample water and minerals

> with that should be

> > pretty obvious.

> >

> > Duncan

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just the diet!

Gail

>

> > Now I am concerned. I've lost 25 lbs on the Candida

> > diet and am down

> > to practically skin & bones. I didn't need to lose

> > any weight though

> > 5 or 10 lbs would have been ok.

> >

> > I'm expecting my undenatured way & inulin to come

> > tomorrow. Is this

> > going to make me lose more weight? I cannot afford

> > to lose anymore.

> >

> > I'd like to know what I can do to gain at least 8-10

> > lbs back!

> >

> > Gail

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you so very much for all your amazing info, Duncan!!!! I was

on the candida low carb diet for 3 months without losing any weight

and being very constipated and since starting the undenatured whey at

the beginning of Nov. and the selenium a week ago I've lost 10 lbs.

Since starting the selenium last week, I haven't been constipated at

all!!!! and my diet hasn't been perfect this past week, either.

WOW! I wish I had started this from the beginning!!!! I feel

wonderful, too!!!! Thanks again!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Duncan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So can any of the other bacteria in the body use alcohol

as

> > food?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Keen

> > > > > > A few organisms that produce the necessary enzyme ethanol

> > oxidase

> > > > > > may convert alcohol to acetic acid, which is actually

> > > > beneficial;

> > > > > > most others use another enzyme, alcohol dehydrogenase,

and

> > > > produce

> > > > > > acetaldehyde, an irritant and bowel/rectal carcinogen.

(In

> > vitro

> > > > > > acetaldehyde formation by human colonic bacteria. PMID:

> > 7959236)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Duncan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Gail, as you have seen, when you are emaciated under the fat, i.e.

small muscled, when the body loses the fat, you look pretty thin.

An attribute of undenatured whey, which is listed the Physicians Desk

Reference for the purpose, is that it increases mainly lean tissue,

not fat. This means it increases not only muscle mass and tone but

also organ mass and function.

Body builders use up to about 160 grams of undenatured whey daily in

staggered doses to bulk up; they do not get fat on it.

Duncan

>

> Now I am concerned. I've lost 25 lbs on the Candida diet and am

down

> to practically skin & bones. I didn't need to lose any weight

though

> 5 or 10 lbs would have been ok.

>

> I'm expecting my undenatured way & inulin to come tomorrow. Is

this

> going to make me lose more weight? I cannot afford to lose anymore.

>

> I'd like to know what I can do to gain at least 8-10 lbs back!

>

> Gail

[Guest guest]

Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you!

Gail

>

> Gail, as you have seen, when you are emaciated under the fat, i.e.

> small muscled, when the body loses the fat, you look pretty thin.

>

> An attribute of undenatured whey, which is listed the Physicians

Desk

> Reference for the purpose, is that it increases mainly lean tissue,

> not fat. This means it increases not only muscle mass and tone but

> also organ mass and function.

>

> Body builders use up to about 160 grams of undenatured whey daily

in

> staggered doses to bulk up; they do not get fat on it.

>

> Duncan

>

[Guest guest]

,

That's great!! Which undenatured whey are you using

and how

much a day? Where did you get it?

How much selenium?

Thanks,

--- <amandasunshowers@...> wrote:

> Thank you so very much for all your amazing info,

> Duncan!!!! I was

> on the candida low carb diet for 3 months without

> losing any weight

> and being very constipated and since starting the

> undenatured whey at

> the beginning of Nov. and the selenium a week ago

> I've lost 10 lbs.

> Since starting the selenium last week, I haven't

> been constipated at

> all!!!! and my diet hasn't been perfect this past

> week, either.

> WOW! I wish I had started this from the

> beginning!!!! I feel

> wonderful, too!!!! Thanks again!!!

>

>

>

>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Duncan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So can any of the other bacteria in the

> body use alcohol

> as

> > > food?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Keen

> > > > > > > A few organisms that produce the

> necessary enzyme ethanol

> > > oxidase

> > > > > > > may convert alcohol to acetic acid,

> which is actually

> > > > > beneficial;

>

=== message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

Duncan

Where can I get these products and I am taking fish oil right now and

vitamin breakfast bar sio is this normal to lose that much weight at first?

thanks

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Duncan Crow

Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:52 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Candida myth busted: alcohol-using candida

Tena, I forgot to mention specifically two big factors in weight loss

besides exercise; potassium supplements reduce water weight (edema)

and cod-liver oil's EPA and DHA normalizes cell membranes so is a

metabolic increaser. Further the omega-3's reduce inflammation, which

could easily amount to a few pounds in a lot of people. Here's a

great omega-3 to add to the cod-liver-oil that reduces inflammation

even better:

http://www.aor. <http://www.aor.ca/related_research/lyprinol.php>

ca/related_research/lyprinol.php

Duncan

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Duncan

> > > > >

> > > > > So can any of the other bacteria in the body use alcohol as

> food?

> > > > >

> > > > > Keen

> > > > > A few organisms that produce the necessary enzyme ethanol

> oxidase

> > > > > may convert alcohol to acetic acid, which is actually

> > > beneficial;

> > > > > most others use another enzyme, alcohol dehydrogenase, and

> > > produce

> > > > > acetaldehyde, an irritant and bowel/rectal carcinogen. (In

> vitro

> > > > > acetaldehyde formation by human colonic bacteria. PMID:

> 7959236)

> > > > >

> > > > > Duncan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

,

I got the natural flavor whey that listed all the ingredients that

Duncan listed as important at Vitamin World on sale for 13.99. I also

would love chocolate but the flavored ones didn't list the ingredients

that I wanted so.. I eat it like a cereal with added cocnut milk and

flax seeds and 3-4 frozen blueberries. It seems to be working for me.

I take 200-400mg. of selenium a day. I really want to get some inulin,

too.--

>

> ,

>

> That's great!! Which undenatured whey are you using

> and how

> much a day? Where did you get it?

> How much selenium?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I recommend a look at potassium intake with the view that most people

are deficient. Balance is important whether one menstruates or not.

On the face of it I think yes you would probably benefit from

potassium supps, bearing in mind that a LITTLE PMS bloating is

appropriate and extreme bloating is not.

Duncan

>

> == potassium supplements reduce water weight (edema)

> and cod-liver oil's EPA and DHA normalizes cell membranes so is a

> metabolic increaser. Further the omega-3's reduce inflammation,

which

> could easily amount to a few pounds in a lot of people. Here's a

> great omega-3 to add to the cod-liver-oil that reduces inflammation

> even better:

>

> Hi Duncan,

> Do you recommend potassium supplements to reduce water weight

during premenstruation? I get extremely bloated then, double the

amount of bloating that I get on a regular basis due to Candida.

>

> Sacha

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

You're welcome for the info .

You're fortunate to have found this candida group; unlike this or

nearly every other health group you could have joined, a certain myth-

oriented candida group discourages selenium supplementation,

undenatured whey, potassium, inulin, all of which can be profoundly

helpful and a health regimen can be much less effective without them.

The nip of alcohol we've found we can have is just a bonus.

That being said I wouldn't have expected the undenatured whey would be

instrumental in bowel regularity. Thanks for posting your observation.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

I think it's important to make the distinction of 200-400 MCG of

selenium, not mg, which of course is a fatal dose

The undenatured whey choice is important; the glutathione-precursor

components of whey are discussed on my site here so you can do the

math and compare them:

http://tinyurl.com/cuzcc

Some people make the distinction of using a non-hydrolyzed

undenatured whey like Jarrow because it will contain no MSG. Here's

the Jarrow link; it's $13 plus shipping for two pounds. Of course,

adding to the purchase makes shipping cost more effective.

http://tinyurl.com/yj8nop

Duncan

>

>

> ,

> I got the natural flavor whey that listed all the ingredients that

> Duncan listed as important at Vitamin World on sale for 13.99. I

also

> would love chocolate but the flavored ones didn't list the

ingredients

> that I wanted so.. I eat it like a cereal with added cocnut milk

and

> flax seeds and 3-4 frozen blueberries. It seems to be working for

me.

> I take 200-400mg. of selenium a day. I really want to get some

inulin,

> too.--

[Guest guest]

Duncan

Is there any whey bars you can get instead of the drink? Also how can you

tell when die off is done? And when the candida Is gone? How many types of

candida is there? And what types ?

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Duncan Crow

Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:55 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Candida myth busted: alcohol-using candida

I think it's important to make the distinction of 200-400 MCG of

selenium, not mg, which of course is a fatal dose

The undenatured whey choice is important; the glutathione-precursor

components of whey are discussed on my site here so you can do the

math and compare them:

http://tinyurl. <http://tinyurl.com/cuzcc> com/cuzcc

Some people make the distinction of using a non-hydrolyzed

undenatured whey like Jarrow because it will contain no MSG. Here's

the Jarrow link; it's $13 plus shipping for two pounds. Of course,

adding to the purchase makes shipping cost more effective.

http://tinyurl. <http://tinyurl.com/yj8nop> com/yj8nop

Duncan

>

>

> ,

> I got the natural flavor whey that listed all the ingredients that

> Duncan listed as important at Vitamin World on sale for 13.99. I

also

> would love chocolate but the flavored ones didn't list the

ingredients

> that I wanted so.. I eat it like a cereal with added cocnut milk

and

> flax seeds and 3-4 frozen blueberries. It seems to be working for

me.

> I take 200-400mg. of selenium a day. I really want to get some

inulin,

> too.--

[Guest guest]

For interest sake, my husband had his company Christmas function over

the weekend and had 3 very small whiskeys with water (between 7pm and

2am). He had no problems with his candida.

So thanks for that, Duncan. (He didn't have red wine as he can't stand

it.)

Keen

Re: Candida myth busted: alcohol-using candida

You're welcome for the info .

You're fortunate to have found this candida group; unlike this or

nearly every other health group you could have joined, a certain myth-

oriented candida group discourages selenium supplementation,

undenatured whey, potassium, inulin, all of which can be profoundly

helpful and a health regimen can be much less effective without them.

The nip of alcohol we've found we can have is just a bonus.

That being said I wouldn't have expected the undenatured whey would be

instrumental in bowel regularity. Thanks for posting your observation.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

I don't know anything about whey bars, but I do know that you can use

the whey to make pudding instead of a drink; just use less water and

add psyllium to gel it.

Duncan

> >

> >

> > ,

> > I got the natural flavor whey that listed all the ingredients

that

> > Duncan listed as important at Vitamin World on sale for 13.99. I

> also

> > would love chocolate but the flavored ones didn't list the

> ingredients

> > that I wanted so.. I eat it like a cereal with added cocnut milk

> and

> > flax seeds and 3-4 frozen blueberries. It seems to be working for

> me.

> > I take 200-400mg. of selenium a day. I really want to get some

> inulin,

> > too.--

>

>

>

>

>

>