Stressed

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Interestingly, what calmed me down tonight was sewing. I got a jacket

for Christmas about three years ago and whenever I go to a state or

national park or to a museum, I buy a patch and sew it on. (Most of

them are iron on patches, but some are not) so I sewed them ALL on.

When I started, I could only do a patch in an hour and a half. Now I

am down to a patch every 30 minutes, and some of that time is spent

measuring and pinning.

What got me started tonight was that I had to sew a button on one of my

shirts and I decided to do two patches.

I was listening first to Raven's (Family Forum moderator's CD) and then

the soundtrack from Gladiator. It made for nice relaxing evening.

This may sound weird but guys ought to consider taking up sewing as a

hobby.

Tom

It depends on the kind of stress. Most of the time the stress causes me

to get edgy so the best ting to do is to get up and do something. That

can be working out, cleaning or something like that. Other times I'll

just try to have a nap, which doesn't always work since the nerves will

make me have to get up. Indeed trying to nap will sometimes actually

make things worse, probably because the energy won't burn off.

[Guest guest]

I find any handicraft stuff very relaxing.

Sewing by hand works for me too, but NOT on a machine since my cheap

mail-order sewing machine usually entangles the thread so I have to take it

out and start over again. And again. And again...

(Me sewing: " @£ & %$#!!!! " )

By the time I'm done I'm often a lot more stressed out than when I started.

Well, now I've misplaced the foot-pedal anyway. :-)

Inger

Re: Stressed

Interestingly, what calmed me down tonight was sewing. I got a jacket

for Christmas about three years ago and whenever I go to a state or

national park or to a museum, I buy a patch and sew it on. (Most of

them are iron on patches, but some are not) so I sewed them ALL on.

When I started, I could only do a patch in an hour and a half. Now I

am down to a patch every 30 minutes, and some of that time is spent

measuring and pinning.

What got me started tonight was that I had to sew a button on one of my

shirts and I decided to do two patches.

I was listening first to Raven's (Family Forum moderator's CD) and then

the soundtrack from Gladiator. It made for nice relaxing evening.

This may sound weird but guys ought to consider taking up sewing as a

hobby.

Tom

It depends on the kind of stress. Most of the time the stress causes me

to get edgy so the best ting to do is to get up and do something. That

can be working out, cleaning or something like that. Other times I'll

just try to have a nap, which doesn't always work since the nerves will

make me have to get up. Indeed trying to nap will sometimes actually

make things worse, probably because the energy won't burn off.

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I find any handicraft stuff very relaxing.

Sewing by hand works for me too, but NOT on a machine since my cheap

mail-order sewing machine usually entangles the thread so I have to take it

out and start over again. And again. And again...

(Me sewing: " @£ & %$#!!!! " )

By the time I'm done I'm often a lot more stressed out than when I started.

Well, now I've misplaced the foot-pedal anyway. :-)

Inger

Re: Stressed

Interestingly, what calmed me down tonight was sewing. I got a jacket

for Christmas about three years ago and whenever I go to a state or

national park or to a museum, I buy a patch and sew it on. (Most of

them are iron on patches, but some are not) so I sewed them ALL on.

When I started, I could only do a patch in an hour and a half. Now I

am down to a patch every 30 minutes, and some of that time is spent

measuring and pinning.

What got me started tonight was that I had to sew a button on one of my

shirts and I decided to do two patches.

I was listening first to Raven's (Family Forum moderator's CD) and then

the soundtrack from Gladiator. It made for nice relaxing evening.

This may sound weird but guys ought to consider taking up sewing as a

hobby.

Tom

It depends on the kind of stress. Most of the time the stress causes me

to get edgy so the best ting to do is to get up and do something. That

can be working out, cleaning or something like that. Other times I'll

just try to have a nap, which doesn't always work since the nerves will

make me have to get up. Indeed trying to nap will sometimes actually

make things worse, probably because the energy won't burn off.

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acceptance. Everyone is valued.

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I find if Im stressed, I get a dunkin donuts Mocha Late, Playing loud punk music on the way there and back, then when Im home I sit down and knit or crochet. Usually Knitting or crocheting really mellows me out. Sometimes my sons game boy works, also. While my mom was dieing, I sat in her hospital room catching pokemon, I couldn't watch TV, I felt it would be disrespectful, and I couldn't concentrate enough to do any needlework, so I brought my son's gameboy along, and muted it, it was a great escape and distracting me, so I wasn't sitting there counting every breath. Sewing helps also, I do needlepoint and crewel work, but silly me I can't sew on a button, they fall off, but sewing cloth is no problem for me. I've made most of Jerry's halloween costumes.

BethInger Lorelei <inglori@...> wrote:

I find any handicraft stuff very relaxing.Sewing by hand works for me too, but NOT on a machine since my cheap mail-order sewing machine usually entangles the thread so I have to take it out and start over again. And again. And again...(Me sewing: "@£ & %$#!!!!")By the time I'm done I'm often a lot more stressed out than when I started.Well, now I've misplaced the foot-pedal anyway. :-)Inger Re: StressedInterestingly, what calmed me down tonight was sewing. I got a jacketfor Christmas about three years ago and whenever I go to a state ornational park or to a museum, I buy a

patch and sew it on. (Most ofthem are iron on patches, but some are not) so I sewed them ALL on.When I started, I could only do a patch in an hour and a half. Now Iam down to a patch every 30 minutes, and some of that time is spentmeasuring and pinning.What got me started tonight was that I had to sew a button on one of myshirts and I decided to do two patches.I was listening first to Raven's (Family Forum moderator's CD) and thenthe soundtrack from Gladiator. It made for nice relaxing evening.This may sound weird but guys ought to consider taking up sewing as ahobby.TomIt depends on the kind of stress. Most of the time the stress causes meto get edgy so the best ting to do is to get up and do something. Thatcan be working out, cleaning or something like that. Other times I'lljust try to have a nap, which doesn't always work since

the nerves willmake me have to get up. Indeed trying to nap will sometimes actuallymake things worse, probably because the energy won't burn off.FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked "Other FAM Sites."

[Guest guest]

I find if Im stressed, I get a dunkin donuts Mocha Late, Playing loud punk music on the way there and back, then when Im home I sit down and knit or crochet. Usually Knitting or crocheting really mellows me out. Sometimes my sons game boy works, also. While my mom was dieing, I sat in her hospital room catching pokemon, I couldn't watch TV, I felt it would be disrespectful, and I couldn't concentrate enough to do any needlework, so I brought my son's gameboy along, and muted it, it was a great escape and distracting me, so I wasn't sitting there counting every breath. Sewing helps also, I do needlepoint and crewel work, but silly me I can't sew on a button, they fall off, but sewing cloth is no problem for me. I've made most of Jerry's halloween costumes.

BethInger Lorelei <inglori@...> wrote:

I find any handicraft stuff very relaxing.Sewing by hand works for me too, but NOT on a machine since my cheap mail-order sewing machine usually entangles the thread so I have to take it out and start over again. And again. And again...(Me sewing: "@£ & %$#!!!!")By the time I'm done I'm often a lot more stressed out than when I started.Well, now I've misplaced the foot-pedal anyway. :-)Inger Re: StressedInterestingly, what calmed me down tonight was sewing. I got a jacketfor Christmas about three years ago and whenever I go to a state ornational park or to a museum, I buy a

patch and sew it on. (Most ofthem are iron on patches, but some are not) so I sewed them ALL on.When I started, I could only do a patch in an hour and a half. Now Iam down to a patch every 30 minutes, and some of that time is spentmeasuring and pinning.What got me started tonight was that I had to sew a button on one of myshirts and I decided to do two patches.I was listening first to Raven's (Family Forum moderator's CD) and thenthe soundtrack from Gladiator. It made for nice relaxing evening.This may sound weird but guys ought to consider taking up sewing as ahobby.TomIt depends on the kind of stress. Most of the time the stress causes meto get edgy so the best ting to do is to get up and do something. Thatcan be working out, cleaning or something like that. Other times I'lljust try to have a nap, which doesn't always work since

the nerves willmake me have to get up. Indeed trying to nap will sometimes actuallymake things worse, probably because the energy won't burn off.FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked "Other FAM Sites."

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>Tom: "Life is never simple. I just want to make sure everyone is getting along alright is all. When I tune in it can sometimes be stressful if any of you are having trouble. I want to make this place a respite. And sometimes I feel I am not doing as good a job as I should. I will try harder going forward though."We encompass a world of differences/experiences/environments. What we share in common is like the tip of an iceberg, a very small, albeit significant, set of unique mindsets. In my short time here there has been an insignificant amount of 'trouble'. Most of those 'issues' have resolved themselves long before you//Inger intervened. That is just as it should be. Please feel less stressed about such difficulties on a day to day basis. We are (mostly) adults here, and consequently all have experienced differences of belief/opinion/behavior. I was under the assumption that this was a place to communicate and share these beliefs/opinions and discuss these differing behaviors. F.A.M. has been a respite for me from a life long struggle against ridiculous society. Again and again I find comfort in hearing my thoughts 'spoken' here by individuals literally from all over the world. Time and again, mouth agape, I find commonality here with all of you folks. That is the great thing you have created, Tom. I understand my role in the greater world more clearly, and that is indeed a relief and comfort. Again, I thank you Tom.  Rainbow

[Guest guest]

Tom: "This may sound weird but guys ought to consider taking up sewing as a hobby."Are you up to doing some alterations? Most of my clothes need to be let out a bit.  Rainbow

[Guest guest]

Tom: "This may sound weird but guys ought to consider taking up sewing as a hobby."Are you up to doing some alterations? Most of my clothes need to be let out a bit.  Rainbow

[Guest guest]

Tom,

Its actually looking like Katrina is headed for New Orleans, which is well west of my place. However, my place is still in the strike probability cone. So, they won't be out of the crosshairs until the Katrina has made its way inland.

[Guest guest]

,

Keep us posted.

Tom

Just thought of something else.

It looked like Hurricane Katrina was going to go east of my place in

Alabama but now it is looking to track right over it. This could be

nasty since Katrina may be a category 4 by the time it comes ashore.

That will make it a lot like Ivan. Hopefully it will track more to the

west over the next few days and spare us the third big hurricane in one

year's time.

[Guest guest]

,

Keep us posted.

Tom

Just thought of something else.

It looked like Hurricane Katrina was going to go east of my place in

Alabama but now it is looking to track right over it. This could be

nasty since Katrina may be a category 4 by the time it comes ashore.

That will make it a lot like Ivan. Hopefully it will track more to the

west over the next few days and spare us the third big hurricane in one

year's time.

[Guest guest]

Next time that happens, let me know and I will give you an internet

kiss, my love.

Tom

I find any handicraft stuff very relaxing.

Sewing by hand works for me too, but NOT on a machine since my cheap

mail-order sewing machine usually entangles the thread so I have to

take it

out and start over again. And again. And again...

(Me sewing: " @£ & %$#!!!! " )

By the time I'm done I'm often a lot more stressed out than when I

started.

Well, now I've misplaced the foot-pedal anyway. :-)

Inger

[Guest guest]

Next time that happens, let me know and I will give you an internet

kiss, my love.

Tom

I find any handicraft stuff very relaxing.

Sewing by hand works for me too, but NOT on a machine since my cheap

mail-order sewing machine usually entangles the thread so I have to

take it

out and start over again. And again. And again...

(Me sewing: " @£ & %$#!!!! " )

By the time I'm done I'm often a lot more stressed out than when I

started.

Well, now I've misplaced the foot-pedal anyway. :-)

Inger

[Guest guest]

Thanks, dear. I'll keep that in mind.

Inger

Re: Stressed

Next time that happens, let me know and I will give you an internet

kiss, my love.

Tom

I find any handicraft stuff very relaxing.

Sewing by hand works for me too, but NOT on a machine since my cheap

mail-order sewing machine usually entangles the thread so I have to

take it

out and start over again. And again. And again...

(Me sewing: " @£ & %$#!!!! " )

By the time I'm done I'm often a lot more stressed out than when I

started.

Well, now I've misplaced the foot-pedal anyway. :-)

Inger

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and

acceptance. Everyone is valued.

Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the

folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

[Guest guest]

Wow, I am surprised. I never heard of a doctor that would not give a second

opinion. I have always gotten a second opinion on everything when it comes to

surgery.

Hugs & Prayers Babs

[Guest guest]

Wow, I am surprised. I never heard of a doctor that would not give a second

opinion. I have always gotten a second opinion on everything when it comes to

surgery.

Hugs & Prayers Babs

[Guest guest]

hi jeannie,

i can definitely empathize. it seems that these kinds of problems isolate us,

and make us think of little else. easy to get badly wrapped up in our own

world.

since you obviously write well, have you considered a journal? might help you

with some thoughts, but could also help others who go through similar issues

when the time comes.

a thought.

carol

stressed

Hi all,

I went to my other ortho dr. today, I feel like I'm a hypochondriac-I have a

Family dr.,a Pain dr., a neurologist, and 2 ortho drs! Well. one only does hips

and knees, the other does shoulders and necks, oh- I forgot I also have a

surgeon who did my back and neck! Now I'm seriously bummed. My neck fusion

helped my shoulder some, I guess with the nerves, and I realize we're not a

shoulder group, but the two have an impact on each other. I'll be having a

shoulder arthroscopy next month, I have bone chips and cartiledge that needs

repair, and possibly might have a tear in my rotator cuff, they won't know till

they go in. it's supposed to be a day surgery, but I'll be in a sling for 2

months, and not supposed to have it lifted up except by a PT. So, more stress on

my poor husband, more guilt on me, we're both hoping this is the last of my

surgeries. My back pain originated inmy sacroiliac joints, the lumbar fusion

helped some, but still have to be on opiates, and now that

pain has worsened. It's been hard being a disabled housewife, but at I could

have little outings. Now I won't be able to drive and will be almost completely

dependent onmy husband for a couple months. I'm lonely and full of anxiety. My

insurance pays for 5 free counseling visits, so I'm going to start that again

and hope i can get .appts. before my surgery. I've never been good at

entertaining myself. I miss the work atmosphere. I feel like I'm just existing,

and not contributing anything. I know I'm not the only one in the group who has

these feelings, but they've been especially strong lately. Thanks you for

letting me vent

Jeannie

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[Guest guest]

hi jeannie,

i can definitely empathize. it seems that these kinds of problems isolate us,

and make us think of little else. easy to get badly wrapped up in our own

world.

since you obviously write well, have you considered a journal? might help you

with some thoughts, but could also help others who go through similar issues

when the time comes.

a thought.

carol

stressed

Hi all,

I went to my other ortho dr. today, I feel like I'm a hypochondriac-I have a

Family dr.,a Pain dr., a neurologist, and 2 ortho drs! Well. one only does hips

and knees, the other does shoulders and necks, oh- I forgot I also have a

surgeon who did my back and neck! Now I'm seriously bummed. My neck fusion

helped my shoulder some, I guess with the nerves, and I realize we're not a

shoulder group, but the two have an impact on each other. I'll be having a

shoulder arthroscopy next month, I have bone chips and cartiledge that needs

repair, and possibly might have a tear in my rotator cuff, they won't know till

they go in. it's supposed to be a day surgery, but I'll be in a sling for 2

months, and not supposed to have it lifted up except by a PT. So, more stress on

my poor husband, more guilt on me, we're both hoping this is the last of my

surgeries. My back pain originated inmy sacroiliac joints, the lumbar fusion

helped some, but still have to be on opiates, and now that

pain has worsened. It's been hard being a disabled housewife, but at I could

have little outings. Now I won't be able to drive and will be almost completely

dependent onmy husband for a couple months. I'm lonely and full of anxiety. My

insurance pays for 5 free counseling visits, so I'm going to start that again

and hope i can get .appts. before my surgery. I've never been good at

entertaining myself. I miss the work atmosphere. I feel like I'm just existing,

and not contributing anything. I know I'm not the only one in the group who has

these feelings, but they've been especially strong lately. Thanks you for

letting me vent

Jeannie

Jeannie

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Jeannie,

I just remembered something else...

I have a friend that was injured years ago, a macho guy in the Air Force. He

tried painting to relieve his frustration, but decided another trick worked

better. When everybody was out the house, he'd scream as loud as he could for

as long as he could. Then, he felt a little relief. Kind of like stretching

exercises for the mind!

Worth a try...

Dee

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[Guest guest]

Jeannie,

I just remembered something else...

I have a friend that was injured years ago, a macho guy in the Air Force. He

tried painting to relieve his frustration, but decided another trick worked

better. When everybody was out the house, he'd scream as loud as he could for

as long as he could. Then, he felt a little relief. Kind of like stretching

exercises for the mind!

Worth a try...

Dee

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Hi Dee,

Well, that certainly is a novel idea on dealing with frustration! I'd have to

go to a park or somewhere as we live in an apt., but it's worth a try! Thanks

again

Jeannie

Green Darner <swampgirl55@...> wrote:

Jeannie,

I just remembered something else...

I have a friend that was injured years ago, a macho guy in the Air Force. He

tried painting to relieve his frustration, but decided another trick worked

better. When everybody was out the house, he'd scream as loud as he could for as

long as he could. Then, he felt a little relief. Kind of like stretching

exercises for the mind!

Worth a try...

Dee

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Hi Jeannie sorry it took me so long to write to you. Been having a

bad time lately with my back, not sure why but its been acting up

pretty bad. Even my upper back is hurting and I have no idea in the

world why that is, all I know is it hurts badly. Anyway I am sorry

its been so hard on you being laid up from your surgeries. I know

its tough not to be able to do the things you want to do. And then

you feel guilty making others do them for you. But I am sure your

husband is doing things for you because he cares and he wants to

help you even though it can be tough on both of you. I know when I

first got hurt and had to look at 4 walls all the time it almost

drove me batty. I was used to being busy all the time, spending

weekends at horse shows and just never in one place long. Well that

came to a screeching halt when my back and neck starting hurting at

the same time. But it is a hard shock to go thru I know. Hang in

there it will get easier as you find things you can still do that

won't cause you pain. Talking to someone is a good idea, I am sure

that will help you out. As for the journal idea thats great I did

one of those for a long time. But yes its very private and your hub

had no reason to even touch it. SOunds like you two need to sit down

and do some talking, hopefully that will help. Take care and just

take it one day at a time and it will be easier. hang in there,

Sharon Group Owner

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> Hi all,

> I went to my other ortho dr. today, I feel like I'm a

hypochondriac-I have a Family dr.,a Pain dr., a neurologist, and 2

ortho drs! Well. one only does hips and knees, the other does

shoulders and necks, oh- I forgot I also have a surgeon who did my

back and neck! Now I'm seriously bummed. My neck fusion helped my

shoulder some, I guess with the nerves, and I realize we're not a

shoulder group, but the two have an impact on each other. I'll be

having a shoulder arthroscopy next month, I have bone chips and

cartiledge that needs repair, and possibly might have a tear in my

rotator cuff, they won't know till they go in. it's supposed to be a

day surgery, but I'll be in a sling for 2 months, and not supposed

to have it lifted up except by a PT. So, more stress on my poor

husband, more guilt on me, we're both hoping this is the last of my

surgeries. My back pain originated inmy sacroiliac joints, the

lumbar fusion helped some, but still have to be on opiates, and now

that

> pain has worsened. It's been hard being a disabled housewife, but

at I could have little outings. Now I won't be able to drive and

will be almost completely dependent onmy husband for a couple

months. I'm lonely and full of anxiety. My insurance pays for 5 free

counseling visits, so I'm going to start that again and hope i can

get .appts. before my surgery. I've never been good at entertaining

myself. I miss the work atmosphere. I feel like I'm just existing,

and not contributing anything. I know I'm not the only one in the

group who has these feelings, but they've been especially strong

lately. Thanks you for letting me vent

> Jeannie

>

>

> Jeannie

>

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[Guest guest]

Jeannie, My doctors and PT told me that having disc problems especially in the

neck starts a domino affect. As it continues to get worse other things will

surface also. For example they say My carpal tunnel stems from the nerve damage

caused in my neck and the stenosis. Thought I would pass this on as you are

right shoulder pain and other pain does go right along with back and neck pain.

Hugs & Prayers Babs

[Guest guest]

Hi Larry,

Well, I sought counseling, and had appt., however, I now have a shoulder

arthroscopy scheduled for the 26th, and they don't want to break up the appts.,

they want them to run consistantly. So- maybe if I still have insurance after I

heal from this procedure, i can try again. So now I stress about not getting

help for my stress! I hope you are feeling better, you're so kind to think of

me.

Sincerely

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Mandi,

have a good rant with or without audience, have a proper moment of madness in the end you will feel much better I always do and the hubbie's face "what have I done this time" is unbeatable.

well sometimes a bar of chocolate does the trick as well, yes I know I am a sinner ....

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