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Colleen, yes, your soap sounds like it gelled. My soap never gel.

I like the way they look, feel and honestly, I have never been able

to force a soap to gel unless I stick it in a warm oven or make it

with milk (never again).

As far as hot process vs CP, yes if the soap gets too hot some of

the oils could be ruined. At certain temps oils will break down.

As far as methods for heating/cooling down etc before adding the

lye, that isn't really going to affect the property of your oils.

In the end you will still have soap. By heating the soap up

saponification will happen a lot faster but since there are excess

fats in there, any non salts (the actual soap) can break down if hot

enough. Oils like peanut oil, coconut oil etc are a lot more stable

at high temps than something like olive oil. It has a lot to do

with the fatty acid chain lengths and degree of unsaturation.

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> Colleen, yes, your soap sounds like it gelled.

So because the inside was darker than the outside, does it sound like

it gelled completely? I'm just trying to figure out why the outside

was light and the inside was darker.

Thanks for your input! And your Punky stamp is adorable!!!

Colleen

Country Meadow Creations

http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com

Brown Bag Gourmet Goodies Consultant #1091

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Jeanine

Nice job. I bet everyone will love them.

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Just posted some pics of the kitties and the duckie soaps I did for

Val's shower. These are so much fun to do...

Will be off for about two weeks as we are leaving for Florida on

Wednesday, early. Have an order to get out tomorrow and a restock at

the craft store I'm in.

Shaye, hope you feel better as the days go by. Please don't

rush...as my dear Mother-in-law used to say......'who will know ten

years from now?'

Hugs to all.

Jeanine

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Coleen, It didnt gel completely all the way to the outside is why. I like

to gel but I dont cover with plastic. I use beach towels to wrap it in and

9.9 out of 10 I get complete gel and no ash.

Shaye

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> Colleen, yes, your soap sounds like it gelled.

So because the inside was darker than the outside, does it sound like

it gelled completely? I'm just trying to figure out why the outside

was light and the inside was darker.

Thanks for your input! And your Punky stamp is adorable!!!

Colleen

Country Meadow Creations

http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com

Brown Bag Gourmet Goodies Consultant #1091

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> Coleen, It didnt gel completely all the way to the outside is why.

How would I get it to gel all the way? Use more towels? Do you cover

the soap with anything so it doesn't get on the towel? LOL! So many

questions! And you thought I'd fired off all the questions I had when

I first made the soap. Hehehe!

Colleen

Country Meadow Creations

http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com

Brown Bag Gourmet Goodies Consultant #1091

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I have a small like a peice of wood that sits on top of the mold so the

towel dosnt get in the soap and helps keep in the heat. The reason for

this is that I use to cover it with plastic wap but I was never able to get

out all the trapped bubbles and somehow it always ended up very wrinkly. I

had to trim it a lot. So now I get a flatter top doing it this way. Less

trimming if any at all. What temp did you use for your oils and lye?

Shaye

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> Coleen, It didnt gel completely all the way to the outside is why.

How would I get it to gel all the way? Use more towels? Do you cover

the soap with anything so it doesn't get on the towel? LOL! So many

questions! And you thought I'd fired off all the questions I had when

I first made the soap. Hehehe!

Colleen

Country Meadow Creations

http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com

Brown Bag Gourmet Goodies Consultant #1091

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> I use to cover it with plastic wap but I was never able to get

> out all the trapped bubbles and somehow it always ended up very

wrinkly. What temp did you use for your oils and lye?

I used one of the MW tray molds and just laid a piece of saran over

the top. I didn't have air bubbles under it & the soap was pretty

flat. Except of course where Colleen got impatient and had to poke at

it to see how soft it was!!!

I didn't figure out the temps. I made up the lye water and let it

cool. I melted the oils and let that cool some too. Then I added the

lye water to the oils, brought to trace, added the eo, poured in the

mold, covered with saran, wrapped in towels, and left it for at least

24 hours. But like I told you before, I did get ash on the sides and

top, but not on the bottom. Not sure what I'll do differently for the

next batch. I may try a new recipe too. Who knows! I've got mp to

paint today and that's my top priority.

I do appreciate all of your insight!!!

Colleen

Country Meadow Creations

http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com

Brown Bag Gourmet Goodies Consultant #1091

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Hi Colleen!

I'll pipe in and say I have a really hard time getting MW molds to gel. I

would think a tray mold would be a little easier, but I have a cold house to

begin with, so most anything I want to gel I have to put in a warm oven

(CPOP) and I just discovered using my electric roaster oven works pretty

good for this. I don't think I'd do that with MW molds because I'd be

afraid they would melt. I've heard (I'm pretty sure Kae mentioned this)

using styrofoam coolers for the MW molds and if you're using more than one

you can stack them with a piece of cardboard between them.

Wood log molds are great insulators because the wood acts as a natural

insulator and the shape keeps the soap in pretty close proximity. I love

's log molds and they have the nice top that keeps everything cozy

inside. :-)

Oh, and it's nice to know I'm not the only one who's so darned impatient

when it comes to soap! LOL ;-)

HTH!

Beers

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> I used one of the MW tray molds and just laid a piece of saran over

> the top. I didn't have air bubbles under it & the soap was pretty

> flat. Except of course where Colleen got impatient and had to poke at

> it to see how soft it was!!!

>

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Thanks for the input ! I've got a wood mold, but it's a loaf

mold. I tried the MW mold because it's scored. I can't cut a

straight bar of soap no matter how hard I try! Maybe I'll hunt down

my wood mold and try it next time.

Colleen

Country Meadow Creations

http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com

Brown Bag Gourmet Goodies Consultant #1091

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Colleen,

With all those tools your hubby has, does he have a mitre box by chance?

That makes a good guide for cutting soap. :-)

Beers

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> Thanks for the input ! I've got a wood mold, but it's a loaf

> mold. I tried the MW mold because it's scored. I can't cut a

> straight bar of soap no matter how hard I try! Maybe I'll hunt down

> my wood mold and try it next time.

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I have decided I am going to cut the guides directly into one of my wood

molds. I bought a plastic mitre box from Home Depot for about 3 bucks but

even with that I have troubles. Even with guides, what you use to make the

cuts makes all the difference.

I found some wire clay cutters at 's for 75 cents. I need to trim

them up since they are so long the only thing I end up cutting with them

are my fingers!

A 12 " mud knife works best so far.

Signed, Mo in the snow still trying to figure out what MW stands for

At 02:51 PM 3/16/2004 -0500, Beers wrote:

>With all those tools your hubby has, does he have a mitre box by chance?

>That makes a good guide for cutting soap. :-)

>

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: " Colleen ston " <countrymeadowcreations@...>

>

> > Thanks for the input ! I've got a wood mold, but it's a loaf

> > mold. I tried the MW mold because it's scored. I can't cut a

> > straight bar of soap no matter how hard I try! Maybe I'll hunt down

> > my wood mold and try it next time.

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Maureen Barger, CIT/ID, Cornell University

Ithaca, NY 14850

mf12@...

http://mo.cit.cornell.edu/

" If I didn't start painting, I would have raised chickens. " -Grandma Moses

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and NY state reverberates with the big DUH sound originating in Ithaca..

<blush>

Thanks!

At 03:17 PM 3/16/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi Mo!

>

>MW stands for Milky Way molds! :-)

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Maureen Barger, CIT/ID, Cornell University

Ithaca, NY 14850

mf12@...

http://mo.cit.cornell.edu/

" If I didn't start painting, I would have raised chickens. " -Grandma Moses

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Is that that rumble I felt all the way up here? LOL

Shaye

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and NY state reverberates with the big DUH sound originating in Ithaca..

<blush>

Thanks!

At 03:17 PM 3/16/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi Mo!

>

>MW stands for Milky Way molds! :-)

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Maureen Barger, CIT/ID, Cornell University

Ithaca, NY 14850

mf12@...

http://mo.cit.cornell.edu/

" If I didn't start painting, I would have raised chickens. " -Grandma Moses

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> and NY state reverberates with the big DUH sound originating in

Ithaca..

Sorry Maureen! I should have just spelled it out. LOL, usually I'm

the one scratching my head trying to figure out the abbreviations. I

don't remember how long it took me to figure out LOL!!!

Colleen

Country Meadow Creations

http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com

Brown Bag Gourmet Goodies Consultant #1091

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OOH-so glad to hear there are other people impatient with the soap

too. So much of my soaps have a fingerprint in the middle of them

LOL.

Like Colleen, I can't cut a straight bar of soap if my life depended

on it. I also can't swirl for the life of me. I would love to

learn how to swirl and how to cut the soap straight!!!

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YOu can always practice on marble cakes :-) You can use them quicker than

soap :-P

<quote who= " meihee " >

> I would love to

> learn how to swirl and how to cut the soap straight!!!

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Cornell University

http://mo.cit.cornell.edu/

If I didn't start painting, I would have raised chickens. - Grandma Moses.

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What a great idea!

Shaye

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YOu can always practice on marble cakes :-) You can use them quicker than

soap :-P

<quote who= " meihee " >

> I would love to

> learn how to swirl and how to cut the soap straight!!!

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Maureen Barger CIT/ID

Cornell University

http://mo.cit.cornell.edu/

If I didn't start painting, I would have raised chickens. - Grandma Moses.

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  • 7 months later...

I deleted the pics of Beth's mission trip, but couldn't figure out how to delete the folder.

De

Faith is the ability to not panic.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:kcmija@...] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:53 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: RE: on trmt.

Hi ,

I don't know how you work while on TX,especially if your boss is a dickhead.

Fatigue is the most common symptom,so your kinda normal.

Are you checking your Labs?,remember to watch your Hgb.

You should put your Pic back up,maybe we can rotate some old ones out to make more room.

See my latest pic,it should help you get through TX.

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But I didn't get a Chance to see those De..Dang.... .Kathy.. Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

I deleted the pics of Beth's mission trip, but couldn't figure out how to delete the folder.

De

Faith is the ability to not panic.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:kcmija@...] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:53 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: RE: on trmt.

Hi ,

I don't know how you work while on TX,especially if your boss is a dickhead.

Fatigue is the most common symptom,so your kinda normal.

Are you checking your Labs?,remember to watch your Hgb.

You should put your Pic back up,maybe we can rotate some old ones out to make more room.

See my latest pic,it should help you get through TX.

Kathy Brunow

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De didn't Beth go to a forien country and help build houses??? If so I remember those pictures... That is wonderful, I now your proud of her..And Pat let Ali go she'll remember it for the rest of her life... KathyPat McBride <pmcbride1@...> wrote:

Im still very proud of what Beth did with her church group..

Ali wants to go to France next summer as an exchange student..OMG!!! Does anyone know much about these programs,,,HELP!!!!

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But I didn't get a Chance to see those De..Dang.... .Kathy.. Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

I deleted the pics of Beth's mission trip, but couldn't figure out how to delete the folder.

De

Faith is the ability to not panic.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:kcmija@...] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:53 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: RE: on trmt.

Hi ,

I don't know how you work while on TX,especially if your boss is a dickhead.

Fatigue is the most common symptom,so your kinda normal.

Are you checking your Labs?,remember to watch your Hgb.

You should put your Pic back up,maybe we can rotate some old ones out to make more room.

See my latest pic,it should help you get through TX.

Kathy Brunow

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Nice job Deanna!!!

Shaye

Pics

I uploaded a couple pics to my folder. There is one of my castile soap

in a basket which shows my labels, and one of lavender soap petals that

I made.

Peace,

Deanna

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OC Soap Co.

www.ocsoapco.com

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