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Jeff,

Get that person's name and keep it in a safe place. If more lawsuits are

to follow this could be a " presidency " (not sure if that is the correct

legal term) for future claims. The Gulf War Veterans has spent years

trying to find history of claims that were paid but the government usually

will put a gag order on anyone who gets a settlement. If they pay one

claim they have to pay you all! Don't forget about the Feres Doctrine,

that will not let a military person sue the government until their claim

has been refused. That is why most GW Veterans claims sat around for 5

years before anyone got anything, care, treatment or money. That is why so

many died. By the way $200,000 isn't much money when your sick today, also

find out if that person can ever get treatment at a VA hospital in the

future.

I'm sure more on this list can explain this better than I can!

Take care all,

Maureen

At 10:36 AM 1/2/01 -0800, you wrote:

>Hello everyone...

>

>I met this guy last week - he is in the Army. He says that they are getting

>a series of 8 shots. He is stationed at Fort Riley in Kansas.

>Anyway - I told him my story and he told me that there was this other guy in

>the Air Force that had his wife sue and got a $200,000 settlement. hmm...

>Has anyone heard of this?

>Please respond to my email as I am not good at always reading the posts

>here.

>

>Thank you,

Jeff Bettendorf

>bettendorf@...

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here in ft stewart and hunter army airfield i have heard about the 8 series.

and no i havent heard of any case but would sure like to find out since I am

a sufferer of the vaccinations. i am new to this group and would i would

like to hear from others and if they have symptoms similar to mine. ronda

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Flo,

Dr. R. is countersuing for defamation.

Regards,

Jon in Tuscaloosa

MGB 11/22/00

263/160/150

> Guys, I think that some of you are misunderstanding. I believe

is suing Dr. Rutledge and not the other way around. I

would imagine that we are hearing from the attorney who is defending

Dr. R.

>

> Unfortunately, anyone can sue anyone. And the cost of defending is

on the person sued.

>

> Flo from land

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Well, according to bin Ladin(I heard this at the picnic and

laughed so hard I thought I was going to wet my pants), via her list,

Dr R is telling " half-truths " and Dr R is *not* suing her.

manda

> > > Guys, I think that some of you are misunderstanding. I believe

> > is suing Dr. Rutledge and not the other way

around. I

> > would imagine that we are hearing from the attorney who is

defending

> > Dr. R.

> > >

> > > Unfortunately, anyone can sue anyone. And the cost of defending

is

> > on the person sued.

> > >

> > > Flo from land

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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In a message dated 10/13/2001 4:39:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

florence@... writes:

<< Gotcha. Thanks . I didn't know that but am GLAD GLAD GLAD to hear it!

Flo

>>

I'm glad to hear that too. My guess would be that is going to screw

herself taking Dr. R to court. But then again, she's never struck me as a

very bright person.

in OK

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In a message dated 10/13/2001 5:00:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

eskieluvr@... writes:

<< Well, according to bin Ladin(I heard this at the picnic and

laughed so hard I thought I was going to wet my pants), via her list,

Dr R is telling " half-truths " and Dr R is *not* suing her.

manda

>>

don't even know what the truth is! She is so accustom to lying. I

don't believe anything that comes out of the woman's mouth is truthful.

in OK

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Guys, I think that some of you are misunderstanding. I believe is

suing Dr. Rutledge and not the other way around. I would imagine that we are

hearing from the attorney who is defending Dr. R.

Unfortunately, anyone can sue anyone. And the cost of defending is on the person

sued.

Flo from land

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Gotcha. Thanks . I didn't know that but am GLAD GLAD GLAD to hear it!

Flo

> ** Original Subject: RE: Re: Lawsuit

> ** Original Sender: jsb@...

> ** Original Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 19:29:21 -0400

> ** Original Message follows...

>

> Flo,

>

> Dr. R. is countersuing for defamation.

>

> Regards,

>

> Jon in Tuscaloosa

> MGB 11/22/00

> 263/160/150

>

>

> > Guys, I think that some of you are misunderstanding. I believe

> is suing Dr. Rutledge and not the other way around. I

> would imagine that we are hearing from the attorney who is defending

> Dr. R.

> >

> > Unfortunately, anyone can sue anyone. And the cost of defending is

> on the person sued.

> >

> > Flo from land

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Who is your insurance company?

Newton

Medical Records Manager

HTTP://www.clos.net

shn@...

Office (704) 871-0031

Cell (704) 682-1392

lawsuit

hello,

well, i'm still getting the runaround from my insurance company. is

there anyway to make a tactful, non-threatening statement to them (via

mail) letting them know that my next step will be to get a " big gun "

attorney involved? i have said nothing of the sort yet, but that is in

the plan if need be.

stacey raimundo

10/23/02

232/156

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Hi Stacey,

I have an example for you.

" I am fully aware of how your appeals process works, through the

final appeal and including, if made necessary, my right to invoke

legal action. "

(Or something very similar.)

I hope this helps, or at least gives food for thought. Be sure you

are well versed in their appeals process in case they " call " you on

it.

My best!

Jenn in Vancouver, WA

(working on many appeals for friends in Oregon at this time.... not

for WLS at present.)

" Stacey Raimundo " <sraimundo@c...> wrote:

> hello,

>

> well, i'm still getting the runaround from my insurance company. is

there anyway to make a tactful, non-threatening statement to them

(via mail) letting them know that my next step will be to get a " big

gun " attorney involved? i have said nothing of the sort yet, but that

is in the plan if need be.

>

> stacey raimundo

> 10/23/02

> 232/156

>

>

>

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Hello Stacey,

I am also getting the runaround from my insurance company (Blue Cross Blue

Shield of New Mexico).

I will be talking to them on Tuesday, April 29th. In my case, they approved

the surgery but not MGB that

they claim to be experimental. We are going to say that other companies pay

for the procedure and

do not consider it experimental. We are also going to present the story of

the Billroth II surgery and

some comparisons with other methods, including the study by the Chinese

doctors that Dr. Rutledge

sent to us last week. However, I believe that we, MGB'ers should have a

site

where we present all the cases won and lost. That could be a big help to the

people that will have the

surgery. May be we could convince Dr. Rutledge to have this added to the

manual. If he does not aggree,

we could make a web page ourselves.

I do not know if threatening them with an attorney will or not change

anything. I would talk to a good

attorney before doing anything. They would know how better advise you.

I apologize for my poor English. I am a naturalized American, and English is

my second language.

I am a physicist and I have experience with computers. If we decide to

create a web page on how to

fight insurance companies, I could offer some help.

lawsuit

>hello,

>

>well, i'm still getting the runaround from my insurance company. is there

anyway to make a tactful, non-threatening statement to them (via mail)

letting them know that my next step will be to get a " big gun " attorney

involved? i have said nothing of the sort yet, but that is in the plan if

need be.

>

>stacey raimundo

>10/23/02

>232/156

>

>

>

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Florida Memorial Health Network (Adventist Health Systems)--self-funded

through the hospital I work at.

lawsuit

>

>

> hello,

>

> well, i'm still getting the runaround from my insurance company. is

> there anyway to make a tactful, non-threatening statement to them (via

> mail) letting them know that my next step will be to get a " big gun "

> attorney involved? i have said nothing of the sort yet, but that is in

> the plan if need be.

>

> stacey raimundo

> 10/23/02

> 232/156

>

>

>

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OH MY GOSH!

I have a wonderful idea! I think one of the things that we should do before

surgery is first, quit our jobs and get a job with our local insurance

companies and then we can give out Weight loss surgery to everyone! We must

infultrate the system!!! It's the only way!

:) B

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Hello,

We are in process of considering initiation of an action against BCBS North

Carolina.

The lawyer tentatively retained to investigate this issue further is Mr.

Zatoun in Raleigh NC.

If you have had either success or failure with your insurance company

covering or not covering MGB please email his office at:

rzaytoun@...;

We might be able to do something to help

RR

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Great idea! Then the whole world would love us!!!

Newton

Medical Records Manager

HTTP://www.clos.net

shn@...

Office (704) 871-0031

Cell (704) 682-1392

Re: lawsuit

OH MY GOSH!

I have a wonderful idea! I think one of the things that we should do

before

surgery is first, quit our jobs and get a job with our local insurance

companies and then we can give out Weight loss surgery to everyone! We

must

infultrate the system!!! It's the only way!

:) B

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As soon as we can more definate information we will pass it along to you

guys.Thank you so much for all your support and we are hoping that BCBS

will one day come to their senses.

Newton

Medical Records Manager

HTTP://www.clos.net

shn@...

Office (704) 871-0031

Cell (704) 682-1392

Lawsuit

Has anyone heard anything else about the possible lawsuit against BCBS

of NC? If so please advise. Thank you.

Wagner (Trish)

Dr. R 2/12/03

279/239

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Jeanette Lund

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007

5:13 PM

Subject: Lawsuit

Dear

Group,

Does anyone have the name of the attorneys who are

filling a class action suit? Without making any issue

about it now, my husband has already experienced the

result of a malfunctioning lead. We were that 1 in

10,000 who were ignored a year ago when the espisodes

happened. We survived!!! But my husband would tell

you that he would rather have the device than not have

it.

Jeanette King

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We need to know the correct procedure and/or the current

expectations that should take place when a medical guidelines needs to be

reviewed. Especially when a particular guideline has attracted hundreds of

comments against it.

Could somebody please do a search to find out what the current expectations

are concerning such a review in the UK.

When the Attorney General of Connecticut(1) ordered a review of

guidelines written by the Infectious Disease Society of America - there was an

agreement that…

1. no

past guideline author may participate.

2. All,

not selected, medical science must be considered.

3. The

committee meetings must be open to the public.

4. The

committee must have an ombudsman that is mutually chosen.

Can we expect this to happen here in the UK? Can we MAKE this

happen here in the UK? If the hypothyroidism guideline is being reviewed

by the same people who created it, we need to take action against this. But, we

will wait and see…

(1) IDSA Agreement with the Connecticut Attorney General http://www.lyme.org/updates.html

Luv - Sheila

A recent exchange here prompted me to connect the reason why doctors believe

wrongly that thyroxine is the active hormone is their lack of education. The

Royal College of Physicians' recommended curriculum for endocrinologists does

not touch on the mimics of hypothyroidism, those post thyroid functions of

peripheral metabolism and peripheral cellular hormone reception, or on the

requirements for various enzymes.

When we connect this to the Royal College of Physicians evaluating all of the

complaints on their recent hypothyroidism guideline, we can only wonder about

the level of education these evaluees are going to bring to the discussion. To

date, there has been uniform denial or dismissal of these mimics. The RCP may

continue to deny their existence or the RCP may stall indefinitely. Either will

demand a lawsuit or the acceptance of continued suffering.

We have several problems with legal action. The first is expense. How are just

a few people going to manage the huge costs. Well, unless they are rich and

altruistic, it is not likely. This requires a broad based support. However, I

know of no other forum that is inclined to even suggest a litigious path.

Perhaps they would rather suffer than rock the boat in the high seas within

courtrooms.

We need to gain solidarity with and support of other forum members or at least persuade

those members to also become donating members of TPA-UK.

The second problem in these cases is finding experts in the light of sham peer

reviews and potential loss of career, which we have already seen all too often

already.... On the flip side, I believe that a well-prepared barrister can

leave opposing experts either admitting ignorance or incoherently blubbering. .

.. .

Anyway, I just hope that this can be resolved before I kick the bucket. I fully

expect that the race will be on. Which also suggest that the side with the

endurance will be the winner. So every day that you suffer, think of supporting

this effort. Every day that you can be thankful for Sheila's efforts, think of

supporting this effort.

Have a great day hanging together,

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Hi Sheila

If magistrates now have to justify the sentences they impose in court - they

have to give reasons for their decisions - then why are the RCP excempt from

giving reasons and references for their decisions?

B

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This is one question we definitely need to be answered .

Luv - Sheila

If magistrates now have to justify the sentences they impose in court - they

have to give reasons for their decisions - then why are the RCP excempt from

giving reasons and references for their decisions?

B

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HI

The answer to this is quite simple. There is a system of checks and balances

upon magistrates. There is no system of checks and balances on medical

associations -- except for a big, risky law suit. And if you had Ann Keen as

judge, you might as well go home and suffer.

MMMMM, I wonder how many suicides can be attributed to medical practice induced

depression. I ask that because there are more suicides in the US than murders.

Have a great day hanging together,

>

> Hi Sheila

>

> If magistrates now have to justify the sentences they impose in court - they

have to give reasons for their decisions - then why are the RCP excempt from

giving reasons and references for their decisions?

>

> B

>

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, you are right on all points. but i am trying to find some attorney who does not charge me before hand. Secondly i have collected blood reports of blood transferred to me during surgery. it shows that they had not tested for Hepc before giving me. i like to have every body's guidance on this issue. swammyWell if you have the proof that they did not check for hep c and "WERE SUPPOSE TO" looks like you

have a case and my guess is you need to seek a malpractice attorney. Just keep looking for someone and I'm sure some lawyer will think the case is solid. Only problem is they can say you could have gotten it many other ways but it cost alot of money to fight and doesn't look good for the hospital in the newspapers so there maybe a quick settlement.

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I agree with Angelo.

A settlement may be the way to go.

From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>Subject: [ ] Lawsuit Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:17 PM

, you are right on all points. but i am trying to find some attorney who does not charge me before hand. Secondly i have collected blood reports of blood transferred to me during surgery. it shows that they had not tested for Hepc before giving me. i like to have every body's guidance on this issue. swammy

Well if you have the proof that they did not check for hep c and "WERE SUPPOSE TO" looks like you have a case and my guess is you need to seek a malpractice attorney. Just keep looking for someone and I'm sure some lawyer will think the case is solid. Only problem is they can say you could have gotten it many other ways but it cost alot of money to fight and doesn't look good for the hospital in the newspapers so there maybe a quick settlement.

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hell ya go for it, they gave you a killer disease and they do it all the timeOn Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Christ <ludichrist2000@...> wrote:

I agree with Angelo.

A settlement may be the way to go.

From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>Subject: [ ] Lawsuit

Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:17 PM

, you are right on all points. but i am trying to find some attorney who does not charge me before hand. Secondly i have collected blood reports of blood transferred to me during surgery. it shows that they had not tested for Hepc before giving me. i like to have every body's guidance on this issue. swammy

Well if you have the proof that they did not check for hep c and " WERE SUPPOSE TO " looks like you have a case and my guess is you need to seek a malpractice attorney. Just keep looking for someone and I'm sure some lawyer will think the case is solid. Only problem is they can say you could have gotten it many other ways but it cost alot of money to fight and doesn't look good for the hospital in the newspapers so there maybe a quick settlement.

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