Guilt

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/24/01 5:55:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ltb3105@...

writes:

<< Now, I'm feeling very guilt ridden that I didn't have his blood checked

sooner and that I insisted on a second med because the Trileptal wasn't

working yet.

Meanwhile, it's been 24 hrs. of being med free, and already he's been

in

time out!

That's all for now...take care all,

>>

Ah ,

Poor ! Gee, you should feel guilty....all those medical degrees you have

and you over looked that " plain as the nose on your face " diagnosis?!?!

NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why should you feel guilty for trying to help ? There

aren't a whole lot of parents on Earth that give as much as we do, and yet we

are always the first to feel guilty when things go wrong. Why do we do that

to ourselves? I't not like we have the extra room or energy to carry guilt

around too, yet we all manage to pick up guilt here and there and cram it

into our overloaded bags and keep trudging on. We all know how much you have

done, how much all of us have done. I sure will keep your family in my

prayers.

Gail

[Guest guest]

Watermelon is good for kidneys

Chriso we all feel the same some days, he has come a long way, the going 2 steps back is hard to bear. Is he pooping?

Mandi x

In a message dated 24/05/2010 12:39:50 GMT Daylight Time, marinavrahimi@... writes:

Great - water melon is the only fruit Jack will eat!! Marina x

On 24 May 2010 12:28, <tryfonascytanet.cy> wrote:Interesting article.... i will pass it on to the pharmacist of the family.......will make a note next time we give him watermelon...xxxxxthanks again----- Original Message Follows -----From: JULIE GRIFFITHS <moppett1btinternet>Autism Treatment Subject: Re: guiltDate: Mon, 24 May 2010 12:08:40 +0100

> I've just had a quick look through the internet as I remembered there > WAS something about water...

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:Autism-Biomedical-Europ...

[Guest guest]

Did he go after the 2 oxypowders? If not he may need more. Try giving it with a little fresh lemon juice and make sure he has plenty of fluids, poor lad must be really uncomfortable

Mandi x

In a message dated 24/05/2010 13:31:21 GMT Daylight Time, tryfonas@... writes:

so yesterday morn i gave him 2 oxys.... today he is not good.... I noticed while he was still asleep this morning, he was hitting himself....Yesterday morning, he woke up crying, wanting cuddles and kisses...ups and downs...... what do you think?

[Guest guest]

I've just had a quick look through the internet as I remembered there

WAS something about water melon that you had to be careful about.

This is not a scientific study but does refer to one where it was found

melon increased nitrous oxide. This could be the problem...Also high

arginine.....as it tends to inflate any herpes residing in the body.

Please ignore the sensationalistic message in the article though as it

may be a little embarassing for you.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2240284/Watermelon-has-s\

imilar-effects-to-Viagra.html

tryfonas@... schrieb:

> I am just in a negative mood due to my little one... has been better from the

week before last , lesser of the self aggression, but this morning its back,

could be the 2 Oxy capsules i gave him yesterday, only other thing is the honey

melon he ate and water melon too yesterday...

> Point is i feel so crap that i have failed... i am drowning in myself today

cause i cant be of any help.... Useless , that's a bad way to feel but the

results i see means i haven't done enough..... ... i know we all have our ups

and downs,,, i understand our downs are natural and tomorrow is another day...

BUT for now i feel low....

> sorry

> xxxxx

> chriso

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If

you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting article.... i will pass it on to the pharmacist of the family.......

will make a note next time we give him watermelon...

xxxxx

thanks again

Re: guilt

Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 12:08:40 +0100

> I've just had a quick look through the internet as I remembered there

> WAS something about water melon that you had to be careful about.

>

> This is not a scientific study but does refer to one where it was found

> melon increased nitrous oxide. This could be the problem...Also high

> arginine.....as it tends to inflate any herpes residing in the body.

>

> Please ignore the sensationalistic message in the article though as it

> may be a little embarassing for you.

>

>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2240284/Watermelon-has-s\

imilar-effects-to-Viagra.html

>

>

>

> tryfonas@... schrieb:

> > I am just in a negative mood due to my little one... has been better from

the week before last , lesser of the self aggression, but this morning its

back, could be the 2 Oxy capsules i gave him yesterday, only other thing is the

honey melon he ate and water melon too yesterday...

> > Point is i feel so crap that i have failed... i am drowning in myself today

cause i cant be of any help.... Useless , that's a bad way to feel but the

results i see means i haven't done enough..... ... i know we all have our ups

and downs,,, i understand our downs are natural and tomorrow is another day...

BUT for now i feel low....

> > sorry

> > xxxxx

> > chriso

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > DISCLAIMER

> > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice.

If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified

practitioner.

> >

[Guest guest]

Great - water melon is the only fruit Jack will eat!! Marina x

On 24 May 2010 12:28, <tryfonas@...> wrote:

Interesting article.... i will pass it on to the pharmacist of the family.......

will make a note next time we give him watermelon...

xxxxx

thanks again

Re: guilt

Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 12:08:40 +0100

> I've just had a quick look through the internet as I remembered there > WAS something about water...<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:

Autism-Biomedical-Europ...

[Guest guest]

Full moon (pending) alert! Might have something to do with it!

x

Autism Treatment From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 08:02:17 -0400Subject: Re: guilt

Watermelon is good for kidneys

Chriso we all feel the same some days, he has come a long way, the going 2 steps back is hard to bear. Is he pooping?

Mandi x

In a message dated 24/05/2010 12:39:50 GMT Daylight Time, marinavrahimigooglemail writes:

Great - water melon is the only fruit Jack will eat!! Marina x

On 24 May 2010 12:28, <tryfonascytanet.cy> wrote:Interesting article.... i will pass it on to the pharmacist of the family.......will make a note next time we give him watermelon...xxxxxthanks again----- Original Message Follows -----From: JULIE GRIFFITHS <moppett1btinternet>Autism Treatment Subject: Re: guiltDate: Mon, 24 May 2010 12:08:40 +0100

> I've just had a quick look through the internet as I remembered there > WAS something about water...

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:Autism-Biomedical-Europ...

Get a new e-mail account with Hotmail – Free. Sign-up now.

[Guest guest]

i think he must be, i remember yesterday , no day before we were at a friends

house, he went to her loo.... smelt awful... couldn't see color or anything..

Because of the smell i thought to myself i may need to do a clear out... so

yesterday morn i gave him 2 oxys.... today he is not good.... I noticed while he

was still asleep this morning, he was hitting himself....

Yesterday morning, he woke up crying, wanting cuddles and kisses...

ups and downs...... what do you think?

> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 12:08:40 +0100

> > I've just had a quick look through the internet as I remembered there

> > WAS something about water...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Chriso

 

I think each of us has gone through a period of hopelessness and easily transfer it into guilt... funny thing though is that as soon as I stand back from the situation and know that I will be shown the next path to follow ( I believe in universal guidance) and go to sleep knowing that I wil be shown a sign... somehow I always connect with a new person, treatment or mindfulness that shows me what I need to do next.

 

My Guilt barometer is now something to acknowledge- it is like a warning sign that I need to stop what I am doing and allow another set of events to guide me on the next phase of my journey with Tatijana...

 

With love and guiding light

 

 

Tracey

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:35 PM, <Mum231ASD@...> wrote:

 

Did he go after the 2 oxypowders? If not he may need more. Try giving it with a little fresh lemon juice and make sure he has plenty of fluids, poor lad must be really uncomfortable

 

Mandi x

 

In a message dated 24/05/2010 13:31:21 GMT Daylight Time, tryfonas@... writes:

so yesterday morn i gave him 2 oxys.... today he is not good.... I noticed while he was still asleep this morning, he was hitting himself....

Yesterday morning, he woke up crying, wanting cuddles and kisses...ups and downs...... what do you think?

[Guest guest]

Hello Chriso, Been there a thousand times. Today I feel up (well apart

from Dr Wakefield). You will again too, I promise. Is there anyone who

can look after him for you and give you a break? You'll come back with

your batteries re-charged and be a better mum for it.

Sara x

tryfonas@... wrote:

> I am just in a negative mood due to my little one... has been better from the

week before last , lesser of the self aggression, but this morning its back,

could be the 2 Oxy capsules i gave him yesterday, only other thing is the honey

melon he ate and water melon too yesterday...

> Point is i feel so crap that i have failed... i am drowning in myself today

cause i cant be of any help.... Useless , that's a bad way to feel but the

results i see means i haven't done enough..... ... i know we all have our ups

and downs,,, i understand our downs are natural and tomorrow is another day...

BUT for now i feel low....

> sorry

> xxxxx

> chriso

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If

you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.

>

[Guest guest]

ahh 2 probably not enough which means you're stirring things up, causing

die-off and not clearing him out (at least it would mean that in my

Tom). sounds like you need a bigger dose over a few days. (we do 8 a day

for 2 days)

Sara x

tryfonas@... wrote:

> i think he must be, i remember yesterday , no day before we were at a friends

house, he went to her loo.... smelt awful... couldn't see color or anything..

Because of the smell i thought to myself i may need to do a clear out... so

yesterday morn i gave him 2 oxys.... today he is not good.... I noticed while he

was still asleep this morning, he was hitting himself....

> Yesterday morning, he woke up crying, wanting cuddles and kisses...

> ups and downs...... what do you think?

>

>

>

>> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 12:08:40 +0100

>>

>>> I've just had a quick look through the internet as I remembered there

>>> WAS something about water...

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If

you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.

>

[Guest guest]

Don't beat yourself up! Water, good clear out, lots of cuddles if

allowed/wanted - and give yourself a pat on the back, you're doing an amazing

job

>

> I am just in a negative mood due to my little one... has been better from the

week before last , lesser of the self aggression, but this morning its back,

could be the 2 Oxy capsules i gave him yesterday, only other thing is the honey

melon he ate and water melon too yesterday...

> Point is i feel so crap that i have failed... i am drowning in myself today

cause i cant be of any help.... Useless , that's a bad way to feel but the

results i see means i haven't done enough..... ... i know we all have our ups

and downs,,, i understand our downs are natural and tomorrow is another day...

BUT for now i feel low....

> sorry

> xxxxx

> chriso

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Chrisso

A few of my favourite quotations, which always cheer me up, i hope they help:-

"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new".

"There is nothing worse than being ordinary."

"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond to it."

"I would rather die on my feet than surrender on my knees."

"I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it."

"For every door of happiness that closes, another one opens, but sometimes we are too busy looking at the closed door to notice."

Fate bought me to this group site and i really shudder to think where i would be( let alone my son be) without it and all the people who are part of it.

xx

Autism Treatment From: thelifechangers@...Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 15:49:43 +0100Subject: Re: guilt

Dear Chriso

I think each of us has gone through a period of hopelessness and easily transfer it into guilt... funny thing though is that as soon as I stand back from the situation and know that I will be shown the next path to follow ( I believe in universal guidance) and go to sleep knowing that I wil be shown a sign... somehow I always connect with a new person, treatment or mindfulness that shows me what I need to do next.

My Guilt barometer is now something to acknowledge- it is like a warning sign that I need to stop what I am doing and allow another set of events to guide me on the next phase of my journey with Tatijana...

With love and guiding light

Tracey

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:35 PM, <Mum231ASDaol> wrote:

Did he go after the 2 oxypowders? If not he may need more. Try giving it with a little fresh lemon juice and make sure he has plenty of fluids, poor lad must be really uncomfortable

Mandi x

In a message dated 24/05/2010 13:31:21 GMT Daylight Time, tryfonascytanet.cy writes:

so yesterday morn i gave him 2 oxys.... today he is not good.... I noticed while he was still asleep this morning, he was hitting himself....Yesterday morning, he woke up crying, wanting cuddles and kisses...ups and downs...... what do you think?

Get a free e-mail account with Hotmail. Sign-up now.

[Guest guest]

I felt the same last week, when my son stopped sleeping, screaming all day. It

was really hard and I felt really bad. But this week he is better.

> >

> > I am just in a negative mood due to my little one... has been better from

the week before last , lesser of the self aggression, but this morning its

back, could be the 2 Oxy capsules i gave him yesterday, only other thing is the

honey melon he ate and water melon too yesterday...

> > Point is i feel so crap that i have failed... i am drowning in myself today

cause i cant be of any help.... Useless , that's a bad way to feel but the

results i see means i haven't done enough..... ... i know we all have our ups

and downs,,, i understand our downs are natural and tomorrow is another day...

BUT for now i feel low....

> > sorry

> > xxxxx

> > chriso

> >

>

[Guest guest]

TeriI couldn't agree with you more, about looking at the changes in our lives, that the minuscule virus brought about!! Plus, I love the concept "Screw Guilt" as well.It's been many many years since I made good money; but, I am able to continue to make a little still and for that I am very grateful. Also, I get a lot of satisfaction doing what I do for a living and don't have to put up with co-workers , in order to do it. I never did find where money honestly has bought anyone real happiness nor health!! Sure, I get a warm and fuzzy feeling when I can pay my monthly bills on time and as long as that continues, I'll be serene.Truthfully, I've had a letter from our Taxation people, to advise me that they are going to keep 100% of my small disability pension,

until my $3,500 back taxes are paid. There was no use in me going over the end with that kind of shock; however, I will be contacting as many powers to be, as will be humanly possible, tomorrow. After all that I have faced just this year alone - I can't see where losing it, will make things any better!! Besides, I have a signed agreement with my husband, that he is to pay my back taxes, because I only have them so that he wasn't hit harder. Therefore, as I see it at the moment, if I can't get Revenue Canada to back off immediately, I guess he's going to have to give me nearly $1,000 at the end of this month, instead of only $318. Good thing that he's found work hey??I'll just tell him that if he doesn't pay me that money, then I'll have to move back to the house and he'll have to support me anyway. Plus, then he will have to put up with my motor mouth and the fact that I don't have any respect left for

him!!By the way, I have the same habit - crying when I'm mad!!! However, I've warned a few folks in my life, that I can become really dangerous to their health if I stop crying. There's been a few that figured out that if I suddenly appear to be calm - RUN!! I haven't allowed myself to be that angry for many years now; but, I'm not sure how much more that I can take from this ignorant man that I married or his kids. The whole lot of them disgust me!! You know of course Teri, that you have something in your life that no amount of money can possibly buy?? You have a husband and a son that must just adore you! To some degree, I could be really jealous, if I were the type that even knows what that word means. After I finally accepted that my husband had honestly opted out of our marriage emotionally, I've been working on making all the changes that has brought about. However, I can tell

you honestly, that the hardest part has been in believing that someone that I spent so many years with, could betray me this badly!!! Certainly, in light of the fact that we are both eldest children and that we are both very stubborn, our marriage wasn't always free from trouble. But, this betrayal has the power to actually cause me to lose trust in every part of my life, if I let it. So, I'm fighting very hard to hold onto my need to see everything in a positive light. Some days, the fight is just a little more difficult than others.Gloria

Gloria,I still love the concept. "Screw Guilt". It works. Somewhere about halfway thru my bout with treatment for Hep C I stopped asking "why me?" and turned it into "why not me?" Somehow, that changed my attitude, or my attitude changed and thats when the question changed. I know how I was infected. For me, with the timeline of the progression of the disease it was a no brainer. I was one or some or all of those 5 units of blood I received in 1980. I look back and think how much worse it could have been. What if, in addition to Hep C, I was also infected with the HIV virus? That would have been worse. And once I saw that part of it, I was okay with

it being Hep C. Not that I like what has happened to me, because I don't. Not that I like this pain in my liver, because I don't, not that I like the fact that I have lost friends and some family connections because of this virus because I don't. But at least the Hep C damage is being controlled in me. For now at least. Whether SVR is forever, we'll have to wait and see. But knowing that 5 years ago without treatment I would have needed a new liver within 6 months and knowing that here it is 5 years later and I'm writing this, gives me some sort of peace. Hep C put things in perspective for me. The little stuff, it's just little stuff. If it won't change the outcome of the world in 20 years, it doesn't need to cause me grief. I think I'm a lot more accepting. Guilt tore me up for many many years. My current financial situation is a direct result of

my dealing with Hep C. We were living the good life before I got sick. I made fantastic money. We had enough money to pay all the bills on time every month, we had 2 cars with car payments and a house with a mortgage. We even had money for entertainment and dinner out frequently. Now, the house, gone. The cars, gone but replaced with one that is paid for. Do I feel bad when it's tight financially? And right now, it's tight financially. .. yep. Is there anything I can do about it. Nope. Do I wish it was all better? Hell yes. Hopefully, one day it will be. But right now, I can honestly tell you, I've come to terms with all that and let it go. I had a rough day today. No guilt involved just a meeting with the board of deacons from the church that owned the house I just moved from. I found out I am dealing with liars,

cheats and thieves. I was glad I was able to prove that they were wrong with their numbers because I had stayed up all night last night putting a spreadsheet together. Did it solve anything? No, they still owe me over 3 thousand dollars. I was stressing so badly at one point today because I was so angry that I actually thought I was going to have a heart attack. After I calmed down, one clonopin later, I was able to go at this problem from a different direction. Now I am okay. I don't have my 3 grand but I'm okay. I realized that sometimes you have to ask for help from someone who can help you. I did just that and have allies already rallying for us with this problem. I got the stress under control and I'm dealing with the problem. If I was still able to work in my desired field, or even the field I was great in, or the field I made the most money in, the 3 grand would still be in limbo

but our finances wouldn't look so rough right now. Do I feel guilty that I can't work anymore, no, I've accepted that fact. It sucks but it is what it is. It's not worth making myself as sick as I did today over. I also have this problem of crying when I get really angry. It took everything I had today to keep myself in check in front of those idiots. I didn't let them see me cry, I didn't let on that I was as angry as I was. I kept calm. I can't believe I did it but I kept my cool. Somewhere in all this today I learned a lesson. I'm not sure what that lesson is, but when I figure it out, I'll let you know.Hugs,Teri From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca> Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 12:35:01 AMSubject: Re: [ ] ny - Hospital Hygiene.. or lack thereof and the infamous coke straw.

TeriWell the words "Screw Guilt" aren't exactly mine - I got them from a bumper sticker that was sold to many AA members (I just missed getting one). But, I believe that it is apropos for so many things in our lives. Screwing up is human, constantly lashing our own backs is not going to fix it!!During my active alcoholic days, I screwed up just about everything that it was possible to do. Now, in my sober years, I learned to turn those into experiences, that I never want to repeat. I can't undo them; but, I can learn from the mistakes.I would constantly ask myself a question in my early days of AA - why me?? An older timer once answered - why not?? However, actually I do not give a thought to

that question any more at all. For me it is a moot point. I am an alcoholic without reservation in my soul. But, because of the 12 steps, the fellowship and a Higher Power of my own understanding - I don't need to repeat the behaviour that made me feel shame.I feel the exact same way about HepC !!! In fact, I'll bet it wouldn't take me long at all to change a couple of words in the 12 steps to fit the changes we all have to face, living with HepC. The only thing is - a great deal of those that have already been diagnosed, became willing to face their addictions and already go to 12 step meetings.It may turn out that even drug addiction is not how a person picked up their infection. Certainly, none of us were infected with the virus because we had a drink. However, the fact remains, that to drink will surely eventually kill the person with the virus. So, it just plain old doesn't make any

sense to do anything additively. That includes prescription or OTC drugs. In fact, I even believe that doing vitamins and supplements in large doses, will also come back to hurt the body.Gloria

ny,When you work in an ER you see all sorts of things that would make you not want to ever be a patient. You also see some amazing cases come thru.. and some pretty hysterical ones as well. As for my ex, he's as mean as they come so it's okay. The doc found the bacteria after I told him the trick. He was barking up the right tree he just wasn't finishing what he started. And he had no clue either. I'm telling you, the docs are nowhere without the Lab providing them with the information they need to diagnose. The lab actually knows what the patient has before the doctor does. That was the cool part. The diagnosing. Loved working in the lab. Miss

it.That story with the straw, heck, I did it too. But here's the thing. And this goes for everyone. How we got this God forsaken virus doesn't matter. EVER. I've seen people get eaten up with guilt over how they got it. At this point, you have it and that is what needs to be dealt with. The added guilt is just going to add stress and make you sicker. In Gloria's words "Screw Guilt" I think those were her words... If not I am claiming brain fog. What matters is that we are treating our bodies correctly now that we know we have it and we are getting treatment if it is a possibility for us. If it is not a possibility or we have gone thru treatment and not achieved SVR, then what matters is that we do our best to keep our livers as healthy as we can for as long as we can.

Hugs,TeriFrom: Barrett <barrjohnm (DOT) com> Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 7:04:56 AMSubject: Re: [ ] Fustrated

Hi Teri,thanks. I guess never working in a hospital, I thought they were much cleaner. I guess the ER does not have time between people to clean everything. That is a horrible story about your ex getting a staph infection for being in the hospital for his heart, and the doc could not find the bacteria.yikes, I lived that story for years with the straw. maybe that is how I got Hep C, but I really have no idea how I did, there are lots of maybes, but I am just treating now, so it does not matter how it came in me, just it is important how I get it out of me.thanks,Hugs, ny

[Guest guest]

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Patti L <pattilbear@...> wrote:

> How do you stop from feeling guilty when all you want to do is spend a

> sunday watching tv, crocheting, and basically lounging around. there are so

> many " shoulds " running around my brain. but i want to veg out without

> feeling guilty.

>

> Patti

>

How much stuff do you do during the week? Work, taking care of

husband and/or kids, household chores. Don't you DESERVE a day off?

Eldred

--

The person who says something is impossible should not interrupt the

person who is doing it.

[Guest guest]

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Patti L <pattilbear@...> wrote:

> How do you stop from feeling guilty when all you want to do is spend a

> sunday watching tv, crocheting, and basically lounging around. there are so

> many " shoulds " running around my brain. but i want to veg out without

> feeling guilty.

>

> Patti

>

How much stuff do you do during the week? Work, taking care of

husband and/or kids, household chores. Don't you DESERVE a day off?

Eldred

--

The person who says something is impossible should not interrupt the

person who is doing it.