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Personally I would avoid it. Plastics can leach nasty stuff, especially

when in contact with acidic liquids over time.

Dean

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Subject: Plastic container for fermenting?

I'm thinking about getting a plastic container for making sauerkraut and

possibly kimchi. They have these containers in Japan that seem really good

(and dh is going there next week), with either a screw-top lid to keep the

fermenting veggies submerged, or a spring that pushes down on them. Would

the plastic be okay? I could then transfer the kraut to a scalded or boiled

glass jar before I kept the mixture in the refrigerator.

Thanks for the help,

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Hi Dean,

I've been making raw milk kefir in glass jars with plastic lids. The lid

doesn't actually come in contact with the kefir. The only other lids I have

are metal and I was afraid to use them. Should I just put a small glass

plate on top of the jar?

Thanks for the info ~ Lynn

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> possibly kimchi. They have these containers in Japan that seem really good

> (and dh is going there next week), with either a screw-top lid to keep the

> fermenting veggies submerged, or a spring that pushes down on them. Would

> the plastic be okay? I could then transfer the kraut to a scalded or

> boiled

> glass jar before I kept the mixture in the refrigerator.

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> Thanks for the help,

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I used one for awhile. It's mostly not worth the money: if you work directly

in the jar then you save a step. Also I don't like plastic containers much

for fermenting.

To hold the kraut down in a jar, all you need is something that fits the

jar: a condiment cup, for instance. Or the chopped-off end of a plastic

bottle, if you don't mind plastic. The screw-top lid will press it down

enough. Just fold a salted cabbage leaf over the kraut, add your spacer,

then screw on the lid. (see the previous discussion on Dunkers!).

For lids: use the plastic ones that they sell in the canning section. They

will release any gases that form.

You don't need to boil the jar either. Just wash it like you usually would.

But if you like experimenting with kitchen gadgets: then sure, experiment! I

do love kitchen gadgets myself.

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:24 AM, <lynchfam@...> wrote:

> I'm thinking about getting a plastic container for making sauerkraut and

> possibly kimchi. They have these containers in Japan that seem really good

> (and dh is going there next week), with either a screw-top lid to keep the

> fermenting veggies submerged, or a spring that pushes down on them. Would

> the plastic be okay? I could then transfer the kraut to a scalded or boiled

> glass jar before I kept the mixture in the refrigerator.

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> Thanks for the help,

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Theoretically if the plastic lids don't touch the kefir, that should be

fine. Until recently I was also storing kefir cheese in glass bowls with

plastic lids.

But recently I noticed a pinkish color developing on the bottom of the lid.

I'm not sure what that was - didn't seem to be mold since it didn't wash off

very easily. Maybe just the soft plastic reacting with acidic moisture from

the cheese?

In any case, I started covering the glass bowl with a small glass plate

instead, just as you mentioned. Just seems safer. Since the whole point of

the exercise is to do it for health, why take chances?

Dean

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Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 3:48 PM

nutrition

Subject: Re: Plastic container for fermenting?

Hi Dean,

I've been making raw milk kefir in glass jars with plastic lids. The lid

doesn't actually come in contact with the kefir. The only other lids I have

are metal and I was afraid to use them. Should I just put a small glass

plate on top of the jar?

Thanks for the info ~ Lynn

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> I'm thinking about getting a plastic container for making sauerkraut and

> possibly kimchi. They have these containers in Japan that seem really good

> (and dh is going there next week), with either a screw-top lid to keep the

> fermenting veggies submerged, or a spring that pushes down on them. Would

> the plastic be okay? I could then transfer the kraut to a scalded or

> boiled

> glass jar before I kept the mixture in the refrigerator.

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> Thanks for the help,

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Whatever you buy for fermentation,it is good to stop by a homecenter for the

goods to see.

You can buy what you are aiming for around 1200yen to 1800 yen depending on the

size,the material is ABS plastic mainly.

Meanwhile,you can see chinaware containers for about 2800 yen to 5600 yen.

The producer: http://www.kyumatsu.co.jp/files/c/c1potteryset.html

Authentic but pretty proud of their products of 900 year tradition.

It is heavy but at the cost of transportation,you can get one.

Gadjets wooden drop lids are there for 300-400yen.

My travel recomendation is to stop by the basement floors of the department

stores where food speciality shops gather. Lots of free samples and tastings.

There is no place on earth where you can eat so many fermented products in one

place! A must to go. :-)

Shop and tell!

isao

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I've only used rolled up cabbage leaves and have never had a bad batch this way.

You can also eat the leaves afterwards or I hear they were used for cabbage

rolls.

Millie

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They make awesome cabbage rolls. I did a whole batch of just leaves once for

that reason. You can use grape leaves that way too. Grape leaves are an

especially good " topper " because they are tough, plus they have substances

in them that are said to inhibit mold.

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> I've only used rolled up cabbage leaves and have never had a bad batch this

> way. You can also eat the leaves afterwards or I hear they were used for

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