Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Especially stupid when Omega 3s are known anti-inflammatories. Why go and re-invent the wheel! Drug trial > Hi all, > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4808836.stm > > I am sure those of you who are in the UK have heard about this in the > News today. > I was listening to an interview that had been done with the girlfriend > of one of the men that is critically ill. She said that her boyfriend's > kidneys and liver have collapsed and they have cleaned and recycled his > blood 3 times already. > What can say? > Just another example of how young people, usually, with very little > money, are exploited and then take part in these dangerours kind of > trials. > Let's hope it serves as a serious wake up call to many people who still > believe that you can " fix " the body with drugs like that. > Ingrid > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 For the same reason they're re-inventing Crestor? Moneeeey....... At least the two placebo guys were okay! How's Wales? Sue > > > Especially stupid when Omega 3s are known anti-inflammatories. Why go and > re-invent the wheel! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Could this be the drug, ? Reminyl (galantamine This drug for alzheimer's had an alert back in 2005. _MedWatch - 2005 Safety Information Alerts_ (http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/SAFETY/2005/safety05.htm#Reminyl) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 I think there is also an Alzheimers drug that has recently caused alleged deaths in a clinical trial. I am interested to know more about that one. If anyone has a link to that information I would like to see it. Feel free to email me at pasty if you don't want to post it. I gave serious consideration to having mother with a trial on one of the meds. I kept seeing part of the information on the crawler on one of the news stations last night but each time it came on, there was a cut to a commercial or some such break and I never did see the whole story. If I am correct, I think it's one of the dtugs already on the market. I am looking it up but have yet to find it. Hope these ppl will have a full recovery. I read the part about where one of the young med took the study to earn money to pay bills. What an awful outcome he and his girlfriend have suffered! GA > The doctor in charge of treating six men who took part in a disastrous > drugs trial said he has no idea what triggered the " unique " reaction that > left them seriously ill. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 I'm just reading about this and it sounds horrible. It wasn't a drug for alzheimer's, but an anti-inflammatory for arthritis and MS. Here is the link from MSNBC posted 3 hours ago. _New scrutiny after clinical trial goes wrong - Health Care - MSNBC.com_ (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11881706/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 <<<Partner with PAREXEL and discover how world-class outsourcing can lead to positive Partner >>> <NOBR>Parexel is the American company that did the clinical trials in the UK. The above snip-it caught my eye. Hope none of us have stock in this co Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Not positive, but I think it was name brand Aricept. I had hoped someone else had seen the trailer at the bottom of the screen because it was the only one I saw and just a glimpse of it. I hope it isn't the one, cause I have known a few ppl who were really helped by it so I hope I saw it wrong on the tv. Later: Actually I just talked to Bill about it and he said it was Aricept. I guess it's another Vioxx type situation only with Aricept, the person with the disease can't usually make decisions about whether they want to take it. : ( hugs and thanks for your reply GA Susa Grannyof9@...> > Could this be the drug, ? Reminyl (galantamine This drug for > alzheimer's had an alert back in 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 I happened to be at our friends house in Calgary when the news came on and they were reporting this disaster. My first question was, " Did they even test it on animals? " It looks like someone was really asleep at the wheel on this test. +Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Yeah I read on some site or other that the tragedies didn't happen in a new testing. It had been tested on ppl previously but not with the same bad results, from what I read. I would forward it to the group, but I am not sure where I read it. I will try to find the press release, which I think I read on AOL, and post it to the group. It is truly a tragedy. But my question is: if this is really an isolated incident or is it just one that the press got ahold to? You know that so many things are tried in the press and not in court as well as making mountains out of mole hills, done regularly byt the press. They have to have a sensation somewhere in order to make a name for themselves and their company. (We know there have been literary prizes awarded in the past to ppl who finalged the facts and came up with a sensational story.). I can name a few dozen examples of this off the top of my head but it might not be as interesting to ppl here as it is to me. I took Jounralism in high school and one of the first things I learned was techniques used to dupe the ppl. Our press is a master at it though I am by no means saying this isn't a tragedy, just that it may happen all the time, but we just don't know about it. I hope if this is going on at a great rate thatit will be made known to the public. Sort of sounds like something out of a sci fi thriller to be honest widja. hugs to all GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 From what I read in the papers this morning they had tested it on animals first. What I want to know is why they gave the drug to so many at the same time. Surely it would have been safer to have injected one person then wait to see if there was any reaction before giving it to anyone else. I also think that the young men were only thinking of the financial rewards, not the possible dangers, but that's just my opinion. My eldest when he was short of cash said he was thinking of 'volunteering'. Bank of Mom bailed him out needless to say. On the other hand would anyone put themselves forward for a phase one trial with no reward. The newspaper said phase one was only to test the toxicity of the drug. One things for sure, they need to look at their protocols for testing. Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Angie wrote: >From what I read in the papers this morning they had tested it on animals first. What I want to know is why they gave the drug to so many at the same time. Hi Angie I have thoughts on this and thank God that they did not do a much bigger test group than they did. Yet I wonder what went wrong and where. Did somebody fudge the numbers on the animal testing or are we seeing the emergence of something in animals that protects them against some drugs? We have seen such twiddling of numbers and reports from scientists to many times in the last few years. As for our shared health problems, I do believe that the answer and the cure, lies in our own bodies but we do not attract the research dollars other diseases do. We really have to find ways to get the message out. Blessings to all +Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 The original article was posted in what Rick sends to us in the Current News items. That is where I read about it last week. There had been prior trials done and there had been no bad effects. It was a shock to the researchers as it was to the rest of us. I don't know if I can repost the information but it is in the items Rick posted on the Mrch 16 list. That is where I read it. The addy is http://www.boston.com/yourlife/health/diseases/articles/2006/03/15/drug_trials_h\ ospitalize_six_in_britain GA Re: Drug trial > Angie wrote: > >>From what I read in the papers this morning they had tested it on animals >>first. What I want to know is why they gave the drug to so many at the >>same time. > > Hi Angie > > I have thoughts on this and thank God that they did not do a much bigger > test group than they did. Yet I wonder what went wrong and where. Did > somebody fudge the numbers on the animal testing or are we seeing the > emergence of something in animals that protects them against some drugs? > We have seen such twiddling of numbers and reports from scientists to many > times in the last few years. > > As for our shared health problems, I do believe that the answer and the > cure, lies in our own bodies but we do not attract the research dollars > other diseases do. We really have to find ways to get the message out. > > Blessings to all > > +Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 There is a trial recruiting in my area...Peg. Inteferon & Ribavirin with Fluvastatin in treatment-naive type 2 & 3 . So, Don, what do you know about this? And , Gloria, would you reccomend taking part in trial ? I have insurance, but this would negate all those co- pays & shares that insurance won't cover. Just wondering... And wanting y'alls opinions.... http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 " " A well- behaved woman never made history " http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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