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Whey has a very high protein content; builds up the Immune system; very

good for the muscles; a very higly absorbable form of nutrtional

protein. Protein is used by the system to repair and mantain cells.

so in effect Whey on a daily basis could help ward off diseases by

building up immunity; I have heard NOW Whey is good;www.nowfoods.com--

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It sure seems to! I started the whey about 10 days ago and have had

ridiculous gas. I just swtiched to another brand to see if that helps.

Someone had posted up here a while ago that they found a brand that

didn't cuase gas, but they didn't say which one, and never responded to

our inquiries. Very frustrating!

Duncan recommended starting with a partial amount and ramping up to the

full amount, which I've been doing, but the gas is still really bad. If

anyone has help, PLEASE let us know!

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Do you know if it can cause loose stools?  i can take it some days without any

problems and then other days i go to the bathrool almost right after it?  I

wonder what it is that causes this effect in me>  I thought it was good for your

bowels...

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From: JB <jb60634@...>

Subject: Re: whey

candidiasis

Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 3:46 PM

It sure seems to! I started the whey about 10 days ago and have had

ridiculous gas. I just swtiched to another brand to see if that helps.

Someone had posted up here a while ago that they found a brand that

didn't cuase gas, but they didn't say which one, and never responded to

our inquiries. Very frustrating!

Duncan recommended starting with a partial amount and ramping up to the

full amount, which I've been doing, but the gas is still really bad. If

anyone has help, PLEASE let us know!

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If you have really bad gas or loose stools that means you shouldn't be taking

whey.  Both happens to me and when I went to a dr. she did delayed reaction food

tests on me and it turns out I'm highly sensitive to ALL forms of dairy,

including whey.  Your body is trying to tell you something.

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It sure seems to! I started the whey about 10 days ago and have had

ridiculous gas. I just swtiched to another brand to see if that helps.

Someone had posted up here a while ago that they found a brand that

didn't cuase gas, but they didn't say which one, and never responded to

our inquiries. Very frustrating!

Duncan recommended starting with a partial amount and ramping up to the

full amount, which I've been doing, but the gas is still really bad. If

anyone has help, PLEASE let us know!

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Did you discuss this with Duncan? I'd be curious to know what he said.

What has worked for you?

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wow what happen?

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:07:42 -0800

Subject: Re: whey

Sue K.

Whey certainly did for me. It gave me more gut problems. It has taken me a

year to recoup the damage.

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I have been using whey, on Duncan's recommendation, for many many years.  I

searched all over the internet, looking for problems whey usage might create. 

If you read below, it states that the bloating and cramps can occur if not

sufficiently hydrated.  Further reading suggested letting it sit for a few

minutes after mixing.   I don't see any indications anywhere that I searched

that indicated side effects so bad that they would take a year to recover from

the damage.   I looked at a lot of sites and they said basically the same as

what I posted below.  Duncan cannot possibly know all of our bodies' needs.  His

advice has been consistently good. 

I don't drink milk, it doesn't like me much.  But I have no problems with

yoghurt, cheese, or whey products.  Maybe you can share with us which brand it

was?  What other ailments might you have that would have caused you to have

problems with whey?  How long did you take the whey before stopping its usage? 

Inulin, another product that Duncan advises us to use, and that I have also been

using for years, will definitely give you gas  lol   That stops after a while. 

If I stop taking the whey and the inulin, it doesn't take long before I notice

that I don't feel as well as I do when I am using it.

CONTRAINDICATIONS and WARNINGS

is contraindicated in individuals who develop or have known hypersensitivity to

specific milk proteins.  ™ contains <0.05% lactose and is generally well

tolerated by lactose-intolerant individuals. Patients undergoing

immunosuppressive therapy should discuss the use of this product with their

health professional.

ADVERSE REACTIONS

Gastrointestinal bloating and cramps can occur if the product is not

sufficiently rehydrated. Transient urticarial-like rash has been seen in rare

individuals undergoing severe detoxification reaction. Such rashes were found to

abate when product intake is stopped or reduced.

Re: whey

Sue K.

Whey certainly did for me. It gave me more gut problems. It has taken me a year

to recoup the damage.

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Thanks for the response diane, for me, it was just cramps and loose bowel

movements right after i drank it.  I have been drinking whey for about one year.

in the beginning i had crampy feelings but that when away.  I ran out for a week

or so and this happened when i began drinking it regularly but only had a weird

reaction once or twice.  For the most part i do not have trouble with it.  I

also read that i could been that i was not hydrated enought and that could cause

it.

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Sue K

From: Diane Trudeau <diana_true@...>

Subject: Re: Re: whey

candidiasis

Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 1:37 PM

I have been using whey, on Duncan's recommendation, for many many years.  I

searched all over the internet, looking for problems whey usage might create. 

If you read below, it states that the bloating and cramps can occur if not

sufficiently hydrated.  Further reading suggested letting it sit for a few

minutes after mixing.   I don't see any indications anywhere that I

searched that indicated side effects so bad that they would take a year to

recover from the damage.   I looked at a lot of sites and they said basically

the same as what I posted below.  Duncan cannot possibly know all of our

bodies' needs.  His advice has been consistently good. 

I don't drink milk, it doesn't like me much.  But I have no problems

with yoghurt, cheese, or whey products.  Maybe you can share with us which

brand it was?  What other ailments might you have that would have caused you

to have problems with whey?  How long did you take the whey before stopping

its usage? 

Inulin, another product that Duncan advises us to use, and that I have also

been using for years, will definitely give you gas  lol   That stops after a

while. 

If I stop taking the whey and the inulin, it doesn't take long before I

notice that I don't feel as well as I do when I am using it.

CONTRAINDICATIONS and WARNINGS

is contraindicated in individuals who develop or have known hypersensitivity to

specific milk proteins.  ™ contains <0.05% lactose and is generally well

tolerated by lactose-intolerant individuals. Patients undergoing

immunosuppressive therapy should discuss the use of this product with their

health professional.

ADVERSE REACTIONS

Gastrointestinal bloating and cramps can occur if the product is not

sufficiently rehydrated. Transient urticarial-like rash has been seen in rare

individuals undergoing severe detoxification reaction. Such rashes were found

to abate when product intake is stopped or reduced.

Re: whey

whey certainly did for me. It gave me more gut problems. It has taken me a year

to recoup the damage.

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Has anyone been able to get a sample of the whey Duncan recommends?  It would

make sense for us to be provided with this before shelling out the money for a

full-size product.

Re: whey

Sue K.

Whey certainly did for me. It gave me more gut problems. It has taken me a year

to recoup the damage.

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A while ago I posted a link to an article about MSG being often found

in whey protein. Duncan responded that it can be found in hydrolyzed

whey, but he indicated that the brand/type he sells is OK. I'd say if

you are taking one of those off the shelf body builder products you

might want to check that. Here's the link to my original post (scroll

down to see the responses):

candidiasis/message/60041

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if not

> sufficiently hydrated. Further reading suggested letting it sit for

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> minutes after mixing. I don't see any indications anywhere that I

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> the same as what I posted below. Duncan cannot possibly know all of our

> bodies' needs. His advice has been consistently good.

> I don't drink milk, it doesn't like me much. But I have no problems

> with yoghurt, cheese, or whey products. Maybe you can share with us

which

> brand it was? What other ailments might you have that would have

caused you

> to have problems with whey? How long did you take the whey before

stopping

> its usage?

> Inulin, another product that Duncan advises us to use, and that I

have also

> been using for years, will definitely give you gas lol That stops

after a

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> If I stop taking the whey and the inulin, it doesn't take long before I

> notice that I don't feel as well as I do when I am using it.

> CONTRAINDICATIONS and WARNINGS

> is contraindicated in individuals who develop or have known

hypersensitivity to

> specific milk proteins. ™ contains <0.05% lactose and is generally well

> tolerated by lactose-intolerant individuals. Patients undergoing

> immunosuppressive therapy should discuss the use of this product

with their

> health professional.

> ADVERSE REACTIONS

> Gastrointestinal bloating and cramps can occur if the product is not

> sufficiently rehydrated. Transient urticarial-like rash has been

seen in rare

> individuals undergoing severe detoxification reaction. Such rashes

were found

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Sue, yes the lactose in cold-processed whey can cause gas etc ...one

can avoid it by using low-lactose whey and still enjoy the benefits :)

Low-sugar whey might contain around 1 gram of lactose per dose of

around 30-35 grams.

All good,

Duncan ( briefly resurfacing from his lifelong honeymoon :)

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> Question, can you tell me why fresh whey is not on the diet? Does it contain

lactose?

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> Been making fermented pickles and salsa etc. Been using the extra tablespoon

of sea salt rather than whey and wondered what the issue with whey is.

+++Hi . Yes, whey contains lactose - here's an article that breaks

down the substances in whey:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/proteinisolate.php

The rule about lactose IS: the higher the butterfat content the lower the

lactose, so that is why butter is okay, while any other dairy products are not.

Cheers, Bee

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Doug, if you don't react to cheese you shouldn't react to whey solids. There's

no build up or anything like that.

Duncan

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initially you react ok, is it when it builds up in your system that some people

have a problem with it? Thanks Doug

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Duncan, what is your recommended dosing, as well as when to take it in relation

to vitamins and food? Thanks, first dose seemed ok. Doug

From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: Whey

candidiasis

Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 2:29 AM

 

Doug, if you don't react to cheese you shouldn't react to whey

solids. There's no build up or anything like that.

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initially you react ok, is it when it builds up in your system that some people

have a problem with it? Thanks Doug

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Doug, about 28-35 grams 2-3 times a day is a good amount of whey for most people

for health, double that for body building.

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My scoop is 20 grams for 6 oz water. If I do that 3 times a day would that be

sufficient? I think if I do 28 grams I will only do it twice. Which would you

choose, 20 gr. 3 times, or 28 grams twice? Would the 20 grams 3 times be ok?

Thanks Doug

From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: Whey

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Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 10:49 AM

 

Doug, about 28-35 grams 2-3 times a day is a good amount of

whey for most people for health, double that for body building.

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Doug, my Dyna Whey has a 35 gram scoop; nonetheless I use a rounded scoop of

around 40 grams, twice daily most days.

Depending on your product, 60 grams total should be in the ballpark for

glutathione production that will provide substantial benefit. Production varies

from whey to whey so I personally guess high and enjoy the advantage of having

the protein with the highest biological value, but you do what you like based on

your own guess and comfort level :) Some good wheys like Immunocal, Immunopro

etc are horribly expensive so some people cut back to 30 grams total, less than

half of what they'd use of a cheaper product.

Since ALL people who live to be 100 have unusually high glutathione levels, and

it forms the seat of immune response, obviously those who want to age well in

relative absence of disease will take steps to achieve high levels. For Carol,

high levels of glutathione promoters can not be obtained with whole raw milk

because you'd need to drink 10 gallons or more daily.

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Whey shouldn't cause sleepiness though, although there is some enzyme in it for

saiety. As I said by private email, I think the irritation and possibly gut

permeation is supplied by the commercial antifreeze preparation that you use for

constipation.

Our methods on the candidiasis list are unlike that in that they are

biologically supportive.

all good,

Duncan

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if I was having diarrhea from some sort of upset could the whey make it worse?

thanks, Doug

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