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Hi ,

I'm a newbie here (C1W1D3) so my 2 cents may not be worth 2 cents, but

it strikes me that you're doing better than you give yourself credit

for. You say you're eating clean and drinking water...you missed one

workout. I don't see how that translates into a week you have " failed " .

I can only speak for myself, but I know when I get into that kind of

black-and-white thought pattern that's exactly when I'm in

trouble...hating myself for not doing it perfectly doesn't motivate me

to get to the gym. Feeling good about the things I have done right gets

me there.

in Idaho

coollaura0 wrote:

>OK. I guess I need to whine. I need a good kick and some motivation.

>

>I really seem to be doing this challenge in fits and starts. I'll be

>on one day and off the next. The good news is that I have eaten

>cleanly for about a week and a half now. Today is right on track,

>too. I'm even having success with drinking more water and less

>coffee.

>

>That leaves the exercise. I did a great UBWO on Monday morning,

>despite my still sore joints. Believe me, my muscles were crying

>yesterday! I slept late yesterday, but since I didn't have school, I

>did my cardio when I got home from work. Not the greatest timing,

>especially considering my meals, but I still got it in. Bad timing is

>better than not at all. Well, I stayed up too late again last night

>and I couldn't get up this morning. So no LBWO. And I *do* have

>school tonight - in fact I have a chemistry final - so it won't be

>happening tonight, either. So another week where I have failed. :-(

>

>I am struggling with a lot of anger and depression over this. I have

>done this before. My first challenge was very successful. I am

>totally capable of doing this! I don't know why I am fighting it so

>hard. I enjoy lifting weights. I just didn't want to get out of bed.

>After losing all that weight on C1, I am now *gaining* weight. My

>pant-o-meter is moving in the WRONG direction.

>

>I read all the messages on this board, and I feel pumped up and

>excited. Many of you face far greater difficulties in getting this

>done, and you are out there every day working away at it. I have it

>pretty easy - I have a gym at home, a supportive husband and really

>the time and means to do this with a little planning. And I am

>failing! I have no excuse. Knowing I have no excuse makes me very

>angry at myself. I kind of feel like it is my destiny to be fat and

>flabby and weak, and I should just accept it. That idea makes me

>really depressed. It's a viscious cycle.

>

>I don't know how to break out of this totally negative mindset, but I

>know I need to!!! Any advice would be appreciated.

>

>Redondo

>

>

>

>

>

>

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, you can do this. Proof being that you did it once already. I think we

all go through phases in which we get pessimistic or discouraged, especially

after having seen some success and improvement which makes any lack stable

period seem like a failure. But you, , are not failing. You seem

tohave a lot on your plate right now - and school can be a definite time

consumer - I should know, because along with teaching French and Italian at

the university, I am also a research assitant and a fulltime PhD student and

it's TIME CONSUMING. And on top of that, you have a family!

I was overweight and then obese from the age of 7 to 22 and it was hard and

painful. You know why I think I stayed inthat state so long? Because I

would tell myself that I was a failure and that I was just destined to be

that way. Not true. I was miserable, and not because my peers or family

poked fun, but because I slammed myself everyday and lambasted my own

self-esteem. Then I moved to Italy for a year, convinced that I would pack

on another20 or 30 lbs, and just let myself be happy and say f*** off to

all the negativity. And guess what? I left a 232 lb unhappy girl and came

back a 170lb woman with a smile and a helluva lot of confidence. Happiness

is the greatest key to a healthy body and in doing BFL you are making a step

toward your own happiness. How happy are you when you say that you are fat?

that you are failing? Not at all, and if you are an emotional eater like

me, it makes you want more junk and makes you less inspired to go to the

gym. It's normal to have a negative period now and again, but keep sight of

your dreams and your goals. Why did you decide to do the second challenge?

The success the first time around made you feel good and strong and you will

only feel better and stronger the second time around. Don't punish yourself

with harsh words and negative thoughts because you missed a workout - you

can never fail here - you can only improve. So you missed some, chalk it up

to stress and chaos and that damned chem final, and next week make it a goal

to not miss a workout, or to at least do 2 morning workouts. Something,

anything to encourage yourself - to be able to say, yes, this week was full

of successes for me.

You can do this, you are doing so, and so what if you had a bad week.

Forgive yourself and move on - this is your body for life, it won't be made

in a day and a day or two won't ruin it for life.

Hang in there and let me know if there is anything I can do!

Take care and smile!

>From: " coollaura0 " <llarsen@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Help needed!

>Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:22:56 -0000

>

>OK. I guess I need to whine. I need a good kick and some motivation.

>

>I really seem to be doing this challenge in fits and starts. I'll be

>on one day and off the next. The good news is that I have eaten

>cleanly for about a week and a half now. Today is right on track,

>too. I'm even having success with drinking more water and less

>coffee.

>

>That leaves the exercise. I did a great UBWO on Monday morning,

>despite my still sore joints. Believe me, my muscles were crying

>yesterday! I slept late yesterday, but since I didn't have school, I

>did my cardio when I got home from work. Not the greatest timing,

>especially considering my meals, but I still got it in. Bad timing is

>better than not at all. Well, I stayed up too late again last night

>and I couldn't get up this morning. So no LBWO. And I *do* have

>school tonight - in fact I have a chemistry final - so it won't be

>happening tonight, either. So another week where I have failed. :-(

>

>I am struggling with a lot of anger and depression over this. I have

>done this before. My first challenge was very successful. I am

>totally capable of doing this! I don't know why I am fighting it so

>hard. I enjoy lifting weights. I just didn't want to get out of bed.

>After losing all that weight on C1, I am now *gaining* weight. My

>pant-o-meter is moving in the WRONG direction.

>

>I read all the messages on this board, and I feel pumped up and

>excited. Many of you face far greater difficulties in getting this

>done, and you are out there every day working away at it. I have it

>pretty easy - I have a gym at home, a supportive husband and really

>the time and means to do this with a little planning. And I am

>failing! I have no excuse. Knowing I have no excuse makes me very

>angry at myself. I kind of feel like it is my destiny to be fat and

>flabby and weak, and I should just accept it. That idea makes me

>really depressed. It's a viscious cycle.

>

>I don't know how to break out of this totally negative mindset, but I

>know I need to!!! Any advice would be appreciated.

>

>Redondo

>

>

>

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Try not to look at it as a " week failed " . You missed 1 workout

right? Your chemistry final is important right? So next time, you'll

make sure to get the workout in, right? Eating clean for 1 1/2 weeks

is something to be proud of as well as the UBWO and cardio this

week! Hang in there!

Do you make a list of goals when you started? Maybe it is time to re-

evaluate your goals, what you are striving for, and what you can do

to reach those goals. Make some short-term goals and make sure to

give yourself credit for the things you do. I know how easy it is to

beat ourselves up when we feel like we've 'failed' but somehow we

never find the time to give ourself credit for when we don't fail. I

think that is more important myself.

Colleen

> OK. I guess I need to whine. I need a good kick and some motivation.

>

> I really seem to be doing this challenge in fits and starts. I'll

be

> on one day and off the next. The good news is that I have eaten

> cleanly for about a week and a half now. Today is right on track,

> too. I'm even having success with drinking more water and less

> coffee.

>

> That leaves the exercise. I did a great UBWO on Monday morning,

> despite my still sore joints. Believe me, my muscles were crying

> yesterday! I slept late yesterday, but since I didn't have school,

I

> did my cardio when I got home from work. Not the greatest timing,

> especially considering my meals, but I still got it in. Bad timing

is

> better than not at all. Well, I stayed up too late again last night

> and I couldn't get up this morning. So no LBWO. And I *do* have

> school tonight - in fact I have a chemistry final - so it won't be

> happening tonight, either. So another week where I have failed. :-(

>

> I am struggling with a lot of anger and depression over this. I

have

> done this before. My first challenge was very successful. I am

> totally capable of doing this! I don't know why I am fighting it so

> hard. I enjoy lifting weights. I just didn't want to get out of

bed.

> After losing all that weight on C1, I am now *gaining* weight. My

> pant-o-meter is moving in the WRONG direction.

>

> I read all the messages on this board, and I feel pumped up and

> excited. Many of you face far greater difficulties in getting this

> done, and you are out there every day working away at it. I have it

> pretty easy - I have a gym at home, a supportive husband and really

> the time and means to do this with a little planning. And I am

> failing! I have no excuse. Knowing I have no excuse makes me very

> angry at myself. I kind of feel like it is my destiny to be fat and

> flabby and weak, and I should just accept it. That idea makes me

> really depressed. It's a viscious cycle.

>

> I don't know how to break out of this totally negative mindset, but

I

> know I need to!!! Any advice would be appreciated.

>

> Redondo

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LAURA!!!

Please forgive yourself. Just because you miss a work out your week

is not a failure! It seems you need a good reason to go to the gym,

perhaps my favorite the prize on the end of the stick!

Think of a prize for your self, little or big. A manicure, a diamond

ring, a new hair color. Then visualise it. When you achieve your

goals for that day or week go for it. Sometimes a lite funny prize is

good. I have my daughters paint my nails. OR I have a big friggen

diamond on layaway at the pawn shop. So what? I am not perfect so it

will take me that much longer to get there. But hey, I can get over

being inperfect. Progress not perfection.

You can do it you just need a reason to do it. And please don't

dismiss the fact that school is almost over and that is stressful

too. So one day at a time chickie. You will suceeded, your already a

winner! Everytime I read one of your posts I love your salutation. I

would love to know what it means. ??

lighten up a bit, and keep on moving!

MEgan in Md.

> OK. I guess I need to whine. I need a good kick and some motivation.

>

> I really seem to be doing this challenge in fits and starts. I'll

be

> on one day and off the next. The good news is that I have eaten

> cleanly for about a week and a half now. Today is right on track,

> too. I'm even having success with drinking more water and less

>

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Hi ,

You have hit the nail on the head with the " black and white " comment.

This is something I struggle with all the time, and still sometimes I

don't even realize when I am doing it!

Today is a new day - I can only go forward.

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Hi ,

Thanks for sharing your story with me. You are one busy woman! What

did you find in Italy that made you a happy and confident woman?

You're right - it does not make me happy to do this to myself. My #1

goal this week is merely to focus on my achievements, whatever they

may be, small or large.

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Hi Colleen,

> Do you make a list of goals when you started? Maybe it is time to

> re-evaluate your goals, what you are striving for, and what you can

> do to reach those goals. Make some short-term goals and make sure

> to give yourself credit for the things you do. I know how easy it

> is to beat ourselves up when we feel like we've 'failed' but

> somehow we never find the time to give ourself credit for when we

> don't fail. I think that is more important myself.

These are excellent points. I think I have lost sight of my goals...

become more caught up in the process and the whole perfectionist mind

set. As I said in another note, my #1 goal this week is to

acknowledge my achievements, no matter how small. Cheer them even!

Thanks for the reminder.

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Hi ,

" the prize on the end of the stick " ... Hmmm. That's a good idea.

Honestly, I never ever think of rewarding myself, especially since I

think I *should* just be perfect anyway. (although, of course, I

never am.) I will give some thought to that... try to come up with

something very motivating.

Not sure what you mean by salutation. Are you referring to Redondo

? Redondo is my neighborhood... south of Seattle. There are a

couple of different s on the list, and I wanted to say this is

me!

Redondo

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,

Liquids isall you need. Do not worry.

Scab formation is going on right now and you need to be very careful with

food. We had a few kids bleed at this time.

Food is NOT important. HYDRATION is important.

ph did not eat ANY food for 2 weeks with his tonsil surgery.

No big deal.

Fluids... Gatorade... water... etc...

The kids feel bad for up to 2 weeks.

God Bless,

Fran

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,

Liquids isall you need. Do not worry.

Scab formation is going on right now and you need to be very careful with

food. We had a few kids bleed at this time.

Food is NOT important. HYDRATION is important.

ph did not eat ANY food for 2 weeks with his tonsil surgery.

No big deal.

Fluids... Gatorade... water... etc...

The kids feel bad for up to 2 weeks.

God Bless,

Fran

Fran A Bulone

Mom to ph 5 yrs old

Waxhaw, NC

Owner & Moderator Group

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, it is very common that after a T & A they seem good for a few days then

get bad again before they are out of the woods. Scabs form where the tonsils

were removed and scabs are very painful. Motrin, tylenol...(Bribery worked best

for me!I promised them pretty much anything!) If you can keep her fluids up,

that's the most important. Ask for Tylenol with codine if she seems too

uncomfortable to handle it. Don't put too much on the eating, it's all about

the fluids for the next few days. Good Luck! Prayers are with you and

yours...Sandi (Mom to 12)

Help needed!

HI all,

Breana had her T & A on Friday and seemed to be doing really well.....but

now she will not eat at all! Not even ice cream or popsicles! She is still

drinking(thank god). But even that is a huge fight. I guess I thought we;d be

seeing improvement by now.

Any advice welcome!

mom to BReana 3.6 and 14

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, it is very common that after a T & A they seem good for a few days then

get bad again before they are out of the woods. Scabs form where the tonsils

were removed and scabs are very painful. Motrin, tylenol...(Bribery worked best

for me!I promised them pretty much anything!) If you can keep her fluids up,

that's the most important. Ask for Tylenol with codine if she seems too

uncomfortable to handle it. Don't put too much on the eating, it's all about

the fluids for the next few days. Good Luck! Prayers are with you and

yours...Sandi (Mom to 12)

Help needed!

HI all,

Breana had her T & A on Friday and seemed to be doing really well.....but

now she will not eat at all! Not even ice cream or popsicles! She is still

drinking(thank god). But even that is a huge fight. I guess I thought we;d be

seeing improvement by now.

Any advice welcome!

mom to BReana 3.6 and 14

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Thank you so much!!! I had been so worried.....fluids fluids fluids it is!

Re: Help needed!

,

Liquids isall you need. Do not worry.

Scab formation is going on right now and you need to be very careful with

food. We had a few kids bleed at this time.

Food is NOT important. HYDRATION is important.

ph did not eat ANY food for 2 weeks with his tonsil surgery.

No big deal.

Fluids... Gatorade... water... etc...

The kids feel bad for up to 2 weeks.

God Bless,

Fran

Fran A Bulone

Mom to ph 5 yrs old

Waxhaw, NC

Owner & Moderator Group

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Thank you so much!!! I had been so worried.....fluids fluids fluids it is!

Re: Help needed!

,

Liquids isall you need. Do not worry.

Scab formation is going on right now and you need to be very careful with

food. We had a few kids bleed at this time.

Food is NOT important. HYDRATION is important.

ph did not eat ANY food for 2 weeks with his tonsil surgery.

No big deal.

Fluids... Gatorade... water... etc...

The kids feel bad for up to 2 weeks.

God Bless,

Fran

Fran A Bulone

Mom to ph 5 yrs old

Waxhaw, NC

Owner & Moderator Group

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Thxs Sandi!

Help needed!

HI all,

Breana had her T & A on Friday and seemed to be doing really

well.....but now she will not eat at all! Not even ice cream or popsicles! She

is still drinking(thank god). But even that is a huge fight. I guess I thought

we;d be seeing improvement by now.

Any advice welcome!

mom to BReana 3.6 and 14

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Thxs Sandi!

Help needed!

HI all,

Breana had her T & A on Friday and seemed to be doing really

well.....but now she will not eat at all! Not even ice cream or popsicles! She

is still drinking(thank god). But even that is a huge fight. I guess I thought

we;d be seeing improvement by now.

Any advice welcome!

mom to BReana 3.6 and 14

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Hang in there and Breana! I think when had his T & A it was sooo

well worth it! Good Luck, Sandi

Help needed!

HI all,

Breana had her T & A on Friday and seemed to be doing really

well.....but now she will not eat at all! Not even ice cream or popsicles! She

is still drinking(thank god). But even that is a huge fight. I guess I thought

we;d be seeing improvement by now.

Any advice welcome!

mom to BReana 3.6 and 14

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Hang in there and Breana! I think when had his T & A it was sooo

well worth it! Good Luck, Sandi

Help needed!

HI all,

Breana had her T & A on Friday and seemed to be doing really

well.....but now she will not eat at all! Not even ice cream or popsicles! She

is still drinking(thank god). But even that is a huge fight. I guess I thought

we;d be seeing improvement by now.

Any advice welcome!

mom to BReana 3.6 and 14

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In a message dated 3/28/2007 9:23:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tiger6564403@... writes:

Also the principal says he will be in Alternative school because is

not performing to his potential. I feel that will be more than

detrimental to hia already compromised abilities.

Welcome to the group. I was just about to log out & go grocery shopping...

so I only have a minute, but wanted to respond to your post first.

{{{{hugs}}}}} girl. There was a lot of information in your email. I just have

a

couple thoughts right at this second......

I do know that it's not uncommon for kids (for some reason especially boys)

at that age to slack off on turning in papers, etc.... so I'm just wondering

if *a little bit* of the behavior is just the norm for a boy his age.

However, I'm not trivializing the OCD & Tourettes - you are correct & those

disorders can really cause problems with school work & the ability to

concentrate &

stay on task.

Your school is obligated to provide an education for your son & take his

disabilities into consider & provide for them. You mentioned a meeting about a

504 plan... does he having something already in place, or were they just

discussing the possibility of using one? I know there are different types of

plans you can use at school... the 504 & an IEP (?) something like that -- I'll

leave those details to the education " experts " on this board.... and there

are many of them! You're sure to get lots of good information from them.

Don't let them bully you into sending your child to an alternative school.

The only time you should do that is if it's a consensus between the school,

you as parents & his doctors/therapists, that it's the best thing for him.

Have you asked his therapist to speak to the school about your son's disorders?

They should be dealing with the person who knows your son's situation

personally.

This is kind of off the OCD topic & more on the general parenting topic -

you mentioned that other kids are allowed to take CD players, gameboys, etc to

school. I'm sure there's a school policy on this, as most schools have

one.... but I also know that kids will take these things anyway & use them on

the

school bus. Is there a specific reason you're not allowing your son to take

his CD player? While I'm not saying that we should give in more to our kids

because they're already dealing with troubles that most kids don't have to, I

guess what I'm suggesting here is that may possibly be a way he sees that he

can " be like other kids " or " fit in " ..... what could the harm be in letting

him take the CD player to school? As long as he understands the rules about

not using *at* school & the resulting consequences (school takes it away, you

can't take it again... etc) if it happens. Both my kids were about the same

age when they wanted to take stuff like that to school. They did fine -

they understood the rules right up front - if it's taken out during school &

you

get in trouble, that will be the last time it's allowed.... and if it's lost

or stolen, the cost for replacement comes out of your pocket - not ours.

Just my thoughts there - this is obviously a personal parenting decision that

has to be made by you & your husband.

- I'm so sorry to hear about your battle with early Alzheimers. I

can't imagine how difficult it must all be for you to deal with. I hope your

husband gets on board with you regarding your son's situation. Has Dad gone to

any of the doctor's appts? You mentioned a psychiatrist, but is your son

also seeing a psychologist?

LT

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> Wow, . You really have a lot to deal with. Big HUG. My son only has OCD,

and it's

not nearly as bad as what I've read about in this group, but I still expect his

grades to

suffer because he is preoccupied in class, responding to possible contamination

and

figuring out when he can wash his hands again. This disease takes a lot of a

kid's energy,

leaving little for focusing on school. Also, I think the pressures of homework

and school

aggravate the OCD. For my son, I spoke with the school's administrator and told

her my

son has an anxiety issue and would benefit from less pressure from the teachers.

She sent

each of his teachers a letter so they'd understand if he missed an assignment

here or

there, and so they wouldn't pressure him to perform. So far, so good. In fact,

it was a relief

to my son to know they'd cut him some slack.

So yes, the disease will affect your son academically. It's not an IQ thing.

From what I've

read, we have to make their recovery a priority and accept that his grades may

suffer for

now. I would also be careful not to be too demanding of him, in terms of very

strict rules.

It may be a good time to choose your battles carefully so as not to make him any

more

anxious than he already is.

Best of luck. I'm thinking of you.

F.

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> Wow, . You really have a lot to deal with. Big HUG. My son only has OCD,

and it's

not nearly as bad as what I've read about in this group, but I still expect his

grades to

suffer because he is preoccupied in class, responding to possible contamination

and

figuring out when he can wash his hands again. This disease takes a lot of a

kid's energy,

leaving little for focusing on school. Also, I think the pressures of homework

and school

aggravate the OCD. For my son, I spoke with the school's administrator and told

her my

son has an anxiety issue and would benefit from less pressure from the teachers.

She sent

each of his teachers a letter so they'd understand if he missed an assignment

here or

there, and so they wouldn't pressure him to perform. So far, so good. In fact,

it was a relief

to my son to know they'd cut him some slack.

So yes, the disease will affect your son academically. It's not an IQ thing.

From what I've

read, we have to make their recovery a priority and accept that his grades may

suffer for

now. I would also be careful not to be too demanding of him, in terms of very

strict rules.

It may be a good time to choose your battles carefully so as not to make him any

more

anxious than he already is.

Best of luck. I'm thinking of you.

F.

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tracy - i feel so bad for you - with what you personally are dealing

with and of course what your son is going thru - i feel there are

times my husband thinks our dd is just using it etc too, siding with

school opinions - and I know more often than not there's ocd behind it

your son has added complications that I don't know about but I'm

sure others will jump in soon but as for school - i wouldn't move him

and maybe you should give them handouts or even a copy of the book

" Teaching the Tiger " it was recommended here and I gave it to her

teacher - they'll take too long to educate themselves i'd jump in and

also can't the therapist explain to them - or did he/she already ??

that doesn't even work sometimes - it's so hard to get them to see

it's the disorder and not a behvior - if you look up 504 or IEP's here

there should be a lot of info on what accomadtions others have in

place that may help the school see - and also the oCF website has

handouts I 've used

welcome again

we're here

hang in

eileen

PS my nephew is 16 and speech never helped his stuttering but now he

has a CD out with his other 2 brothers and he finds the stuttering

affecting his TV interviews etc and is looking into ways to help - I

can ask what he's doing if you want

Quoting YoungHope <tiger6564403@...>:

> My name is and I am new here. I joined because we have a 12

> year old son that I feel is in desperate need of help.

>

> I will try to make this quick and to the point.

>

> Our son was diagnosed with OCD and Mild Tourettes in 2000 at about

> age 5. His OCD consisted of having to having his toy cars lined up

> just right before he could eat a meal of go to the bathroom, etc.

> His stuffed animals had to be in the right order on his dress at

> night. He has a fear of flying insects to the point that he either

> freaks out when he sees them or freezes up. When we re playing cards

> the pile of cards have to be straigth or he is constantly fiddling

> with them. As far as his Tics (Tourettes)his consists of goraning

> and grunting in his throat. He also stutters when he gets anxious or

> nervous so when he talks sometimes he grimaces alot.

>

> When he started grade school he did exceptionally well A's, B's and

> as he got into 4th grade we say a dramatic drop in his grades are

> they have been consistent D'S & F'S since then.

>

> He does receive Speech theraphy in which he hates because he is the

> only 6th grader still in speech. He wants to quit but as discussed

> with his speech teacher he is still in need although his goals have

> almost been met.

>

> He also sees a Psychaitrist to help us with these issues and has

> been on Amantadine for 6 years for the Tics and it helped

> tremendously for awhile but now waxes and wanes. He is alo on

> Wellbutrin for anxiety to help with the OCD and now on Lexapro for

> possible depression. The doctor is going to wean him off of the

> Amantadine and put him on Strattera and says that will possible help

> with the stuttering as well as the Tics.

>

> In the mean times he has also developed compulsive lying and his

> response is always, " I don't know " . He will hide Yu-gi-oh cards in

> his locker at school because we do not allow him to have them

> although we did at one time and discussed with him the reasons we no

> longer wanted him to have them. So he gets them from his friends and

> I found them in his locker yesterday. This morning he wanted to take

> his CD palyer to school because all of the other kids get to take

> their gameboys, gamecards, cd players, etc. and he feels left out. I

> shook him down because he usually hides things in his socks of

> pockets and he had put his cd player in his school binder. I asked

> him why and he said, " the other kids get to, so I should to. " I

> thought he put it in his room and as he walked to the bus stop he

> bent over in the ditch and pciked it up. He had snuck outside in

> hopes of getting by with it. I called him back and took it away and

> again he was upset.

>

> He has alot of difficulty getting his assignments turned in at

> school and many times lies about turning in papers and we find out

> that he hasn't. We had a meeting with the Special Ed. Dept. in

> regards to the 504 plan. Bascially the result was that no nothing

> about Tourettes or OCD and feel as he is jacking around and just

> doens't want to do his work and just doesn't care. They said they

> would do some research on Tourettes and OCD and get back with us in

> a couple of weeks. His overall IQ score was 92 and they felt that is

> average enough that he had no reason for failing as he is.

>

> I have called his psychiatrist who we will see next week to get more

> information on how and if Tourettes and OCD can affect his academic

> performance. The sad thing is my husband is leaning towards their

> feelings as well. I feel like I am fighting a battle that I am

> losing and our son is paying the price because no one knows enough

> about his disgnoses.

>

> To top all of this off with his own stressors, I have Alzheimers

> Disease. I was diagnosed in 2002 with Early Onset and am now 42 and

> in the middle stages. We have been very strong advocates for AD but

> now we need to be advocates for him.

>

> I am being to over protective? He is an only child. Where do I go

> from here? What dod I do? How do we find out if he is truly playing

> around and just don't care or if there is more going on with his

> diagnosis?

>

> Also the principal says he will be in Alternative school because is

> not performing to his potential. I feel that will be more than

> detrimental to hia already compromised abilities.

>

> I am so lost and confused here, please help.

>

>

>

>

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Hugs to you, . You have a lot you are dealing with. I can relate

in some ways. Our son is also an only child, and I seem to be the

only one that realizes he cannot snap out of it and behave the way

everybody would like for him to. My husband also misinterprets Josh's

behavior at times. I think he wants it to not be what it is (OCD and

Tourettes) and it's easier for him to cope if he thinks it's

behavioral somehow. . Despite the fact that it's all over in my

husband's family. Josh also has OCD with mild Tourettes, which causes

him to make noises. I also have a health problem (my heart) that had

landed me in the hospital on numerous occasions, which has added to

our son's anxiety. I've become very concerned about what happens to

him if something happens to me, because the last time I saw the

cardiologist he told me I was having ventricular arrhythmias but

doesn't know why. And his exact words were, " I don't think you will

drop dead from this " , although I've had a cousin and grandfather who

did just that. Hmmmmmm. . that's reassuring! And I also have a

father who is in the end stages of Alzheimers, so know how devastating

the disease can be. You are so young to be dealing with it. I'm so

sorry.

In answer to one of your questions, " Yes " OCD can most definitely

affect school work. My son has told me that unless he can become

completely absorbed by whatever he is doing, he can't shut the OCD out

and make it shut up. So I guess it would be somewhat like us trying

to pay the bills and give it our complete attention, while someone is

behind you tapping you on the shoulder the whole time and talking to

you. (Which by the way my husband does to me sometimes - lol)

I don't know much about the process of making the school work with

you, because we opted to homeschool a long time ago. But there are

others here who can give you information on that. My understanding is

the schools have to work with you. You pay the taxes that keeps them

open.

The one thing I can tell you is that educating yourself to

understanding OCD can help so much. Getting your husband to also do

some reading will help, since you have your own health issues to deal

with. Finding the right meds and the right therapy will help your son

to have the tools to cope with this potentially life long disorder

too, although finding a qualified therapist, who knows specifically

how to treat OCD, can be a trial.

My husband has no desire to pick up a book and read, especially since

I'm handling it all already. . . But, I'm constantly throwing facts

and information at him and forcing him to listen to me for the sake of

our son. If something happens to me, Josh needs an advocate for him.

Hopefully some of what I'm saying to Bruce will get through enough

that he can be there for his son, if that need arises.

You are not alone. There are a lot of people here who understand what

your family is going through. This is a great site for information

and support. Welcome.

BJ

>

> My name is and I am new here. I joined because we have a 12

> year old son that I feel is in desperate need of help.

>

> I will try to make this quick and to the point.

>

> Our son was diagnosed with OCD and Mild Tourettes in 2000 at about

> age 5. His OCD consisted of having to having his toy cars lined up

> just right before he could eat a meal of go to the bathroom, etc.

> His stuffed animals had to be in the right order on his dress at

> night. He has a fear of flying insects to the point that he either

> freaks out when he sees them or freezes up. When we re playing cards

> the pile of cards have to be straigth or he is constantly fiddling

> with them. As far as his Tics (Tourettes)his consists of goraning

> and grunting in his throat. He also stutters when he gets anxious or

> nervous so when he talks sometimes he grimaces alot.

>

> When he started grade school he did exceptionally well A's, B's and

> as he got into 4th grade we say a dramatic drop in his grades are

> they have been consistent D'S & F'S since then.

>

> He does receive Speech theraphy in which he hates because he is the

> only 6th grader still in speech. He wants to quit but as discussed

> with his speech teacher he is still in need although his goals have

> almost been met.

>

> He also sees a Psychaitrist to help us with these issues and has

> been on Amantadine for 6 years for the Tics and it helped

> tremendously for awhile but now waxes and wanes. He is alo on

> Wellbutrin for anxiety to help with the OCD and now on Lexapro for

> possible depression. The doctor is going to wean him off of the

> Amantadine and put him on Strattera and says that will possible help

> with the stuttering as well as the Tics.

>

> In the mean times he has also developed compulsive lying and his

> response is always, " I don't know " . He will hide Yu-gi-oh cards in

> his locker at school because we do not allow him to have them

> although we did at one time and discussed with him the reasons we no

> longer wanted him to have them. So he gets them from his friends and

> I found them in his locker yesterday. This morning he wanted to take

> his CD palyer to school because all of the other kids get to take

> their gameboys, gamecards, cd players, etc. and he feels left out. I

> shook him down because he usually hides things in his socks of

> pockets and he had put his cd player in his school binder. I asked

> him why and he said, " the other kids get to, so I should to. " I

> thought he put it in his room and as he walked to the bus stop he

> bent over in the ditch and pciked it up. He had snuck outside in

> hopes of getting by with it. I called him back and took it away and

> again he was upset.

>

> He has alot of difficulty getting his assignments turned in at

> school and many times lies about turning in papers and we find out

> that he hasn't. We had a meeting with the Special Ed. Dept. in

> regards to the 504 plan. Bascially the result was that no nothing

> about Tourettes or OCD and feel as he is jacking around and just

> doens't want to do his work and just doesn't care. They said they

> would do some research on Tourettes and OCD and get back with us in

> a couple of weeks. His overall IQ score was 92 and they felt that is

> average enough that he had no reason for failing as he is.

>

> I have called his psychiatrist who we will see next week to get more

> information on how and if Tourettes and OCD can affect his academic

> performance. The sad thing is my husband is leaning towards their

> feelings as well. I feel like I am fighting a battle that I am

> losing and our son is paying the price because no one knows enough

> about his disgnoses.

>

> To top all of this off with his own stressors, I have Alzheimers

> Disease. I was diagnosed in 2002 with Early Onset and am now 42 and

> in the middle stages. We have been very strong advocates for AD but

> now we need to be advocates for him.

>

> I am being to over protective? He is an only child. Where do I go

> from here? What dod I do? How do we find out if he is truly playing

> around and just don't care or if there is more going on with his

> diagnosis?

>

> Also the principal says he will be in Alternative school because is

> not performing to his potential. I feel that will be more than

> detrimental to hia already compromised abilities.

>

> I am so lost and confused here, please help.

>

>

>

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Hi , welcome and lots of ((((hugs))))! A lot on your plate

right now with your son and with you & family members.

Tell your son that my 2 sons (now age 18, twins, not identical) both

were still in speech when they began 6th grade. One did finish up in

6th, the other in 7th. My OCD son was the one who finished in 6th.

I agree your son should finish, reach those goals!

My son's OCD began in 6th grade too, right after he began!

Our school system doesn't allow any of that stuff at school. Will be

taken if brought. Well, OK, the cards are OK, but CD players,

gameboys, etc., they don't. My sons were all into yu-gi-oh too and I

remember ALL those cards, LOL. Yes, they took them to school to

trade or show off or sell.

As to schoolwork - what are your son's OC behaviors? OCD can

definitely affect schoolwork (did for us). I guess my question is

*how* do you think it is affecting his schoolwork? Does he have

trouble writing? Reading?

Will he talk about his OCD? That would be a great help if he says

where it's causing problems.

Also he is now 12!! Puberty, feeling more " grown up " , hormones, all

that can be playing a part; wanting to " fit in " with peers. Many

kids have grades drop in middle school. You mentioned his went down

before this though.

I think if your son - or you if you can tell - will say just " how "

OCD is bothering him with schoolwork, it'll help get him his 504

Plan. We had one.

SIGH, I just rambled & jumped around, wish I had more time but you're

definitely in a great group for dealing with schools, OCD, even

Tourette's, etc.

(((hugs))) for the Alzheimers, I'm sooooo sorry. Take care of YOU

too, take some time each day for YOU and your needs! We'll help you

get through this OCD stuff, you don't need the added stress!

single mom, 3 sons

, 18, with OCD, dysgraphia and Aspergers/mild

>

> My name is and I am new here. I joined because we have a 12

> year old son that I feel is in desperate need of help.

>

> I will try to make this quick and to the point.

>

> Our son was diagnosed with OCD and Mild Tourettes in 2000 at about

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Hi , welcome and lots of ((((hugs))))! A lot on your plate

right now with your son and with you & family members.

Tell your son that my 2 sons (now age 18, twins, not identical) both

were still in speech when they began 6th grade. One did finish up in

6th, the other in 7th. My OCD son was the one who finished in 6th.

I agree your son should finish, reach those goals!

My son's OCD began in 6th grade too, right after he began!

Our school system doesn't allow any of that stuff at school. Will be

taken if brought. Well, OK, the cards are OK, but CD players,

gameboys, etc., they don't. My sons were all into yu-gi-oh too and I

remember ALL those cards, LOL. Yes, they took them to school to

trade or show off or sell.

As to schoolwork - what are your son's OC behaviors? OCD can

definitely affect schoolwork (did for us). I guess my question is

*how* do you think it is affecting his schoolwork? Does he have

trouble writing? Reading?

Will he talk about his OCD? That would be a great help if he says

where it's causing problems.

Also he is now 12!! Puberty, feeling more " grown up " , hormones, all

that can be playing a part; wanting to " fit in " with peers. Many

kids have grades drop in middle school. You mentioned his went down

before this though.

I think if your son - or you if you can tell - will say just " how "

OCD is bothering him with schoolwork, it'll help get him his 504

Plan. We had one.

SIGH, I just rambled & jumped around, wish I had more time but you're

definitely in a great group for dealing with schools, OCD, even

Tourette's, etc.

(((hugs))) for the Alzheimers, I'm sooooo sorry. Take care of YOU

too, take some time each day for YOU and your needs! We'll help you

get through this OCD stuff, you don't need the added stress!

single mom, 3 sons

, 18, with OCD, dysgraphia and Aspergers/mild

>

> My name is and I am new here. I joined because we have a 12

> year old son that I feel is in desperate need of help.

>

> I will try to make this quick and to the point.

>

> Our son was diagnosed with OCD and Mild Tourettes in 2000 at about

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