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Hi Becky,

Welcome to . Water grains are another of those Symbiotic

Cultures of Bacteria and Yeast (SCOBY). They look like small cut pieces of

glass and when fed properly they grow fast. Once you figure out what they

like and get them growing really well you get to eat your extras for more

probiotic benefit.

Before you rule out dairy products check out oil pulling. I just made my

first post about it on our sister group set up for off topics:

_OffTopicChat/

I think a lot of our allergies are a result of a clogged system and poor

digestion. Oil pulling seems to be the ticket to fixing these and a lot of

other problems.

It also doesn't help to be using pasteurized milk products. Raw milk

products don't cause nearly the problems, especially when raw milk is

transformed into kefir.

Marilyn

http://www.kefirlady.com/waterkefirgrains.htm

On 12/9/06, sewpretty13 <sewpretty13@...> wrote:

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> Where can I find out about water grains? I'm allergic to dairy of all

> kinds. I had not heard of water grains until they are mentioned in

> passing in some of the messages. What I know is that they don't

> reproduce because they are not fed. I would like to be educated and

> find some helpful info on this.

> I just joined so now I want to learn.

> Thanks tons,

> Becky

>

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Thanks for the welcome Marilyn. I did check oil pulling out. IT does sound

interesting. Yes, I agree the allergies seem to be something

malfunctioning. However, I am extremmely allergic to milk, even when it is

in acidophilus pills and the claim is non-dairy.

What do the water kefir grow on? Are they the same as the millk kefir? Do

they have the same acidopohilus tylpe nutrients?

BEcky

>From: " Marilyn Kefirlady " <marilynjarz@...>

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>Subject: Re: water kefir grains

>Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:58:08 -0500

>

>Hi Becky,

>

>Welcome to . Water grains are another of those Symbiotic

>Cultures of Bacteria and Yeast (SCOBY). They look like small cut pieces of

>glass and when fed properly they grow fast. Once you figure out what they

>like and get them growing really well you get to eat your extras for more

>probiotic benefit.

>

>Before you rule out dairy products check out oil pulling. I just made my

>first post about it on our sister group set up for off topics:

>

>_OffTopicChat/

>

>I think a lot of our allergies are a result of a clogged system and poor

>digestion. Oil pulling seems to be the ticket to fixing these and a lot of

>other problems.

>

>It also doesn't help to be using pasteurized milk products. Raw milk

>products don't cause nearly the problems, especially when raw milk is

>transformed into kefir.

>

>Marilyn

>http://www.kefirlady.com/waterkefirgrains.htm

>

>

>On 12/9/06, sewpretty13 <sewpretty13@...> wrote:

> >

> > Where can I find out about water grains? I'm allergic to dairy of all

> > kinds. I had not heard of water grains until they are mentioned in

> > passing in some of the messages. What I know is that they don't

> > reproduce because they are not fed. I would like to be educated and

> > find some helpful info on this.

> > I just joined so now I want to learn.

> > Thanks tons,

> > Becky

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Hi Becky,

On 12/9/06, Becky Leppard <sewpretty13@...> wrote:

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> Thanks for the welcome Marilyn. I did check oil pulling out. IT does

> sound

> interesting.

I'm getting positive feedback every day about oil pulling.

Yes, I agree the allergies seem to be something

> malfunctioning. However, I am extremmely allergic to milk, even when it

> is

> in acidophilus pills and the claim is non-dairy.

Maybe this will change in the future.

What do the water kefir grow on?

Sugar water and dried fruit.

Are they the same as the millk kefir?

No. You were supposed to look at the link. Here it is again:

http://www.kefirlady.com/waterkefirgrains.htm

As I say, they are a " whole different animal " .

Do

> they have the same acidopohilus tylpe nutrients?

They have some things in common. Milk kefir is superior methinks. My

favorite non-dairy probiotic drink is kombucha, then water kefir. That may

change as I'm starting to add diluted sea water to my water grain recipe.

This makes water kefir that much more nutritious with those 90 minerals in

there now.

Marilyn

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My milk grains are multiplying like crazy! They are very happy. I

discovered about 5 drops of lemon flavored stevia cuts the tart enough

for me.

However, my water grains do not multiply very fast. I buy ozarka spring

water to use because all my water is filtered. I use a little RO water

out of my water dispenser because it comes out hot and I use that to

dissolve the sugar. I use mostly self-dried apples and bananas. I have

started adding a pinch of sea salt to maybe make up for lack of

minerals in the water. Seems to develop more fizz with the salt.

Separate question - how bad are sulfated dried fruits to use? We got

some for christmas but my son didn't like the taste.

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On 12/29/06, <monicakelley@...> wrote:

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> My milk grains are multiplying like crazy! They are very happy. I

> discovered about 5 drops of lemon flavored stevia cuts the tart enough

> for me.

>

> However, my water grains do not multiply very fast.

Are they still big or have they broken apart into little pieces?

I buy ozarka spring

> water to use because all my water is filtered. I use a little RO water

> out of my water dispenser because it comes out hot and I use that to

> dissolve the sugar. I use mostly self-dried apples and bananas. I have

> started adding a pinch of sea salt to maybe make up for lack of

> minerals in the water. Seems to develop more fizz with the salt.

I have been experimenting with sea solids fertilizer. You mix 5 ounces of

French Celtic sea salt in one gallon of water. That is sea water. You take

four ounces of that and mix with one gallon of water. That is sea

fertilizer. Use sea fertilizer straight to water all your plants, soak

sprouting seeds and to rinse your sprouts, and...this is what you've been

waiting for..., put two ounces per quart of sugar solution for your water

grains. I'm using RO with these added sea minerals for an experiment. They

are not growing by leaps and bounds by any means, but they are staying big

and that's important to me. Normally using straight RO will cause the water

grains to break apart into little pieces. Not good.

Separate question - how bad are sulfated dried fruits to use?

Sulphur kills bacteria. Water grains are a type of scoby (Symbiotic Culture

of Bacteria and Yeast) so don't use sulfured fruit.

Marilyn

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> My milk grains are multiplying like crazy! They are very happy. I

> discovered about 5 drops of lemon flavored stevia cuts the tart enough

> for me.

>

> However, my water grains do not multiply very fast.

Are they still big or have they broken apart into little pieces?

I have several pieces that are a good 1/4 inch across, but most are

less than that. Being relatively new to this, I am not sure what

" normal " is.

> I have been experimenting with sea solids fertilizer.

A question about salt - doesn't salt kill yeast? or are these

concentrations to low to be a problem.

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On 1/3/07, Kelley <monicakelley@...> wrote:

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> > My milk grains are multiplying like crazy! They are very happy. I

> > discovered about 5 drops of lemon flavored stevia cuts the tart enough

> > for me.

> >

> > However, my water grains do not multiply very fast.

>

> Are they still big or have they broken apart into little pieces?

>

>

> I have several pieces that are a good 1/4 inch across, but most are

> less than that. Being relatively new to this, I am not sure what

> " normal " is.

1/4 is good. They are not too tiny.

> I have been experimenting with sea solids fertilizer.

>

> A question about salt - doesn't salt kill yeast?

yes it can

or are these

> concentrations to low to be a problem.

It is a very low concentration. 4 ounces of sea water diluted in one gallon

of water. That's fertilizer. I take two ounces of that solution and put it

in a quart of sugar water for my water grains. The water grains are getting

92 minerals. Sea solids are the best.

Marilyn

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> Someone here wanted me to post when I have water grains available. I have an

abundant supply right now. Next shipping day is Monday, April 6

>

> Thanks,

> Marilyn

>

Hello Marilyn,

How much are the water grains? Thnx.

Carol

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They are $15 plus $5 shipping. So a twenty dollar bill. I send a package of

first food for them so you can get started right away giving you a couple days

to get any ingredients you don't have on hand. Anyone wanting water grains can

e-mail me and I'll confirm everything in the next e-mail to you.

Thanks,

Marilyn

marilynjarz@...

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Are you worried about contamination or something? They don't have to grow

much to produce tasty water kefir.

When I make a " bad batch " I turn it into vinegar.

Marilyn

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:57 PM, jewl495 <Jewl495@...> wrote:

> Thank you Marilyn for anwering my question yesterday about my water grains.

> I have another question. How do I know when I can start consuming my kefir?

> One of my jars doubled in grain growth today but the other did not. I don't

> want my children or myself to consume the water kefir if its not producing a

> good batch. Is there a good site that talks more in depth about water

> grains? Doms site gives great info on both but he gives much more detail on

> milk than water.

> Thank you,

>

>

>

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Well it taste good to me it just won't get fizzy after I seal and ferment it

for an extra day. So I guess that makes me wonder if enough sugar has been

consumed.

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Try this, after straining, add a teaspoon of sugar then seal and ferment an

extra day or two.

Marilyn

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Marilyn,

I received my water kefir grains from you about a week or so ago and the

grains have already more than doubled in size. I want to increase the

amount of water and sugar in my jar. I also add raisins when I ferment. I'm

currently using 1/4 cup sugar with 4 cups water. If I want to increase to 8

cups of water, should I divide the grains in two jars or put all 8 cups

into one jar and use about 1/3 cups sugar with the raisins?

Thanks,

Sharon

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When I double the recipe because there are double the water grains I double

everything, water and sugar.

Marilyn

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:57 AM, <slkbrooke@...> wrote:

> Marilyn,

>

> I received my water kefir grains from you about a week or so ago and the

> grains have already more than doubled in size. I want to increase the

> amount of water and sugar in my jar. I also add raisins when I ferment.

> I'm

> currently using 1/4 cup sugar with 4 cups water. If I want to increase to

> 8

> cups of water, should I divide the grains in two jars or put all 8 cups

> into one jar and use about 1/3 cups sugar with the raisins?

> Thanks,

> Sharon

>

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Is there a benefit to water over milk grains?

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You put over done water kefir into in a glass jar and put a cloth lid on with

rubber band. Do not disturb and six months later you have vinegar.

Marilyn

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How do you turn it into vinegar?

Shari

>

> Are you worried about contamination or something? They don't have to grow

> much to produce tasty water kefir.

>

> When I make a " bad batch " I turn it into vinegar.

>

> Marilyn

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No, not in my opinion. Milk kefir is superior. On second thought, water

kefir is way cheaper to make. That's a benefit I suppose.

Marilyn

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Hope Holben <hhml@...> wrote:

> Is there a benefit to water over milk grains?

> Hope

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I unintentionally swallowed a little. Something interesting is going on with my

water kefir. Instead of turning to alcohol, it's turning to vinegar - a really

tasty vinegar. Each day I feed it more sugar. Maybe this is how KT scoby got

it's start. Anyone else have this happen?

Kathleen

" Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to

their limitations again. " R. Cook

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Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 4:22:58 PM

Subject: water kefir grains

Anyone tried eating the water kefir grains?

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