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And this is why I would want to do my own research for these natural products!!! I know for sure that I have taken at least a couple of these herbs for reasons other than my liver, so now I have to wonder if they contributed to the extent of my liver damage.Gloria

HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITISAs mentioned previously, the mere fact that herbs are natural does not mean that they are harmless. In fact, there have been many reports of people suffering serious health problems or even dying as a result of their use of herbal remedies. Since everything that enters the mouth is metabolized through the liver, the liver is a prime target for the toxic effects of some herbs. People with normal functioning livers and no history of prior liver disease have suffered adverse consequences to the liver as a result of taking certain herbs. Obviously, the potential for adverse consequences in people with liver disease is greatly increased. Remember, it is the liver's job to rid the body of potentially harmful substances. A liver that is already damaged will have to work overtime to clear a toxic herb from the body. Quite obviously, it is inadvisable to subject a poorly functioning liver to this type of stress. A doctor, unaware that a patient with liver disease has taken herbal remedies, or unaware of the hepatotoxic effects of certain herbal remedies, may attribute any worsening of the patient's condition to the natural course of the liver disease.The following is a brief discussion of some of the herbs that have been determined to be dangerous to the liver along with an extensive list of herbs that have been linked to hepatitis, liver damage, and liver failure. Although not proven, it appears that women appear to be more susceptible to herbal- induced liver disease than men. Also, some significant drug-herb interactions specifically relevant to people with liver disease are discussed. In general, a key point to keep in mind is that any herb containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids is potentially hepatotoxic (toxic to the liver). Hepatotoxicity due to pyrrolizidine- containing herbs can result from either small amounts ingested over long periods of time or from large amounts ingested over a short period of time. Pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been found in approximately 350 different plant species. The most toxic of these has been noted to be from the senecio, heliotropium, crotalaria, and symphytium species. Pyrrolizidine poisoning is common in Africa and Jamaica, two areas of the world where herbal teas containing this substance are consumed as folk remedies for a number of ailments. The pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been associated with a severe type of liver disorder known as veno-occlusive disease. In this disease, the hepatic vein becomes clogged, blocking off the blood supply to the liver. This can result in abdominal pain, vomiting, ascites, hepatomegaly (an enlarged liver), edema (leg swelling), cirrhosis, liver failure, and even death due to extensive liver damage.The most well-established example of a liver-toxic pyrrolizidine alkaloid-containing herb is comfrey (Symphytum officinale). Comfrey has been used to relieve joint and stomach aches and is commercially available as a tea or in tablet or capsule form in the United States. Many herbal preparations that contain a mixture of herbs include comfrey, but due to the lack of labeling regulations of herbal products, comfrey may or may not be listed as an ingredient on these products.Germander, an herb marketed as safe and natural, was at one time widely used in France as a weight-loss remedy. Since 1992, this herb has been banned from the French market because it was discovered to be the cause of twenty-six cases of severe hepatitis. Additional cases of hepatitis due to germander were also reported in Canada. It is thought that the diterpenoid content of germander is the culprit causing hepatotoxicity.Chaparral, an herb proclaimed to be an aging retardant, has been reported to cause jaundice, fulminant hepatitis, and liver damage. In one reported case, the damage was so extensive that the patient required a liver transplant. Jin Bu Huan, typically used as an herbal sedative, has been reported to cause acute hepatitis. Some herbs may be dangerous to ingest while pregnant. In fact, death of a newborn baby was reported in a woman who consumed a hepatotoxic herbal preparation during pregnancy.The above are just a few examples of herbs that have led to liver damage, which is often permanent and occasionally fatal, though sometimes reversible. The following is a list of herbs that are known to have caused liver problems. Although this is long, it cannot be considered complete due to unreported data. Herbs that have been associated with liver disease include the following:- Black Cohosh. Buckthorn (Rhamnus cathartica).- Callilepsis laureola ( Impila)- Cascara Sagrada- Celandine ( also known as greater celandine) (Chelidonium majus). Chaparral (also known as creosote bush or greasewood) (Larrea taridentata) .. Comfrey and other herbs containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids (heliotropium, senecio, crotalaria, symphytum)- Doxidan ( Danthron 1,8-hydroxyanthroqu inone and dioctyl calcium sulfosuccinate). Germander (Teucrium chamaedrys).- Green tea leaf. Groundsel (Senecio vulgaris).- Impila root. Jin Bu Huan.- Kava ( also known as kava kava or Piper methysticum)- Kombucha. Lobelia (Lobelia inflata).. Ma huang (ephedra).. Mate (also known as paraquay tea) (Ilex paraguariensis) .. Mistletoe (Viscum album).. Nutmeg (Myristica fragrans).. Pau d'arco (La pachol).. Pennyroyal (Mentha pulegium).. Poke root (Phytolacca americana).. Ragwort (Senecio jacoboea).. Sarsparilla (Smilax species).. Sassafras (Sassafras albidum).. Saw palmetto - the main ingredient of the herbal preparation known as "Prostata".. Senna (Casio acutifolia).. Skullcap (Scutellaria laterifolia) .- Soy phytoestrogen. Sweet clover (Melilotus officinalis) .. Tansy (Tanacetum vulgare).. T'u-san-chi.. Valerian (Valeriana offinalis).. Woodruff (Galium odorata).. Certain Chinese herbal formulas-typically a complex mixture of a variety of different herbs.. Herbal preparations containing the recreational drug "ecstasy" (3,4-Methylenedioxy metamphetamine) . It is also important to be aware that there are many known drug-herb interactions of potential significance to a person with liver disease. For example garlic, ginko, dong quai danshen, devil's claw and papaya extract (papain) all may increase the tendency to bleed. Thus, people with liver disease undergoing a surgical procedure or any invasive procedure, such as a liver biopsy should be aware of this potential effect. Furthermore, people with esophageal varices may also be at increased risk for hemorrhage when taking these herbs. People who have had a liver transplant should avoid the herb St. 's wort. This herb may cause cyclosporine levels ( a medication used after transplantation to prevent rejection of the new liver) to decrease, thereby putting one at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver. As discussed in my book, licorice may reduce prednisone levels, thus putting a transplant recipient at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver.http://www.liverdis ease.com/ harmfulherbs_ hepatitis. html

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Hi Gloria

Every one of us has taken stuff that has damaged our livers.

Some things were ok yesterday, today we know better.

Thank God that medical science is looking into it, and informing us.

love

don in ks

From: Gloria <gadamscan@...>Subject: Re: [ ] HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITIS (repost) Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 8:12 PM

And this is why I would want to do my own research for these natural products!!! I know for sure that I have taken at least a couple of these herbs for reasons other than my liver, so now I have to wonder if they contributed to the extent of my liver damage.Gloria

HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITISAs mentioned previously, the mere fact that herbs are natural does not mean that they are harmless. In fact, there have been many reports of people suffering serious health problems or even dying as a result of their use of herbal remedies. Since everything that enters the mouth is metabolized through the liver, the liver is a prime target for the toxic effects of some herbs. People with normal functioning livers and no history of prior liver disease have suffered adverse consequences to the liver as a result of taking certain herbs. Obviously, the potential for adverse consequences in people with liver disease is greatly increased. Remember, it is the liver's job to rid the body of potentially harmful substances. A liver that is already damaged will have to work overtime to clear a toxic herb from the body. Quite obviously, it is inadvisable to subject a poorly functioning liver to this type

of stress. A doctor, unaware that a patient with liver disease has taken herbal remedies, or unaware of the hepatotoxic effects of certain herbal remedies, may attribute any worsening of the patient's condition to the natural course of the liver disease.The following is a brief discussion of some of the herbs that have been determined to be dangerous to the liver along with an extensive list of herbs that have been linked to hepatitis, liver damage, and liver failure. Although not proven, it appears that women appear to be more susceptible to herbal- induced liver disease than men. Also, some significant drug-herb interactions specifically relevant to people with liver disease are discussed. In general, a key point to keep in mind is that any herb containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids is potentially hepatotoxic (toxic to the liver). Hepatotoxicity due to pyrrolizidine- containing herbs can result from either small

amounts ingested over long periods of time or from large amounts ingested over a short period of time. Pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been found in approximately 350 different plant species. The most toxic of these has been noted to be from the senecio, heliotropium, crotalaria, and symphytium species. Pyrrolizidine poisoning is common in Africa and Jamaica, two areas of the world where herbal teas containing this substance are consumed as folk remedies for a number of ailments. The pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been associated with a severe type of liver disorder known as veno-occlusive disease. In this disease, the hepatic vein becomes clogged, blocking off the blood supply to the liver. This can result in abdominal pain, vomiting, ascites, hepatomegaly (an enlarged liver), edema (leg swelling), cirrhosis, liver failure, and even death due to extensive liver damage.The most well-established example of a liver-toxic pyrrolizidine

alkaloid-containing herb is comfrey (Symphytum officinale). Comfrey has been used to relieve joint and stomach aches and is commercially available as a tea or in tablet or capsule form in the United States. Many herbal preparations that contain a mixture of herbs include comfrey, but due to the lack of labeling regulations of herbal products, comfrey may or may not be listed as an ingredient on these products.Germander, an herb marketed as safe and natural, was at one time widely used in France as a weight-loss remedy. Since 1992, this herb has been banned from the French market because it was discovered to be the cause of twenty-six cases of severe hepatitis. Additional cases of hepatitis due to germander were also reported in Canada. It is thought that the diterpenoid content of germander is the culprit causing hepatotoxicity.Chaparral, an herb proclaimed to be an aging retardant, has been reported to cause jaundice, fulminant

hepatitis, and liver damage. In one reported case, the damage was so extensive that the patient required a liver transplant. Jin Bu Huan, typically used as an herbal sedative, has been reported to cause acute hepatitis. Some herbs may be dangerous to ingest while pregnant. In fact, death of a newborn baby was reported in a woman who consumed a hepatotoxic herbal preparation during pregnancy.The above are just a few examples of herbs that have led to liver damage, which is often permanent and occasionally fatal, though sometimes reversible. The following is a list of herbs that are known to have caused liver problems. Although this is long, it cannot be considered complete due to unreported data. Herbs that have been associated with liver disease include the following:- Black Cohosh. Buckthorn (Rhamnus cathartica).- Callilepsis laureola ( Impila)- Cascara Sagrada-

Celandine ( also known as greater celandine) (Chelidonium majus). Chaparral (also known as creosote bush or greasewood) (Larrea taridentata) .. Comfrey and other herbs containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids (heliotropium, senecio, crotalaria, symphytum)- Doxidan ( Danthron 1,8-hydroxyanthroqu inone and dioctyl calcium sulfosuccinate). Germander (Teucrium chamaedrys).- Green tea leaf. Groundsel (Senecio vulgaris).- Impila root. Jin Bu Huan.- Kava ( also known as kava kava or Piper methysticum)- Kombucha. Lobelia (Lobelia inflata).. Ma huang (ephedra).. Mate (also known as paraquay tea) (Ilex paraguariensis) .. Mistletoe (Viscum album).. Nutmeg (Myristica fragrans).. Pau d'arco (La pachol).. Pennyroyal (Mentha pulegium).. Poke root (Phytolacca americana).. Ragwort (Senecio

jacoboea).. Sarsparilla (Smilax species).. Sassafras (Sassafras albidum).. Saw palmetto - the main ingredient of the herbal preparation known as "Prostata".. Senna (Casio acutifolia).. Skullcap (Scutellaria laterifolia) .- Soy phytoestrogen. Sweet clover (Melilotus officinalis) .. Tansy (Tanacetum vulgare).. T'u-san-chi.. Valerian (Valeriana offinalis).. Woodruff (Galium odorata).. Certain Chinese herbal formulas-typically a complex mixture of a variety of different herbs.. Herbal preparations containing the recreational drug "ecstasy" (3,4-Methylenedioxy metamphetamine) . It is also important to be aware that there are many known drug-herb interactions of potential significance to a person with liver disease. For example garlic, ginko, dong quai danshen, devil's claw and papaya extract (papain) all may increase the

tendency to bleed. Thus, people with liver disease undergoing a surgical procedure or any invasive procedure, such as a liver biopsy should be aware of this potential effect. Furthermore, people with esophageal varices may also be at increased risk for hemorrhage when taking these herbs. People who have had a liver transplant should avoid the herb St. 's wort. This herb may cause cyclosporine levels ( a medication used after transplantation to prevent rejection of the new liver) to decrease, thereby putting one at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver. As discussed in my book, licorice may reduce prednisone levels, thus putting a transplant recipient at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver.http://www.liverdis ease.com/ harmfulherbs_ hepatitis. html

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DonTruthfully, the greatest harm I did to myself, was to drink alcoholically for 15 years. Thus, my liver was already damaged before I was given the gift of Hep C!! The only saving factor there, was that I did not learn about the Hep until I had been sober for over 15 years. Another thing that I did that sure didn't help, was that I became addicted to over the counter pain meds. As far as I was concerned, I suffered from headaches since I was about 17 and needed those pills. The last decade before being diagnosed, I always had Tylenol very near... My specialist asked me at one point, when it was that I learned I actually had the Tylenol headache. As I told him, I never was that bright - just that I wanted to prove that I'd had a false

positive diagnosis and really it was my Tylenol addiction that made me quit abusing them.Gloria

Hi Gloria

Every one of us has taken stuff that has damaged our livers.

Some things were ok yesterday, today we know better.

Thank God that medical science is looking into it, and informing us.

love

don in ks

From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca>Subject: Re: [ ] HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITIS (repost) Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 8:12 PM

And this is why I would want to do my own research for these natural products!!! I know for sure that I have taken at least a couple of these herbs for reasons other than my liver, so now I have to wonder if they contributed to the extent of my liver damage.Gloria

HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITISAs mentioned previously, the mere fact that herbs are natural does not mean that they are harmless. In fact, there have been many reports of people suffering serious health problems or even dying as a result of their use of herbal remedies. Since everything that enters the mouth is metabolized through the liver, the liver is a prime target for the toxic effects of some herbs. People with normal functioning livers and no history of prior liver disease have suffered adverse consequences to the liver as a result of taking certain herbs. Obviously, the potential for adverse consequences in people with liver disease is greatly increased. Remember, it is the liver's job to rid the body of potentially harmful substances. A liver that is already damaged will have to work overtime to clear a toxic herb from the body. Quite obviously, it is inadvisable to subject a poorly functioning liver to this type

of stress. A doctor, unaware that a patient with liver disease has taken herbal remedies, or unaware of the hepatotoxic effects of certain herbal remedies, may attribute any worsening of the patient's condition to the natural course of the liver disease.The following is a brief discussion of some of the herbs that have been determined to be dangerous to the liver along with an extensive list of herbs that have been linked to hepatitis, liver damage, and liver failure. Although not proven, it appears that women appear to be more susceptible to herbal- induced liver disease than men. Also, some significant drug-herb interactions specifically relevant to people with liver disease are discussed. In general, a key point to keep in mind is that any herb containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids is potentially hepatotoxic (toxic to the liver). Hepatotoxicity due to pyrrolizidine- containing herbs can result from either small

amounts ingested over long periods of time or from large amounts ingested over a short period of time. Pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been found in approximately 350 different plant species. The most toxic of these has been noted to be from the senecio, heliotropium, crotalaria, and symphytium species. Pyrrolizidine poisoning is common in Africa and Jamaica, two areas of the world where herbal teas containing this substance are consumed as folk remedies for a number of ailments. The pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been associated with a severe type of liver disorder known as veno-occlusive disease. In this disease, the hepatic vein becomes clogged, blocking off the blood supply to the liver. This can result in abdominal pain, vomiting, ascites, hepatomegaly (an enlarged liver), edema (leg swelling), cirrhosis, liver failure, and even death due to extensive liver damage.The most well-established example of a liver-toxic pyrrolizidine

alkaloid-containing herb is comfrey (Symphytum officinale). Comfrey has been used to relieve joint and stomach aches and is commercially available as a tea or in tablet or capsule form in the United States. Many herbal preparations that contain a mixture of herbs include comfrey, but due to the lack of labeling regulations of herbal products, comfrey may or may not be listed as an ingredient on these products.Germander, an herb marketed as safe and natural, was at one time widely used in France as a weight-loss remedy. Since 1992, this herb has been banned from the French market because it was discovered to be the cause of twenty-six cases of severe hepatitis. Additional cases of hepatitis due to germander were also reported in Canada. It is thought that the diterpenoid content of germander is the culprit causing hepatotoxicity.Chaparral, an herb proclaimed to be an aging retardant, has been reported to cause jaundice, fulminant

hepatitis, and liver damage. In one reported case, the damage was so extensive that the patient required a liver transplant. Jin Bu Huan, typically used as an herbal sedative, has been reported to cause acute hepatitis. Some herbs may be dangerous to ingest while pregnant. In fact, death of a newborn baby was reported in a woman who consumed a hepatotoxic herbal preparation during pregnancy.The above are just a few examples of herbs that have led to liver damage, which is often permanent and occasionally fatal, though sometimes reversible. The following is a list of herbs that are known to have caused liver problems. Although this is long, it cannot be considered complete due to unreported data. Herbs that have been associated with liver disease include the following:- Black Cohosh. Buckthorn (Rhamnus cathartica).- Callilepsis laureola ( Impila)- Cascara Sagrada-

Celandine ( also known as greater celandine) (Chelidonium majus). Chaparral (also known as creosote bush or greasewood) (Larrea taridentata) .. Comfrey and other herbs containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids (heliotropium, senecio, crotalaria, symphytum)- Doxidan ( Danthron 1,8-hydroxyanthroqu inone and dioctyl calcium sulfosuccinate). Germander (Teucrium chamaedrys).- Green tea leaf. Groundsel (Senecio vulgaris).- Impila root. Jin Bu Huan.- Kava ( also known as kava kava or Piper methysticum)- Kombucha. Lobelia (Lobelia inflata).. Ma huang (ephedra).. Mate (also known as paraquay tea) (Ilex paraguariensis) .. Mistletoe (Viscum album).. Nutmeg (Myristica fragrans).. Pau d'arco (La pachol).. Pennyroyal (Mentha pulegium).. Poke root (Phytolacca americana).. Ragwort (Senecio

jacoboea).. Sarsparilla (Smilax species).. Sassafras (Sassafras albidum).. Saw palmetto - the main ingredient of the herbal preparation known as "Prostata".. Senna (Casio acutifolia).. Skullcap (Scutellaria laterifolia) .- Soy phytoestrogen. Sweet clover (Melilotus officinalis) .. Tansy (Tanacetum vulgare).. T'u-san-chi.. Valerian (Valeriana offinalis).. Woodruff (Galium odorata).. Certain Chinese herbal formulas-typically a complex mixture of a variety of different herbs.. Herbal preparations containing the recreational drug "ecstasy" (3,4-Methylenedioxy metamphetamine) . It is also important to be aware that there are many known drug-herb interactions of potential significance to a person with liver disease. For example garlic, ginko, dong quai danshen, devil's claw and papaya extract (papain) all may increase the

tendency to bleed. Thus, people with liver disease undergoing a surgical procedure or any invasive procedure, such as a liver biopsy should be aware of this potential effect. Furthermore, people with esophageal varices may also be at increased risk for hemorrhage when taking these herbs. People who have had a liver transplant should avoid the herb St. 's wort. This herb may cause cyclosporine levels ( a medication used after transplantation to prevent rejection of the new liver) to decrease, thereby putting one at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver. As discussed in my book, licorice may reduce prednisone levels, thus putting a transplant recipient at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver.http://www.liverdis ease.com/ harmfulherbs_ hepatitis. html

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Hi Gloria

Most people dont realize that a person can be addicted to almost everything, not just to so called 'addictive drugs'.

For example I am addicted to sex, love, friends, air, water, food, sleep, my bed, sugar, tobacco, Glenn Beck on FOX news, , music, war movies, on and on.

Tylenol is addictive too.

Why?

It gives one RELIEF from pain, which is in itself addictive. [unless you are addicted to pain.]

Tylenol is really bad for ones liver, so they say.

I think the med community will one day realize that the so called 'cures', are themselves harmful.

What a mess. lol

love

don in ks

From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca>Subject: Re: [ ] HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITIS (repost) Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 8:12 PM

And this is why I would want to do my own research for these natural products!!! I know for sure that I have taken at least a couple of these herbs for reasons other than my liver, so now I have to wonder if they contributed to the extent of my liver damage.Gloria

HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITISAs mentioned previously, the mere fact that herbs are natural does not mean that they are harmless. In fact, there have been many reports of people suffering serious health problems or even dying as a result of their use of herbal remedies. Since everything that enters the mouth is metabolized through the liver, the liver is a prime target for the toxic effects of some herbs. People with normal functioning livers and no history of prior liver disease have suffered adverse consequences to the liver as a result of taking certain herbs. Obviously, the potential for adverse consequences in people with liver disease is greatly increased. Remember, it is the liver's job to rid the body of potentially harmful substances. A liver that is already damaged will have to work overtime to clear a toxic herb from the body. Quite obviously, it is inadvisable to subject a poorly functioning liver to this type

of stress. A doctor, unaware that a patient with liver disease has taken herbal remedies, or unaware of the hepatotoxic effects of certain herbal remedies, may attribute any worsening of the patient's condition to the natural course of the liver disease.The following is a brief discussion of some of the herbs that have been determined to be dangerous to the liver along with an extensive list of herbs that have been linked to hepatitis, liver damage, and liver failure. Although not proven, it appears that women appear to be more susceptible to herbal- induced liver disease than men. Also, some significant drug-herb interactions specifically relevant to people with liver disease are discussed. In general, a key point to keep in mind is that any herb containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids is potentially hepatotoxic (toxic to the liver). Hepatotoxicity due to pyrrolizidine- containing herbs can result from either small

amounts ingested over long periods of time or from large amounts ingested over a short period of time. Pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been found in approximately 350 different plant species. The most toxic of these has been noted to be from the senecio, heliotropium, crotalaria, and symphytium species. Pyrrolizidine poisoning is common in Africa and Jamaica, two areas of the world where herbal teas containing this substance are consumed as folk remedies for a number of ailments. The pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been associated with a severe type of liver disorder known as veno-occlusive disease. In this disease, the hepatic vein becomes clogged, blocking off the blood supply to the liver. This can result in abdominal pain, vomiting, ascites, hepatomegaly (an enlarged liver), edema (leg swelling), cirrhosis, liver failure, and even death due to extensive liver damage.The most well-established example of a liver-toxic pyrrolizidine

alkaloid-containing herb is comfrey (Symphytum officinale). Comfrey has been used to relieve joint and stomach aches and is commercially available as a tea or in tablet or capsule form in the United States. Many herbal preparations that contain a mixture of herbs include comfrey, but due to the lack of labeling regulations of herbal products, comfrey may or may not be listed as an ingredient on these products.Germander, an herb marketed as safe and natural, was at one time widely used in France as a weight-loss remedy. Since 1992, this herb has been banned from the French market because it was discovered to be the cause of twenty-six cases of severe hepatitis. Additional cases of hepatitis due to germander were also reported in Canada. It is thought that the diterpenoid content of germander is the culprit causing hepatotoxicity.Chaparral, an herb proclaimed to be an aging retardant, has been reported to cause jaundice, fulminant

hepatitis, and liver damage. In one reported case, the damage was so extensive that the patient required a liver transplant. Jin Bu Huan, typically used as an herbal sedative, has been reported to cause acute hepatitis. Some herbs may be dangerous to ingest while pregnant. In fact, death of a newborn baby was reported in a woman who consumed a hepatotoxic herbal preparation during pregnancy.The above are just a few examples of herbs that have led to liver damage, which is often permanent and occasionally fatal, though sometimes reversible. The following is a list of herbs that are known to have caused liver problems. Although this is long, it cannot be considered complete due to unreported data. Herbs that have been associated with liver disease include the following:- Black Cohosh. Buckthorn (Rhamnus cathartica).- Callilepsis laureola ( Impila)- Cascara Sagrada-

Celandine ( also known as greater celandine) (Chelidonium majus). Chaparral (also known as creosote bush or greasewood) (Larrea taridentata) .. Comfrey and other herbs containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids (heliotropium, senecio, crotalaria, symphytum)- Doxidan ( Danthron 1,8-hydroxyanthroqu inone and dioctyl calcium sulfosuccinate). Germander (Teucrium chamaedrys).- Green tea leaf. Groundsel (Senecio vulgaris).- Impila root. Jin Bu Huan.- Kava ( also known as kava kava or Piper methysticum)- Kombucha. Lobelia (Lobelia inflata).. Ma huang (ephedra).. Mate (also known as paraquay tea) (Ilex paraguariensis) .. Mistletoe (Viscum album).. Nutmeg (Myristica fragrans).. Pau d'arco (La pachol).. Pennyroyal (Mentha pulegium).. Poke root (Phytolacca americana).. Ragwort (Senecio

jacoboea).. Sarsparilla (Smilax species).. Sassafras (Sassafras albidum).. Saw palmetto - the main ingredient of the herbal preparation known as "Prostata".. Senna (Casio acutifolia).. Skullcap (Scutellaria laterifolia) .- Soy phytoestrogen. Sweet clover (Melilotus officinalis) .. Tansy (Tanacetum vulgare).. T'u-san-chi.. Valerian (Valeriana offinalis).. Woodruff (Galium odorata).. Certain Chinese herbal formulas-typically a complex mixture of a variety of different herbs.. Herbal preparations containing the recreational drug "ecstasy" (3,4-Methylenedioxy metamphetamine) . It is also important to be aware that there are many known drug-herb interactions of potential significance to a person with liver disease. For example garlic, ginko, dong quai danshen, devil's claw and papaya extract (papain) all may increase the

tendency to bleed. Thus, people with liver disease undergoing a surgical procedure or any invasive procedure, such as a liver biopsy should be aware of this potential effect. Furthermore, people with esophageal varices may also be at increased risk for hemorrhage when taking these herbs. People who have had a liver transplant should avoid the herb St. 's wort. This herb may cause cyclosporine levels ( a medication used after transplantation to prevent rejection of the new liver) to decrease, thereby putting one at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver. As discussed in my book, licorice may reduce prednisone levels, thus putting a transplant recipient at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver.http://www.liverdis ease.com/ harmfulherbs_ hepatitis. html

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You mean I can't have Green Tea daily? Oh noooo!

From: PeachStatePam <figment@...>Subject: [ ] HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITIS (repost)figment@...Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 6:15 PM

HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITISAs mentioned previously, the mere fact that herbs are natural does not mean that they are harmless. In fact, there have been many reports of people suffering serious health problems or even dying as a result of their use of herbal remedies. Since everything that enters the mouth is metabolized through the liver, the liver is a prime target for the toxic effects of some herbs. People with normal functioning livers and no history of prior liver disease have suffered adverse consequences to the liver as a result of taking certain herbs. Obviously, the potential for adverse consequences in people with liver disease is greatly increased. Remember, it is the liver's job to rid the body of potentially harmful substances. A liver that is already damaged will have to work overtime to clear a toxic herb from the body. Quite obviously, it is inadvisable to subject a poorly functioning liver to this type

of stress. A doctor, unaware that a patient with liver disease has taken herbal remedies, or unaware of the hepatotoxic effects of certain herbal remedies, may attribute any worsening of the patient's condition to the natural course of the liver disease.The following is a brief discussion of some of the herbs that have been determined to be dangerous to the liver along with an extensive list of herbs that have been linked to hepatitis, liver damage, and liver failure. Although not proven, it appears that women appear to be more susceptible to herbal- induced liver disease than men. Also, some significant drug-herb interactions specifically relevant to people with liver disease are discussed. In general, a key point to keep in mind is that any herb containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids is potentially hepatotoxic (toxic to the liver). Hepatotoxicity due to pyrrolizidine- containing herbs can result from either small

amounts ingested over long periods of time or from large amounts ingested over a short period of time. Pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been found in approximately 350 different plant species. The most toxic of these has been noted to be from the senecio, heliotropium, crotalaria, and symphytium species. Pyrrolizidine poisoning is common in Africa and Jamaica, two areas of the world where herbal teas containing this substance are consumed as folk remedies for a number of ailments. The pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been associated with a severe type of liver disorder known as veno-occlusive disease. In this disease, the hepatic vein becomes clogged, blocking off the blood supply to the liver. This can result in abdominal pain, vomiting, ascites, hepatomegaly (an enlarged liver), edema (leg swelling), cirrhosis, liver failure, and even death due to extensive liver damage.The most well-established example of a liver-toxic pyrrolizidine

alkaloid-containing herb is comfrey (Symphytum officinale). Comfrey has been used to relieve joint and stomach aches and is commercially available as a tea or in tablet or capsule form in the United States. Many herbal preparations that contain a mixture of herbs include comfrey, but due to the lack of labeling regulations of herbal products, comfrey may or may not be listed as an ingredient on these products.Germander, an herb marketed as safe and natural, was at one time widely used in France as a weight-loss remedy. Since 1992, this herb has been banned from the French market because it was discovered to be the cause of twenty-six cases of severe hepatitis. Additional cases of hepatitis due to germander were also reported in Canada. It is thought that the diterpenoid content of germander is the culprit causing hepatotoxicity.Chaparral, an herb proclaimed to be an aging retardant, has been reported to cause jaundice, fulminant

hepatitis, and liver damage. In one reported case, the damage was so extensive that the patient required a liver transplant. Jin Bu Huan, typically used as an herbal sedative, has been reported to cause acute hepatitis. Some herbs may be dangerous to ingest while pregnant. In fact, death of a newborn baby was reported in a woman who consumed a hepatotoxic herbal preparation during pregnancy.The above are just a few examples of herbs that have led to liver damage, which is often permanent and occasionally fatal, though sometimes reversible. The following is a list of herbs that are known to have caused liver problems. Although this is long, it cannot be considered complete due to unreported data. Herbs that have been associated with liver disease include the following:- Black Cohosh. Buckthorn (Rhamnus cathartica).- Callilepsis laureola ( Impila)- Cascara Sagrada-

Celandine ( also known as greater celandine) (Chelidonium majus). Chaparral (also known as creosote bush or greasewood) (Larrea taridentata) .. Comfrey and other herbs containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids (heliotropium, senecio, crotalaria, symphytum)- Doxidan ( Danthron 1,8-hydroxyanthroqu inone and dioctyl calcium sulfosuccinate). Germander (Teucrium chamaedrys).- Green tea leaf. Groundsel (Senecio vulgaris).- Impila root. Jin Bu Huan.- Kava ( also known as kava kava or Piper methysticum)- Kombucha. Lobelia (Lobelia inflata).. Ma huang (ephedra).. Mate (also known as paraquay tea) (Ilex paraguariensis) .. Mistletoe (Viscum album).. Nutmeg (Myristica fragrans).. Pau d'arco (La pachol).. Pennyroyal (Mentha pulegium).. Poke root (Phytolacca americana).. Ragwort (Senecio

jacoboea).. Sarsparilla (Smilax species).. Sassafras (Sassafras albidum).. Saw palmetto - the main ingredient of the herbal preparation known as "Prostata".. Senna (Casio acutifolia).. Skullcap (Scutellaria laterifolia) .- Soy phytoestrogen. Sweet clover (Melilotus officinalis) .. Tansy (Tanacetum vulgare).. T'u-san-chi.. Valerian (Valeriana offinalis).. Woodruff (Galium odorata).. Certain Chinese herbal formulas-typically a complex mixture of a variety of different herbs.. Herbal preparations containing the recreational drug "ecstasy" (3,4-Methylenedioxy metamphetamine) . It is also important to be aware that there are many known drug-herb interactions of potential significance to a person with liver disease. For example garlic, ginko, dong quai danshen, devil's claw and papaya extract (papain) all may increase the

tendency to bleed. Thus, people with liver disease undergoing a surgical procedure or any invasive procedure, such as a liver biopsy should be aware of this potential effect. Furthermore, people with esophageal varices may also be at increased risk for hemorrhage when taking these herbs. People who have had a liver transplant should avoid the herb St. 's wort. This herb may cause cyclosporine levels ( a medication used after transplantation to prevent rejection of the new liver) to decrease, thereby putting one at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver. As discussed in my book, licorice may reduce prednisone levels, thus putting a transplant recipient at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver.http://www.liverdis ease.com/ harmfulherbs_ hepatitis.

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DonAt an AA meeting, if you are asked to speak, you usually say - Hi my name is ________. an alcoholic. Well, of course we get the ones from a recovery centre that still think they have something more to prove than to just shut up and listen to the elder's tell you about their experience, strength and hope!! Most people seeking help today and probably since my generation, have of course, at least that dual addiction!! However, you simply don't expand on your own introduction.So, one night, while all these fellas from the recovery centre continued to come up with cute little phrases to identify themselves, when it was my turn - I told them that if I sat here giving the list of everything that I knew I'd been addicted to, never mind the ones I still haven't

learned about, we'd be here half the meeting, just for my introduction. However, that just using the word "alcoholic", covered all bases as far as I'm concerned.I obviously have the addiction gene as so many of us do!! The trick has always been to admit it, accept it and then work on doing something about it, if it causes you trouble in your life.Gloria

Hi Gloria

Most people dont realize that a person can be addicted to almost everything, not just to so called 'addictive drugs'.

For example I am addicted to sex, love, friends, air, water, food, sleep, my bed, sugar, tobacco, Glenn Beck on FOX news, , music, war movies, on and on.

Tylenol is addictive too.

Why?

It gives one RELIEF from pain, which is in itself addictive. [unless you are addicted to pain.]

Tylenol is really bad for ones liver, so they say.

I think the med community will one day realize that the so called 'cures', are themselves harmful.

What a mess. lol

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From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca>Subject: Re: [ ] HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITIS (repost) Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 8:12 PM

And this is why I would want to do my own research for these natural products!!! I know for sure that I have taken at least a couple of these herbs for reasons other than my liver, so now I have to wonder if they contributed to the extent of my liver damage.Gloria

HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITISAs mentioned previously, the mere fact that herbs are natural does not mean that they are harmless. In fact, there have been many reports of people suffering serious health problems or even dying as a result of their use of herbal remedies. Since everything that enters the mouth is metabolized through the liver, the liver is a prime target for the toxic effects of some herbs. People with normal functioning livers and no history of prior liver disease have suffered adverse consequences to the liver as a result of taking certain herbs. Obviously, the potential for adverse consequences in people with liver disease is greatly increased. Remember, it is the liver's job to rid the body of potentially harmful substances. A liver that is already damaged will have to work overtime to clear a toxic herb from the body. Quite obviously, it is inadvisable to subject a poorly functioning liver to this type

of stress. A doctor, unaware that a patient with liver disease has taken herbal remedies, or unaware of the hepatotoxic effects of certain herbal remedies, may attribute any worsening of the patient's condition to the natural course of the liver disease.The following is a brief discussion of some of the herbs that have been determined to be dangerous to the liver along with an extensive list of herbs that have been linked to hepatitis, liver damage, and liver failure. Although not proven, it appears that women appear to be more susceptible to herbal- induced liver disease than men. Also, some significant drug-herb interactions specifically relevant to people with liver disease are discussed. In general, a key point to keep in mind is that any herb containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids is potentially hepatotoxic (toxic to the liver). Hepatotoxicity due to pyrrolizidine- containing herbs can result from either small

amounts ingested over long periods of time or from large amounts ingested over a short period of time. Pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been found in approximately 350 different plant species. The most toxic of these has been noted to be from the senecio, heliotropium, crotalaria, and symphytium species. Pyrrolizidine poisoning is common in Africa and Jamaica, two areas of the world where herbal teas containing this substance are consumed as folk remedies for a number of ailments. The pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been associated with a severe type of liver disorder known as veno-occlusive disease. In this disease, the hepatic vein becomes clogged, blocking off the blood supply to the liver. This can result in abdominal pain, vomiting, ascites, hepatomegaly (an enlarged liver), edema (leg swelling), cirrhosis, liver failure, and even death due to extensive liver damage.The most well-established example of a liver-toxic pyrrolizidine

alkaloid-containing herb is comfrey (Symphytum officinale). Comfrey has been used to relieve joint and stomach aches and is commercially available as a tea or in tablet or capsule form in the United States. Many herbal preparations that contain a mixture of herbs include comfrey, but due to the lack of labeling regulations of herbal products, comfrey may or may not be listed as an ingredient on these products.Germander, an herb marketed as safe and natural, was at one time widely used in France as a weight-loss remedy. Since 1992, this herb has been banned from the French market because it was discovered to be the cause of twenty-six cases of severe hepatitis. Additional cases of hepatitis due to germander were also reported in Canada. It is thought that the diterpenoid content of germander is the culprit causing hepatotoxicity.Chaparral, an herb proclaimed to be an aging retardant, has been reported to cause jaundice, fulminant

hepatitis, and liver damage. In one reported case, the damage was so extensive that the patient required a liver transplant. Jin Bu Huan, typically used as an herbal sedative, has been reported to cause acute hepatitis. Some herbs may be dangerous to ingest while pregnant. In fact, death of a newborn baby was reported in a woman who consumed a hepatotoxic herbal preparation during pregnancy.The above are just a few examples of herbs that have led to liver damage, which is often permanent and occasionally fatal, though sometimes reversible. The following is a list of herbs that are known to have caused liver problems. Although this is long, it cannot be considered complete due to unreported data. Herbs that have been associated with liver disease include the following:- Black Cohosh. Buckthorn (Rhamnus cathartica).- Callilepsis laureola ( Impila)- Cascara Sagrada-

Celandine ( also known as greater celandine) (Chelidonium majus). Chaparral (also known as creosote bush or greasewood) (Larrea taridentata) .. Comfrey and other herbs containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids (heliotropium, senecio, crotalaria, symphytum)- Doxidan ( Danthron 1,8-hydroxyanthroqu inone and dioctyl calcium sulfosuccinate). Germander (Teucrium chamaedrys).- Green tea leaf. Groundsel (Senecio vulgaris).- Impila root. Jin Bu Huan.- Kava ( also known as kava kava or Piper methysticum)- Kombucha. Lobelia (Lobelia inflata).. Ma huang (ephedra).. Mate (also known as paraquay tea) (Ilex paraguariensis) .. Mistletoe (Viscum album).. Nutmeg (Myristica fragrans).. Pau d'arco (La pachol).. Pennyroyal (Mentha pulegium).. Poke root (Phytolacca americana).. Ragwort (Senecio

jacoboea).. Sarsparilla (Smilax species).. Sassafras (Sassafras albidum).. Saw palmetto - the main ingredient of the herbal preparation known as "Prostata".. Senna (Casio acutifolia).. Skullcap (Scutellaria laterifolia) .- Soy phytoestrogen. Sweet clover (Melilotus officinalis) .. Tansy (Tanacetum vulgare).. T'u-san-chi.. Valerian (Valeriana offinalis).. Woodruff (Galium odorata).. Certain Chinese herbal formulas-typically a complex mixture of a variety of different herbs.. Herbal preparations containing the recreational drug "ecstasy" (3,4-Methylenedioxy metamphetamine) . It is also important to be aware that there are many known drug-herb interactions of potential significance to a person with liver disease. For example garlic, ginko, dong quai danshen, devil's claw and papaya extract (papain) all may increase the

tendency to bleed. Thus, people with liver disease undergoing a surgical procedure or any invasive procedure, such as a liver biopsy should be aware of this potential effect. Furthermore, people with esophageal varices may also be at increased risk for hemorrhage when taking these herbs. People who have had a liver transplant should avoid the herb St. 's wort. This herb may cause cyclosporine levels ( a medication used after transplantation to prevent rejection of the new liver) to decrease, thereby putting one at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver. As discussed in my book, licorice may reduce prednisone levels, thus putting a transplant recipient at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver.http://www.liverdis ease.com/ harmfulherbs_ hepatitis. html

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Hi

Here is the search results for - hepatitis c and green tea.

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HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITISAs mentioned previously, the mere fact that herbs are natural does not mean that they are harmless. In fact, there have been many reports of people suffering serious health problems or even dying as a result of their use of herbal remedies. Since everything that enters the mouth is metabolized through the liver, the liver is a prime target for the toxic effects of some herbs. People with normal functioning livers and no history of prior liver disease have suffered adverse consequences to the liver as a result of taking certain herbs. Obviously, the potential for adverse consequences in people with liver disease is greatly increased. Remember, it is the liver's job to rid the body of potentially harmful substances. A liver that is already damaged will have to work overtime to clear a toxic herb from the body. Quite obviously, it is inadvisable to subject a poorly functioning liver to this type

of stress. A doctor, unaware that a patient with liver disease has taken herbal remedies, or unaware of the hepatotoxic effects of certain herbal remedies, may attribute any worsening of the patient's condition to the natural course of the liver disease.The following is a brief discussion of some of the herbs that have been determined to be dangerous to the liver along with an extensive list of herbs that have been linked to hepatitis, liver damage, and liver failure. Although not proven, it appears that women appear to be more susceptible to herbal- induced liver disease than men. Also, some significant drug-herb interactions specifically relevant to people with liver disease are discussed. In general, a key point to keep in mind is that any herb containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids is potentially hepatotoxic (toxic to the liver). Hepatotoxicity due to pyrrolizidine- containing herbs can result from either small

amounts ingested over long periods of time or from large amounts ingested over a short period of time. Pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been found in approximately 350 different plant species. The most toxic of these has been noted to be from the senecio, heliotropium, crotalaria, and symphytium species. Pyrrolizidine poisoning is common in Africa and Jamaica, two areas of the world where herbal teas containing this substance are consumed as folk remedies for a number of ailments. The pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been associated with a severe type of liver disorder known as veno-occlusive disease. In this disease, the hepatic vein becomes clogged, blocking off the blood supply to the liver. This can result in abdominal pain, vomiting, ascites, hepatomegaly (an enlarged liver), edema (leg swelling), cirrhosis, liver failure, and even death due to extensive liver damage.The most well-established example of a liver-toxic pyrrolizidine

alkaloid-containing herb is comfrey (Symphytum officinale). Comfrey has been used to relieve joint and stomach aches and is commercially available as a tea or in tablet or capsule form in the United States. Many herbal preparations that contain a mixture of herbs include comfrey, but due to the lack of labeling regulations of herbal products, comfrey may or may not be listed as an ingredient on these products.Germander, an herb marketed as safe and natural, was at one time widely used in France as a weight-loss remedy. Since 1992, this herb has been banned from the French market because it was discovered to be the cause of twenty-six cases of severe hepatitis. Additional cases of hepatitis due to germander were also reported in Canada. It is thought that the diterpenoid content of germander is the culprit causing hepatotoxicity.Chaparral, an herb proclaimed to be an aging retardant, has been reported to cause jaundice, fulminant

hepatitis, and liver damage. In one reported case, the damage was so extensive that the patient required a liver transplant. Jin Bu Huan, typically used as an herbal sedative, has been reported to cause acute hepatitis. Some herbs may be dangerous to ingest while pregnant. In fact, death of a newborn baby was reported in a woman who consumed a hepatotoxic herbal preparation during pregnancy.The above are just a few examples of herbs that have led to liver damage, which is often permanent and occasionally fatal, though sometimes reversible. The following is a list of herbs that are known to have caused liver problems. Although this is long, it cannot be considered complete due to unreported data. Herbs that have been associated with liver disease include the following:- Black Cohosh. Buckthorn (Rhamnus cathartica).- Callilepsis laureola ( Impila)- Cascara Sagrada-

Celandine ( also known as greater celandine) (Chelidonium majus). Chaparral (also known as creosote bush or greasewood) (Larrea taridentata) .. Comfrey and other herbs containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids (heliotropium, senecio, crotalaria, symphytum)- Doxidan ( Danthron 1,8-hydroxyanthroqu inone and dioctyl calcium sulfosuccinate). Germander (Teucrium chamaedrys).- Green tea leaf. Groundsel (Senecio vulgaris).- Impila root. Jin Bu Huan.- Kava ( also known as kava kava or Piper methysticum)- Kombucha. Lobelia (Lobelia inflata).. Ma huang (ephedra).. Mate (also known as paraquay tea) (Ilex paraguariensis) .. Mistletoe (Viscum album).. Nutmeg (Myristica fragrans).. Pau d'arco (La pachol).. Pennyroyal (Mentha pulegium).. Poke root (Phytolacca americana).. Ragwort (Senecio

jacoboea).. Sarsparilla (Smilax species).. Sassafras (Sassafras albidum).. Saw palmetto - the main ingredient of the herbal preparation known as "Prostata".. Senna (Casio acutifolia).. Skullcap (Scutellaria laterifolia) .- Soy phytoestrogen. Sweet clover (Melilotus officinalis) .. Tansy (Tanacetum vulgare).. T'u-san-chi.. Valerian (Valeriana offinalis).. Woodruff (Galium odorata).. Certain Chinese herbal formulas-typically a complex mixture of a variety of different herbs.. Herbal preparations containing the recreational drug "ecstasy" (3,4-Methylenedioxy metamphetamine) . It is also important to be aware that there are many known drug-herb interactions of potential significance to a person with liver disease. For example garlic, ginko, dong quai danshen, devil's claw and papaya extract (papain) all may increase the

tendency to bleed. Thus, people with liver disease undergoing a surgical procedure or any invasive procedure, such as a liver biopsy should be aware of this potential effect. Furthermore, people with esophageal varices may also be at increased risk for hemorrhage when taking these herbs. People who have had a liver transplant should avoid the herb St. 's wort. This herb may cause cyclosporine levels ( a medication used after transplantation to prevent rejection of the new liver) to decrease, thereby putting one at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver. As discussed in my book, licorice may reduce prednisone levels, thus putting a transplant recipient at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver.http://www.liverdis ease.com/ harmfulherbs_ hepatitis.

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Hi Gloria

I have never been to an AA meeting.

I have always kicked my problems cold turkey.

Your last paragraph is the key.

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don in ks

From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca>Subject: Re: [ ] HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITIS (repost) Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 8:12 PM

And this is why I would want to do my own research for these natural products!!! I know for sure that I have taken at least a couple of these herbs for reasons other than my liver, so now I have to wonder if they contributed to the extent of my liver damage.Gloria

HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITISAs mentioned previously, the mere fact that herbs are natural does not mean that they are harmless. In fact, there have been many reports of people suffering serious health problems or even dying as a result of their use of herbal remedies. Since everything that enters the mouth is metabolized through the liver, the liver is a prime target for the toxic effects of some herbs. People with normal functioning livers and no history of prior liver disease have suffered adverse consequences to the liver as a result of taking certain herbs. Obviously, the potential for adverse consequences in people with liver disease is greatly increased. Remember, it is the liver's job to rid the body of potentially harmful substances. A liver that is already damaged will have to work overtime to clear a toxic herb from the body. Quite obviously, it is inadvisable to subject a poorly functioning liver to this type

of stress. A doctor, unaware that a patient with liver disease has taken herbal remedies, or unaware of the hepatotoxic effects of certain herbal remedies, may attribute any worsening of the patient's condition to the natural course of the liver disease.The following is a brief discussion of some of the herbs that have been determined to be dangerous to the liver along with an extensive list of herbs that have been linked to hepatitis, liver damage, and liver failure. Although not proven, it appears that women appear to be more susceptible to herbal- induced liver disease than men. Also, some significant drug-herb interactions specifically relevant to people with liver disease are discussed. In general, a key point to keep in mind is that any herb containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids is potentially hepatotoxic (toxic to the liver). Hepatotoxicity due to pyrrolizidine- containing herbs can result from either small

amounts ingested over long periods of time or from large amounts ingested over a short period of time. Pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been found in approximately 350 different plant species. The most toxic of these has been noted to be from the senecio, heliotropium, crotalaria, and symphytium species. Pyrrolizidine poisoning is common in Africa and Jamaica, two areas of the world where herbal teas containing this substance are consumed as folk remedies for a number of ailments. The pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been associated with a severe type of liver disorder known as veno-occlusive disease. In this disease, the hepatic vein becomes clogged, blocking off the blood supply to the liver. This can result in abdominal pain, vomiting, ascites, hepatomegaly (an enlarged liver), edema (leg swelling), cirrhosis, liver failure, and even death due to extensive liver damage.The most well-established example of a liver-toxic pyrrolizidine

alkaloid-containing herb is comfrey (Symphytum officinale). Comfrey has been used to relieve joint and stomach aches and is commercially available as a tea or in tablet or capsule form in the United States. Many herbal preparations that contain a mixture of herbs include comfrey, but due to the lack of labeling regulations of herbal products, comfrey may or may not be listed as an ingredient on these products.Germander, an herb marketed as safe and natural, was at one time widely used in France as a weight-loss remedy. Since 1992, this herb has been banned from the French market because it was discovered to be the cause of twenty-six cases of severe hepatitis. Additional cases of hepatitis due to germander were also reported in Canada. It is thought that the diterpenoid content of germander is the culprit causing hepatotoxicity.Chaparral, an herb proclaimed to be an aging retardant, has been reported to cause jaundice, fulminant

hepatitis, and liver damage. In one reported case, the damage was so extensive that the patient required a liver transplant. Jin Bu Huan, typically used as an herbal sedative, has been reported to cause acute hepatitis. Some herbs may be dangerous to ingest while pregnant. In fact, death of a newborn baby was reported in a woman who consumed a hepatotoxic herbal preparation during pregnancy.The above are just a few examples of herbs that have led to liver damage, which is often permanent and occasionally fatal, though sometimes reversible. The following is a list of herbs that are known to have caused liver problems. Although this is long, it cannot be considered complete due to unreported data. Herbs that have been associated with liver disease include the following:- Black Cohosh. Buckthorn (Rhamnus cathartica).- Callilepsis laureola ( Impila)- Cascara Sagrada-

Celandine ( also known as greater celandine) (Chelidonium majus). Chaparral (also known as creosote bush or greasewood) (Larrea taridentata) .. Comfrey and other herbs containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids (heliotropium, senecio, crotalaria, symphytum)- Doxidan ( Danthron 1,8-hydroxyanthroqu inone and dioctyl calcium sulfosuccinate). Germander (Teucrium chamaedrys).- Green tea leaf. Groundsel (Senecio vulgaris).- Impila root. Jin Bu Huan.- Kava ( also known as kava kava or Piper methysticum)- Kombucha. Lobelia (Lobelia inflata).. Ma huang (ephedra).. Mate (also known as paraquay tea) (Ilex paraguariensis) .. Mistletoe (Viscum album).. Nutmeg (Myristica fragrans).. Pau d'arco (La pachol).. Pennyroyal (Mentha pulegium).. Poke root (Phytolacca americana).. Ragwort (Senecio

jacoboea).. Sarsparilla (Smilax species).. Sassafras (Sassafras albidum).. Saw palmetto - the main ingredient of the herbal preparation known as "Prostata".. Senna (Casio acutifolia).. Skullcap (Scutellaria laterifolia) .- Soy phytoestrogen. Sweet clover (Melilotus officinalis) .. Tansy (Tanacetum vulgare).. T'u-san-chi.. Valerian (Valeriana offinalis).. Woodruff (Galium odorata).. Certain Chinese herbal formulas-typically a complex mixture of a variety of different herbs.. Herbal preparations containing the recreational drug "ecstasy" (3,4-Methylenedioxy metamphetamine) . It is also important to be aware that there are many known drug-herb interactions of potential significance to a person with liver disease. For example garlic, ginko, dong quai danshen, devil's claw and papaya extract (papain) all may increase the

tendency to bleed. Thus, people with liver disease undergoing a surgical procedure or any invasive procedure, such as a liver biopsy should be aware of this potential effect. Furthermore, people with esophageal varices may also be at increased risk for hemorrhage when taking these herbs. People who have had a liver transplant should avoid the herb St. 's wort. This herb may cause cyclosporine levels ( a medication used after transplantation to prevent rejection of the new liver) to decrease, thereby putting one at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver. As discussed in my book, licorice may reduce prednisone levels, thus putting a transplant recipient at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver.http://www.liverdis ease.com/ harmfulherbs_ hepatitis. html

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Boy, for somebody that's never been to AA - you got a point that most newcomers will not get for a very long, painful time....Gloria

Hi Gloria

I have never been to an AA meeting.

I have always kicked my problems cold turkey.

Your last paragraph is the key.

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don in ks

From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca>Subject: Re: [ ] HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITIS (repost) Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 8:12 PM

And this is why I would want to do my own research for these natural products!!! I know for sure that I have taken at least a couple of these herbs for reasons other than my liver, so now I have to wonder if they contributed to the extent of my liver damage.Gloria

HERBS THAT MAY HARM THE LIVER OR CAUSE HEPATITISAs mentioned previously, the mere fact that herbs are natural does not mean that they are harmless. In fact, there have been many reports of people suffering serious health problems or even dying as a result of their use of herbal remedies. Since everything that enters the mouth is metabolized through the liver, the liver is a prime target for the toxic effects of some herbs. People with normal functioning livers and no history of prior liver disease have suffered adverse consequences to the liver as a result of taking certain herbs. Obviously, the potential for adverse consequences in people with liver disease is greatly increased. Remember, it is the liver's job to rid the body of potentially harmful substances. A liver that is already damaged will have to work overtime to clear a toxic herb from the body. Quite obviously, it is inadvisable to subject a poorly functioning liver to this type

of stress. A doctor, unaware that a patient with liver disease has taken herbal remedies, or unaware of the hepatotoxic effects of certain herbal remedies, may attribute any worsening of the patient's condition to the natural course of the liver disease.The following is a brief discussion of some of the herbs that have been determined to be dangerous to the liver along with an extensive list of herbs that have been linked to hepatitis, liver damage, and liver failure. Although not proven, it appears that women appear to be more susceptible to herbal- induced liver disease than men. Also, some significant drug-herb interactions specifically relevant to people with liver disease are discussed. In general, a key point to keep in mind is that any herb containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids is potentially hepatotoxic (toxic to the liver). Hepatotoxicity due to pyrrolizidine- containing herbs can result from either small

amounts ingested over long periods of time or from large amounts ingested over a short period of time. Pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been found in approximately 350 different plant species. The most toxic of these has been noted to be from the senecio, heliotropium, crotalaria, and symphytium species. Pyrrolizidine poisoning is common in Africa and Jamaica, two areas of the world where herbal teas containing this substance are consumed as folk remedies for a number of ailments. The pyrrolizidine alkaloids have been associated with a severe type of liver disorder known as veno-occlusive disease. In this disease, the hepatic vein becomes clogged, blocking off the blood supply to the liver. This can result in abdominal pain, vomiting, ascites, hepatomegaly (an enlarged liver), edema (leg swelling), cirrhosis, liver failure, and even death due to extensive liver damage.The most well-established example of a liver-toxic pyrrolizidine

alkaloid-containing herb is comfrey (Symphytum officinale). Comfrey has been used to relieve joint and stomach aches and is commercially available as a tea or in tablet or capsule form in the United States. Many herbal preparations that contain a mixture of herbs include comfrey, but due to the lack of labeling regulations of herbal products, comfrey may or may not be listed as an ingredient on these products.Germander, an herb marketed as safe and natural, was at one time widely used in France as a weight-loss remedy. Since 1992, this herb has been banned from the French market because it was discovered to be the cause of twenty-six cases of severe hepatitis. Additional cases of hepatitis due to germander were also reported in Canada. It is thought that the diterpenoid content of germander is the culprit causing hepatotoxicity.Chaparral, an herb proclaimed to be an aging retardant, has been reported to cause jaundice, fulminant

hepatitis, and liver damage. In one reported case, the damage was so extensive that the patient required a liver transplant. Jin Bu Huan, typically used as an herbal sedative, has been reported to cause acute hepatitis. Some herbs may be dangerous to ingest while pregnant. In fact, death of a newborn baby was reported in a woman who consumed a hepatotoxic herbal preparation during pregnancy.The above are just a few examples of herbs that have led to liver damage, which is often permanent and occasionally fatal, though sometimes reversible. The following is a list of herbs that are known to have caused liver problems. Although this is long, it cannot be considered complete due to unreported data. Herbs that have been associated with liver disease include the following:- Black Cohosh. Buckthorn (Rhamnus cathartica).- Callilepsis laureola ( Impila)- Cascara Sagrada-

Celandine ( also known as greater celandine) (Chelidonium majus). Chaparral (also known as creosote bush or greasewood) (Larrea taridentata) .. Comfrey and other herbs containing pyrrolizidine alkaloids (heliotropium, senecio, crotalaria, symphytum)- Doxidan ( Danthron 1,8-hydroxyanthroqu inone and dioctyl calcium sulfosuccinate). Germander (Teucrium chamaedrys).- Green tea leaf. Groundsel (Senecio vulgaris).- Impila root. Jin Bu Huan.- Kava ( also known as kava kava or Piper methysticum)- Kombucha. Lobelia (Lobelia inflata).. Ma huang (ephedra).. Mate (also known as paraquay tea) (Ilex paraguariensis) .. Mistletoe (Viscum album).. Nutmeg (Myristica fragrans).. Pau d'arco (La pachol).. Pennyroyal (Mentha pulegium).. Poke root (Phytolacca americana).. Ragwort (Senecio

jacoboea).. Sarsparilla (Smilax species).. Sassafras (Sassafras albidum).. Saw palmetto - the main ingredient of the herbal preparation known as "Prostata".. Senna (Casio acutifolia).. Skullcap (Scutellaria laterifolia) .- Soy phytoestrogen. Sweet clover (Melilotus officinalis) .. Tansy (Tanacetum vulgare).. T'u-san-chi.. Valerian (Valeriana offinalis).. Woodruff (Galium odorata).. Certain Chinese herbal formulas-typically a complex mixture of a variety of different herbs.. Herbal preparations containing the recreational drug "ecstasy" (3,4-Methylenedioxy metamphetamine) . It is also important to be aware that there are many known drug-herb interactions of potential significance to a person with liver disease. For example garlic, ginko, dong quai danshen, devil's claw and papaya extract (papain) all may increase the

tendency to bleed. Thus, people with liver disease undergoing a surgical procedure or any invasive procedure, such as a liver biopsy should be aware of this potential effect. Furthermore, people with esophageal varices may also be at increased risk for hemorrhage when taking these herbs. People who have had a liver transplant should avoid the herb St. 's wort. This herb may cause cyclosporine levels ( a medication used after transplantation to prevent rejection of the new liver) to decrease, thereby putting one at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver. As discussed in my book, licorice may reduce prednisone levels, thus putting a transplant recipient at risk for rejection of the transplanted liver.http://www.liverdis ease.com/ harmfulherbs_ hepatitis. html

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