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From: Gavriela de Boer <gavrieladeboer@...>Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Liver Flush Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 12:31 PM

Hi, this is Gavriela. I've been a member of this group for the past six years. I rarely check in to say much, I mostly lurk and read everything that's posted. I know that there are others who used to be here and who contributed to some lively and informative discussions, who are now either gone or simply hang around as I do, waiting for some new people with fresh ideas.I feel a need to jump in right now so that you () not give up on this group. It needs what you provide: a breath of fresh air and plain common sense. I also appreciate your respectful attitude towards other posters as well as your openness to hearing about what has helped others fighting HCV.It seems that what repeatedly derails conversation here is the unwillingness of some posters to hear anything about treatment options other than the one they believe in. Sharon, while I would defend your

right to state your opinion about your own her specific treatment, I don't appreciate your generalizations- -trashing ALL doctors and pharmaceutical companies. That's simply not helpful and can demoralize those of us who seek treatment as the best possible option. Just to let you know my background, I have been infected with HCV for the past 40 or so years, genotype 4. I was on treatment from Nov. 2003 until June 2005. I cleared the virus at week 19 and stayed clear until a week after the 72 weeks of treatment, when I relapsed. Treatment was grueling (I had to be hospitalized three times due to high fevers and low white and red counts). Knowing what I know now and still having HCV despite all the misery of those 18 months, I'm glad I did the treatment. I'm also willing to carefully consider any other alternatives as long as they are backed by research and studies and even if they don't help, they won't hurt. As or Don said (sorry, can't

remember which of you) just because it's natural doesn't mean it's not chemical or risky.Please stick around , and to any other former members who are silent out there, come back. And Sharon, don't leave. You may have had a dreadful experience on treatment, but don't discourage others who are fighting this disease from using every weapon at their disposal. We all choose our path on this journey and need all the support we can get from our fellow heppers. With all good wishes to everyone here,Gavriela

From: Matchinsky <mmatchinsky@ gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 8:47:06 AMSubject: RE: [ ] Re: Liver Flush

Perhaps this isn’t the support group for me; while I am open to alternative medicine, most simply do not work and can cause more harm than good.

I would try acupuncture; there are studies that show it can be effective, but I can’t afford it. I can’t afford to chase after every pie-in-the-sky, either.

I know how desperate people can be to find a magic cure, but God created the Universe operates according to natural laws; these are rarely suspended.

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From: [mailto:HepCWebWarr iors@groups .com] On Behalf Of scarletpaolicchiSent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:57 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Liver Flush

Hi Walter,I suggested you post this so that you could get many opinions and not just mine.My personal suggestion would be to use the one my mother uses (she has Hep C). It is the Young Living cleasing program. Its purpose is to help detoxify the liver and help maximize normal liver functions in a natural, effective way. The cleanse is built around the concept of the Master Cleanse drink, Vital Life Juice, salads, and nutritional supplements for a minimum of five days. The recipes for the Master Cleanse and Vital Life drinks and salads can be found in our Re-JUVA-nate Your Health brochure authored by D. Young and available at http://www.youngliv ing.com/scarlet The idea with this clease is to support your body while doing it avoid overwhelming fatigues that often accompanies a cleanse.Master Cleanse (single serving):2

Tablespoons of organic lemon juice, fresh-squeezed a must (1 Lemon)2 Tablespoons of organic agave syrup OR organic grade B maple syrup (not the commercial maple flavored syrup you use on pancakes)1/10 Teaspoon cayenne pepper powderTen ounces of filtered waterThe RE-JUVA-nate booklet goes into all the details but aside from drinking the cleanse 6 times a day, you'll need to drink plenty of water and in the morning, you'll want to drink 25-35 oz. of filtered water with 1 teaspoon of sea salt. This is the laxative. You could also use an herbal laxative tea but that might keep you busy all day. The sea salt works on elimination within an hour.Good Luck.>> I would be really greatful> >> >I need to do another liver flush. I would prefer a non-commercial> type., natural type like the one listed below.> > I have it on pretty good authority that this one is pretty good, as it> gets rid of "stone" in the liver. I must admit I had never heard of> stones any place but the kidneys> >> >Is this a good one?> >> >> >You will require the following for a liver flush:> >¼ cup of Epsom salts (Medical Grade)> >½ cup olive oil> >¼ tsp sea salt> >16 ounce jar with a lid + a drinking straw> >Lemon or Grapefruit>