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Ernie -

For about 25 years Lorraine Rosenthal of www.cancercontrolsociety.com has

maintained lists of people who are still alive and well thanks to

alternative cancer therapies. Call her for more info. (Pacific coast time)

Most of these people will be willing to talk to you on the phone.

She started the annual Cancer Control Convention held every Memorial day

weekend in Los Angeles many years ago. It's been dedicated to safe,

sensible, effective alternative cancer treatments all these years.

About 50 speakers over 3 days time and all kinds of booths and and exhibits.

STRONGLY recommended for anyone who can attend - one day or all three. Her

website, although modest, has a lot of information from recent conferences.

- Art

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> Hi.

>

> Just recently joined this group. I have been diagnosed with metasticized

colon cancer (currently in my lymphatic system).

>

> I have read much on alternative therapy, and have become somewhat

convinced that it might work. One thing though: Almost all the literature I

have read, and persons I have spoken too are woefully low on testimonials. I

have yet to speak or communicate to a single person who actually walked away

from a terminal diagnosis.

>

> My question to the group: Are you all deluding yourselves (and, me). Can

anyone state credibly and honestly that they know (firsthand) persons who

HAVE survived cancer by following an alternative medicine regime? THIS would

satisfy me that maybe there's a chance. Short of this REAL evidence, I don't

think any self respecting person can hold out hope for alternative

therapies.

>

> Don't get me wrong: I am following an alternative regime. But I need to

have real PROOF that it CAN work.

>

> Can anyone out there provide this??

>

> Thank you. Ernie

>

>

>

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> Guys,

>

> I wanted to make a suggestion to all concerning treatment. Would it

be

> a good idea for those of you that have reached the conclusion of your

> treatment to write a testimonial and place it in the files section? I

> was thinking that if I had several testimonials of guys who had the

> same issues that I could take them to my doc and beat him over the

head

> with them. It would also make it easier for those guys to be able to

> answer specific questions rather than tell the same story over and

> over. Once I get to where I want to be I plan on shouting it from the

> rooftops so this could be my outlet.

>

> Thanks to all of you for your help as well!

>

> Lee

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Hi Lee, perhaps because many of us consider TRT to be an ongoing

process that we never think we have reached its " conclusion " in

treatment as you suggest. At least this is how I feel. I can't

remember your symptoms, sorry, but if you briefly list them and ask

again for others here with like symptoms to respond, chances are you

will get some responses.

norton

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Lee this has been tried and most Dr.'s will not read them hell they will not

read a copy of the AACE Guidelines. A lot of guys have print out Dr. 's TRT

Treatment and they will not read them are they anygood I don't feel they are if

one has a Dr. that only knows what the drug reps tell them one needs to find a

better Dr.

http://www.aace.com/clin/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

Phil

patrolbase18 <patrolbase18@...> wrote:

Guys,

I wanted to make a suggestion to all concerning treatment. Would it be

a good idea for those of you that have reached the conclusion of your

treatment to write a testimonial and place it in the files section? I

was thinking that if I had several testimonials of guys who had the

same issues that I could take them to my doc and beat him over the head

with them. It would also make it easier for those guys to be able to

answer specific questions rather than tell the same story over and

over. Once I get to where I want to be I plan on shouting it from the

rooftops so this could be my outlet.

Thanks to all of you for your help as well!

Lee

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Phil,

You are right - that was my first doc. I fired him! everything was good until I

started asking questions about treatment I've heard about in this group. I'm

sure I scared him when he figured out I was beginning to know more than he did.

I will say that my PCP is awsome!! She has read everything that I have given her

and we discuss it. Last Friday we sat down and talked about the whole E2 thing

and the light went on and she was in total agreement. I now have to get my endo

to turn his light on. He is pretty up to speed on most of this but he'll get

more education soon. ;-)

Thanks Phil

Lee

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

Lee this has been tried and most Dr.'s will not read them hell they will not

read a copy of the AACE Guidelines. A lot of guys have print out Dr. 's TRT

Treatment and they will not read them are they anygood I don't feel they are if

one has a Dr. that only knows what the drug reps tell them one needs to find a

better Dr.

http://www.aace.com/clin/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

Phil

patrolbase18 <patrolbase18@...> wrote:

Guys,

I wanted to make a suggestion to all concerning treatment. Would it be

a good idea for those of you that have reached the conclusion of your

treatment to write a testimonial and place it in the files section? I

was thinking that if I had several testimonials of guys who had the

same issues that I could take them to my doc and beat him over the head

with them. It would also make it easier for those guys to be able to

answer specific questions rather than tell the same story over and

over. Once I get to where I want to be I plan on shouting it from the

rooftops so this could be my outlet.

Thanks to all of you for your help as well!

Lee

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Lee I have never found a good Endo I would drop the Endo and try to work with

you PCP Dr. will work with your Dr. over the phone he does this a lot. He

will get the PCP Dr. up to speed and then you would not need him anymore.

http://www.allthingsmale.com/

Phil

lee d <patrolbase18@...> wrote:

Phil,

You are right - that was my first doc. I fired him! everything was good until I

started asking questions about treatment I've heard about in this group. I'm

sure I scared him when he figured out I was beginning to know more than he did.

I will say that my PCP is awsome!! She has read everything that I have given her

and we discuss it. Last Friday we sat down and talked about the whole E2 thing

and the light went on and she was in total agreement. I now have to get my endo

to turn his light on. He is pretty up to speed on most of this but he'll get

more education soon. ;-)

Thanks Phil

Lee

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

Lee this has been tried and most Dr.'s will not read them hell they will not

read a copy of the AACE Guidelines. A lot of guys have print out Dr. 's TRT

Treatment and they will not read them are they anygood I don't feel they are if

one has a Dr. that only knows what the drug reps tell them one needs to find a

better Dr.

http://www.aace.com/clin/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

Phil

patrolbase18 <patrolbase18@...> wrote:

Guys,

I wanted to make a suggestion to all concerning treatment. Would it be

a good idea for those of you that have reached the conclusion of your

treatment to write a testimonial and place it in the files section? I

was thinking that if I had several testimonials of guys who had the

same issues that I could take them to my doc and beat him over the head

with them. It would also make it easier for those guys to be able to

answer specific questions rather than tell the same story over and

over. Once I get to where I want to be I plan on shouting it from the

rooftops so this could be my outlet.

Thanks to all of you for your help as well!

Lee

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