Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 I've used it for my headaches throughout all my treatments and had no problems stopping it. Having an addictive personality would cause problems, unless the person is in control of that. Anti depressants can be addicting too if we allow them to be. Just my humble opinion! LeighAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Speaking as a professional, anti-depressants are NOT addictive. Darvon and Darvocet are physically addictive, not just psychologically. My Master's is in Addiction Psychology. Re: Tylenol I've used it for my headaches throughout all my treatments and had no problems stopping it. Having an addictive personality would cause problems, unless the person is in control of that. Anti depressants can be addicting too if we allow them to be. Just my humble opinion! LeighAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Yes you have told us about your masters several times as well as what you do for a living. I do know lots of people who cannot seem to get OFF their anti depressants...whether this is all in their heads or a real addiction problem who knows. I guess that just makes it something we should all be aware of when we do choose to take these kinds of meds. A heads up as it were. As for the darvocet...which is made with tylenol and is not nearly as strong as darvon, I guess that is a matter of choice and a decision between patient and dr as well. I can only speak for myself on this one...I have no problems taking it...and no problems not taking it. LeighAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Maybe they are afraid it might make them depressed if they quit taking them! leighannv <no_reply > wrote:Yes you have told us about your masters several times as well as what you do for a living. I do know lots of people who cannot seem to get OFF their anti depressants...whether this is all in their heads or a real addiction problem who knows. I guess that just makes it something we should all be aware of when we do choose to take these kinds of meds. A heads up as it were. As for the darvocet...which is made with tylenol and is not nearly as strong as darvon, I guess that is a matter of choice and a decision between patient and dr as well. I can only speak for myself on this one...I have no problems taking it...and no problems not taking it. LeighAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 HAHAHAHA maybe that's it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 I wasn't suggesting that people shouldn't take them... just that they are aware of what they are taking. That WAS the point. Science does know- anti-depressants are NOT addictive. Most people don't try to get off anti-depressants unless their lives are going great.... and how often does that happen? Do you really know someone who truly wanted off the anti-depressants and could not stop? There are no withdrawal symptoms, but even if life is great, often the need- the chemical imbalance that created the need in the first place- still remains. Yes, darvacet is made with acetaminophen (I think I posted that), however it is also made with propoxyphene, which is still a narcotic. Someone who is a recovering addict or alcoholic should be extra careful about darvacet. Many of us who are HCV positive ARE chemically dependent. There ARE alternatives to narcotics. Admittedly, nothing works as well as the good stuff, though. I'm glad you have no problem taking or not taking darvacet. Any junkie on the street would give you a couple bucks a piece for a bottle... more for darvon, of course. michael Re: Tylenol Yes you have told us about your masters several times as well as what you do for a living. I do know lots of people who cannot seem to get OFF their anti depressants...whether this is all in their heads or a real addiction problem who knows. I guess that just makes it something we should all be aware of when we do choose to take these kinds of meds. A heads up as it were. As for the darvocet...which is made with tylenol and is not nearly as strong as darvon, I guess that is a matter of choice and a decision between patient and dr as well. I can only speak for myself on this one...I have no problems taking it...and no problems not taking it. LeighAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 \ Do you really know someone > who truly wanted off the anti-depressants and could not stop? Yes I do. I certainly don't make a point of lying on this board to these people. I simply stated what I know from what I have experienced and what others have told me. And I watched a friend who REALLY couldn't get off the anti-depressants. Maybe it was all in his head...who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 > Lapp is another > who does some Ampligen and I've already gotten on to him and gave him > a dunce cap for being silly enough to give patients Tylenol PM rather > then Sominex or benedryle which has the active ingredient that makes > you go to sleep. I would guess his reasoning there would be that since most of us have a considerable amount of pain that also interrupts and keeps us from getting to sleep the pain relieving part of it would also help us sleep as well (since a lot of us ours have FM). Tylenol of course was always touted by the med profession as the safest pain reliever, but there are effects from everything we do and take. All the treatments we take that don't work just end up being part of the toxic burden our bodies have to remove and deal with. Even drugs that give us some temporary relief have long term effects on our bodies. Its a real two edged sword! Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 This is a weird topic, so many different views from all our doctors. Kelseys doctor has said no to Ibruprophen(Advil), but oky with Tylenol...for her weight 325 mg per dose, no more than 3 doses per day up to 3 days. If she had a fever and it didnt break after 3 days of Tylenol she would then need to see her specialist. He also wishes her not to take over counter sinus medications or cold medications. Which is why last week when she was very ill I took her in and he gave her a prescription. She also uses Fluonaise for her allergies as needed(prescription). Its amazing how many doctors are varied on this. I think it depends on the types of disease U do have, some of us have more than just CAH. And what meds U do take from ur doctor. Trish > Hi Everyone > > Just wanted to say that my Hep told me under no > circumstances do I take Tylenol that if I have to > take anything for my migraines take Advil and not > very many of those either. He said it was very bad > for the liver. Good thing that my migraines seem to > have calmed down these last few years knock on wood. > > > Have a great evening > > in Montreal PBC stage4/AIH/IBS > > > --------------------------------- > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 In a message dated 12/30/2004 9:13:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, cbenoir@... writes: Most things containing tylenol say causes liver damage The fact is that most drugs today contain a warning about potential liver damage. When my hepatologist looks up a drug one of the things he looks at is the difference between patients taking the drug and those taking a placebo. If the percentage is very low he'll usually ok it. It also depends upon your individual condition--how severe the damage to your liver is, what stage your AIH is currently, etc. What might be safe for one person might not be safe for another, although some general guidelines would certainly help. I take a whole mess of meds just to counteract the side effects of prednisone. Regards Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 it kind of primes the pump for the liver to conjugate EtG shelley...best not to take... review recent post here on tylenol has a role in many false positives...regards Semans <love2nrsshell@...> wrote: I have just recently started reading all of this info. on etg. I have not tested positive for etg. but several people in my nrs. support group have. I do take tylenol on a regular basis for my back what does tylenol do to cause positive etg? Thanks Marsha Dienelt <marshadienelt > wrote: STOP TAKING TYLENOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!Jill Schroeder-Hall <jillypillsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: I am going to try and put together a class action suit against etg testing...i will not allow this unreliable test to ruin what I have worked so hard to build..if you are interested please let me know..please only respond if you are truly sober and tested pos..robin...my DOC is cabernet...I take tylenol es and advil all the time as I am long distance runner...ok long distance is relative ..I run 8-11 miles 4-5xper week...thanks Jill It's here! Your new message!Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 my sciatica flared up after my getting on top of it 25 years ago ... sometimes too painful to walk so called my hepatolgist as to what meds might be tolerable ... can you believe it, she says 2 grams of tylenol are ok ... i don't know if we've had the ibuprofen vs tylenol debate, but with vicodin in the news, i thought it might be timely for any general insights ... ☮ Gachhttp://word.To may all beings be well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Hi everyone Ive been told by my doc that Tylenol [acetaminophen] is really bad for those of us with Hep C. Ive also been told that most all Pdrugs are bad too, as your liver processes everything you consume. There are many posts about Tylenol in the MESSAGES posted over the years in this group. Go to the homepage: http://www/group/ / <----- click here In the homepage menu, [on the right], click on MESSAGES. -new page- At the top of the message page is a search bar. Type in TYLENOL, and click SEARCH. All the members posts on this topic will show up. love don in ks From: Gloria <gadamscan@...>Subject: Re: [ ] tylenol Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 11:01 PM I was addicted to plain ordinary Tylenol for many years. When I learned that I actually had Hep C, I instantly quit with the Tylenol. However, for headaches etc. both of my specialists have always said Tylenol. I was taking Advil Liquid Gels for the pain of Fibromyalgia; but, when my GP learned that she was horrified because it is not good for those with High Blood Pressure. I now only take Tylenol if my headache actually won't clear for a couple of hours and I know that I have been drinking enough water. Mostly, I find now that I only get headaches when I haven't had enough water. As for pain, such as my Fibro - there is nothing I'm willing to take yet (such as prescriptions) and will just rest. Truthfully, if the pain ever gets beyond my capacity or my liver gets any worse - I'd rather have legal pot than any prescription and I never liked pot even in the 70's. Too much of a downer for an ADHD life I was.Gloria From: Gach <gary.gach@...>hepatitis Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 6:04:39 PMSubject: [ ] tylenol my sciatica flared up after my getting on top of it 25 years ago ... sometimes too painful to walk so called my hepatolgist as to what meds might be tolerable ... can you believe it, she says 2 grams of tylenol are ok ... i don't know if we've had the ibuprofen vs tylenol debate, but with vicodin in the news, i thought it might be timely for any general insights ... ☮ Gachhttp://word. Tomay all beings be well The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Get it Now for Free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 everything i've ever read or researched about tylenol both natural and mainstream medicin has said that tylenol is the worst for the liver...i don't know why doctors keep pushing it. especialy for people with liver problems not to mention hep c...i don't take anything even prescribed without researching it first.kathy From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca>Subject: Re: [ ] tylenol Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 11:01 PM I was addicted to plain ordinary Tylenol for many years. When I learned that I actually had Hep C, I instantly quit with the Tylenol. However, for headaches etc. both of my specialists have always said Tylenol. I was taking Advil Liquid Gels for the pain of Fibromyalgia; but, when my GP learned that she was horrified because it is not good for those with High Blood Pressure. I now only take Tylenol if my headache actually won't clear for a couple of hours and I know that I have been drinking enough water. Mostly, I find now that I only get headaches when I haven't had enough water. As for pain, such as my Fibro - there is nothing I'm willing to take yet (such as prescriptions) and will just rest. Truthfully, if the pain ever gets beyond my capacity or my liver gets any worse - I'd rather have legal pot than any prescription and I never liked pot even in the 70's. Too much of a downer for an ADHD life I was.Gloria From: Gach <gary.gachgmail (DOT) com>hepatitisSent: Friday, July 3, 2009 6:04:39 PMSubject: [ ] tylenol my sciatica flared up after my getting on top of it 25 years ago ... sometimes too painful to walk so called my hepatolgist as to what meds might be tolerable ... can you believe it, she says 2 grams of tylenol are ok ... i don't know if we've had the ibuprofen vs tylenol debate, but with vicodin in the news, i thought it might be timely for any general insights ... ☮ Gachhttp://word. Tomay all beings be well The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Get it Now for Free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Tylenol doesn't cure anything. It can only cause harm. There is no benefit to eliminating fever except for Mom to feel better because the symptoms aren't visible--"therefore they don't exist" and the child is supposedly now healthy. Sticking one's head in the sand would have that same effect and without risking side effects for the child. I don't see any comparison to vaccines, just Tylenol in and of itself is useless and has side effects. As for other pain relievers, assuming you mean OTC and not natural meds, at least Advil (and I assume Motrin) will get rid of pain, inflammation, etc.but yes, that is also through suppression of the symptoms. Winnie TylenolVaccinations > So from what I understand if my child is to get sick you say NOT > to give him Tylenol because it supresses the immune system just > the same way that a vaccine might? Is this the case with any > other pain reliever fever reducer?> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 That and all OTC drugs are hard on the liver as it works to get the body clean again. work with the body, not against. Fever is a friend. Say it over and over if you must! We no longer buy or have any OTC products anywhere in the house, not even immodium! Nita (crew chief) and the crew: 16, Jon 14, 12, 10, 7, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 3 and Isaac, 1 http://momof6.dotphoto.com for not necessarily current pictures http://nitasspot.blogspot.com Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long enough to make them all yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 We don't either, nothing whatsoever. Maybe this is why pharma hates us so much! We do have about a hundred vials of homeopathy remedies but haven't really used them much yet. Vida > > That and all OTC drugs are hard on the liver as it works to get the body > clean again. work with the body, not against. > > > > Fever is a friend. Say it over and over if you must! > > > > We no longer buy or have any OTC products anywhere in the house, not even > immodium! > > > > Nita (crew chief) and the crew: 16, Jon 14, 12, 10, > 7, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 3 and Isaac, 1 > http://momof6.dotphoto.com <http://momof6.dotphoto.com/> for not > necessarily current pictures > > http://nitasspot.blogspot.com > Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long enough > to make them all yourself. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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