New to Group

[Guest guest]

Kathy ,

hugs and I sure feel for you. I know everytime they call me at home from work

and say how are you feeling I feel like they are just checking up on me to see

if I am out I guess having a party or something. But believe me this is no party

as you and all of us well know.

I am working only 1 day a week mostly volunteering but I am getting so darn

short of breath due to my labs being so messed up. But I guess it could be worse

I could be waiting for a transplant and there be nothing available for me. I am

not there and I have to be thankful for that.

Man I wish the drug companies would come up with a better treatment solution

that is more cost effective Actually that is my prayer.

New to Group

I have already been thru two treatments in the last six years but have never

belonged to a Hepatitis C group. I have chronic Hep C with scarring and fybrosis

and even though my viral count is around 10,000, I continue to feel sick every

single day. I am now 56 years old and it's so hard to get out of bed and keep

going to work. I miss more days now and had to go on Intermittent FMLA so I

don't get pointed and lose my job, which means no insurance. No one around me

seems to understand how I feel and sometimes I feel as though they think I'm

making my sickness up. I guess I need to know there are others out there who

will understand and how serious this disease is.

[Guest guest]

You vent all you want to, honey! We are here to listen. Been there and done it.

I also have been thinking about the Silver. 42 wk's of TX and it did not help

me. I am 1A and the TX was a year and a half ago. A lot of crap to go through

for nadda! Thinking of you.

:-) Royce

emily_sweethang@... wrote: Amen Bob,

I am on week 17 just had my interferon shot and taking the ribavirin. My white

count is down to 1.8. I went to the hospital last week in horrible pain due to

my back and I was peeing blood I swore I had a kidney stone. The STUPID BLANKETY

BLANK ER STAFF. Did a drug screen on me before giving me any medications to

relieve my pain. Then after they got the Negative drug screen results I got the

pain medication. What the hell is wrong with people- does not matter if I am

stoned out of my mind I had a kidney stone and I was in horrible pain. Because

they did not see in on the CT skan they called it a UTI- but I saw the stone in

the strainer.

I have been clean for over 5 years and I sure would not go seeking toradol or

morphine if I wanted dope I would just take a skip and hop over to mexico and

get all the cocaine I wanted. But I dont want the stupid thing that caused this

stupid hepatitis C. Sorry I am venting. I guess reba-rage.

I dont want to kill myself but I do wish many days to just go to sleep and not

wake up if this is all there is to living. This treatment is horrible I want to

know what will happen if I stop taking it? Start some colloid anything that will

make this shit feel better.

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

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> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

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[Guest guest]

You vent all you want to, honey! We are here to listen. Been there and done it.

I also have been thinking about the Silver. 42 wk's of TX and it did not help

me. I am 1A and the TX was a year and a half ago. A lot of crap to go through

for nadda! Thinking of you.

:-) Royce

emily_sweethang@... wrote: Amen Bob,

I am on week 17 just had my interferon shot and taking the ribavirin. My white

count is down to 1.8. I went to the hospital last week in horrible pain due to

my back and I was peeing blood I swore I had a kidney stone. The STUPID BLANKETY

BLANK ER STAFF. Did a drug screen on me before giving me any medications to

relieve my pain. Then after they got the Negative drug screen results I got the

pain medication. What the hell is wrong with people- does not matter if I am

stoned out of my mind I had a kidney stone and I was in horrible pain. Because

they did not see in on the CT skan they called it a UTI- but I saw the stone in

the strainer.

I have been clean for over 5 years and I sure would not go seeking toradol or

morphine if I wanted dope I would just take a skip and hop over to mexico and

get all the cocaine I wanted. But I dont want the stupid thing that caused this

stupid hepatitis C. Sorry I am venting. I guess reba-rage.

I dont want to kill myself but I do wish many days to just go to sleep and not

wake up if this is all there is to living. This treatment is horrible I want to

know what will happen if I stop taking it? Start some colloid anything that will

make this shit feel better.

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

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>

>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

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[Guest guest]

You vent all you want to, honey! We are here to listen. Been there and done it.

I also have been thinking about the Silver. 42 wk's of TX and it did not help

me. I am 1A and the TX was a year and a half ago. A lot of crap to go through

for nadda! Thinking of you.

:-) Royce

emily_sweethang@... wrote: Amen Bob,

I am on week 17 just had my interferon shot and taking the ribavirin. My white

count is down to 1.8. I went to the hospital last week in horrible pain due to

my back and I was peeing blood I swore I had a kidney stone. The STUPID BLANKETY

BLANK ER STAFF. Did a drug screen on me before giving me any medications to

relieve my pain. Then after they got the Negative drug screen results I got the

pain medication. What the hell is wrong with people- does not matter if I am

stoned out of my mind I had a kidney stone and I was in horrible pain. Because

they did not see in on the CT skan they called it a UTI- but I saw the stone in

the strainer.

I have been clean for over 5 years and I sure would not go seeking toradol or

morphine if I wanted dope I would just take a skip and hop over to mexico and

get all the cocaine I wanted. But I dont want the stupid thing that caused this

stupid hepatitis C. Sorry I am venting. I guess reba-rage.

I dont want to kill myself but I do wish many days to just go to sleep and not

wake up if this is all there is to living. This treatment is horrible I want to

know what will happen if I stop taking it? Start some colloid anything that will

make this shit feel better.

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

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[Guest guest]

You vent all you want to, honey! We are here to listen. Been there and done it.

I also have been thinking about the Silver. 42 wk's of TX and it did not help

me. I am 1A and the TX was a year and a half ago. A lot of crap to go through

for nadda! Thinking of you.

:-) Royce

emily_sweethang@... wrote: Amen Bob,

I am on week 17 just had my interferon shot and taking the ribavirin. My white

count is down to 1.8. I went to the hospital last week in horrible pain due to

my back and I was peeing blood I swore I had a kidney stone. The STUPID BLANKETY

BLANK ER STAFF. Did a drug screen on me before giving me any medications to

relieve my pain. Then after they got the Negative drug screen results I got the

pain medication. What the hell is wrong with people- does not matter if I am

stoned out of my mind I had a kidney stone and I was in horrible pain. Because

they did not see in on the CT skan they called it a UTI- but I saw the stone in

the strainer.

I have been clean for over 5 years and I sure would not go seeking toradol or

morphine if I wanted dope I would just take a skip and hop over to mexico and

get all the cocaine I wanted. But I dont want the stupid thing that caused this

stupid hepatitis C. Sorry I am venting. I guess reba-rage.

I dont want to kill myself but I do wish many days to just go to sleep and not

wake up if this is all there is to living. This treatment is horrible I want to

know what will happen if I stop taking it? Start some colloid anything that will

make this shit feel better.

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

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>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

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[Guest guest]

I live in Michigan and here we have Blue Cross & Blue shield of MI individual

plans.  They can't turn you down.  Other insurance companies such as Aetna, can

turn you down, they are medically underwritten while BCBS of MI is not.  Here is

a website in CA that you might want to check into.

http://www.individualhealth.com/bluecross/indhmo.htm

From: Deron Giuliani <deron_giuliani@...>

Subject: Re: Re:New to Group

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 6:34 PM

Unfortunately, my current employer doesn't offer insurance to their employees. 

On the side, I used to be a caregiver until my friend died.  That's how I got

insurance in the first place.  I've been paying $308.00 per month for the last

12 months thinking that after 18 months, I would be able to qualify for the

HIPPA and then go on to get my own individual plan.  I must thank you because

now I'm going to go ahead and drop my COBRA and sign up for our local San

Francisco health plan which is really shitty coverage but a heck of a lot

cheaper than $308.00 per month.  I've been working with this company for six

years but since they are a small business, they don't offer health insurance. 

Maybe I should start looking for a new job.

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

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>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners . So

only took a little over a month off after the operation and have

been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a full days

work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer needed after

20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would pay

for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

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[Guest guest]

I live in Michigan and here we have Blue Cross & Blue shield of MI individual

plans.  They can't turn you down.  Other insurance companies such as Aetna, can

turn you down, they are medically underwritten while BCBS of MI is not.  Here is

a website in CA that you might want to check into.

http://www.individualhealth.com/bluecross/indhmo.htm

From: Deron Giuliani <deron_giuliani@...>

Subject: Re: Re:New to Group

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 6:34 PM

Unfortunately, my current employer doesn't offer insurance to their employees. 

On the side, I used to be a caregiver until my friend died.  That's how I got

insurance in the first place.  I've been paying $308.00 per month for the last

12 months thinking that after 18 months, I would be able to qualify for the

HIPPA and then go on to get my own individual plan.  I must thank you because

now I'm going to go ahead and drop my COBRA and sign up for our local San

Francisco health plan which is really shitty coverage but a heck of a lot

cheaper than $308.00 per month.  I've been working with this company for six

years but since they are a small business, they don't offer health insurance. 

Maybe I should start looking for a new job.

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners . So

only took a little over a month off after the operation and have

been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a full days

work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer needed after

20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would pay

for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

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[Guest guest]

I live in Michigan and here we have Blue Cross & Blue shield of MI individual

plans.  They can't turn you down.  Other insurance companies such as Aetna, can

turn you down, they are medically underwritten while BCBS of MI is not.  Here is

a website in CA that you might want to check into.

http://www.individualhealth.com/bluecross/indhmo.htm

From: Deron Giuliani <deron_giuliani@...>

Subject: Re: Re:New to Group

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 6:34 PM

Unfortunately, my current employer doesn't offer insurance to their employees. 

On the side, I used to be a caregiver until my friend died.  That's how I got

insurance in the first place.  I've been paying $308.00 per month for the last

12 months thinking that after 18 months, I would be able to qualify for the

HIPPA and then go on to get my own individual plan.  I must thank you because

now I'm going to go ahead and drop my COBRA and sign up for our local San

Francisco health plan which is really shitty coverage but a heck of a lot

cheaper than $308.00 per month.  I've been working with this company for six

years but since they are a small business, they don't offer health insurance. 

Maybe I should start looking for a new job.

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners . So

only took a little over a month off after the operation and have

been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a full days

work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer needed after

20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would pay

for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

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[Guest guest]

I live in Michigan and here we have Blue Cross & Blue shield of MI individual

plans.  They can't turn you down.  Other insurance companies such as Aetna, can

turn you down, they are medically underwritten while BCBS of MI is not.  Here is

a website in CA that you might want to check into.

http://www.individualhealth.com/bluecross/indhmo.htm

From: Deron Giuliani <deron_giuliani@...>

Subject: Re: Re:New to Group

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 6:34 PM

Unfortunately, my current employer doesn't offer insurance to their employees. 

On the side, I used to be a caregiver until my friend died.  That's how I got

insurance in the first place.  I've been paying $308.00 per month for the last

12 months thinking that after 18 months, I would be able to qualify for the

HIPPA and then go on to get my own individual plan.  I must thank you because

now I'm going to go ahead and drop my COBRA and sign up for our local San

Francisco health plan which is really shitty coverage but a heck of a lot

cheaper than $308.00 per month.  I've been working with this company for six

years but since they are a small business, they don't offer health insurance. 

Maybe I should start looking for a new job.

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners . So

only took a little over a month off after the operation and have

been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a full days

work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer needed after

20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would pay

for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

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[Guest guest]

bummer.... the ER folk are mostly the better part of medicine, at least most

of the time.

baltimore is somewhat different... junkies with burning stones get pain

meds, no problem.

yeah, waking up still on this planet each day is usually dissapointing for

me unless i was having bad dreams. then to make it worse i listen to talk

radio most of the day while i work... a bad habit i picked up after 9/11.

the weird names of international power players past & present pop into my

consciousness for no reason without invitation or warning, and i mostly

can't even keep them sorted out.

if you stop treatment now, what you've done will be for nothing for sure.

if you're undetectable at this point it's probably worth it to stay the

course if you can?

i don't think CSilver is incompatible with tx drugs, but could possibly

complicate things...don't know. i know someone who took CS all the way

through treatment with no problem and did clear and remains clear. CS is

indeed exc for UTI's. i do recall that milk thistle has the ability to

prevent production of the enzyme that takes the tx drug levels down by

processing them out of the body, so if you take MT the level of the tx drugs

in your system can go higher than planned which isn't cool. i would think

that could be used to advantage if the tx serum levels are monitored the MT

could maybe give the same results with less tx intake, which seems like a

good idea. but i haven't heard of anyone trying to work with it like that.

chlorella, spirulina, chlorophyll, black sesame seeds (ground up), cold

pressed sesame oil, tahini, are all supposed to be real helpful for raising

RBC counts, but i don't know how they effect WBC's... i think they help.

google around and maybe you'll find some affordable goodies you like that

help the WBC's some ... any harmless help in the right direction should be a

good thing, eh?

> Re: Re:New to Group

>

>

> Amen Bob,

>

>

> I am on week 17 just had my interferon shot and taking the

> ribavirin. My white count is down to 1.8. I went to the hospital

> last week in horrible pain due to my back and I was peeing blood

> I swore I had a kidney stone. The STUPID BLANKETY BLANK ER STAFF.

> Did a drug screen on me before giving me any medications to

> relieve my pain. Then after they got the Negative drug screen

> results I got the pain medication. What the hell is wrong with

> people- does not matter if I am stoned out of my mind I had a

> kidney stone and I was in horrible pain. Because they did not see

> in on the CT skan they called it a UTI- but I saw the stone in

> the strainer.

> I have been clean for over 5 years and I sure would not go

> seeking toradol or morphine if I wanted dope I would just take a

> skip and hop over to mexico and get all the cocaine I wanted. But

> I dont want the stupid thing that caused this stupid hepatitis C.

> Sorry I am venting. I guess reba-rage.

> I dont want to kill myself but I do wish many days to just go to

> sleep and not wake up if this is all there is to living. This

> treatment is horrible I want to know what will happen if I stop

> taking it? Start some colloid anything that will make this shit

> feel better.

>

> Re:New to Group

> > Hepatitis C

> > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> > it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> > Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> > transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> > So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> > have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> > full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> > needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> > Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> > pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> > pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

> >

> > rich

> > www.rslaserkits. com

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

bummer.... the ER folk are mostly the better part of medicine, at least most

of the time.

baltimore is somewhat different... junkies with burning stones get pain

meds, no problem.

yeah, waking up still on this planet each day is usually dissapointing for

me unless i was having bad dreams. then to make it worse i listen to talk

radio most of the day while i work... a bad habit i picked up after 9/11.

the weird names of international power players past & present pop into my

consciousness for no reason without invitation or warning, and i mostly

can't even keep them sorted out.

if you stop treatment now, what you've done will be for nothing for sure.

if you're undetectable at this point it's probably worth it to stay the

course if you can?

i don't think CSilver is incompatible with tx drugs, but could possibly

complicate things...don't know. i know someone who took CS all the way

through treatment with no problem and did clear and remains clear. CS is

indeed exc for UTI's. i do recall that milk thistle has the ability to

prevent production of the enzyme that takes the tx drug levels down by

processing them out of the body, so if you take MT the level of the tx drugs

in your system can go higher than planned which isn't cool. i would think

that could be used to advantage if the tx serum levels are monitored the MT

could maybe give the same results with less tx intake, which seems like a

good idea. but i haven't heard of anyone trying to work with it like that.

chlorella, spirulina, chlorophyll, black sesame seeds (ground up), cold

pressed sesame oil, tahini, are all supposed to be real helpful for raising

RBC counts, but i don't know how they effect WBC's... i think they help.

google around and maybe you'll find some affordable goodies you like that

help the WBC's some ... any harmless help in the right direction should be a

good thing, eh?

> Re: Re:New to Group

>

>

> Amen Bob,

>

>

> I am on week 17 just had my interferon shot and taking the

> ribavirin. My white count is down to 1.8. I went to the hospital

> last week in horrible pain due to my back and I was peeing blood

> I swore I had a kidney stone. The STUPID BLANKETY BLANK ER STAFF.

> Did a drug screen on me before giving me any medications to

> relieve my pain. Then after they got the Negative drug screen

> results I got the pain medication. What the hell is wrong with

> people- does not matter if I am stoned out of my mind I had a

> kidney stone and I was in horrible pain. Because they did not see

> in on the CT skan they called it a UTI- but I saw the stone in

> the strainer.

> I have been clean for over 5 years and I sure would not go

> seeking toradol or morphine if I wanted dope I would just take a

> skip and hop over to mexico and get all the cocaine I wanted. But

> I dont want the stupid thing that caused this stupid hepatitis C.

> Sorry I am venting. I guess reba-rage.

> I dont want to kill myself but I do wish many days to just go to

> sleep and not wake up if this is all there is to living. This

> treatment is horrible I want to know what will happen if I stop

> taking it? Start some colloid anything that will make this shit

> feel better.

>

> Re:New to Group

> > Hepatitis C

> > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> > it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> > Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> > transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> > So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> > have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> > full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> > needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> > Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> > pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> > pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

> >

> > rich

> > www.rslaserkits. com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

bummer.... the ER folk are mostly the better part of medicine, at least most

of the time.

baltimore is somewhat different... junkies with burning stones get pain

meds, no problem.

yeah, waking up still on this planet each day is usually dissapointing for

me unless i was having bad dreams. then to make it worse i listen to talk

radio most of the day while i work... a bad habit i picked up after 9/11.

the weird names of international power players past & present pop into my

consciousness for no reason without invitation or warning, and i mostly

can't even keep them sorted out.

if you stop treatment now, what you've done will be for nothing for sure.

if you're undetectable at this point it's probably worth it to stay the

course if you can?

i don't think CSilver is incompatible with tx drugs, but could possibly

complicate things...don't know. i know someone who took CS all the way

through treatment with no problem and did clear and remains clear. CS is

indeed exc for UTI's. i do recall that milk thistle has the ability to

prevent production of the enzyme that takes the tx drug levels down by

processing them out of the body, so if you take MT the level of the tx drugs

in your system can go higher than planned which isn't cool. i would think

that could be used to advantage if the tx serum levels are monitored the MT

could maybe give the same results with less tx intake, which seems like a

good idea. but i haven't heard of anyone trying to work with it like that.

chlorella, spirulina, chlorophyll, black sesame seeds (ground up), cold

pressed sesame oil, tahini, are all supposed to be real helpful for raising

RBC counts, but i don't know how they effect WBC's... i think they help.

google around and maybe you'll find some affordable goodies you like that

help the WBC's some ... any harmless help in the right direction should be a

good thing, eh?

> Re: Re:New to Group

>

>

> Amen Bob,

>

>

> I am on week 17 just had my interferon shot and taking the

> ribavirin. My white count is down to 1.8. I went to the hospital

> last week in horrible pain due to my back and I was peeing blood

> I swore I had a kidney stone. The STUPID BLANKETY BLANK ER STAFF.

> Did a drug screen on me before giving me any medications to

> relieve my pain. Then after they got the Negative drug screen

> results I got the pain medication. What the hell is wrong with

> people- does not matter if I am stoned out of my mind I had a

> kidney stone and I was in horrible pain. Because they did not see

> in on the CT skan they called it a UTI- but I saw the stone in

> the strainer.

> I have been clean for over 5 years and I sure would not go

> seeking toradol or morphine if I wanted dope I would just take a

> skip and hop over to mexico and get all the cocaine I wanted. But

> I dont want the stupid thing that caused this stupid hepatitis C.

> Sorry I am venting. I guess reba-rage.

> I dont want to kill myself but I do wish many days to just go to

> sleep and not wake up if this is all there is to living. This

> treatment is horrible I want to know what will happen if I stop

> taking it? Start some colloid anything that will make this shit

> feel better.

>

> Re:New to Group

> > Hepatitis C

> > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> > it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> > Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> > transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> > So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> > have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> > full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> > needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> > Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> > pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> > pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

> >

> > rich

> > www.rslaserkits. com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

bummer.... the ER folk are mostly the better part of medicine, at least most

of the time.

baltimore is somewhat different... junkies with burning stones get pain

meds, no problem.

yeah, waking up still on this planet each day is usually dissapointing for

me unless i was having bad dreams. then to make it worse i listen to talk

radio most of the day while i work... a bad habit i picked up after 9/11.

the weird names of international power players past & present pop into my

consciousness for no reason without invitation or warning, and i mostly

can't even keep them sorted out.

if you stop treatment now, what you've done will be for nothing for sure.

if you're undetectable at this point it's probably worth it to stay the

course if you can?

i don't think CSilver is incompatible with tx drugs, but could possibly

complicate things...don't know. i know someone who took CS all the way

through treatment with no problem and did clear and remains clear. CS is

indeed exc for UTI's. i do recall that milk thistle has the ability to

prevent production of the enzyme that takes the tx drug levels down by

processing them out of the body, so if you take MT the level of the tx drugs

in your system can go higher than planned which isn't cool. i would think

that could be used to advantage if the tx serum levels are monitored the MT

could maybe give the same results with less tx intake, which seems like a

good idea. but i haven't heard of anyone trying to work with it like that.

chlorella, spirulina, chlorophyll, black sesame seeds (ground up), cold

pressed sesame oil, tahini, are all supposed to be real helpful for raising

RBC counts, but i don't know how they effect WBC's... i think they help.

google around and maybe you'll find some affordable goodies you like that

help the WBC's some ... any harmless help in the right direction should be a

good thing, eh?

> Re: Re:New to Group

>

>

> Amen Bob,

>

>

> I am on week 17 just had my interferon shot and taking the

> ribavirin. My white count is down to 1.8. I went to the hospital

> last week in horrible pain due to my back and I was peeing blood

> I swore I had a kidney stone. The STUPID BLANKETY BLANK ER STAFF.

> Did a drug screen on me before giving me any medications to

> relieve my pain. Then after they got the Negative drug screen

> results I got the pain medication. What the hell is wrong with

> people- does not matter if I am stoned out of my mind I had a

> kidney stone and I was in horrible pain. Because they did not see

> in on the CT skan they called it a UTI- but I saw the stone in

> the strainer.

> I have been clean for over 5 years and I sure would not go

> seeking toradol or morphine if I wanted dope I would just take a

> skip and hop over to mexico and get all the cocaine I wanted. But

> I dont want the stupid thing that caused this stupid hepatitis C.

> Sorry I am venting. I guess reba-rage.

> I dont want to kill myself but I do wish many days to just go to

> sleep and not wake up if this is all there is to living. This

> treatment is horrible I want to know what will happen if I stop

> taking it? Start some colloid anything that will make this shit

> feel better.

>

> Re:New to Group

> > Hepatitis C

> > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> > it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> > Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> > transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> > So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> > have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> > full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> > needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> > Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> > pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> > pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

> >

> > rich

> > www.rslaserkits. com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the good info Bob, and yes the ER people are usually better... just

dont get sick in west texas that is all I am going to say lol.

I do have the milk thistle and I will try to keep on taking this stuff. and I so

understand you I listen to CNN first thing everyday does seem to put you in a

low mood lol but I decided I will try to keep myself stable at least until

November election!!

I think I will have my husband purchase some CS and see if it does anything and

yes my counts are better so .. I just need to hush and keep on keeping on. It is

certainly not worse than living on the streets of Juarez Mexico when I was still

using.

Thanks for having this group and listening to me bitch and moan.

Em

Re:New to Group

> > Hepatitis C

> > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> > it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> > Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> > transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> > So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> > have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> > full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> > needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> > Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> > pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> > pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

> >

> > rich

> > www.rslaserkits. com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the good info Bob, and yes the ER people are usually better... just

dont get sick in west texas that is all I am going to say lol.

I do have the milk thistle and I will try to keep on taking this stuff. and I so

understand you I listen to CNN first thing everyday does seem to put you in a

low mood lol but I decided I will try to keep myself stable at least until

November election!!

I think I will have my husband purchase some CS and see if it does anything and

yes my counts are better so .. I just need to hush and keep on keeping on. It is

certainly not worse than living on the streets of Juarez Mexico when I was still

using.

Thanks for having this group and listening to me bitch and moan.

Em

Re:New to Group

> > Hepatitis C

> > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> > it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> > Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> > transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> > So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> > have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> > full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> > needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> > Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> > pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> > pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

> >

> > rich

> > www.rslaserkits. com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the good info Bob, and yes the ER people are usually better... just

dont get sick in west texas that is all I am going to say lol.

I do have the milk thistle and I will try to keep on taking this stuff. and I so

understand you I listen to CNN first thing everyday does seem to put you in a

low mood lol but I decided I will try to keep myself stable at least until

November election!!

I think I will have my husband purchase some CS and see if it does anything and

yes my counts are better so .. I just need to hush and keep on keeping on. It is

certainly not worse than living on the streets of Juarez Mexico when I was still

using.

Thanks for having this group and listening to me bitch and moan.

Em

Re:New to Group

> > Hepatitis C

> > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> > it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> > Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> > transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> > So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> > have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> > full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> > needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> > Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> > pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> > pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

> >

> > rich

> > www.rslaserkits. com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the good info Bob, and yes the ER people are usually better... just

dont get sick in west texas that is all I am going to say lol.

I do have the milk thistle and I will try to keep on taking this stuff. and I so

understand you I listen to CNN first thing everyday does seem to put you in a

low mood lol but I decided I will try to keep myself stable at least until

November election!!

I think I will have my husband purchase some CS and see if it does anything and

yes my counts are better so .. I just need to hush and keep on keeping on. It is

certainly not worse than living on the streets of Juarez Mexico when I was still

using.

Thanks for having this group and listening to me bitch and moan.

Em

Re:New to Group

> > Hepatitis C

> > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> > it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> > Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> > transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> > So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> > have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> > full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> > needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> > Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> > pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> > pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

> >

> > rich

> > www.rslaserkits. com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes I am 1a/b not sure what that is? what is the B part or I guess I will ask

the doc next visit. But I know it is the hardest to treat or so she said. Of

course when I do something bad I do it all the way!! lol

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I am 1a/b not sure what that is? what is the B part or I guess I will ask

the doc next visit. But I know it is the hardest to treat or so she said. Of

course when I do something bad I do it all the way!! lol

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I am 1a/b not sure what that is? what is the B part or I guess I will ask

the doc next visit. But I know it is the hardest to treat or so she said. Of

course when I do something bad I do it all the way!! lol

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I am 1a/b not sure what that is? what is the B part or I guess I will ask

the doc next visit. But I know it is the hardest to treat or so she said. Of

course when I do something bad I do it all the way!! lol

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi I think it's a strain or species. I was told 1a is the hardest to

cure. I have never seen it put 1a/b, but that does'nt

mean their is one :-) Wish you all the luck!

emily_sweethang@... wrote: Yes I am 1a/b

not sure what that is? what is the B part or I guess I will ask the doc next

visit. But I know it is the hardest to treat or so she said. Of course when I do

something bad I do it all the way!! lol

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi I think it's a strain or species. I was told 1a is the hardest to

cure. I have never seen it put 1a/b, but that does'nt

mean their is one :-) Wish you all the luck!

emily_sweethang@... wrote: Yes I am 1a/b

not sure what that is? what is the B part or I guess I will ask the doc next

visit. But I know it is the hardest to treat or so she said. Of course when I do

something bad I do it all the way!! lol

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi I think it's a strain or species. I was told 1a is the hardest to

cure. I have never seen it put 1a/b, but that does'nt

mean their is one :-) Wish you all the luck!

emily_sweethang@... wrote: Yes I am 1a/b

not sure what that is? what is the B part or I guess I will ask the doc next

visit. But I know it is the hardest to treat or so she said. Of course when I do

something bad I do it all the way!! lol

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi I think it's a strain or species. I was told 1a is the hardest to

cure. I have never seen it put 1a/b, but that does'nt

mean their is one :-) Wish you all the luck!

emily_sweethang@... wrote: Yes I am 1a/b

not sure what that is? what is the B part or I guess I will ask the doc next

visit. But I know it is the hardest to treat or so she said. Of course when I do

something bad I do it all the way!! lol

Re:New to Group

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 5:02 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You not alone. I work through treatment and all , then last year

> it got so bad had to cut back on my hours from 8 till 6 a day.

> Company was fine with that then in December got my call and had a

> transplant. Company had gone through a buy out with new owners .

> So only took a little over a month off after the operation and

> have been working half days (against doc's orders),but doing a

> full days work since . On Monday went it and was told no longer

> needed after 20 day short of 19 years.

> Luckily My side business picked up this week also, not enough to

> pay bills but will get by. As severance they did say they would

> pay for my cobra insurance for 18 months time will tell.

>

> rich

> www.rslaserkits. com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>