Re: Digest Number 208

[Guest guest]

To in Canada and Beth in Indiana:

Thanks for all the prayers and good wishes. is, at the moment,

still in the bathroom. He has been coming out into the hall fairly regularly

and announcing his presence by playing a tune on the doorbell chimes. About

a month or so ago he decided he needed to use a computer and asked for one in

the bathroom. We all (including Dr. Claiborn) said no, so he proposed a

compromise - going into the den to use the computer. About two weeks ago he

went into the den, along with the crew from CBS, and ended up spending three

days there before going back into the bathroom. He says the routines he

needs to do are so difficult that he won't be able to get to the den every

week, but I am hoping that the more time he spends there the easier it will

get.

To Beth and Kathy R

We are in Muncie and have had a terrible time finding proper

therapists. It seems that no one in any of the counseling practices locally

are familiar with the behavior therapy needed for OCD. I am hoping to talk

to some of the people at Ball State and see if we can't get some students

interested in learning CBT before they get out into practices that ignore the

techniques. In addition I plan to take some of the brochures about the

Behavior Therapy Institutes to the various practices in the hope that someone

might be interested in learning the techniques in time to help .

We have heard of a support group that meets at Fishers every Monday and

accepts family as well as people with OCD. It's the only support group I

know of in this part of Indiana. I did hear of a therapist at Riley

Children's Hospital that used to work in Boston with Dr. Baer if you are

interested.

Thanks to all of you.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Thanks louise I Will try the neutral plan jerry . Can anybody help me

who might have info. on obsessive compulsive disorder I was diagnosed with it

and doctor wants me to take medication for this condition I would appriciate

any help on this subject thanks JERRY.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/29/00 6:05:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, coombs5@...

writes:

<< Is the magnetic

pulser enough? >>

Hi and welcome to the list. In answer to your question, it depends on what

you're treating. Can you give more details?

Dotsie

[Guest guest]

<< I've found that the

mfrs. { due to politics} are not at liberty to offer any advice.>>

It's a dangerous situation when the manufacturers are unable to give advice

on their own products when someone's health is involved. At least we still

have these lists to share information.

This information is from the Jaguar site...........

If you are fighting a systemic infection then you CAN NOT completely be rid

of the bacteria or virus unless you are using BOTH the blood electrification

unit and a magnetic Pulser. The Pulser is necessary to stimulate lymph flow

so that the microbes hiding out in the lymph will more rapidly be forced into

the bloodstream where they can be taken care of by the electricity from a

blood electrification unit. If you don't use a Pulser then you think you've

conquered the infection after 6 weeks and stop doing blood electrification

but then in another week or two you feel it's come back again since microbes

that were safely tucked away in the lymph fluid trickled back into the

bloodstream and reinfected you.

What is lymph fluid? Lymph is basically blood without the red blood cells.

Blood flows into the lymph system (leaving the red blood cells in the blood),

flows into the lymph vessels and nodes, and then empties back again into the

bloodstream close to the heart. But most everyones lymph flow is stagnant and

moving too slow (due to lack of exercise, carnivorous diets, cheese, not

enough water, etc) and especially needs the help of the Pulser to force some

circulation of the lymph.

Why is it recommended that the negative side of the Pulsers coil be placed

against the body when pulsing? The negative (-) side is magnetic North.

Bio-Magnetics people say that north pole energy arrests bacteria and growths,

controls inflammations, reduces congestion, calms nerves, reduces pain, slows

down overactive organs, attracts oxygen, increases alkalinity, contracts

tissue, controls bleeding, and dissolves fat. Magnetic south pole energy is

said to help areas of poor circulation and to stimulate underactive organs or

glands. Unfortunately it also aids tumor and bacteria growth.

[Guest guest]

Hi there veterans, Im a newbie and have a question....Is the magnetic

pulser enough? Meaning, does it do everything needed, without having to

use the zapper, the pulser, etc. ? It says is goes deeper so it seems it

would electrify blood, as well. Right? Wrong? Use it on certain

locations to effectively do blood? Please help!!! I've found that the

mfrs. { due to politics} are not at liberty to offer any advice. Thank

you!!! LC

[Guest guest]

Hello all:

Having my explantation with donut mastopexy Monday morning. Wish me

luck........

peg

springfield mo

[Guest guest]

> Having my explantation with donut mastopexy Monday morning. Wish me

> luck........

Hi Peg!

I wish you more than luck--I wish you peace, comfort, inner confidence in

yourself, your body, and that the surgeon's hands will be guided by God,

that there will be no " surprises " , that your recovery will be speedy, and

that you will feel the weight of the world lifted from your shoulders and a

joy that you haven't experienced before.

We'll be waiting to hear from you!

Love,

Patty

[Guest guest]

>

> > Having my explantation with donut mastopexy Monday morning. Wish

me

> > luck........

>

> Hi Peg!

> I wish you more than luck--I wish you peace, comfort, inner

confidence in

> yourself, your body, and that the surgeon's hands will be guided by

God,

> that there will be no " surprises " , that your recovery will be

speedy, and

> that you will feel the weight of the world lifted from your

shoulders and a

> joy that you haven't experienced before.

> We'll be waiting to hear from you!

> Love,

> Patty

Hi Peg..

Amen to Patty's Prayer.. I could not have said it better..

God Bless

[Guest guest]

Hello all in Senate. Like others, I suspect, I have been following the

debates but have not felt it appropriate to contribute. I was sorry not to

be able to attend the debate but the lack of a train service between the

outer reaches of civilisation and Swindon prevented a group of us

travelling from Stroud. Next time. hopefully...!

I am writing to request help/advice from members of Senate.

A small group is designing a project in the Stroud area that will enable us

to develop new ways of delivering primary care services using a multi

agency approach. I must stress that we are starting from scratch from a

background of highly traditional practice, so this is a big brave venture

for us! We lack professional leadership from our Trust so we are drawing

on our own resources. We have the backing of our local PCG. We now have

the opportunity to move forward, having identified a suitable pilot site in

Stonehouse, a small town that scores highly on some poverty indicators, and

where there are motivated partner agencies (neighbourhood project, family

centre) and the community nursing staff, albeit GP attached, are not

practice based. We envisage the project including

bottom up approach to the delivery of primary health care (we have GP

support for this)

working in partnership with other agencies

user involvement in identifying needs, planning and consultation

integrated nursing teams

research based health needs assessment

What we need is advice and information from members of Senate in order to

ensure that this project, which really is quite revolutionary for

Gloucestershire, does not flounder and thus prevent any other similar work

from happening in the future. We are desperate to modernise but are really

struggling against traditionalism across the disciplines.

Would anyone be willing to act a mentor to this project? We think that

this would involve an initial meeting with the project team and then

mentorship by e-mail.

Is there anyone whose practice is based on a similar exercise?

Can anyone steer us in the direction of research based theories/empirical

evidence that would underpin this work?

What are the pitfalls that we need to watch out for?

All contributions will be welcome!

Thanks

Digest Number 208

[Guest guest]

Dear Gill

I understand that the DOH is about to release a document, which is the

result of a 'scoping search' conducted by Kate -Nichol looking at

the 'evidence' for successful integrated working. Whilst I haven't seen the

whole document, many of the features you describe are present in Kate's

summary of her work. I guess some guidance may be available in the complete

document and it may be worth trying to get hold of a copy (I'm still waiting

for mine).

Digest Number 208

[Guest guest]

Hi Gill and your colleagues

I have done/doing in conssultancy mode some work on this. If you let me

have your address I will send you some papers and would be pleased to talk

on the phone if it would help. My number is 01252 681513. If I am not in

leave a message and I will get back to you.

I did a piece of work in Somerset and they have just appointed a project

Officer to take it forward. She starts at the begining of March - I will ask

her to get in contact.

there are a number of places moving this way - Croydon is one - you may like

to get in touch with them.

Look forward to hearing from you further.

Margaret

Digest Number 208

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Gill,

The most successful example of inter-agency primary care I know of was Steve

Gillam's work for the King's Fund on 'Community Oriented Primary Care',

subsequently published in London as a series of short reports by the King's

Fund. Dr. Gillam was a GP in Bedfordshire and is now in Public Health at the KF

(switchboard = 020 7307 2400) and his best example of COPC was in a London

housing estate. On the theory side, Nigel Starey at the University of Derby was

a rural Cambridgeshire GP when he invented the term 'Primary Care Trust' in the

early 1990s in a book chapter for the King's Fund, as a way of encapsulating his

ideal of the Golf Club Model of General Practice (seriously!) . Professor

Starey is a fascinating chap with, among other interests, an interest in using

IT training to integrate primary care workers. Nursing theoreticians on

integration seem thin on the ground in primary care, although Poulton

wrote an interesting report (an 'Audit') for the RCN on teamwork in primary

care, which highlighted many of the barriers to progress (such as ignoring

patients' views). At the University of Sheffield, the LOTUS learning in teams

project is supported by the European Union and based in their GP department (the

psychologist on the Sheffield team, Peggy Newton, provided much of the original

brainwork in her 1998 report 'All together now: Competences in primary health

care teams'). I would strongly recommend their use of Nominal Group techniques

in prioritising developments for your new integrated team. The health service

produces the 'NHS Beacons Learning Handbook', which may contain some relevant

tips (e.g. from Dr. Pennells & Partners, Gosport or Holbrooks Health Team,

Coventry). My caveat there: the NHS Beacon Services only 'look on the bright

side of life'.

If you want an indication of how much time and effort can be involved in

implementing inter-agency work, you might take a look at Caan et al, British

Journal of Community Nursing 2000; 5: 87-90 or Caan, Nursing Standard 2000; 14

(49): 75. If I can give any futher advice, my UCL email is

woody@... and I usually come in on Fridays (020 7679 1721)

to my sanctuary from NHS work.

Best of luck,

Woody.

>

> Hello all in Senate. Like others, I suspect, I have been following the

> debates but have not felt it appropriate to contribute. I was sorry not to

> be able to attend the debate but the lack of a train service between the

> outer reaches of civilisation and Swindon prevented a group of us

> travelling from Stroud. Next time. hopefully...!

>

> I am writing to request help/advice from members of Senate.

>

> A small group is designing a project in the Stroud area that will enable us

> to develop new ways of delivering primary care services using a multi

> agency approach. I must stress that we are starting from scratch from a

> background of highly traditional practice, so this is a big brave venture

> for us! We lack professional leadership from our Trust so we are drawing

> on our own resources. We have the backing of our local PCG. We now have

> the opportunity to move forward, having identified a suitable pilot site in

> Stonehouse, a small town that scores highly on some poverty indicators, and

> where there are motivated partner agencies (neighbourhood project, family

> centre) and the community nursing staff, albeit GP attached, are not

> practice based. We envisage the project including

>

> bottom up approach to the delivery of primary health care (we have GP

> support for this)

> working in partnership with other agencies

> user involvement in identifying needs, planning and consultation

> integrated nursing teams

> research based health needs assessment

>

> What we need is advice and information from members of Senate in order to

> ensure that this project, which really is quite revolutionary for

> Gloucestershire, does not flounder and thus prevent any other similar work

> from happening in the future. We are desperate to modernise but are really

> struggling against traditionalism across the disciplines.

>

> Would anyone be willing to act a mentor to this project? We think that

> this would involve an initial meeting with the project team and then

> mentorship by e-mail.

>

> Is there anyone whose practice is based on a similar exercise?

>

> Can anyone steer us in the direction of research based theories/empirical

> evidence that would underpin this work?

>

> What are the pitfalls that we need to watch out for?

>

> All contributions will be welcome!

>

> Thanks

> Digest Number 208

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Cheryl,

Congratulations to you. I know it has been a struggle for you to reach this

goal. You were one of my contacts when I first started this journey and I was

glad to see that you had resurfaced. I hope you are doing better after the

loss of your parents. My best to you.

Francine in AL

MGB May 31, 260 lbs

June 9, 165 lbs and feeling great........

[Guest guest]

Francine,

Glad to hear you are well and that you remember me. Sounds like you have

done wonderful in the past year. I bet you look great at 165 lbs!!!

Take care and thanks for the kind words.

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

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Hi, I am scheduled to have my lapband the end of June and have been reading the bandster for about three weeks now and am very impressed by everybody's stories. It gives me encouragement and I hope I do as well as you all have. Congrats on your successes. I really enjoy this site.

Marie in Oklahoma wrote:

[Guest guest]

Marie,

I am so proud of our patients!

NinaMarie <marie_johnson80@...> wrote:

Hi, I am scheduled to have my lapband the end of June and have been reading the bandster for about three weeks now and am very impressed by everybody's stories. It gives me encouragement and I hope I do as well as you all have. Congrats on your successes. I really enjoy this site.

Marie in Oklahoma wrote:

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie, what part of oklahoma are you from? I'm from OKC nice to know there's another okie in this group l0l. You will love Dr Aceves and everyone there if you need anything or just want to talk to someone call me at 405-794-5293. Good luck Belinda

Re: Digest Number 208

Hi, I am scheduled to have my lapband the end of June and have been reading the bandster for about three weeks now and am very impressed by everybody's stories. It gives me encouragement and I hope I do as well as you all have. Congrats on your successes. I really enjoy this site.

Marie in Oklahoma wrote:

[Guest guest]

oh, Kam, I meant to warn you before you went to Six Flags to avoid that big old wooden roller coaster. I love roller coasters and rode them all one year ago when we took a family trip while my son was home visiting my dad before he died. I love the new metal coasters because they are fast, scary, and smooth. But that old wooden one really jerks you around and I had a horrible headache by the end of the ride (from the brain bouncing around inside the skull). The only roller coaster I have declined to ride is the one at the top of the Stratosphere in Las Vegas. My sons will have to ride that one without me! I know I am a bit late to chime in on the shoe discussion, but I started wearing exclusively SAS shoes back around 1985 when my mom first discovered them. I used to wear the ones with a little wedge heel, but when they

came out with the flat ones, I switched because the toe area was wider (and I have wide feet). When I saw the first pain management doctor, he told me that I needed better shoes with more support. I was shocked! I thought SAS shoes were very good. But, it made sense that since my heels hurt, that a shoe with a cushioned heel might be better. Ever since, I have been wearing Nike Air Max shoes. They have an air cushion and shock absorbers under the heel. They may not go well with my dresses, but my feet do feel much better. And my students don't make fun of them like they did with the SAS shoes (not that I cared). Meanwhile, I don't think my last set of injections worked nearly as well as the first 3 times. I am in quite a bit of pain at the end of the day and frustrated that I need to go to bed instead of getting more stuff accomplished. It is one year

since I got an incomplete in a class, so it looks like I won't be finishing my degree after all. I recently photographed a 60th wedding anniversary party and two of the guests had recently had scoliosis surgery. They looked horrified when they found out that I had also had scoliosis surgery (but thank goodness I wasn't the one to tell them). I only photograph events for people I know and my cane with the built in stool is invaluable. One of the ladies had beautiful lordosis, and I never would have guessed she had had surgery if I hadn't known her mother (and if her dress hadn't been low cut enough in the back to show her scars). The other one looked much more uncomfortable and about had a fit when somebody touched her back. Both their dads had encouraged them to have surgery while still covered by their parents' insurance. I sure hope they don't end up like us.

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