Re: Injection Therapy, anyone?

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Hi ,

I have had 3 Epidurals for pain manangement.  I had spinal stenosis.  The

injection

helped for a week or two.  Eventually everything stood the same.  I had to have

surgery which was 3 months ago.   I hope the injections give you better

results.  Good luck, Marie

From: daniel <cdnlager2001@...>

Subject: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinal problems

Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 3:39 PM

I am trying to see if anyone has done any injection therapy for slipped Vertebra

L5/S1 (Spondylothiesis) ?

If so, what type of results has people had?

Thanks..

[Guest guest]

I had 8 injections in a year.  Finally got around to surgery.  I am not pain

free but it is still better than before the surgery.

From: daniel <cdnlager2001>

Subject: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 3:39 PM

I am trying to see if anyone has done any injection therapy for slipped Vertebra

L5/S1 (Spondylothiesis) ?

If so, what type of results has people had?

Thanks..

[Guest guest]

Oops. Forgot to mention. Surgery from Spondololisthesis too.

From: daniel <cdnlager2001>

Subject: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 3:39 PM

I am trying to see if anyone has done any injection therapy for slipped Vertebra

L5/S1 (Spondylothiesis) ?

If so, what type of results has people had?

Thanks..

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Hey there, thanks for your input....so your understanding the injection therapy

is not a pernament solution? How did the surgery go for you? I have

spondylothesis as well. And they want to do surgery, but I went to another

doctor who suggested the injection therapy.

 

Look forward to hearing back from you.

 

From: daniel <cdnlager2001>

Subject: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 3:39 PM

I am trying to see if anyone has done any injection therapy for slipped Vertebra

L5/S1 (Spondylothiesis) ?

If so, what type of results has people had?

Thanks..

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Surgery was a BIG help to me.  There is still pain.  But I've had worse prior to

surgery.  The bad thing about injections is I was told it destroys tissue at the

injection spot.  I am completely numb in some places. But the numbness does not

interfere with function.  The pain absolutely did interfere.  Consider the

injections a good band-aid.  Being as physically fit as possible is very

helpful.  Strengthen and Stretch.  If land exercises are hard for you.  Get into

the water.  Gravity is not a injured backs friend. You can move in water with

much less pain. 

From: daniel <cdnlager2001>

Subject: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 3:39 PM

I am trying to see if anyone has done any injection therapy for slipped Vertebra

L5/S1 (Spondylothiesis) ?

If so, what type of results has people had?

Thanks..

[Guest guest]

Correct, the injection do not last long and too much steriods which is in the

injections can cause other health issues.  The surgery has a long recovery.  I

am 3 months out and do not feel much of a difference.  The Dr said it would take

a year.  I hope you surgery is not as extensive and the recooperation is

quicker.  I am very up tight about being on pain medication but I cannot make it

thru the day without it.  I am trying to cut back slowly just to take the edge

off.  I heard too many horror stories about the pain meds.  Not looking for

anymore problem than what I have already.

From: daniel <cdnlager2001>

Subject: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 3:39 PM

I am trying to see if anyone has done any injection therapy for slipped Vertebra

L5/S1 (Spondylothiesis) ?

If so, what type of results has people had?

Thanks..

[Guest guest]

I guess the injection therapy I am getting, will be a steroid injection and I

will be doing intense water therapy, physical therapy and heat therapy. I have a

neurosurgeon who wants to do the surgery where they inplant a cage. He does not

remove any bone from my hip. I will ask about the tissue issue that you mention

and do more and more research on it as well.

 

Thank you for your assistance

 

From: daniel <cdnlager2001>

Subject: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 3:39 PM

I am trying to see if anyone has done any injection therapy for slipped Vertebra

L5/S1 (Spondylothiesis) ?

If so, what type of results has people had?

Thanks..

[Guest guest]

I had four or five steroid injections before surgery, and now I have a

depression in my back where the injections were. Is that the tissue destruction

you mention? I didn't know about that and was wondering what caused the hole in

my back.

The injections didn't help, so I had surgery in January.

I had an L3-L4 fusion along with a PEEK rod in my lumbar spine to correct

spondylolisthesis, and roto-rooting of the foramen to correct stenosis. I'm

finally starting to feel better than I did before surgery.

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Hey there, I just read your email, so the injection therapy didn't work for you

either? I have spondylotheisis L5/S1, I have been told about injection therapy,

but I am a little skeptical about it. I am thinking I should just have the

surgery and get it over with.

 

From: madamelasagna <roseanne@...>

Subject: Re: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinal problems

Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:14 PM

I had four or five steroid injections before surgery, and now I have a

depression in my back where the injections were. Is that the tissue destruction

you mention? I didn't know about that and was wondering what caused the hole in

my back.

The injections didn't help, so I had surgery in January.

I had an L3-L4 fusion along with a PEEK rod in my lumbar spine to correct

spondylolisthesis, and roto-rooting of the foramen to correct stenosis. I'm

finally starting to feel better than I did before surgery.

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Hey there, I am sorry to hear your reovery is taking so long and you are

not feeling very confident about it. My Dr. said the recovery time for

my surgery would be about 6-8 weeks, as far as getting back to work I

guess, I have read that it does take about a year before you can get

back to your normal activities.

I have not decided to have the surgery yet, I am looking into the

injection therapy, I am curious what other health issues can be caused.

Lord knows I don't want more..

I am taking Gabapentin (Nerve Pain Med) and I take an anti inflamatory

med, I really, really do not want to have to rely on meds for

every.....

Well, keep in touch and good luck, thanks for sharing..

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Hello I had two injections before my surgery. The first lasted 4 days the second

one lasted a week. I am typing this emal at the hospital. Leaving tomorrow

hopefully. Had anterior cervical fusion on c5 6 and 7. Pain is gone for now.

For any major kind of surgery it can take up to 6 months to a year. Your body

needs to take time to heal. I wish their was a magic pill we could all take to

heal faster.

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So How does cervical fusion work?  It took a long time to come back from low

back surgery. 

From: mc090909@... <mc090909@...>

Subject: Re: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinal problems

Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 3:25 PM

Hello I had two injections before my surgery. The first lasted 4 days the

second one lasted a week. I am typing this emal at the hospital. Leaving

tomorrow hopefully. Had anterior cervical fusion on c5 6 and 7. Pain is gone

for now. For any major kind of surgery it can take up to 6 months to a year.

Your body needs to take time to heal. I wish their was a magic pill we could all

take to heal faster.

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The health issues are lung problems with the steroids and I have also had kidney

function problems due to years of anti-inflammatory drugs.  I went thru years of

water and land therapy, as well.  It is true, not only will you need to use

conventional therapy before approval with a surgeon but most Insurance companies

will require proof that you tried other means before approving surgery.  You

might find the water therapy helpful.  I did for some time.  It took the

pressure off the spine for me and the warm water jets felt so good on the back. 

I wish you well, Marie

From: mc090909@... <mc090909@...>

Subject: Re: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinal problems

Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 4:25 P

Hello I had two injections before my surgery. The first lasted 4 days the second

one lasted a week. I am typing this emal at the hospital. Leaving tomorrow

hopefully. Had anterior cervical fusion on c5 6 and 7. Pain is gone for now. For

any major kind of surgery it can take up to 6 months to a year. Your body needs

to take time to heal. I wish their was a magic pill we could all take to heal

faster.

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I am not qualified to answer how it destroys tissue.  But personally, I have no

feeling for about 1 inch to the left of my scar.  The scar is about 8 inches

long.  Sometimes I wonder how informed the doctors are.  There was never any

mention of this when they were having me get injections.

From: madamelasagna <roseanne@bellissimo -usa.com>

Subject: Re: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:14 PM

I had four or five steroid injections before surgery, and now I have a

depression in my back where the injections were. Is that the tissue destruction

you mention? I didn't know about that and was wondering what caused the hole in

my back.

The injections didn't help, so I had surgery in January.

I had an L3-L4 fusion along with a PEEK rod in my lumbar spine to correct

spondylolisthesis, and roto-rooting of the foramen to correct stenosis. I'm

finally starting to feel better than I did before surgery.

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They make an inciscion 2- 3 inches on the right side of your neck go through the

neck take what degenertive bone is left between the three sections harvest bone

from my hip insert the new bone between the vertebrae put a small plastic clamp

on the three sections and pray the bone grows over the fusion. By far not a

surgery u want to avoid before u go through all non surgical procedures drugs,

physical therapy injections etc. My cervical area was ready really bad and

fusion surgery was all that was left for me. I got three neurosurfeon opinions

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[Guest guest]

I highly recommend lots of time in warm water.  You can do so much more than on

land without increasing your pain.  Remember to keep your core

tight(abdomen-back). If all else fails use a couple of foam tubes and work at

keeping a sitting position. I wish you pain-free days.

From: daniel <cdnlager2001>

Subject: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 3:39 PM

I am trying to see if anyone has done any injection therapy for slipped Vertebra

L5/S1 (Spondylothiesis) ?

If so, what type of results has people had?

Thanks..

[Guest guest]

Injections should NOT cause tissue destruction...unless you get an infection.

And you should ALWAYS try injections before resorting to surgery.  EVERYTHING

should be done before resorting to surgery.

--- in RI

From: madamelasagna <roseanne@bellissim o -usa.com>

Subject: Re: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:14 PM

I had four or five steroid injections before surgery, and now I have a

depression in my back where the injections were. Is that the tissue destruction

you mention? I didn't know about that and was wondering what caused the hole in

my back.

The injections didn't help, so I had surgery in January.

I had an L3-L4 fusion along with a PEEK rod in my lumbar spine to correct

spondylolisthesis, and roto-rooting of the foramen to correct stenosis. I'm

finally starting to feel better than I did before surgery.

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HMMM. Do you think it is the drug that does that? Gonna need to check this out.

From: madamelasagna <roseanne@bellissim o -usa.com>

Subject: Re: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:14 PM

I had four or five steroid injections before surgery, and now I have a

depression in my back where the injections were. Is that the tissue destruction

you mention? I didn't know about that and was wondering what caused the hole in

my back.

The injections didn't help, so I had surgery in January.

I had an L3-L4 fusion along with a PEEK rod in my lumbar spine to correct

spondylolisthesis, and roto-rooting of the foramen to correct stenosis. I'm

finally starting to feel better than I did before surgery.

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I don't think the medication would do that, and you are only getting 2-3 cc's of

the steroid itself, and it goes deep, not superficial. It's curious to me...how

large is the area and where is it located?

From: madamelasagna <roseanne@bellissim o -usa.com>

Subject: Re: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:14 PM

I had four or five steroid injections before surgery, and now I have a

depression in my back where the injections were. Is that the tissue destruction

you mention? I didn't know about that and was wondering what caused the hole in

my back.

The injections didn't help, so I had surgery in January.

I had an L3-L4 fusion along with a PEEK rod in my lumbar spine to correct

spondylolisthesis, and roto-rooting of the foramen to correct stenosis. I'm

finally starting to feel better than I did before surgery.

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I found this at MedicineNet.com. Hope it helps.

Disadvantages of cortisone injections are the necessity of piercing the skin

with a needle as well as potential short- and long-term side effects. It should

be emphasized that though each of these side effects is possible, they usually

do not occur.

Short-term side effects are uncommon but include shrinkage (atrophy) and

lightening of the color (depigmentation) of the skin at the injection site,

introduction of bacterial infection into the body, local bleeding from broken

blood vessels in the skin or muscle, soreness at the injection site, and

aggravation of inflammation in the area injected because of reactions to the

corticosteroid medication (postinjection flare). Tendons can be weakened by

corticosteroid injections in or near tendons. Tendon ruptures as a result have

been reported.

In people who have diabetes, cortisone injections can elevate the blood sugar.

In patients with underlying infections, cortisone injections can suppress

somewhat the body's ability to fight the infection and possibly worsen the

infection or may mask the infection by suppressing the symptoms and signs of

inflammation. Generally, cortisone injections are used with caution in people

with diabetes and avoided in people with active infections. Cortisone injections

are used cautiously in people with blood-clotting disorders.

Long-term side effects of corticosteroid injections depend on the dose and

frequency of the injections. With higher doses and frequent administration,

potential side effects include thinning of the skin, easy bruising, weight gain,

puffiness of the face, elevation of blood pressure, cataract formation, thinning

of the bones (osteoporosis), and a rare but serious damage to the bones of the

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Hey thanks for the information, all important things to think about and to ask

my Dr. before we start the therapy...

 

From: cheryle.timm <no_reply >

Subject: Re: Injection Therapy, anyone?

spinal problems

Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 7:12 PM

I found this at MedicineNet. com. Hope it helps.

Disadvantages of cortisone injections are the necessity of piercing the skin

with a needle as well as potential short- and long-term side effects. It should

be emphasized that though each of these side effects is possible, they usually

do not occur.

Short-term side effects are uncommon but include shrinkage (atrophy) and

lightening of the color (depigmentation) of the skin at the injection site,

introduction of bacterial infection into the body, local bleeding from broken

blood vessels in the skin or muscle, soreness at the injection site, and

aggravation of inflammation in the area injected because of reactions to the

corticosteroid medication (postinjection flare). Tendons can be weakened by

corticosteroid injections in or near tendons. Tendon ruptures as a result have

been reported.

In people who have diabetes, cortisone injections can elevate the blood sugar.

In patients with underlying infections, cortisone injections can suppress

somewhat the body's ability to fight the infection and possibly worsen the

infection or may mask the infection by suppressing the symptoms and signs of

inflammation. Generally, cortisone injections are used with caution in people

with diabetes and avoided in people with active infections. Cortisone injections

are used cautiously in people with blood-clotting disorders.

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frequency of the injections. With higher doses and frequent administration,

potential side effects include thinning of the skin, easy bruising, weight gain,

puffiness of the face, elevation of blood pressure, cataract formation, thinning

of the bones (osteoporosis) , and a rare but serious damage to the bones of the

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