Re: probiotics for vaginal yeast infections?

[Guest guest]

I have the same problem. This last bout flared up due to drinking too sweet

kombucha. It needs to be attacked from the inside by ingesting quality

probiotic pills such as Jarrow or Metagenics Ultra Flora Plus and staying away

from anything sugary. I've been drinking coconut kefir and it's knocking it

out. During the worst of the attack you can puncture a large garlic clove with

a fork and insert it vaginally. I had a colonic once and it washed away all the

protective flora. Then came the yeast infection. I called the place to tell

them and it was suggested to use garlic. It worked. It will come out on its

own....Kathleen

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From: keppers79 <kep-at-home@...>

nutrition

Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 9:17:41 AM

Subject: probiotics for vaginal yeast infections?

I hope this is not too weird of a question for this group. I have recurrent

yeast infections which I am trying to combat. I've been taking lots of

probiotics orally. However, I'm wondering is there something I could apply

topically? I hear of people using yogurt vaginally, but that just seems kind of

messy? I'm wondering about a douche with water kefir? Or something like that?

How can I get beneficial probiotics directly where they need to be to solve the

problems? Or should I not worry about that and just worry about eating more

probiotics?

[Guest guest]

Yogurt and kefir work. There is a product called AmLactin that is

an AMAZING skin conditioner, whose main ingredient is lactic

acid (the acid in yogurt). When I get kefir on my hands, the

skin gets so soft! But it kills the nastier yeast too.

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:17 AM, keppers79 <kep-at-home@...> wrote:

> I hope this is not too weird of a question for this group.  I have recurrent

yeast infections which I am trying to combat.  I've been taking lots of

probiotics orally.  However, I'm wondering is there something I could apply

topically?  I hear of people using yogurt vaginally, but that just seems kind of

messy?  I'm wondering about a douche with water kefir?  Or something like that?

 How can I get beneficial probiotics directly where they need to be to solve the

problems?  Or should I not worry about that and just worry about eating more

probiotics?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Also remember that if you're sexually active with anyone, they need to be

treated as well. During my last pregnancy (when I had recurring yeast

infections), my midwife suggested that I rinse out a little with diluted

hydrogen peroxide, and then follow up immediately with the topical application

of a good probiotic.

I have been dealing with a yeast infection on and off for months (due to

pregnancy), and have noticed that eating food with a lot of lactobacillus

actually makes it worse- so I think it's possible to overdose on any bacteria or

yeast, not just the " bad " ones.

Kefir contains a host of " healthy " yeasts, which should compete with candida

albicans. I don't know about water kefir- but this is true of dairy kefir.

Treating your infection might be made easier if you figure out which yeasts and

bacteria you eat a lot of (and thus which are likely to be colonizing you), and

then find a probiotic supplement that contains a variety of *other*

microorganisms. You are much more likely to correct a bacterial or yeast

imbalance that way.

Good luck,

>

> I have the same problem. This last bout flared up due to drinking too sweet

kombucha. It needs to be attacked from the inside by ingesting quality

probiotic pills such as Jarrow or Metagenics Ultra Flora Plus and staying away

from anything sugary. I've been drinking coconut kefir and it's knocking it

out. During the worst of the attack you can puncture a large garlic clove with

a fork and insert it vaginally. I had a colonic once and it washed away all the

protective flora. Then came the yeast infection. I called the place to tell

them and it was suggested to use garlic. It worked. It will come out on its

own....Kathleen

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>

>

>

>

>

>

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> From: keppers79 <kep-at-home@...>

> nutrition

> Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 9:17:41 AM

> Subject: probiotics for vaginal yeast infections?

>

>

> I hope this is not too weird of a question for this group. I have recurrent

yeast infections which I am trying to combat. I've been taking lots of

probiotics orally. However, I'm wondering is there something I could apply

topically? I hear of people using yogurt vaginally, but that just seems kind of

messy? I'm wondering about a douche with water kefir? Or something like that?

How can I get beneficial probiotics directly where they need to be to solve the

problems? Or should I not worry about that and just worry about eating more

probiotics?

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is thought that dairy probiotics may not survive digestive acids. That's why

I use Metagenics and not liquid acidophiles. Between the garlic and the coconut

kefir it's substantially subsiding. I make a solution with food grade peroxide,

aloe gel, and glycerin. Topically that works, too. It can sting like crazy,

temporarily....Kathleen

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From: saoirsecaesar <rachel@...>

nutrition

Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 8:40:31 AM

Subject: Re: probiotics for vaginal yeast infections?

Also remember that if you're sexually active with anyone, they need to be

treated as well. During my last pregnancy (when I had recurring yeast

infections), my midwife suggested that I rinse out a little with diluted

hydrogen peroxide, and then follow up immediately with the topical application

of a good probiotic.

I have been dealing with a yeast infection on and off for months (due to

pregnancy), and have noticed that eating food with a lot of lactobacillus

actually makes it worse- so I think it's possible to overdose on any bacteria or

yeast, not just the " bad " ones.

Kefir contains a host of " healthy " yeasts, which should compete with candida

albicans. I don't know about water kefir- but this is true of dairy kefir.

Treating your infection might be made easier if you figure out which yeasts and

bacteria you eat a lot of (and thus which are likely to be colonizing you), and

then find a probiotic supplement that contains a variety of *other*

microorganisms. You are much more likely to correct a bacterial or yeast

imbalance that way.

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kathleen. What do you do with the solution of peroxide, aloe gel, and

glycerin other than apply topically? What Metagencis probiotics are you using?

>

> It is thought that dairy probiotics may not survive digestive acids. That's

why I use Metagenics and not liquid acidophiles. Between the garlic and the

coconut kefir it's substantially subsiding. I make a solution with food grade

peroxide, aloe gel, and glycerin. Topically that works, too. It can sting like

crazy, temporarily....Kathleen

[Guest guest]

Thanks . That interesting the advice that your midwive gave. What kind

of probiotic did she suggest? I would really like to find a clear liquid or

gel. The yogurt is so messy and powders messy in their own way.

What would be the best way to treat my husband? I don't want to put him through

too much misery since he has no symptoms. Candida cures can be quite

intensive...

>

> Also remember that if you're sexually active with anyone, they need to be

treated as well. During my last pregnancy (when I had recurring yeast

infections), my midwife suggested that I rinse out a little with diluted

hydrogen peroxide, and then follow up immediately with the topical application

of a good probiotic.

>

> I have been dealing with a yeast infection on and off for months (due to

pregnancy), and have noticed that eating food with a lot of lactobacillus

actually makes it worse- so I think it's possible to overdose on any bacteria or

yeast, not just the " bad " ones.

>

> Kefir contains a host of " healthy " yeasts, which should compete with candida

albicans. I don't know about water kefir- but this is true of dairy kefir.

Treating your infection might be made easier if you figure out which yeasts and

bacteria you eat a lot of (and thus which are likely to be colonizing you), and

then find a probiotic supplement that contains a variety of *other*

microorganisms. You are much more likely to correct a bacterial or yeast

imbalance that way.

>

> Good luck,

>

[Guest guest]

The Peroxy Gel is used on everything except herpes sores. I found the remedy

and recipe in a book by Conrad LeBeau, " Hydrogen Peroxide and Ozone " . I use the

gel on everything - even removed neck pain. It's amazing stuff. His book is

very good with some good history about how Big Pharma got it's start. The

product from Metagenics I use is Ultra Flora Plus. But currently have a Jarrow

probiotic product, which I bought for my last parrot but now I'm using it and it

seems to work fine. I think if a chronic candida sufurer is consuming coconut

kefir, kraut, near-zero sugar kombucha, taking probiotics, etc. that they won't

suffer attacks. Kombucha alone, however, only keeps the infection just at bay.

Conrad LeBeau has another excellent book, " Natural Remedies for Intestinal

Health. " I highly recommend it. It's full of solutions for all kinds of issues

related to digestion, bacteria, fungus, virus, CFIDS, etc.

Kathleen

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From: keppers79 <kep-at-home@...>

nutrition

Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 5:07:41 PM

Subject: Re: probiotics for vaginal yeast infections?

Thanks Kathleen. What do you do with the solution of peroxide, aloe gel, and

glycerin other than apply topically? What Metagencis probiotics are you using?

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kathleen for your advice.

>

> The Peroxy Gel is used on everything except herpes sores. I found the remedy

and recipe in a book by Conrad LeBeau, " Hydrogen Peroxide and Ozone " . I use the

gel on everything - even removed neck pain. It's amazing stuff. His book is

very good with some good history about how Big Pharma got it's start. The

product from Metagenics I use is Ultra Flora Plus. But currently have a Jarrow

probiotic product, which I bought for my last parrot but now I'm using it and it

seems to work fine. I think if a chronic candida sufurer is consuming coconut

kefir, kraut, near-zero sugar kombucha, taking probiotics, etc. that they won't

suffer attacks. Kombucha alone, however, only keeps the infection just at bay.

Conrad LeBeau has another excellent book, " Natural Remedies for Intestinal

Health. " I highly recommend it. It's full of solutions for all kinds of issues

related to digestion, bacteria, fungus, virus, CFIDS, etc.

>

> Kathleen