Re: How the appointment went (Re: 1st appt with Orthopod surgeon)

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Sam where did you find this doctor? Was he assigned to you by workmans comp.?

Janice

1st appt with Orthopod surgeon

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> > I'm going to my first appointment with an orthopedic surgeon tomorrow (Nov

30) at the University of Washington Med Center.

> > I'm bringing my imaging.

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> > Is there anything in particular I should be asking at this appointment?

I've never been to an orthopedic surgeon before so I am clueless.

> > I am both excited to get vthe basll rolling, but also scared crap-less.

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> > Sam

> > (lower back ow-ey)

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I was referred by a new pcp after I pushed for it.

I've been trying for the last 18 months to get my injury addressed.

It's been very frustrating.

The ortho doc was supposed to be a very good one.

I really wasn't expecting to get treated so poorly.

Could it be the cooties?

Sam

(freaked out)

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> > > Sam have you ever had back surgery? An Orthepidic doctor usually

operates on bones these days and a nusrosurgeon usually operates on the back.

There are many questions to be asked before you let anyone cut your back open.

What kinds of injuries do you have? Have you been diagnosed with any specific

problem like a slipped disc or ruptured disc? Do NOT allow anyone to put a

needle in your spine for any reason. They are very dangerous and can cause

Arachnoiditis a progressive disease that will make your life hell.

> > > Janice

> > > 1st appt with Orthopod surgeon

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> > > I'm going to my first appointment with an orthopedic surgeon tomorrow

(Nov 30) at the University of Washington Med Center.

> > > I'm bringing my imaging.

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> > > Is there anything in particular I should be asking at this appointment?

I've never been to an orthopedic surgeon before so I am clueless.

> > > I am both excited to get vthe basll rolling, but also scared crap-less.

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> > > Sam

> > > (lower back ow-ey)

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When you see the doctor do you tell them how you got hurt and what the

chiropractor did to you? If you do this could be part of why your getting poor

service and bad attitudes. Doctors cover for each other so any doctor would be

very reluctant to tell you another doctor hurt you. The further away you can go

is the best solution. But also dont' mention the chiropractor next time until

the doctor has addressed the injury. Have you had an MRI? If so what were the

results? Janice

1st appt with Orthopod surgeon

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> > > I'm going to my first appointment with an orthopedic surgeon tomorrow

(Nov 30) at the University of Washington Med Center.

> > > I'm bringing my imaging.

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> > > Is there anything in particular I should be asking at this appointment?

I've never been to an orthopedic surgeon before so I am clueless.

> > > I am both excited to get vthe basll rolling, but also scared crap-less.

> > >

> > > Sam

> > > (lower back ow-ey)

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Well, yes I've told them how the injury occured.

Maybe I should have said I was side impacted by a car when I was turned to back

my own car out. Similar type of injury occurs that way. But then again, I have a

very hard time lying because I can only remember the truth.

Yes I have an MRI. Shows the broken bones with displacement. Also appears to be

one vertebra that seems to be rotated, if that makes sense.

In my 58 years I've had 4 very serious traumatic accident injuries to my back.

They are all documented. It's amazing I wan't injured more than I was

considering the nature of the accidents. What's so blankety-blank infuriating is

those accident injuries are 'now' being blamed on osteoporosis as tho I never

had the equestrian accident, never was nearly crushed, never tripped and fell

backwards down stairs, never got twisted and smashed down on by that

chiropractor. This is just total BS and I'm getting angrier and angrier.

ARG!!!!!

Sam

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> > > Never had back surgery. I'm going to a bone guy, not a neuro guy.

> > > Fought the idiots up here long and hard to get treatment, and am finally

getting it, but have to go to another city far away...

> > >

> > > My injury on May 29, 2009 came from a chiropractor twisting me at the

waist and then smashing down on my hip. Extreme rotation with traumatic impact.

Broke at least both L5 transverse process's. My pelvis is now higher up on the

right than the left. The broken transverse process's are laying over the top of

the sacrum limiting movement. I'm all lean-ing and twisted. Stuff like that.

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> > > I don't believe there's nerve or spinal cord involvement. However, L5

might be messed up...I just don't know. I think they are going to do more

imaging because what I have now is pretty pathetic.

> > >

> > > So tomorrow I drive 108 miles south to Seattle, see the bone guy, get

better imaging, and either wait around until the guy sees it, or drive back home

and wait for word. So, like I don't know what sort of specic questions to

ask...the doc is apparently quite good.

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> > > Sam

> > > (58yr old cutey pie great granny)

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You don't have to lie you tell the truth only after he tells you what is wrong

and what needs to be done for it. What sent you to the chiropractor. Why did you

go in the first place. Just say I need your opinion because I hurt myself and no

one seems to want to help me. After he tells you what is wrong an dwhat he feels

needs to be done then tell him how it got hurt the second time. Doctors don't

tell the truth when it comes to other doctors hurting people they just won't .

My sister went to the spien specialist and he wanted an MRI the technician was

going to make her lay flat on her bck she told him she couldn't due to pain she

had had 2 back surgeries already . He got a little huffy and got awedge for her

back but when he started to lay her down she told him to be careful as she has

oeteoporosis a really bad case. He shoved her down and when he did he broke her

back. Now her doctor is a pulmonologist and the spine doctor wants nothing to do

with her. She didn't sue either.

Janice

Re: How the appointment went (Re: 1st appt

with Orthopod surgeon)

Well, yes I've told them how the injury occured.

Maybe I should have said I was side impacted by a car when I was turned to

back my own car out. Similar type of injury occurs that way. But then again, I

have a very hard time lying because I can only remember the truth.

Yes I have an MRI. Shows the broken bones with displacement. Also appears to

be one vertebra that seems to be rotated, if that makes sense.

In my 58 years I've had 4 very serious traumatic accident injuries to my back.

They are all documented. It's amazing I wan't injured more than I was

considering the nature of the accidents. What's so blankety-blank infuriating is

those accident injuries are 'now' being blamed on osteoporosis as tho I never

had the equestrian accident, never was nearly crushed, never tripped and fell

backwards down stairs, never got twisted and smashed down on by that

chiropractor. This is just total BS and I'm getting angrier and angrier.

ARG!!!!!

Sam

> > >

> > > Never had back surgery. I'm going to a bone guy, not a neuro guy.

> > > Fought the idiots up here long and hard to get treatment, and am finally

getting it, but have to go to another city far away...

> > >

> > > My injury on May 29, 2009 came from a chiropractor twisting me at the

waist and then smashing down on my hip. Extreme rotation with traumatic impact.

Broke at least both L5 transverse process's. My pelvis is now higher up on the

right than the left. The broken transverse process's are laying over the top of

the sacrum limiting movement. I'm all lean-ing and twisted. Stuff like that.

> > >

> > > I don't believe there's nerve or spinal cord involvement. However, L5

might be messed up...I just don't know. I think they are going to do more

imaging because what I have now is pretty pathetic.

> > >

> > > So tomorrow I drive 108 miles south to Seattle, see the bone guy, get

better imaging, and either wait around until the guy sees it, or drive back home

and wait for word. So, like I don't know what sort of specic questions to

ask...the doc is apparently quite good.

> > >

> > > Sam

> > > (58yr old cutey pie great granny)

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So, I just go in cold turkey?

Not sure that could be possible since I have to go by referral so

health coverage pays, and they always send records ahead of time.

I'm on disability. Maybe I should go to Canada.

I went to the chiro because he was $42 and PT was $75.

I only needed the upper left part of my sacrum pushed back into place.

Uh, that's from the 1987 equestrian accident - PT taught me how to push the

sacrum back in place, but this time it was a little more 'out' than usual. It

should have been easy peezy for the chiro to do that, but that's not what he

ended up doing.

I'm about ready to go back to that chiro and tell him:

" Look, you injured me, so I want you to help fix me. "

He knows he hurt me and he feels bad about it. I know it wasn't on purpose, but

I now have a life altering injury.

The biggest problem is that my severe trauma accident injuries are being

regarded as osteoporosis, instead of what they are. Plus I'm teeny weeny little

dinky petite, under 5ft tall.

I'm not going to shut up a be a cripple the rest of my life.

Sam

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> > > > Never had back surgery. I'm going to a bone guy, not a neuro guy.

> > > > Fought the idiots up here long and hard to get treatment, and am

finally getting it, but have to go to another city far away...

> > > >

> > > > My injury on May 29, 2009 came from a chiropractor twisting me at the

waist and then smashing down on my hip. Extreme rotation with traumatic impact.

Broke at least both L5 transverse process's. My pelvis is now higher up on the

right than the left. The broken transverse process's are laying over the top of

the sacrum limiting movement. I'm all lean-ing and twisted. Stuff like that.

> > > >

> > > > I don't believe there's nerve or spinal cord involvement. However, L5

might be messed up...I just don't know. I think they are going to do more

imaging because what I have now is pretty pathetic.

> > > >

> > > > So tomorrow I drive 108 miles south to Seattle, see the bone guy, get

better imaging, and either wait around until the guy sees it, or drive back home

and wait for word. So, like I don't know what sort of specic questions to

ask...the doc is apparently quite good.

> > > >

> > > > Sam

> > > > (58yr old cutey pie great granny)

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Sam do not under any circumstances go to that doctr and say anything. You

jeporidize (sp.) any legal case you may have. Also I dont' know where you live

but if your considering suing this doctor the time limits are usually 1 to 2

years. However you probably dont' have a case unless you can prove that he

injured you. Do you have x-rays or MRI pictures before you went to this doctor

anything to prove what you looked like then and now? I don't know what your

future plans are btu for now you need to find a doctor who can look at your

records give you a firm diagnosis and get help for yourself. I was thinking

about this earlier because I am a huge advocate of telling the truth at all

times. What you might say is I went to the chiropractor hoping he could put me

back together but I am still going down hill even after I saw the chiropractor.

Just my opinion

Janice

Re: How the appointment went (Re: 1st appt

with Orthopod surgeon)

So, I just go in cold turkey?

Not sure that could be possible since I have to go by referral so

health coverage pays, and they always send records ahead of time.

I'm on disability. Maybe I should go to Canada.

I went to the chiro because he was $42 and PT was $75.

I only needed the upper left part of my sacrum pushed back into place.

Uh, that's from the 1987 equestrian accident - PT taught me how to push the

sacrum back in place, but this time it was a little more 'out' than usual. It

should have been easy peezy for the chiro to do that, but that's not what he

ended up doing.

I'm about ready to go back to that chiro and tell him:

" Look, you injured me, so I want you to help fix me. "

He knows he hurt me and he feels bad about it. I know it wasn't on purpose,

but I now have a life altering injury.

The biggest problem is that my severe trauma accident injuries are being

regarded as osteoporosis, instead of what they are. Plus I'm teeny weeny little

dinky petite, under 5ft tall.

I'm not going to shut up a be a cripple the rest of my life.

Sam

> > > >

> > > > Never had back surgery. I'm going to a bone guy, not a neuro guy.

> > > > Fought the idiots up here long and hard to get treatment, and am

finally getting it, but have to go to another city far away...

> > > >

> > > > My injury on May 29, 2009 came from a chiropractor twisting me at the

waist and then smashing down on my hip. Extreme rotation with traumatic impact.

Broke at least both L5 transverse process's. My pelvis is now higher up on the

right than the left. The broken transverse process's are laying over the top of

the sacrum limiting movement. I'm all lean-ing and twisted. Stuff like that.

> > > >

> > > > I don't believe there's nerve or spinal cord involvement. However, L5

might be messed up...I just don't know. I think they are going to do more

imaging because what I have now is pretty pathetic.

> > > >

> > > > So tomorrow I drive 108 miles south to Seattle, see the bone guy, get

better imaging, and either wait around until the guy sees it, or drive back home

and wait for word. So, like I don't know what sort of specic questions to

ask...the doc is apparently quite good.

> > > >

> > > > Sam

> > > > (58yr old cutey pie great granny)

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MRI from 2001 and a chest x-ray from 2005 or 2006 I think is the last imaging

I've had pre-injury. Loads of fotos pre-injury including me on my motorcycle,

and a few post injury.

Soooo then, I shouldn't have a chat with the chiro that hurt me?

Ok.

I'm in Washington State and up here we have 3 years from the date of injury to

file a case. I have an attorney up here but we're in the info gathering stage

for the time being. By the way, one of my sisters is an attorney, but in another

state.

Sam

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> > You don't have to lie you tell the truth only after he tells you what is

wrong and what needs to be done for it. What sent you to the chiropractor. Why

did you go in the first place. Just say I need your opinion because I hurt

myself and no one seems to want to help me. After he tells you what is wrong an

dwhat he feels needs to be done then tell him how it got hurt the second time.

Doctors don't tell the truth when it comes to other doctors hurting people they

just won't . My sister went to the spien specialist and he wanted an MRI the

technician was going to make her lay flat on her bck she told him she couldn't

due to pain she had had 2 back surgeries already . He got a little huffy and got

awedge for her back but when he started to lay her down she told him to be

careful as she has oeteoporosis a really bad case. He shoved her down and when

he did he broke her back. Now her doctor is a pulmonologist and the spine doctor

wants nothing to do with her. She didn't sue either.

> > Janice

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appt with Orthopod surgeon)

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> > Well, yes I've told them how the injury occured.

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I would not have any conversation with the doctor who hurt you. It gives him to

much time to check you out and find you doing things you should not be doing.

This is just my opinion. Talk to your sister the attorney see what she has to

say.

Janice

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