Emails

January 20, 2003

>To and the Group,

>Over the last few months, I have been getting emails that looks like

>they are coming from people from the list. These emails have

>attachments. The subject looks like it pertains to HBOT. I have not

>opened any of them, since there has been so many viruses going

>around. I have deleted most of them. Here are the last 4 emails

>that I have received (From: then the Subject:) These emails are not

>coming through the medicaid group.

>1. nemeth (window.opener)

>2. dfreels Ed Nemeth

>3. medicaid Menu Defs

>4. tinlizzy12 McGill Study featured a

>

>I was wondering if anyone else is getting these? If so have they

>been opened? Please let me know what you think. I would like to

>know if Ed sent me this email with subject - (window.opener) on 1-15-

>03? Until I know for sure, I won't open and attachments.

>Thanks,

>Lois Bowen-Arizona

>

Lois:

I've gotten emails like this too. My email program is not set to

automatically open attachments, which keeps me from being infected--I think.

I have noticed that virus emails like this usually have an included text

message that looks something like this:

Content-Type: text/html;

Content-Type: audio/x-wav;

name=type.exe

Content-ID: <T8RruR6c366>

Anytime I get a message that has " audio/x-wav " in it I immediately trash it

and then empty the trash.

Probably some new UHMS technique.

They are worms you know.

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" For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks,

the door will be opened. " [Luke 11:10]

Freels

2948 Windfield Circle

Tucker, GA 30084-6714

770/491-6776 (phone and fax)

509/275-1618 (efax, sends fax as email attachment)

mailto:dfreels@...

http://www.freelanceforum.org/davidfreels

January 20, 2003

In a message dated 1/20/2003 10:54:22 AM Pacific Standard Time,

morndorff@... writes:

> I would like to

> know if Ed sent me this email with subject - (window.opener) on 1-15-

> 03? Until I know for sure, I won't open and attachments.

>

DO NOT open that email! window.opener is a virus. I have now received it

from a large number of the names on our list, as well as a couple of names

that were not on our list. It is my suggestion at this time that if you

receive any attachments in any emails from this listserv you do not open them

until you have confirmed directly with that person that they did indeed send

you an attachment in an email. It appears this list had been targeted in an

atttempt to shut it down.

Cheryl Bruce, MD

President/Founder

The Center

For Exceptional Children and Families, Inc.

" Where growth begins "

PO Box 732

Belmont, CA 94002-0732

650-591-1181

Toll free: 1-877-869-2436

<A HREF= " http://www.gregorycenter.org " >http://www.gregorycenter.org</A>

cheryl @gregorycenter.org

January 20, 2003

Greetings Lois,

Better safe than sorry. At one time a mo. or two ago, I got similar

emails but didn't open them. I immediately deleted them. We have since

updated all our firewall and antivirus systems. I would suggest

everyone do the same. We will constantly be harangued with this type of

sabotage. It will come from many different sources. Protect your

computers with the downloadable virus scans and update them on a regular

basis. Run the scans on your total system on a regular basis. Some of

these are sleeper viruses that are triggered by a future infection that

you may download from someone you know and trust. We pay a high price

for this ability to communicate, don't we? We either use snail mail or

join the rest of the world in protecting ourselves from this type of

practice. It is such a shame that we have to do this.

With Much Respect,

Marlena Orndorff

) These emails are not

coming through the medicaid group.

1. nemeth (window.opener)

2. dfreels Ed Nemeth

3. medicaid Menu Defs

4. tinlizzy12 McGill Study featured a

I was wondering if anyone else is getting these? If so have they

been opened? Please let me know what you think. I would like to

know if Ed sent me this email with subject - (window.opener) on 1-15-

03? Until I know for sure, I won't open and attachments.

Thanks,

Lois Bowen-Arizona

January 21, 2003

It is clear that this list is 'virus infected'. There is not doubt

at all. So the solution is to either have a bulletproof virus

protection system or to simply change the way you do things.

I do not allow groups to send me emails. When I signed up for

this and other groups, I chose the 'no email' option. When I want

to see what is being posted, I simply log onto www.,

put in my username (mlv91745) and my password and then I go down the

list of posts. Windows will even change the color of the posts that

you have read so you can keep track of what you have seen. If I

choose to post then I simply click on post and type away.

groups spends a lot of time protecting its servers so as long

as I read posts off their servers, I am fine.

You have to understand that viruses use windows and outlook features

to propagate. When groups blasts out the email posts to your

address, it blasts out the originating email address as well.

Windows (as smart as it is), picks up that address and adds it to

its book. Then when your computer is infected, the virus simply

goes to your address book and cookies and blasts out emails with

attachments. In fact some virus worms are so advanced that they

will collect email addresses from emails you have received that are

not even in your address book.

So in the case of Ed Nemeth, chances are that his email was found on

someone else's book and the worm virus used it as the originating

email address - hence it seemed like his computer was sending when

he was not even in town.

Simply put, turn off email delivery from groups and opt to go

and read the posts at the site. This will also

reduce the 'email clutter' in your personal email. You can do this

by simply going to and logging in with your screen

name and password. Then change your profile and it will give you

the option of email delivery. Choose no email. You are done. Your

email box will not be clutter free. Now if you EVER receive any

email from groups, you are sure to know it is a virus. Simply

delete it.

The other option is to switch to a email service provider that scans

for viruses for you. Aol, and MSN do not do this. Email providers

that scan for viruses, will reject any email with a virus and simply

send you a message stating the someone has tried to send you a

virus. This service costs about $20 per month but is worth the

money if you depend on your computer and email for a living.

Hope that helps.

> To and the Group,

> Over the last few months, I have been getting emails that looks

like

> they are coming from people from the list. These emails have

> attachments. The subject looks like it pertains to HBOT. I have

not

> opened any of them, since there has been so many viruses going

> around. I have deleted most of them. Here are the last 4 emails

> that I have received (From: then the Subject:) These emails are

not

> coming through the medicaid group.

> 1. nemeth (window.opener)

> 2. dfreels Ed Nemeth

> 3. medicaid Menu Defs

> 4. tinlizzy12 McGill Study featured a

>

> I was wondering if anyone else is getting these? If so have they

> been opened? Please let me know what you think. I would like to

> know if Ed sent me this email with subject - (window.opener) on 1-

15-

> 03? Until I know for sure, I won't open and attachments.

> Thanks,

> Lois Bowen-Arizona

January 21, 2003

Greetings! Thanks Mlv for the info. Everyone needs to keep this one

for reference.

Mlv. Can you email me privately?

With Much Respect,

Marlena Orndorff

) These emails are

not

> coming through the medicaid group.

> 1. nemeth (window.opener)

> 2. dfreels Ed Nemeth

> 3. medicaid Menu Defs

> 4. tinlizzy12 McGill Study featured a

>

> I was wondering if anyone else is getting these? If so have they

> been opened? Please let me know what you think. I would like to

> know if Ed sent me this email with subject - (window.opener) on 1-

15-

> 03? Until I know for sure, I won't open and attachments.

> Thanks,

> Lois Bowen-Arizona

July 31, 2003

Hi , I put you on no email. Write me when you get back to remind me to

put you back on email. Cheers, Ruth

Ruth's Cochlear Implant History:

N22 May 1,1987

N22 removed Oct. 30, 2000 for MRI

N24 Nov.1,2000

3G May 18,2001

Diagnosis: Mitochondrial Myopathy Sept. 2001

Emails

> Hi. Please put a stop on emails for me from August 1 until the 12th.

> Please resume on August 13

>

> Thank you

>

July 31, 2003

not a problem , we will be glad to do that.

--

Snoopy

congential rubella

hearing aids since 3

left implant 3G 7/19/02

right implant 3G 5/15/03

Bilateral and loving it!!

December 8, 2003

So, tell me Mrs. Lincoln, outside of that one little incident, how did you like the play?????????????

December 8, 2003

Teri,

I hope things lighten up for you soon. We will surely miss our daily

chuckles. I hope your computer starts cooperating soon. Maybe it's

got a worm or a virus. You might want to try downloading a patch from

Microsoft website if that's the case. Take care,

http://www.tampabayhep.com

> Hi Guys and Gals,

>

> I think I'm going to take a break until after the 1st of the year,

I will still be here just not sending much out!! I'm being pretty

depressed with Christmas and other problems, not health issuses.

>

> I some how screwed up my email, lost all my jokes etc. that I had

addressed and ready to go out. Also lost half of my mail that was in

my inbox that I wanted to answer. My computer then replaced them with

emails clear back to Oct. that have been read, answered and deleted!

SO beats the crap out of me!!

>

> Still not getting all of my emails, they come in a few days after

they have been posted! says my acct. is fine, internet service

says it's fine so guess it's my computer!

> This is making emails very difficult to follow, to say the least!!

So if I don't answer someone, Im not ignoring you!! I will try my

best to get back to you!

>

> Plus I need to do something Christmassy so I can get some peace of

mind with the financial situation. I love you all.

>

> Love, Teri

December 8, 2003

Teri,

Relax, take time just for you . You do so much for other people , you need to have some "me time" . When my e-mail does unexpected things I blame Spyke - it's amazing the amount of trouble one small adolescent cat ( he's not quite a cat ,, not still a kitten.) can cause !

I can't get excited about Christmas these days . My youngest sister will be here with her daughter & stepkids next week, so we'll be having Christmas early . On the actual day , I think I'll sleep late , then go over to my parents place sometime in the afternoon . I like quiet times now . Guess I had enough excitment back in the day.

Take care of yourself for a change, SuzieTeri Covert <covertop@...> wrote:

Hi Guys and Gals,

I think I'm going to take a break until after the 1st of the year, I will still be here just not sending much out!! I'm being pretty depressed with Christmas and other problems, not health issuses.

I some how screwed up my email, lost all my jokes etc. that I had addressed and ready to go out. Also lost half of my mail that was in my inbox that I wanted to answer. My computer then replaced them with emails clear back to Oct. that have been read, answered and deleted! SO beats the crap out of me!!

Still not getting all of my emails, they come in a few days after they have been posted! says my acct. is fine, internet service says it's fine so guess it's my computer!

This is making emails very difficult to follow, to say the least!! So if I don't answer someone, Im not ignoring you!! I will try my best to get back to you!

Plus I need to do something Christmassy so I can get some peace of mind with the financial situation. I love you all.

Love, Teri

December 8, 2003

Teri,

Relax, take time just for you . You do so much for other people , you need to have some "me time" . When my e-mail does unexpected things I blame Spyke - it's amazing the amount of trouble one small adolescent cat ( he's not quite a cat ,, not still a kitten.) can cause !

I can't get excited about Christmas these days . My youngest sister will be here with her daughter & stepkids next week, so we'll be having Christmas early . On the actual day , I think I'll sleep late , then go over to my parents place sometime in the afternoon . I like quiet times now . Guess I had enough excitment back in the day.

Take care of yourself for a change, SuzieTeri Covert <covertop@...> wrote:

Hi Guys and Gals,

I think I'm going to take a break until after the 1st of the year, I will still be here just not sending much out!! I'm being pretty depressed with Christmas and other problems, not health issuses.

I some how screwed up my email, lost all my jokes etc. that I had addressed and ready to go out. Also lost half of my mail that was in my inbox that I wanted to answer. My computer then replaced them with emails clear back to Oct. that have been read, answered and deleted! SO beats the crap out of me!!

Still not getting all of my emails, they come in a few days after they have been posted! says my acct. is fine, internet service says it's fine so guess it's my computer!

This is making emails very difficult to follow, to say the least!! So if I don't answer someone, Im not ignoring you!! I will try my best to get back to you!

Plus I need to do something Christmassy so I can get some peace of mind with the financial situation. I love you all.

Love, Teri

November 16, 2005

Steve, Not sure but I do not think it is something you are doing. You can always come in the group and read them here. You can change your suscription to the dialy digest, maybe this works better. sometimes has glitches.. Nina renoalaska@... wrote: I keep getting the same emails day after day. can anyone tell me what is going on. sometimes the same email twice or three times a day so i need to know what i am doing wrong. also i only see about 5 different email addresses. Steve

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May 6, 2007

You can change your email wants on the original page you signed up on. Personally I love reading how everyone is doing.See what's free at AOL.com.

May 6, 2007

That is strange. ARe you receiving all the posts here via email? There

were two that went out yesterday,one was a thought for the day, the

other was a disclaimer.

Jodie

>

> I posted a request to nightowl, and I have received 2 emails instead,

> that appear to have been meant for someone else! I am just curious

> about this, and I am wondering if I should be getting other peoples

> emails?

>

> Mason

>

May 6, 2007

I don't know about all of them, but I have been receiving a lot of them! I actually want to receive emails that are sent to me, but I am not sure I want to receive all these other posts! I am even receiving those that I have posted! Jodie <our_humblepie@...> wrote: That is strange. ARe you receiving all the posts here via email? There were two that went out yesterday,one was a thought for the day, the other was a disclaimer.Jodie>> I posted a request to nightowl, and I have received 2 emails instead, > that appear to have been meant for someone else! I am just curious > about this, and I am wondering if I should be getting other peoples > emails? > > Mason> Bored stiff? Loosen up...Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games.

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May 6, 2007

-i receive all the email posts from everyone also i think its great

that way i dont have to log on to the site all the new email come to

my email

>jacqueline

October 6, 2007

Hi D.

I have the rashes and the severe itching but mine is caused by Psoriatic

Arthritis secondary to Ankylosing Spondylitis. This is a diagnosis that is

just now coming into its own category.

Fr. Dave

October 6, 2007

--THANK YOU FR.DAVE!!! Finally got a great answer to tell my doc's.

My family, my kids, and I have Psorisis. Just maybe Psoriatic Arthitis

is in there too. I know I have Reiters, but all of us got our Psorisis

under control, unless we eat sweets. Watch out, the holidays are coming.

I will have to have a long talk with my Dr. and see what he says. Thank

you again so much. And you are in my prayers. I hope you get feeling

better soon. And better with us is different than the norm. Hope Hazel

is babying you, it is nice when you feel like one legs in the grave and

the other on a banana peel if someone treats you sweet. I've been there

many times, and had to still take care of my 6 kids. Warn me down to a

feather. Take care. D. in Oregon

- In , " Fr. Dave " <dewi@...> wrote:

>

> Hi D.

>

> I have the rashes and the severe itching but mine is caused by

Psoriatic

> Arthritis secondary to Ankylosing Spondylitis. This is a diagnosis

that is

> just now coming into its own category.

>

> Fr. Dave

>

October 7, 2007

dliz:

Have you ever been treated w/ antibiotics for " infection " ???

I am currently taking doxy and rifampin (it's been 8 months)... no

improvement I'm get very frustrated. I can't sleep at night due

to night sweats. I get up at 3 AM every night. I'm tired all day.

We'll see.

October 7, 2007

You are quite welcome Lizabeth.

I have long had the idea that there is only one Spondy Disease and the other

diagnoses that we get, AS, ReA, SpA, etc are only names for other symptoms

of the one disease.

Lizabeth, I have had a full load of caring for someone in the immediate

family going through serious diseases, etc. Cerebral Aneurysims causing

Organic Brain Syndrome. To bring the fancy words into language we all can

understand, it was someone who had two ruptured cerebral aneurysms, 7 brain

operations to fix them, and all causing severe brain damage. Part of the

damage was the killing of the entire Frontal Lobe of that person's brain.

It actually became deadly for anyone to care for her having dodged knife

blades and other sharp flying objects one too many times. It wears a person

out especially when you have to become sole caregiver, trustee and guardian

for that person. Believe me, death, my death, would have been a Godsend

near the end of that experience.

Being as ill as we are, nobody can really put themselves in our shoes for

even a fraction of a second. They do not know the fears and all that are

involved.

I remember when my doctor at the time, Doctor Baker, sat down at his

desk in front of me, now I was not in the examination room, but rather he

personal office, when he unloaded the Ankylosing Spondylitis and other

loverly Spondy diagnoses on me. I think my jaw fell to the floor. I had

heard of AS, I had studied AS for my x-ray and nuclear medicine lectures. I

was not prepared for me to be diagnosed with it. It took me about 30

minutes to find my way out of his office, pick up my prescriptions and then

make my way, another 30 minutes, to my drug store to get them filled then

drive home. When I told my wife at the time the results of all the tests

and what they said I had, as a nurse she knew of this disease, and she said,

" so what?????? Big, hairy deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " Needless to say I was

crushed. Needless to say I am no longer in that situation.

Blessings to all

Fr. Dave

October 8, 2007

Hey ,

I think I have responded to your e-mails, and posted some of mine.

I have been successfully treated with antibiotics. 3 times in 20 years. It

is hard to get a doctor to try different meds. The drug that worked for me

was Floxin 300 mg 2 x per day for 3 months. The last time my Rheumatologist

gave me 300 mg Clyndamycin at the same time, although it may not have been

necessary.

I once was treated with doxy and septra at the same time for prostate

infection / Reiter's. It did not work for me, but I think the doctor that

prescribed it was quite in tune and it worked for others.

I think, if you have an infection, or something like an infection causing

Reiter's then it may take just the perfect antibiotic to clear the problem, or

multiple antibiotics. Dr Brown's Protocol, and Marshall Protocol seem to

make sense for my treatment. My rheumatologist has said, in my case, it looks

like any health issue tends to trigger my Reiter's.

I also think fungal infections, even if they are low level infections, can

trigger Reiter's.

I also think the diet is very important. Simple foods, no spices, no

preservatives, no pop, no candy or other sources of high fructose corn syrup may

help with symptoms.

I think any liquor, even a glass of wine or 1 beer, tends to bring out

symptoms that might not show up until you have the liquor.

A person I met, told me his mother had arthritis, and she insisted her diet

was a huge factor. He said she ate simple food, and remarked it tasted like

cardboard, but felt much better with her minimal diet. I know, 50 years ago,

my grandmother lived with us and my mom kept her on a simple diet - if she

stayed at another place for a while, mom would point out how poorly Grandma

felt until she got back on the simple diet.

Good Luck,

Greg

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October 8, 2007

D. ~

I have the " all-the-time/anytime sweats " and the thinning hair that you

describe. I've been to a number of doctors regarding both issues and

have been told everything from post-menopause (I had a hysterical-ectomy

& oompherectomy in 1998 so, of course, I'm post-menopausal ~ even though

I'll *only* be 44 on Thursday. By the way, Happy Birthday to you on

Wednesday!) to thyroid to mineral deficiency. Nothing has actually

panned out. The Synthroid has helped slow down the hair loss, but it's

still happening a bit. Last week, an endocrinologist wanted to try to

wean me off Premarin. Get this, he wants to put me on an

anti-depressant (even though I'm not depressed) because it has " been

shown " to help with hot flashes. I tried to tell him, I have the

all-the-time/anytime sweats, not just hot flashes related to estrogen,

but he wouldn't listen. (I had " regular " hot flashes immediately

following my hysterectomy, so I do know the difference.)

Sorry, I have no answers for you, but I do have the symptoms and I'm

seeking treatment. If you find anything that works to help either,

please post and I shall do the same.

Blessed be!

(NC)

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October 8, 2007

Fr. Dave, It sounds like we have a parallel type of life. My 4 husbands we

alcoholic/drug addicts, that I didn't know before getting married. While dating

them, I guess I was their drug of choice. I got beat up by two of them, but

emotionally beat up by all. My poor kids had to go thru some stuff watching me

in these messes. Finally when I got in Alanon, I learned to release the person

with love, and now I stay single. I have been sick on and off thru my life, but

after the last divorce, I guess the stress of all those years caught up with me,

and I am worse off than ever. I can't even move to another apartment, it gets me

sicker. So, I'm going to stay here until I die. I have dealt with Spondy

diseases since I was 19, I am 58 now. And yes, I think it is one of the diseases

that flip the switch and turn on all the others. I do know I had Ulcerative

Colitis first, and with that bacteria going thru my body for so long, it has

just gone everywhere and contaminated my whole body. But it does take a lot of

strength to keep going, let alone taking care of others with problems. With my

problems, I have gotten very close to the Lord, He is my best friend. I died

three times having to do with my surgeries, and he comes and tells me I can go

with Him, but I haven't finished my mission yet. So I choose to stay. If He came

today, I would go. I think I have done most of the work I can do with this body.

I do enjoy teaching the gospels to children, did it for 20 years, and now with

my own grandchildren when my kids bring them over to visit. I want them to have

a strong foundation Knowing the Lord. It is a beautiful thing to really Know

Him, not just know about Him. That is what keeps me going. Drs. really don't

know what to do to help me, and one time I took my shoes off and told the doc to

walk in my shoes for a day. He understands a little better now how I am feeling.

All the surgeries and all the Spondy activity going on, it is really hard to

keep going, but the doc says they will try to keep me comfortable. But the thing

is, somedays I feel like doing my own surgery on my belly pain. But don't worry,

I can upon the Lord and He sees me thru it. One day we will be gone, but for

those in the future, medicine will find something that will repair the immune

system before it can do much damage. I pray for all of us suffering with these

diseases in this day and age, because the docs really are guessing at what they

are doing to treat us. But each of us are insterments to finding the cure. My

grandfather had polio as a young man, they found a way to prevent polio after he

had it, but they learned on him and those who had it back then. God's hand is

on all of us, we just have to remember that. Bless you Fr. Dave for going thru

what you have, and are going thru. Bless all the people with these diseases, and

be thankful someone like Rick put up this web site for us to reach out to each

other with love and understanding. Thank you all for listening, I am beginning

to preach,so I will leave that to Fr. Dave, and close now. D. in

Oregon

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