Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Sacha, most people mix the whey with water and drink it as a shake. Did you see the " glyconutrient pudding " recipe on this list? If not, a search will turn it up. You can't cook undenatured whey without destroying the most useful components. Duncan > > Hi Duncan > Sorry if this is a silly question, but how are you supposed to eat the whey. I don't have yorgurt, so I'm not quite sure what to put it in. > Also, can whey be used as a replacement of flour for cooking ingredients? > Sacha > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Whey is always gluten-free and nearly always casein-free. You're looking for UNdenatured whey, . Duncan > > is whey casein free and gluten free? > thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 I'm a total noob on whey... What is it? Don't " have " to answer that...but is it made from animals? I believe I heard it was long ago and is often added in bread. I was recommened to use this by in another thread... I saw it at the store, but had no idea what to get since all I saw was chocolate and other flavors added ect... so what brand/type is generaly recommened? Thanks astro > > I've been wondering more about whey and Candida. The whey product > that I use has > Active Protein Fractions* per 10 gram serving > Lactoferrin 3.4% 285 mg > Immunoglobulins(IgG)16.1% 1.3 grams > Serum Albumin 2.5% 210 mg > alpha-lactalbumin 48.0% > beta-lactoglobulin 13.7% > > There will be similarities between undenatured whey products > probably, but in any case, I looked up lactoferrin in the National > Medical Library and found several abstracts that indicate that > lactoferrin is an antifungal. > " Distinct antifungal activities of lactoferrin were observed against > clinical isolates of Candida " > > Laurie L. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Carolyn: a true allergy precludes any form of milk products, but a severe milk sensitivity does not preclude undenatured whey. According to the Physicians Desktop Reference for prescription drugs, undenatured whey (Immunocal in this case) is " well-tolerated by severely milk-sensitive individuals " . If you don't go into anaphylactic shock on exposure to trace amounts of milk products you should be fine on good-quality undenatured whey. I think an isolate might be better, but many sensitive people tolerate the good concentrates too. Whey is gluten-free unless they've added it, which is doubtful. Duncan > > . > This undenatured whey sounds exactly like what I need. I need all the > help I can get to keep from having the pneumonia return after I go off > the prednisone next week. > > Is whey gluten free? And is it acceptable for people with dairy > allergies? (I'm talking about true dairy allergy ... not lactose > intolerance.) > > Thanks. > > > Carolyn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Duncan wrote: > If you don't go into anaphylactic shock on exposure to trace amounts of milk products you should be fine on good-quality undenatured whey. I think an isolate might be better, but many sensitive people tolerate the good concentrates too. Thanks, Duncan. My food allergies cause bloating, runny nose, fatigue, etc. However, if whey will help heal the leaky gut, then it's worth the dairy side effects. Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 OK, Cartolyn; the good news is that this sensitivity reaction may not stop you from using undenatured whey. I think it's better to give it a try for a month or so than not because it is one of the most healing foods known. And, sensitivities are considerably reduced during a program of toxin reduction such as liver flushes, the inulin, undenatured whey and selenium. Seems when one is toxic they react more and to more things, than once toxins are reduced. Oxygen treatments will also help detoxify, so don't rule out the Homozon, 15 drops of food grade peroxide in a glass of water on an empty stomach, ozone therapy, that kind of thing. Duncan > > If you don't go into > anaphylactic shock on exposure to trace amounts of milk products you > should be fine on good-quality undenatured whey. I think an isolate > might be better, but many sensitive people tolerate the good > concentrates too. > > > Thanks, Duncan. My food allergies cause bloating, runny nose, > fatigue, etc. However, if whey will help heal the leaky gut, then > it's worth the dairy side effects. > > > Carolyn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Duncan wrote: > Oxygen treatments will also help detoxify, so don't rule out the Homozon, 15 drops of food grade peroxide in a glass of water on an empty stomach, ozone therapy, that kind of thing. Thanks, Duncan. This is a lot for me to take in at once (both mentally and physically<G>). Do I need to do it all concurrently, or can I try one thing at a time before adding something new? IOW, does their effectiveness rely on being used together? Or will I get benefit from each treatment individually? Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Caroly, biological support is nearly always better as a general program that addresses a spectrum of insufficiencies. Duncan > > Oxygen treatments will also help > detoxify, so don't rule out the Homozon, 15 drops of food grade > peroxide in a glass of water on an empty stomach, ozone therapy, that > kind of thing. > > > Thanks, Duncan. This is a lot for me to take in at once (both > mentally and physically<G>). Do I need to do it all concurrently, or > can I try one thing at a time before adding something new? IOW, does > their effectiveness rely on being used together? Or will I get > benefit from each treatment individually? > > > Carolyn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Duncan wrote: > Carolyn, biological support is nearly always better as a general program that addresses a spectrum of insufficiencies. LOL! Are you a politician? I'm a writer, yet I have no clue what that means. Carolyn, still chuckling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 What I mean Carolyn, is that when biology is impaired it's usually not due to a single insufficiency; when you're practicing biological support, several insufficiencies are addressed that are interconnected (the spectrum I was referring to). This is the wholistic nature of biological support as opposed to Big Medicine's allopathic model, which applies one intervention at a time. The general program I mentioned will address several deficiencies, several variables, several insufficiencies, at one time, because missing out on one or more can bring down the whole plan because of their interconected nature. Vitamins for example are used in a set because they are required in a set and if some are low the positive result one expects will be reduced. Toxin load is reduced for example in two ways (besides avoidance); by controlling the production of the toxins in the gut with inulin and probiotics, and by quenching the toxins and free radicals we already have coursing through us with a set of antioxidants and pH controls, the alkalizing minerals. Duncan > > Carolyn, biological support is nearly always better as a general > program that addresses a spectrum of insufficiencies. > > > LOL! Are you a politician? I'm a writer, yet I have no clue what that means. > > > Carolyn, still chuckling > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Why not take liposomal glutathione instead of whey?... I've been getting great results on it. On 11 Mar 2007 11:00:46 -0700, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote: > > What I mean Carolyn, is that when biology is impaired it's usually > not due to a single insufficiency; when you're practicing biological > support, several insufficiencies are addressed that are > interconnected (the spectrum I was referring to). This is the > wholistic nature of biological support as opposed to Big Medicine's > allopathic model, which applies one intervention at a time. > > The general program I mentioned will address several deficiencies, > several variables, several insufficiencies, at one time, because > missing out on one or more can bring down the whole plan because of > their interconected nature. > > Vitamins for example are used in a set because they are required in a > set and if some are low the positive result one expects will be > reduced. > > Toxin load is reduced for example in two ways (besides avoidance); by > controlling the production of the toxins in the gut with inulin and > probiotics, and by quenching the toxins and free radicals we already > have coursing through us with a set of antioxidants and pH controls, > the alkalizing minerals. > > Duncan > > > > > Carolyn, biological support is nearly always better as a general > > program that addresses a spectrum of insufficiencies. > > > > > > LOL! Are you a politician? I'm a writer, yet I have no clue what > that means. > > > > > > Carolyn, still chuckling > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 I don't recommend liposomal glutathione because although it's purported to increase GSH, no data I've seen indicates it absorbs into the bloodstream, cells, or mitochondria. The single successful study in PubMed indicates local absorption in lung tissue, but regular glutathione also absorbs locally into a few specific tissues, bowel lining included if it's enteric coated. Local absorption does not fulfil the need for systemic glutathione increase in illness, and local absorption will be spotty, not what we want. Until the data materializes I will stick with undenatured whey, which HAS been well studied and proven to increase cellular glutathione systemically. Also, if liposomal GSH does work and zero is wasted, a very conservative dose of 1000 mg per day would cost upwards of $18 US per day so is a lot more expensive than undenatured whey and selenium, which is also a better metabolic enhancer to help people gain muscle tone and lose fat. Duncan > > > > Carolyn, biological support is nearly always better as a general > > > program that addresses a spectrum of insufficiencies. > > > > > > > > > LOL! Are you a politician? I'm a writer, yet I have no clue what > > that means. > > > > > > > > > Carolyn, still chuckling > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Duncan wrote: > What I mean Carolyn, is that when biology is impaired it's usually not due to a single insufficiency; when you're practicing biological support, several insufficiencies are addressed that are interconnected (the spectrum I was referring to). ... > Vitamins for example are used in a set because they are required in a set and if some are low the positive result one expects will be reduced. Oh, I got it. Sort of like exercising opposing muscle groups so that one isn't out of balance with the other. Thanks so much for the expanded explanation. I'm learning so much from you and all the others on this fantastic loop. Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Sue, all these months you've never clicked on the cancer treatment with undenatured whey studies, the third but possibly most important link on my page? Tsk ...the whole page is a valuable resource! http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html Duncan > > Duncan, > > I remember you advised that whey will help with the > treatment for cancers. What type of cancers does it > help with? I beleive its colon but i am not sure > > thanks > > =^.^= > Sue K > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 duncen, I did click on you page and see the reference that by raising levels of glutathione you can reverse cancer. ALl of this from whey? thanks =^.^= Sue K __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Sue, I think if you look at the published study it's a compilation of many, around 50 I think, that reduced cancer with undenatured whey. I'm not sure what ALL you were referring to, but as a guess, it's all they used in these cases yes. Duncan > > duncen, > > I did click on you page and see the reference that by > raising levels of glutathione you can reverse cancer. > > ALl of this from whey? > > thanks > > =^.^= > Sue K > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Everything i have read regarding whey is positive, what are the negative effects of it on your body? My naturalpath dr highly refers to whey in many ways and cant seen anything wrong with it for me. Any comments sue > Sue, SELECTION that people are only learning about > will give them > varying results, which leads to experience-based > controversy. That > said, I think that most people who talk about it are > speculating > based on insufficient data. They have little or no > first hand > experience with it and are not reading from the same > (data) page > either. The data, which is the same for everybody, > is a good start; I > put the details of whey selection on my site so > people could get to > the same page > > Duncan > > > > > > Why is there so much controversy over whey? > > > > Why does it work for some and others have such > trouble > > with it? > > > > I do nt get it? > > > > =^.^= > > Sue K > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Barring sensitivity, there's no downside to undenatured whey. Body builders use 180 grams or so; how much do you take? Duncan > > > > > > Why is there so much controversy over whey? > > > > > > Why does it work for some and others have such > > trouble > > > with it? > > > > > > I do nt get it? > > > > > > =^.^= > > > Sue K > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 i take 1 scoop daily with strawberries n water. Sometimes a bit of tumeric or cinnamon added. I know you dont approve but i still take the designer whey until i have used it all up. When you ask how many gram i take, grams of what? Protein is 18 grams, delivery propriety blend is 22.35 grams. Not sure if i answered that correctly but i tried. sue --- Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote: > Barring sensitivity, there's no downside to > undenatured whey. Body > builders use 180 grams or so; how much do you take? > > Duncan > > > > > > > > > > Why is there so much controversy over whey? > > > > > > > > Why does it work for some and others have such > > > trouble > > > > with it? > > > > > > > > I do nt get it? > > > > > > > > =^.^= > > > > Sue K > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 , don't heat undenatured whey past about 163 fahrenheit, that's all ....that's quite warm, not hot. The selenomethionine probably matters too; just don't cook it. Duncan > > can it be put in a warm drink - does the warmth affect it at all - how > about the selenium - i keep it in the frig -but i am not sure that is > for shelf life or viability > lisa c > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Thanks you again - i was slipping it into my children's warm drinks but they drinks are just warm enough to be considered warm to the touch > > > > can it be put in a warm drink - does the warmth affect it at all - how > > about the selenium - i keep it in the frig -but i am not sure that is > > for shelf life or viability > > lisa c > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 can anyone chime in here on whey. I left a post for duncan but i think he checks in from time to time what does the group feel about whey causing loose bowel movements? thanks =^.^= Sue K ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Hi Sue, I have never found this but then, I have the opposite problem! Hubby tends to be like this if there is anything at all likely to cause it, but he is fine on the whey, no problems. Dee -- Re: whey Can anyone chime in here on whey. I left a post for Duncan but I think he checks in from time to time What does the group feel about whey causing loose Bowel movements? Thanks =^.^= Sue K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Sue K I had diarrhea from the whey. I tried for 4 months. I had to stop. I am now taking N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine, L Glutamine and Alpha lipoic acid instead to heal the gut and aid in glutathione enhancement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 I get Jarrow from iHerb and it says it is undenatured. Dee -- whey I have jarrow's 100% natural whey protein. Nowhere on the package Does it say that it is denatured. Is it the correct kind? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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