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Hello everybody! I am new to kefirs, and I think I messed up, maybe you all

might know what happened...I did the first several batches of water kefir w/

lemon and raisins. Then one day I put orange instead of lemon. It had been

taking 2-3 days to get ready, but this batch I put in the stove for pilot light

to keep it warmer and see if it would be ready faster, also put the milk kefir

in there too. Milk kefir was done in half the usual time, And I don't know why I

just left the water kefir to go an extra day. So By the time I took it out,

well, there's no trace of sweet left to it, it actually tastes like an orange

seed flavored acohol. So..did I make liquor? Is it safe to drink? We all tried

it and nobody got sick but it sure didn't taste great. The grains seemed to be

just delighted w/ what happened, the raisins popped if you squeezed them,

and...So is this because I let it go too long? Or not shaking it or stirring? Or

is it because I used oranges instead of lemon? Thanks so much for any advice!!

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Many ferments, if left too long, turn to ethanol. Whether this is a good

thing or a bad thing, depends on your attitude towards ethanol! Not all

of them taste good though. Hence the reason wine drinkers got picky.

Kefirs tend to taste better, IMO, when they are done at a lower temp.

You shouldn't need a heater unless it is freezing where you are. But

the higher the temp, the faster the ferment. I don't think oranges vs.

lemons would make much difference (although oranges have more

sugar, so there is that).

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:53 AM, sarah2007hood <sarah2007hood@...> wrote:

> Hello everybody! I am new to kefirs, and I think I messed up, maybe you all

might know what happened...I did the first several batches of water kefir w/

lemon and raisins. Then one day I put orange instead of lemon. It had been

taking 2-3 days to get ready, but this batch I put in the stove for pilot light

to keep it warmer and see if it would be ready faster, also put the milk kefir

in there too. Milk kefir was done in half the usual time, And I don't know why I

just left the water kefir to go an extra day. So By the time I took it out,

well, there's no trace of sweet left to it, it actually tastes like an orange

seed flavored acohol. So..did I make liquor? Is it safe to drink? We all tried

it and nobody got sick but it sure didn't taste great. The grains seemed to be

just delighted w/ what happened, the raisins popped if you squeezed them,

and...So is this because I let it go too long? Or not shaking it or stirring? Or

is it because I used oranges instead of lemon? Thanks so much for any advice!!

>

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Did you know you can freeze water kefir? I have in the freezer a bit of extra

just in case there is cross contamination or something like this happens. I did

the same, it killed my kefir, and did not know until days later. How did I know?

well, they quit growing and eventually they were all super small grains. No more

huge grains. Threw them all out and started over. We also do Kombucha Tea. Once

there was kombucha in with my kefir...cross contamination...ahhhh! I had to

throw it all out and start over. If you happen to do both, you must keep them

separated far, far away.

How I revive my water kefir from the freezer: put it is super good sugar like

rapadura sugar for about 3 days. Your first batch, put a bit of lemon in the

batch to help and a bit of bragg apple cider vinegar.

Good luck and keep going! It happens to all...

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> Hello everybody! I am new to kefirs, and I think I messed up, maybe you all

might know what happened...I did the first several batches of water kefir w/

lemon and raisins. Then one day I put orange instead of lemon. It had been

taking 2-3 days to get ready, but this batch I put in the stove for pilot light

to keep it warmer and see if it would be ready faster, also put the milk kefir

in there too. Milk kefir was done in half the usual time, And I don't know why I

just left the water kefir to go an extra day. So By the time I took it out,

well, there's no trace of sweet left to it, it actually tastes like an orange

seed flavored acohol. So..did I make liquor? Is it safe to drink? We all tried

it and nobody got sick but it sure didn't taste great. The grains seemed to be

just delighted w/ what happened, the raisins popped if you squeezed them,

and...So is this because I let it go too long? Or not shaking it or stirring? Or

is it because I used oranges instead of lemon? Thanks so much for any advice!!

>

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