My last post...

September 29, 2008

And I thank you for your courtesy.

>

> I did not come here to spam, agravate, or piss anyone off.

>

> I came here for one purpose only and that was to inform you of the

> verifiable fact that the Worlds Elites are engaged in a global genocide.

>

> There is ample information and links in the posts I have already made

> for you to follow up the question on your own to verify it for yourself.

>

> If you don't have children, or grandchildren I guess it may not matter

> to you, but if you do you owe it to them to research what I have

> brought to your attention.

>

> Thank you for your time and I wish you all well.

August 15, 2009

This will be my last post...and as such will probably be lengthy, but I ask that

you bear with me.

Before I say anything else, I feel firmly pressed to address some things that

have been said...and to voice a few explanations. Once I have said my peace, It

should not be spoken of again...for the sake of everyone in the group...these

unnecessary blowouts are destructive to an environment that is supposed to be

uplifting, caring and educational. Over the years I have seen a few individuals

who come and go, but leave toxic waste in their wake. This needs to stop.

Now, I want to begin with s posts . I don't know how clearer I can

possibly be with such a short sentence...nor can I fathom how it could be

miscontrued in the way it has. It seems that only ONE person seems to have

trouble understanding what I wrote, and I have tried to clarify MANY times now,

and every time I do I am mocked and disrespected further by this person.

For the LAST time ... and I'm going to back up to the very beginning so

you will hopefully get it!

" Who's paying for this? As I last knew, the prodisc was like the others, still

in clinical trials. As such, it is only available here for ONE level, and no

other levels can be fused or even diseased or need surgery. "

Followed by another lengthy and borderline rude response by , telling me

he was indeed having it paid for by his insurance, to which I then responded...

" Its probably because you are in Europe..I don't think it's passed FDA here

yet...but I could be wrong! "

Now, for anyone who does not understand this...it became obvious to me that he

was having surgery in Germany because the TYPE of surgery he is having...and the

fact that he is having insurance pay for it. In the US, the surgery is only FDA

cleared for clinical trial and as such, health insurance is not paying for it

(except on a rare case by case basis when the MD battles it out with them). The

disc replacement trials also do not allow for multi-level Pro-Disc

implants...which further led me to believe he was having it done in Germany, as

I know they have been doing such surgeries there for quite some time. I can

assure that if he were not already stationed there, he would not be having this

surgery paid for, and would likely not be having it at all unles he had the

cash.

Why still cannot understand the simplicity of those words...I do not

understand..and honestly it isn't my problem.

Also, please note the use of " I could be wrong " ...for those of you who think I

think I know everything. Those who have been on here for years have seen that I

am always ready to admit when I have found out I was inaccurate and/or just

plain wrong. So no, I do NOT think I know everything. I sure as heck know a

lot...and thats not being boastful. I have taken my 16 years of pain as well

as my occupational experience, and tried to turn it into something that will

help someone else in a way that I WISH I HAD BEEN. There are many times I don't

feel like answering a question that I have already answered twenty times

before...but we have new members all the time. I tell myself that I just won't

answer this one again...but then I actually feel GUILTY if I don't. They need

their questions answered, so I answer yet again. And yes, I have devoted a lot

of my miniscule spare time trying to help people on here...for no other reasons

than I have been in their shoes

and I want them to have the info they need to be empowered to help themselves.

Info that I never had.

I also want to address why included the following sentence in his

scathing email...and it's ME people are jumping all over...

" So, you dumb FUCK! You are showing how stupid you are. "

Still people are coming out of the woodwork to slam me for asking the group to

decide if we are a bunch of babies who cant handle that other people have

disagreements that DON'T include them...or are we going to toughen up a little

and mind our own buisness...

And yes ...many surgeons DO travel over the world to teach surgery...I

never said many travel to teach Pro-Disc...I said many travel to teach. And many

spine surgeons travel to teach.Why did I even make that comment....because you

needed to be taken down a notch. A traveling teaching surgeon does not make him

great. His skill and decision making behind closed doors make him great or not.

And ask how many people on here believe that their spine surgeon is one of the

" Best in the country " or " One of the best in the world " . Trust me, many people

do. Even people in back-woods states and communities...where the worlds best

surgeons do not practice.

, many people on here will give me credibility. You are a new voice with a

big mouth amongst some who've been here a long time. I've seen people like you

come and go, and you won't be the last one.

My words are not gospel, and I would hope are never taken that way. I am human,

and human is to be fallible. And I do not have a lot of time to keep up on the

newest data...which is one reason why I am always ready to be wrong. And I will

try my best not to lose any sleep over the fact that I do not impress you...

And trust me, there are a LOT of things I have shared that one will not find

anywhere on the internet. One might be surprised how little of the knowledge a

spine surgeon has ,he ever shares with his patients. But I asked questions, I

watched what they did...I LEARNED from some of the best... I was suprprised how

complicated the spine is and how little people (like me) knew about it. this is

why I share it here.

And just so you know ( and you can ask any nurse or doctor at any teaching

hospital to verify this) medical students know diddly squat. Nurses know FAR

more about medicine than the lowly medical student. They are treated even lower

than housekeeping in the hospital. Actually...I'd LOVE some examples of what

your wife has done that is " far more than what I have done " . Just out of

curiosity. Medical school is NOT where they learn to be physicians. THAT is done

in residency. Kudos to your wife for deciding to go to medical school, even

though the future for docs is bleak...I hope she does well. But man, don't add

in about your wife being in medical school as any credibility. That just made

you look ridiculous. And trust me...there was a LOT more to my job description

than holding retractors and sucking blood. That was really ignorant of you to

mention...how do you even know what my title was? Hmm? Do you know my

background? My education? Learn to stop while

the stopping is good...ok?

I don't recall anyone questioning my experience, and at no point did I feel

defensive. Just to lay that straight. And no, I haven't WRITTEN any books

yet...but I am CURRENTLY writing one...thanks for asking!

As far as attacking my " people skills " I see patients in the office and treat

them on my own for the most part...and they now prefer to see me because of my

empathy and respectful manner with patients. But this is not a doctors

office...and I have the right to, on occasion, tell someone what I think of

them. Do I think is 'simple'..yes I do. Apparently has a think skull as

well. And 'simple' was the nicest way I could think of saying it, compared to

what I was thinking. This website is for adults. As adults, disagreements should

always be allowed. They should always be respectful, in a perfect world...but if

not, I don't feel others should take personal offense to things said to another

individual....with the exception of vulgar language like s' use of the " F

word " . And no, I don't think we NEED to be courteous to one another. Would it be

nice, sure. But if someone is going to start questioning my intelligence, my

integrity, my honesty and

my professionalism...if someone is going to be snide and rude...I DO have a

right to be DIS-courteous to them...without everyone getting their panties in a

bunch. Got that Mystic-Maidenxx?

AND I do think that could have emailed me personally if he wanted to rant

on the way he did, and keep it off the posts.

Now that I got most of that off my chest, I will continue with saying my

farewells.

I'm tired. Tired of trying to help people who refuse to help themselves. Tired

of answering the same questions over and over again. Tired of caring. Tired of

dealing with " difficult " people.

I have met some fantastic people on here who have touched my life in ways I

didn't expect. I hope that I have done the same for others. It's time for me to

leave. I am going to focus on my writing and I will always be available to those

who would like to email me personally. tpowell1977@....

I wish the best for ALL of you on your journey/fight to a pain free life.

Best,

in RI

In a message dated 8/14/09 2:07:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

cdnlager2001 writes:

> Now , who is the IGNORANT one, I have not once called you a name,

> used any profanity. I notice that many people who are so defensive have

> something to hide. So, you dumb FUCK! You are showing how stupid you are. If

the

> FDA approves something, guess where they approved it do be used. YES, that

> is right in the United States of America. So, let me make it more

> clear....FDA approved = able to use in the USA. Now, the PRODisc people have

made

> clear rules for training before any surgeon can use this device. Perhaps you

> should read their web sites...

>

> As far as seeing any of the things listed, sure I have seen them...on the

> internet, anyone can gain the knowledge you have by reading. You clearly

> have some knowledge and like I mentioned in the last email I acknowledge

> that, however for you to start name calling, and commenting on intelligence,

> really lowers yours and your credibility.

>

> If I have offended you, then so be it, and many SURGEONS DO NOT TRAVEL THE

> WORLD TEACHING THE PRODISC technique. Yes, many travel, but not to

> TEACH....

>

> You do not impress me, and I would hope that anyone that comes to this

> site DO NOT use your words as the GOSPEL. This is a good site to share

> experience, but I can assure you TRACY you have NO credibility, NO authority,

and

> NO PLACE to tell people what to do and what not to do. I am not suggesting

> this is what you do, but your rant about what you have done, does not

> qualify you as an EXPERT. I assure you, that your opinion is not being seeked

by

> surgeons, you would never be asked to testify in a court of law as an

> EXPERT. So, don't make it sound like you are one. Because you suck out blood,

> and maybe hold something to the side so that a Surgeon can gain access to

> something means nothing to me. My wife is in Medical school, and she has done

> MORE than you have as far as putting your hands on anything, and she will

> always do more than you.

>

> Stop, trying to sound like something you are not.

>

> Good Day!

>

> P.S.

>

> Stop being so defensive, to have someone question your experience should

> not be offensive to you. That is very unproffessional. I am wondering how

> many books you have written with your EXPERT experience. Now, I know you are

> going to call me names cause you never said you were an EXPERT, however

> based on your comments, this is what you are trying to imply.

>

> >

>

August 15, 2009

I have not been a member very long but have always been impressed with

and looked forward to reading her replies. I do hope that you

will reconsider and stay with the group. Lois

On 8/14/09, Babbitt <tpowell1977@...> wrote:

> This will be my last post...and as such will probably be lengthy, but I ask

> that you bear with me.

>

> Before I say anything else, I feel firmly pressed to address some things

> that have been said...and to voice a few explanations. Once I have said my

> peace, It should not be spoken of again...for the sake of everyone in the

> group...these unnecessary blowouts are destructive to an environment that is

> supposed to be uplifting, caring and educational. Over the years I have

> seen a few individuals who come and go, but leave toxic waste in their wake.

> This needs to stop.

>

> Now, I want to begin with s posts . I don't know how clearer I can

> possibly be with such a short sentence...nor can I fathom how it could be

> miscontrued in the way it has. It seems that only ONE person seems to have

> trouble understanding what I wrote, and I have tried to clarify MANY times

> now, and every time I do I am mocked and disrespected further by this

> person.

> For the LAST time ... and I'm going to back up to the very beginning

> so you will hopefully get it!

> " Who's paying for this? As I last knew, the prodisc was like the others,

> still in clinical trials. As such, it is only available here for ONE level,

> and no other levels can be fused or even diseased or need surgery. "

>

> Followed by another lengthy and borderline rude response by , telling

> me he was indeed having it paid for by his insurance, to which I then

> responded...

>

> " Its probably because you are in Europe..I don't think it's passed FDA here

> yet...but I could be wrong! "

>

> Now, for anyone who does not understand this...it became obvious to me that

> he was having surgery in Germany because the TYPE of surgery he is

> having...and the fact that he is having insurance pay for it. In the US, the

> surgery is only FDA cleared for clinical trial and as such, health insurance

> is not paying for it (except on a rare case by case basis when the MD

> battles it out with them). The disc replacement trials also do not allow for

> multi-level Pro-Disc implants...which further led me to believe he was

> having it done in Germany, as I know they have been doing such surgeries

> there for quite some time. I can assure that if he were not already

> stationed there, he would not be having this surgery paid for, and would

> likely not be having it at all unles he had the cash.

>

> Why still cannot understand the simplicity of those words...I do not

> understand..and honestly it isn't my problem.

>

> Also, please note the use of " I could be wrong " ...for those of you who think

> I think I know everything. Those who have been on here for years have seen

> that I am always ready to admit when I have found out I was inaccurate

> and/or just plain wrong. So no, I do NOT think I know everything. I sure as

> heck know a lot...and thats not being boastful. I have taken my 16 years of

> pain as well as my occupational experience, and tried to turn it into

> something that will help someone else in a way that I WISH I HAD BEEN. There

> are many times I don't feel like answering a question that I have already

> answered twenty times before...but we have new members all the time. I tell

> myself that I just won't answer this one again...but then I actually feel

> GUILTY if I don't. They need their questions answered, so I answer yet

> again. And yes, I have devoted a lot of my miniscule spare time trying to

> help people on here...for no other reasons than I have been in their shoes

> and I want them to have the info they need to be empowered to help

> themselves. Info that I never had.

>

> I also want to address why included the following sentence in his

> scathing email...and it's ME people are jumping all over...

> " So, you dumb FUCK! You are showing how stupid you are. "

> Still people are coming out of the woodwork to slam me for asking the group

> to decide if we are a bunch of babies who cant handle that other people have

> disagreements that DON'T include them...or are we going to toughen up a

> little and mind our own buisness...

>

> And yes ...many surgeons DO travel over the world to teach surgery...I

> never said many travel to teach Pro-Disc...I said many travel to teach. And

> many spine surgeons travel to teach.Why did I even make that

> comment....because you needed to be taken down a notch. A traveling teaching

> surgeon does not make him great. His skill and decision making behind closed

> doors make him great or not. And ask how many people on here believe that

> their spine surgeon is one of the " Best in the country " or " One of the best

> in the world " . Trust me, many people do. Even people in back-woods states

> and communities...where the worlds best surgeons do not practice.

>

> , many people on here will give me credibility. You are a new voice

> with a big mouth amongst some who've been here a long time. I've seen people

> like you come and go, and you won't be the last one.

> My words are not gospel, and I would hope are never taken that way. I am

> human, and human is to be fallible. And I do not have a lot of time to keep

> up on the newest data...which is one reason why I am always ready to be

> wrong. And I will try my best not to lose any sleep over the fact that I do

> not impress you...

> And trust me, there are a LOT of things I have shared that one will not find

> anywhere on the internet. One might be surprised how little of the knowledge

> a spine surgeon has ,he ever shares with his patients. But I asked

> questions, I watched what they did...I LEARNED from some of the best... I

> was suprprised how complicated the spine is and how little people (like me)

> knew about it. this is why I share it here.

>

> And just so you know ( and you can ask any nurse or doctor at any teaching

> hospital to verify this) medical students know diddly squat. Nurses know FAR

> more about medicine than the lowly medical student. They are treated even

> lower than housekeeping in the hospital. Actually...I'd LOVE some examples

> of what your wife has done that is " far more than what I have done " . Just

> out of curiosity. Medical school is NOT where they learn to be physicians.

> THAT is done in residency. Kudos to your wife for deciding to go to medical

> school, even though the future for docs is bleak...I hope she does well. But

> man, don't add in about your wife being in medical school as any

> credibility. That just made you look ridiculous. And trust me...there was a

> LOT more to my job description than holding retractors and sucking blood.

> That was really ignorant of you to mention...how do you even know what my

> title was? Hmm? Do you know my background? My education? Learn to stop while

> the stopping is good...ok?

>

> I don't recall anyone questioning my experience, and at no point did I feel

> defensive. Just to lay that straight. And no, I haven't WRITTEN any books

> yet...but I am CURRENTLY writing one...thanks for asking!

>

> As far as attacking my " people skills " I see patients in the office and

> treat them on my own for the most part...and they now prefer to see me

> because of my empathy and respectful manner with patients. But this is not a

> doctors office...and I have the right to, on occasion, tell someone what I

> think of them. Do I think is 'simple'..yes I do. Apparently has a

> think skull as well. And 'simple' was the nicest way I could think of saying

> it, compared to what I was thinking. This website is for adults. As adults,

> disagreements should always be allowed. They should always be respectful, in

> a perfect world...but if not, I don't feel others should take personal

> offense to things said to another individual....with the exception of vulgar

> language like s' use of the " F word " . And no, I don't think we NEED to

> be courteous to one another. Would it be nice, sure. But if someone is going

> to start questioning my intelligence, my integrity, my honesty and

> my professionalism...if someone is going to be snide and rude...I DO have a

> right to be DIS-courteous to them...without everyone getting their panties

> in a bunch. Got that Mystic-Maidenxx?

> AND I do think that could have emailed me personally if he wanted to

> rant on the way he did, and keep it off the posts.

>

> Now that I got most of that off my chest, I will continue with saying my

> farewells.

>

> I'm tired. Tired of trying to help people who refuse to help themselves.

> Tired of answering the same questions over and over again. Tired of caring.

> Tired of dealing with " difficult " people.

>

> I have met some fantastic people on here who have touched my life in ways I

> didn't expect. I hope that I have done the same for others. It's time for me

> to leave. I am going to focus on my writing and I will always be available

> to those who would like to email me personally. tpowell1977@....

>

> I wish the best for ALL of you on your journey/fight to a pain free life.

>

> Best,

>

> in RI

>

> In a message dated 8/14/09 2:07:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> cdnlager2001 writes:

>

>> Now , who is the IGNORANT one, I have not once called you a name,

>> used any profanity. I notice that many people who are so defensive have

>> something to hide. So, you dumb FUCK! You are showing how stupid you are.

>> If the

>> FDA approves something, guess where they approved it do be used. YES, that

>>

>> is right in the United States of America. So, let me make it more

>> clear....FDA approved = able to use in the USA. Now, the PRODisc people

>> have made

>> clear rules for training before any surgeon can use this device. Perhaps

>> you

>> should read their web sites...

>>

>> As far as seeing any of the things listed, sure I have seen them...on the

>> internet, anyone can gain the knowledge you have by reading. You clearly

>> have some knowledge and like I mentioned in the last email I acknowledge

>> that, however for you to start name calling, and commenting on

>> intelligence,

>> really lowers yours and your credibility.

>>

>> If I have offended you, then so be it, and many SURGEONS DO NOT TRAVEL THE

>>

>> WORLD TEACHING THE PRODISC technique. Yes, many travel, but not to

>> TEACH....

>>

>> You do not impress me, and I would hope that anyone that comes to this

>> site DO NOT use your words as the GOSPEL. This is a good site to share

>> experience, but I can assure you TRACY you have NO credibility, NO

>> authority, and

>> NO PLACE to tell people what to do and what not to do. I am not suggesting

>>

>> this is what you do, but your rant about what you have done, does not

>> qualify you as an EXPERT. I assure you, that your opinion is not being

>> seeked by

>> surgeons, you would never be asked to testify in a court of law as an

>> EXPERT. So, don't make it sound like you are one. Because you suck out

>> blood,

>> and maybe hold something to the side so that a Surgeon can gain access to

>> something means nothing to me. My wife is in Medical school, and she has

>> done

>> MORE than you have as far as putting your hands on anything, and she will

>> always do more than you.

>>

>> Stop, trying to sound like something you are not.

>>

>> Good Day!

>>

>> P.S.

>>

>> Stop being so defensive, to have someone question your experience should

>> not be offensive to you. That is very unproffessional. I am wondering how

>> many books you have written with your EXPERT experience. Now, I know you

>> are

>> going to call me names cause you never said you were an EXPERT, however

>> based on your comments, this is what you are trying to imply.

>>

>> >

>>

>

August 15, 2009

I did indeed get it Tracey,

Good luck with your book and I am

sure you will be

very good at it until someone gives you negative feed back about it! God

help

those poor souls___ Got it Tracey.

In a message dated 8/15/09 1:07:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mickyk13@... writes:

> to start questioning my intelligence, my integrity, my honesty and

> >my professionalism...if someone is going to be snide and rude...I DO have

> a

> >right to be DIS-courteous to them...without everyone getting their

> panties

> >in a bunch. Got that Mystic-Maidenxx?

>

August 15, 2009

Appears you have alot of problems, Maybe you bring out the a--holes in

people.

Hey! There you go___ maybe you could write a book on that!

In a message dated 8/15/09 1:27:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tpowell1977@... writes:

> wow. I don't have a problem with negative feedback. I have a problem with

> snide assholes.

> --- Babbitt

>

August 15, 2009

wow. I don't have a problem with negative feedback. I have a problem with snide

assholes.

--- Babbitt

________________________________

From: " MysticMaidenxx@... " <MysticMaidenxx@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 12:09:59 PM

Subject: Re: My last post...

I did indeed get it Tracey,

Good luck with your book and I am

sure you will be

very good at it until someone gives you negative feed back about it! God

help

those poor souls___ Got it Tracey.

In a message dated 8/15/09 1:07:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mickyk13gmail (DOT) com writes:

> to start questioning my intelligence, my integrity, my honesty and

> >my professionalism. ..if someone is going to be snide and rude...I DO have

> a

> >right to be DIS-courteous to them...without everyone getting their

> panties

> >in a bunch. Got that Mystic-Maidenxx?

>

August 15, 2009

I have been on this list for approximately six months. I am also a member of

several other lists on various topics. I have two questions:

1)Where is the moderator on this list? should have been immediately

banned for his comment and use of the word FUCK. That would have happened on any

other list.

If a person can't be civilized in their responses... and that means avoiding the

use of profane language...then they should be thrown off the list.

2)Why is he still being allowed to post to this list?

Judy McG

>

> I also want to address why included the following sentence in his

scathing email...and it's ME people are jumping all over...

> " So, you dumb FUCK! You are showing how stupid you are. "

>

August 15, 2009

> >

>

> > I also want to address why included the following sentence in his

scathing email...and it's ME people are jumping all over...

> > " So, you dumb FUCK! You are showing how stupid you are. "

> >

>

I agree with this post!!!! Moderator?

August 15, 2009

So calling someone a douche is okay? Go back and read all the posts, I did not

call names or use the " F " word until she was so offended by me expressing my

opinion and felt the need to call me names.

> From: judymcglothlin <dreamcatcherdoxi@...>

> Subject: Re: My last post...

> spinal problems

> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 10:05 PM

>

> I have been on this list for

> approximately six months. I am also a member of several

> other lists on various topics. I have two questions:

>

> 1)Where is the moderator on this list? should have

> been immediately banned for his comment and use of the word

> FUCK. That would have happened on any other list.

>

> If a person can't be civilized in their responses...

> and that means avoiding the use of profane language...then

> they should be thrown off the list.

>

> 2)Why is he still being allowed to post to this list?

>

> Judy McG

>

> >

>

> > I also want to address why included the

> following sentence in his scathing email...and it's ME

> people are jumping all over...

>

> > " So, you dumb FUCK! You are showing how stupid

> you are. "

>

> >

>

August 15, 2009

That's about half of America these days. dk

spinal problems

From: tpowell1977@...

Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:26:46 -0700

Subject: Re: My last post...

wow. I don't have a problem with negative feedback. I have a problem with snide

assholes.

--- Babbitt

________________________________

From: " MysticMaidenxx@... " <MysticMaidenxx@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 12:09:59 PM

Subject: Re: My last post...

I did indeed get it Tracey,

Good luck with your book and I am

sure you will be

very good at it until someone gives you negative feed back about it! God

help

those poor souls___ Got it Tracey.

In a message dated 8/15/09 1:07:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mickyk13gmail (DOT) com writes:

> to start questioning my intelligence, my integrity, my honesty and

> >my professionalism. ..if someone is going to be snide and rude...I DO have

> a

> >right to be DIS-courteous to them...without everyone getting their

> panties

> >in a bunch. Got that Mystic-Maidenxx?

>

August 15, 2009

Can't you please just shut up? It's over!!!!

Re: My last post...

> spinal problems

> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 10:05 PM

>

> I have been on this list for

> approximately six months. I am also a member of several

> other lists on various topics. I have two questions:

>

> 1)Where is the moderator on this list? should have

> been immediately banned for his comment and use of the word

> FUCK. That would have happened on any other list.

>

> If a person can't be civilized in their responses...

> and that means avoiding the use of profane language...then

> they should be thrown off the list.

>

> 2)Why is he still being allowed to post to this list?

>

> Judy McG

>

> >

>

> > I also want to address why included the

> following sentence in his scathing email...and it's ME

> people are jumping all over...

>

> > " So, you dumb FUCK! You are showing how stupid

> you are. "

>

> >

>

August 15, 2009

How do you know if there has been a personal attack if you don't read

it?????

In a message dated 8/15/09 9:33:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

ljw75010@... writes:

> Personal attacks, as you said, should be deleted and not read. They have

> NO validity here.

>

> Just my .02!

>

August 15, 2009

I dont post often but I can say the few questions I have asked has helped

me tremendously in the questions I have asked. all I can say is Please

don't leave the group as we will be missing a BIG part of the group. If you do

leave we will miss a big and important person that has a wealth of knowledge..

Thank you

spinal problems

From: tpowell1977@...

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:09:34 -0700

Subject: My last post...

This will be my last post...and as such will probably be

lengthy, but I ask that you bear with me.