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Pat,

thanks so much!!! DH and I have been thinking of slowly taking J off of the Zpraxa and seeing him without a med for a bit and seeing how he acts. J has been on a med for so long........Since he was about 12.

J was taking 5mg of zpraxa at night and a half of one in the morning. We stopped the morning one about a week ago and he is doing pretty good with out it. The day program said he had a great day today. They do so well with him. I was so worried about him leaving school BUT he has nice people working with him. ((HUGS)) Lois

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So glad to hear this...sad that he is going through it, but happy that so far it seems to be OK...blessings.

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Pat,

thanks so much!!! DH and I have been thinking of slowly taking J off of the Zpraxa and seeing him without a med for a bit and seeing how he acts. J has been on a med for so long........ Since he was about 12.

J was taking 5mg of zpraxa at night and a half of one in the morning. We stopped the morning one about a week ago and he is doing pretty good with out it. The day program said he had a great day today. They do so well with him. I was so worried about him leaving school BUT he has nice people working with him. ((HUGS)) Lois

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So glad to hear this...sad that he is going through it, but happy that so far it seems to be OK...blessings.

e

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Pat,

thanks so much!!! DH and I have been thinking of slowly taking J off of the Zpraxa and seeing him without a med for a bit and seeing how he acts. J has been on a med for so long........ Since he was about 12.

J was taking 5mg of zpraxa at night and a half of one in the morning. We stopped the morning one about a week ago and he is doing pretty good with out it. The day program said he had a great day today. They do so well with him. I was so worried about him leaving school BUT he has nice people working with him. ((HUGS)) Lois

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Lois, I'm so glad J had a great day today, and that he has nice people working with him. It

sounds like you have a good husband too. J is blessed. I'm going to pray that the sugar levels

come down and that the slow withdrawal will not be too hard on J or you. Love and blessings, Pat K

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Pat,

thanks so much!!! DH and I have been thinking of slowly taking J off of the Zpraxa and seeing him without a med for a bit and seeing how he acts. J has been on a med for so long........Since he was about 12.

J was taking 5mg of zpraxa at night and a half of one in the morning. We stopped the morning one about a week ago and he is doing pretty good with out it. The day program said he had a great day today. They do so well with him. I was so worried about him leaving school BUT he has nice people working with him. ((HUGS)) Lois

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Lois, I'm so glad J had a great day today, and that he has nice people working with him. It

sounds like you have a good husband too. J is blessed. I'm going to pray that the sugar levels

come down and that the slow withdrawal will not be too hard on J or you. Love and blessings, Pat K

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Pat,

thanks so much!!! DH and I have been thinking of slowly taking J off of the Zpraxa and seeing him without a med for a bit and seeing how he acts. J has been on a med for so long........Since he was about 12.

J was taking 5mg of zpraxa at night and a half of one in the morning. We stopped the morning one about a week ago and he is doing pretty good with out it. The day program said he had a great day today. They do so well with him. I was so worried about him leaving school BUT he has nice people working with him. ((HUGS)) Lois

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We lowered J's night pill down to ahalf a tab last night. J did pretty well today. They said he did pretty good at the day program. We see the Dr. on Monday. Lois

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I'll be interested in what the doctor says. How is J doing with drinking less soda? Pat K

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We lowered J's night pill down to ahalf a tab last night. J did pretty well today. They said he did pretty good at the day program. We see the Dr. on Monday. Lois

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I will keep you posted on the Dr. J is "still" drinking soda but watered down. He is doing pretty good with it. I went to the store yesterday and found some pop in the organic ale BUT it is 4.00 for 6 cans! I can't affored that........I got 2 6 packs to see if he will drink it.....he will but I am still watering down the 2 liter bottles too. Lois

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Lois,

I will keep you and J in my prayers. I can imagine it is hard for him not to drink soda. I have also looked at the organic drinks and they are expensive. This may have been said already, but will he drink flavored water? I don't know if it comes in a can or not.

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no, I can't get him to drink flavored water. i wish I could find it in the can. I don;t know if they do or not. I have never seen it. I think he would try it if it was in a can. Lois

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Well,if J is drinking his sodas watered down; then you have made progress. I pray you both

have a good night's sleep. Pat K

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I will keep you posted on the Dr. J is "still" drinking soda but watered down. He is doing pretty good with it. I went to the store yesterday and found some pop in the organic ale BUT it is 4.00 for 6 cans! I can't affored that........I got 2 6 packs to see if he will drink it.....he will but I am still watering down the 2 liter bottles too. Lois

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Thanks Pat,J was up douring the night......Peeing and drinking. They said he had a good day today at the day program. He got a half a dose of med last night. I hope he does ok going off of it. I see the Dr. Monday. Lois

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No aggression? So far so good. Still praying. Pat K

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Thanks Pat,J was up douring the night......Peeing and drinking. They said he had a good day today at the day program. He got a half a dose of med last night. I hope he does ok going off of it. I see the Dr. Monday. Lois

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No aggression? So far so good. Still praying. Pat K

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Thanks Pat,J was up douring the night......Peeing and drinking. They said he had a good day today at the day program. He got a half a dose of med last night. I hope he does ok going off of it. I see the Dr. Monday. Lois

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Pat,

They said he had a good day again. We went to pay some bills after his day progeam today abd he got a little ansy. He gets a small dose of Atiavin around 3pm and we hadn't gotten back in time to get it. He is on the couch resting now. Lois

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Oh, I think the Ativan should be very good in helping J get through the withdrawal. You are such a good mother!!

I keep praying for you and J every day. I know you are going to get through this and J is going to do well. How

could he do otherwise with your help and God's. Love and blessings, Pat K

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Pat,

They said he had a good day again. We went to pay some bills after his day progeam today abd he got a little ansy. He gets a small dose of Atiavin around 3pm and we hadn't gotten back in time to get it. He is on the couch resting now. Lois

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Oh, I think the Ativan should be very good in helping J get through the withdrawal. You are such a good mother!!

I keep praying for you and J every day. I know you are going to get through this and J is going to do well. How

could he do otherwise with your help and God's. Love and blessings, Pat K

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Pat,

They said he had a good day again. We went to pay some bills after his day progeam today abd he got a little ansy. He gets a small dose of Atiavin around 3pm and we hadn't gotten back in time to get it. He is on the couch resting now. Lois

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They went for a walk with Kali and the baby in a stroller. Everything was fine until his 11 year old sister wanted to take the baby out of

the stroller and carry him. I can't imagine DIL letting tiny sister carry heavy 20lb. baby. Obviously, Karac didn't think she should take Ayden out of the stroller and he lunged at her and she fell and dropped the baby. Ayden wasn't hurt and neither was little sister.

Why wouldn't DIL know that Karac would think that the baby belonged in the stroller? Karac felt bad and everyone was mad at Karac, but everyone got over it; however, DIL said, that she is putting Karac in an institution when he turns 18 next summer before he even goes to the 12 grade and that makes me so sad because Karac is such a sweet kid who never intentionally hurts anyone.

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Pat,

I hope Karac is doing better. What set him off? Lois

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Hi e,

When had the flu all he had was a fever and cough, no sneezes.

It sounds like has one of those really nasty, change of season, change of weather, colds.

Healthy thoughts and healing prayers going his way.

Did you manage to do something calming for you?

> >

> > 's sick today --- real yucky kind of cold like sick ;( Poor little guy. So far I hope it isn't the flu --- he was sneezing yesterday; usually sneezing doesn't go with the flu ---- more like a cold I hope. Low grade fever thankfully ---

> >

> > Yesterday was awful and now I know why :) ---

> >

> > Could use some mommy and kid prayers today :)

> >

> > e

> >

>

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lois, thatns good news that he is drinking watered down soda. Definitely better

than full fledge soda. great job!

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I will keep you posted on the Dr. J is " still " drinking soda but watered down.

He is doing pretty good with it. I went to the store yesterday and found some

pop in the organic ale BUT it is 4.00 for 6 cans! I can't affored that........I

got 2 6 packs to see if he will drink it.....he will but I am still watering

down the 2 liter bottles too. Lois

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Pat, my heart goes out to you and karac. I wish your DIL would take cues from

karac better like you

Mentioned.

Im sure your DIL was just saying about putting him in an institution when he's

18 because she is fustrated and doesnt know how else to cope with the future.

But what she didnt at that particular moment was that she has an awesome MIL

that helps so much. Hang in there, hun.

They went for a walk with Kali and the baby in a stroller.? Everything was fine

until his 11 year old sister wanted to take the baby out of

the stroller and carry him.? I can't imagine DIL letting tiny sister carry heavy

20lb. baby.? Obviously, Karac didn't think she should take Ayden out of the

stroller and he lunged at her and she fell and dropped the baby.? Ayden wasn't

hurt and neither was little sister.

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Pat, my heart goes out to you and karac. I wish your DIL would take cues from

karac better like you

Mentioned.

Im sure your DIL was just saying about putting him in an institution when he's

18 because she is fustrated and doesnt know how else to cope with the future.

But what she didnt at that particular moment was that she has an awesome MIL

that helps so much. Hang in there, hun.

They went for a walk with Kali and the baby in a stroller.? Everything was fine

until his 11 year old sister wanted to take the baby out of

the stroller and carry him.? I can't imagine DIL letting tiny sister carry heavy

20lb. baby.? Obviously, Karac didn't think she should take Ayden out of the

stroller and he lunged at her and she fell and dropped the baby.? Ayden wasn't

hurt and neither was little sister.

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Oh, Pat K...I'm sorry about this. In a way, I think she's looking for reasons to put him away...she just can't deal with him...it's so sad....I will pray as God knows best --- Mom's and Grandma's are always best :) So my prayer is that God will change her heart in a BIG way!

God love you and that sweet boy of yours...glad Ayden is OK ;)

e

From: "pkuenstler@..." <pkuenstler@...>autism Sent: Sat, October 3, 2009 10:47:27 AMSubject: Re: Re: Lois

They went for a walk with Kali and the baby in a stroller. Everything was fine until his 11 year old sister wanted to take the baby out of

the stroller and carry him. I can't imagine DIL letting tiny sister carry heavy 20lb. baby. Obviously, Karac didn't think she should take Ayden out of the stroller and he lunged at her and she fell and dropped the baby. Ayden wasn't hurt and neither was little sister.

Why wouldn't DIL know that Karac would think that the baby belonged in the stroller? Karac felt bad and everyone was mad at Karac, but everyone got over it; however, DIL said, that she is putting Karac in an institution when he turns 18 next summer before he even goes to the 12 grade and that makes me so sad because Karac is such a sweet kid who never intentionally hurts anyone.

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Pat,

I hope Karac is doing better. What set him off? Lois

Re: Hard morning :)

Hi e,When had the flu all he had was a fever and cough, no sneezes.It sounds like has one of those really nasty, change of season, change of weather, colds.Healthy thoughts and healing prayers going his way.Did you manage to do something calming for you?> >> > 's sick today --- real yucky kind of cold like sick ;( Poor little

guy. So far I hope it isn't the flu --- he was sneezing yesterday; usually sneezing doesn't go with the flu ---- more like a cold I hope. Low grade fever thankfully --- > > > > Yesterday was awful and now I know why :) --- > > > > Could use some mommy and kid prayers today :)> > > > e> >>

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Oh, Pat K...I'm sorry about this. In a way, I think she's looking for reasons to put him away...she just can't deal with him...it's so sad....I will pray as God knows best --- Mom's and Grandma's are always best :) So my prayer is that God will change her heart in a BIG way!

God love you and that sweet boy of yours...glad Ayden is OK ;)

e

From: "pkuenstler@..." <pkuenstler@...>autism Sent: Sat, October 3, 2009 10:47:27 AMSubject: Re: Re: Lois

They went for a walk with Kali and the baby in a stroller. Everything was fine until his 11 year old sister wanted to take the baby out of

the stroller and carry him. I can't imagine DIL letting tiny sister carry heavy 20lb. baby. Obviously, Karac didn't think she should take Ayden out of the stroller and he lunged at her and she fell and dropped the baby. Ayden wasn't hurt and neither was little sister.

Why wouldn't DIL know that Karac would think that the baby belonged in the stroller? Karac felt bad and everyone was mad at Karac, but everyone got over it; however, DIL said, that she is putting Karac in an institution when he turns 18 next summer before he even goes to the 12 grade and that makes me so sad because Karac is such a sweet kid who never intentionally hurts anyone.

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Pat,

I hope Karac is doing better. What set him off? Lois

Re: Hard morning :)

Hi e,When had the flu all he had was a fever and cough, no sneezes.It sounds like has one of those really nasty, change of season, change of weather, colds.Healthy thoughts and healing prayers going his way.Did you manage to do something calming for you?> >> > 's sick today --- real yucky kind of cold like sick ;( Poor little

guy. So far I hope it isn't the flu --- he was sneezing yesterday; usually sneezing doesn't go with the flu ---- more like a cold I hope. Low grade fever thankfully --- > > > > Yesterday was awful and now I know why :) --- > > > > Could use some mommy and kid prayers today :)> > > > e> >>

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Please do pray. I think it will be more than I can bear. Thanks for your prayers. I am so thankful that there

are such good loving mothers and grandmothers on this list. Love and blessings, Pat K

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Pat,

I hope Karac is doing better. What set him off? Lois

Re: Hard morning :)

Hi e,

When had the flu all he had was a fever and cough, no sneezes.

It sounds like has one of those really nasty, change of season, change of weather, colds.

Healthy thoughts and healing prayers going his way.

Did you manage to do something calming for you?

> >

> > 's sick today --- real yucky kind of cold like sick ;( Poor little guy. So far I hope it isn't the flu --- he was sneezing yesterday; usually sneezing doesn't go with the flu ---- more like a cold I hope. Low grade fever thankfully ---

> >

> > Yesterday was awful and now I know why :) ---

> >

> > Could use some mommy and kid prayers today :)

> >

> > e

> >

>

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Please do pray. I think it will be more than I can bear. Thanks for your prayers. I am so thankful that there

are such good loving mothers and grandmothers on this list. Love and blessings, Pat K

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Pat,

I hope Karac is doing better. What set him off? Lois

Re: Hard morning :)

Hi e,

When had the flu all he had was a fever and cough, no sneezes.

It sounds like has one of those really nasty, change of season, change of weather, colds.

Healthy thoughts and healing prayers going his way.

Did you manage to do something calming for you?

> >

> > 's sick today --- real yucky kind of cold like sick ;( Poor little guy. So far I hope it isn't the flu --- he was sneezing yesterday; usually sneezing doesn't go with the flu ---- more like a cold I hope. Low grade fever thankfully ---

> >

> > Yesterday was awful and now I know why :) ---

> >

> > Could use some mommy and kid prayers today :)

> >

> > e

> >

>

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