Guest guest Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 I buy most of my supplements from stores advertizing on the internet. I'd look for a brand of undenatured whey with NO sugar or artifical sweeteners. I would not be too concerned about which brand had more protein or was the most fortified. I do not need to replace any meals with a liquid whey drink, and I already supplement with vitamins and minerals. Alobar On 12/31/06, Sally <sally.hoffman@...> wrote: > Just been to health food shop to look at whey. > > Could not find any cold pressed. All but one had some form of > artificial sweetner. The choice was mind boggling. Different amounts > of protein too. Protein meal replacement seemed more expensive than > whey for muscle building but had less protein. Some had extra stuff in > vitamin complex etc. I ended up buying zilch. > What protein content should i be looking for if i'm not that active. > I was told i should have more protein to boost metabolism and still > don't know what quantities i need to take. > How easy or difficult is it to make your own whey? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Don't gauge undenatured whey by protein weight, Sally, but by the criteria I posted on my website. That being said a good cold-processed sugar-free additive free whey concentrate will be almost 90% protein. Since you're told you need more protein you should take it for breakfast and a bedtime snack, with no carbs, at a dose of about 36-40 grams. This will help maintain your HGH levels and metabolic rate so you can build lean tissue and organs. If you go on SomaLife gHP you'll have to take your whey protein at least an hour before or 45 minutes after the SomaLife gHP. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 If that is true,i would like to know why. The extra calories for sure,but it could be other things also. In the research Im doing not all whey are the same. Many have heaps of sugar,some almost 70% and over. Then there is the lactose as well and some are allergic to that and its the allergy to that that makes some put on weight. So if it has lactose and high sugar,up goes the weight. Ive got onto 2 companies that have cold processed whey with little sugar and 1% lactose. Getting a price soon,but the point is,depending on whats in the whey is going to effect weight gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 what site do you order this whey from? thanx --- k8teeth <stonesigns@...> wrote: > If that is true,i would like to know why. The extra calories for > sure,but it could be other things also. > In the research Im doing not all whey are the same. > Many have heaps of sugar,some almost 70% and over. > Then there is the lactose as well and some are allergic to that and its > the allergy to that that makes some put on weight. So if it has lactose > and high sugar,up goes the weight. > Ive got onto 2 companies that have cold processed whey with little > sugar and 1% lactose. Getting a price soon,but the point is,depending > on whats in the whey is going to effect weight gain. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Jovelle,What I meant was whey's natural sugars...NOT added. Whey that has its natural sugars left in is very high in this sugar. You can get it without that in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 what brand? and where? --- k8teeth <stonesigns@...> wrote: > Jovelle,What I meant was whey's natural sugars...NOT added. Whey that > has its natural sugars left in is very high in this sugar. You can get > it without that in. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 The minimum that can be left from my research is 10%. If they havnt got any sugars on the contents,then I would doubt their honesty. Sugars can be counted as carbs.Whey liquid is put through ceramic filters to take out sugars and lactose. Without these filters,whey has a lot of sugar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Hi, I seem to know very little about whey....I had used a drink that had low calorie and sugar and 15 grams of protein...it was a clear fruit flavored drink..NOT milky or chaulky....I've tried some protein drinks since, but they all seem to be this milk chaulky kind of stuff which I seem to have a hard time with. Does anyone know, again sorry I know so little about this, if whey is available to be used in a more clear fruit type of drink??? If I mixed, it comes in a powder, in fruit juice would it just thicken some, but not be milky??? Any help on this would be appreciated, since I see so many of you talking about whey on here. Thanks. SeaLady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 , I think we should clarify that whey with 10% sugar might be true for some unfiltered whey but anything filtered can be much lower; the whey I'm using now has 1-g carb in a 36-g scoop, or less than 2.8%, the Now Whey Isolate on my whey page is under 3.6% and the MRM is a bit over 7% sugar; I don't know about the Jarrow, the Source Naturals is 10%, probably unfiltered, and Immunocal isolate, which was my first whey product, is said to be carb-free. I agree they should show sugars on the label; think it's the law in Canada; at any rate the whey I'm currently using declares 1 gram carbs and 0 grams sugar, while my MRM metabolic whey, an American product, shows 0 gram carb 1 gram sugars. Sorry, I don't know how much sugar the Jarrow whey contains, can anyone fill us in on the label? Duncan On 14 Jan 2007 at 8:41, Coconut Oil wrote: > > Posted by: " k8teeth " stonesigns@... k8teeth > Date: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:51 pm ((PST)) > > The minimum that can be left from my research is 10%. If they havnt > got any sugars on the contents,then I would doubt their honesty. > Sugars can be counted as carbs.Whey liquid is put through ceramic > filters to take out sugars and lactose. Without these filters,whey has > a lot of sugar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Hi Duncan, Per the suggestions at your website I purchased Jarrow Formulas Whey. The Supplemental facts list the total carbs as being 1 Gram - Sugars 1 Gram; I would interpret this as being total carbs in the form of 1 Gram of sugar. This is based upon 1 Scoop serving equaling 23 grams. I could only get the unflavored......which as it turns out is delicious in milk by making it more creamier in taste and texture. The unflavored probably helps cut back on the sugar content as well. Jarrow has no artificial sweeteners, colors or flavors listed as ingredients. > > > > > Posted by: " k8teeth " stonesigns@... k8teeth > > Date: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:51 pm ((PST)) > > > > The minimum that can be left from my research is 10%. If they havnt > > got any sugars on the contents,then I would doubt their honesty. > > Sugars can be counted as carbs.Whey liquid is put through ceramic > > filters to take out sugars and lactose. Without these filters,whey has > > a lot of sugar. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 I did a google Nytrowhey has sucralose, so not for me. http://www.prosource.net/nytrowhey-extreme-vanilla/6477-1/2242/ Alobar On 1/14/07, Jovelle Baker <tojovelle@...> wrote: > > > k8teeth <stonesigns@...> wrote: " Jovelle,Id like to know the brand of whey you use,I'll look into it as > finding a whey that has no sugar is very rare. " > > I use NytroWhey Extreme however, I'm not concerned as to why it has no sugar. I know that it has no blood sugar impact and that is the most important factor in my using it. If it has minute amounts, it still has no negative impact for me. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Actually a request to Duncan or anyone else. Can you give me a link to the manufacturer of this Jarrow Whey. I want to contact them and find out if they have a customer/distributor here in Hong Kong. Thanks in advance for any info. ]Cheers, Doug Re: Whey Hi Duncan, Per the suggestions at your website I purchased Jarrow Formulas Whey. The Supplemental facts list the total carbs as being 1 Gram - Sugars 1 Gram; I would interpret this as being total carbs in the form of 1 Gram of sugar. This is based upon 1 Scoop serving equaling 23 grams. I could only get the unflavored......which as it turns out is delicious in milk by making it more creamier in taste and texture. The unflavored probably helps cut back on the sugar content as well. Jarrow has no artificial sweeteners, colors or flavors listed as ingredients. > > > > > Posted by: " k8teeth " stonesigns@... k8teeth > > Date: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:51 pm ((PST)) > > > > The minimum that can be left from my research is 10%. If they havnt > > got any sugars on the contents,then I would doubt their honesty. > > Sugars can be counted as carbs.Whey liquid is put through ceramic > > filters to take out sugars and lactose. Without these filters,whey has > > a lot of sugar. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Again...can someone explain this more....what Whey tastes like...can it be mixed in fruit juice or does anyone know of a product that contains whey that is a more clear and fruity drink??? SeaLady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 > It is in a powdered form that you can mix with water or milk. I make a smoothie out of it. Fruit, coconut milk, and whey, delicious. I get the vanilla flavour. If you mix it with milk it is just like a milkshake. > Again...can someone explain this more....what Whey tastes like...can it be > mixed in fruit juice or does anyone know of a product that contains whey > that is a more clear and fruity drink??? > > SeaLady > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Here is their contact page from their website. http://www.jarrow.com/contact_us.php Alobar On 1/15/07, Murray <doublaswalter@...> wrote: > Actually a request to Duncan or anyone else. > Can you give me a link to the manufacturer of this Jarrow Whey. I want to contact them and find out if they have a customer/distributor here in Hong Kong. > Thanks in advance for any info. > ]Cheers, Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Uni-key whey isn't better than alternatives because it's 16% sugar, 5% inulin, 5% fat; it woudn't pass muster on the candidiasis, diabetes or cancer groups. Does it give the fractions of alpha-lactalbumin, serum albumin and beta-lactoglobulins on the label? The company does not on the website but it does disclose more than 3 grams (10%) glutamic acid per serving, which indicates it's probably a hydrolyzed product. Non-hydrolyzed undenatured whey contains more glutamine peptides for glutathione production and less MSG from the hyrolyzation process, if that makes a difference. An excellent alternative at a third of the price is the Jarrow undenatured whey, which discloses those values; it raises the bar on whey competition due to higher glutathione precursors and lower glutamate because it's non-hydrolyzed, and has almost 2/3 less sugar: http://tinyurl.com/yj8nop The Jarrow undenatured whey concentrate could be used as something of a benchmark for higher-quality undenatured whey concentrates; it even beats some isolates. Duncan On 16 Jan 2007 at 8:40, Coconut Oil wrote: > > I did a google. Here is more info. > http://secure.unikeyhealth.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=51 > > Alobar > > On 1/15/07, Jackie <jacqueline33875@...> wrote: > > i use Uni-Key. it is cold pressed. expensive , but worth it. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Thank you for that; OK, the Jarrow Whey concentrate with no additives contains a maximum of 1 gram of carbs in a 23 gram scoop. I'd consider upping the dose to 30 grams or more; protein absorption is said to be about 40 grams in a sitting but I'm not sure it applies to whey. Anyway, the scoop in the whey I use is 36 grams. Duncan > Posted by: " saffireskyes " saffireskyes@... saffireskyes > Date: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:49 am ((PST)) > > Hi Duncan, > Per the suggestions at your website I purchased Jarrow Formulas Whey. > The Supplemental facts list the total carbs as being 1 Gram - Sugars 1 > Gram; I would interpret this as being total carbs in the form of 1 > Gram of sugar. This is based upon 1 Scoop serving equaling 23 grams. > > I could only get the unflavored......which as it turns out is > delicious in milk by making it more creamier in taste and texture. The > unflavored probably helps cut back on the sugar content as well. > Jarrow has no artificial sweeteners, colors or flavors listed as > ingredients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 You're welcome.Thanks for the dose suggestion. Coincidently, I began by taking 1 scoop and 1/3 more. Instead, I will begin taking 1 scoop 2x a day for 2 separate servings of 46 grams. With what I consider this morning " meal " I've also started taking Alpa Lipoic Acid, Super E complex, DMAE, and Pycnogenol, and BComplex as additional supplements. I immediately noticed a difference in my physical energy. For anyone interested in Jarrow, which is really delicious even as unflavored, it is definately less expensive buying on line, and not readily available as a stock shelf item at Vitamine Shoppe. I was lucky to walk into a store that had it as a special order item that wasn't picked up by a customer. I paid $20, but I've since seen it on line for $13.99 for same quantity. > > Thank you for that; OK, the Jarrow Whey concentrate with no > additives contains a maximum of 1 gram of carbs in a 23 gram > scoop. > > I'd consider upping the dose to 30 grams or more; protein > absorption is said to be about 40 grams in a sitting but I'm not > sure it applies to whey. Anyway, the scoop in the whey I use is > 36 grams. > > Duncan > > > > Posted by: " saffireskyes " saffireskyes@... saffireskyes > > Date: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:49 am ((PST)) > > > > Hi Duncan, > > Per the suggestions at your website I purchased Jarrow Formulas Whey. > > The Supplemental facts list the total carbs as being 1 Gram - Sugars 1 > > Gram; I would interpret this as being total carbs in the form of 1 > > Gram of sugar. This is based upon 1 Scoop serving equaling 23 grams. > > > > I could only get the unflavored......which as it turns out is > > delicious in milk by making it more creamier in taste and texture. The > > unflavored probably helps cut back on the sugar content as well. > > Jarrow has no artificial sweeteners, colors or flavors listed as > > ingredients. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 I've had chocolate Whey in the past so I was reluctant to buy unflavored. Since I have no aversion to milk, (I buy organic) the unflavored Jarrow suits me just fine now. Whey, unflavored is really more of a tasteless powder that can be mixed with anything. In fruit juices, which I avoid because of the sugars, I'd imagine that it would create a thin smoothie texture. > > > It is in a powdered form that you can mix with water or milk. I make > a smoothie out of it. Fruit, coconut milk, and whey, delicious. I > get the vanilla flavour. If you mix it with milk it is just like a > milkshake. > > > > > > > Again...can someone explain this more....what Whey tastes > like...can it be > > mixed in fruit juice or does anyone know of a product that contains > whey > > that is a more clear and fruity drink??? > > > > SeaLady > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 The other day I made a smoothie with the following: 1 c. milk (I often use watered down coconut milk - sometimes a mixture of dairy milk and coconut milk) 1 small frozen banana in chunks about 1/4 to 1/3 cup cooked steel-cut oatmeal (I keep a supply of cooked oats in refrig) Scoop of NOW Vanilla Whey Powder equivalent to 28 grams protein (in the future I will buy plain whey and add a few drops of real vanilla after reading what Duncan's been sharing) Stevia powder to taste (I use the NOW brand) 2 rounded teaspoons plain cocoa A spoonful or so of VCO (I used to use nut butter but I really like it with VCO) Blend or process till smooth and creamy -- I made a few batches because I was doing it for three people. I ended up with about a cup too much, so I put it in the refrigerator. It eventually separates and does not look like a shake anymore. The next afternoon I was kind of hungry and noticed the jar of separated smoothie sitting in the fridge. I was cold, so I decided to give it a stir and warm it up. SURPRISE! It was delicious--thick enough to eat with a spoon. It reminded me of a chocolate pudding cake recipe I used to make. Mari --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 After seeing this last week, it would seem that eating much less meat in any form that is provided by the wholesale industry sould be of utmost consideration. I've read articles, but not studies, where it is believed that animals slaughtered in such fashion retain extremely high levels of adrenaline in tissue of the animal which then enters the system of the person eating the meat. I think....this theory makes sense. Warning. This video is NOT for those who wish to remain indifferent. You will be reminded of it when perusing the meat counters of your grocery store. http://www.meat.org/index-1.asp?c=MYMblogad0107 > > Can you eat only fruits, veggies and protien(organic meat or whey) and stay healthly? of course > with a multi vit, omega 3, fish oil, flaxseeds, VCO. do you need starches? like > potatoes,beans,pasta. will you be healthly and possibly lose weight? > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Kirsteen, warm whey is fine, but at over about 160 degrees the glutathione precursors break, so don't use boiling water. Duncan > > Duncan > > I take the whey every morning as a smoothie but I'd like to take it at night > sometimes as a hot drink. Is it all right to add it to hot water or does > that undo all the good of taking it. > > Thanks > Kirsteen > > -- > Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 On 1/21/07, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote: > > Kirsteen, warm whey is fine, but at over about 160 degrees the > glutathione precursors break, so don't use boiling water. Thanks Duncan I'll give it a try. Cheers Kirsteen Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Sacha, " Dairy " is a loose catch-all term used by those who don't know the difference (like " fat " ), and by agendists who don't want YOU to know the difference. Milk is the only obligatory food of all mammals. Survival of the species has relied for eons on this being an entirely beneficial and reliable pathway of assimilation. What the problem is is that some components are different between manmmals and these can cause issues in sensitive people. The components that can cause issues are, primarily casein, sometimes lactose, and rarely, beta-lactoglobulins; they can be removed. The casein and most of the lactose have been removed in most undenatured whey; when all of the differing components are removed the balance is exactly the same across the whole mammalian order. So the casein IS removed and although there may be traces of lactose in SOME undenatured whey brands, lactose intolerance shouldn't be a problem when your bowel ecology is in order, because a correct bowel ecology supplies the missing enzyme to break it down that some people do not produce. You can also take lactase, a digestive enzyme, and not worry about lactose. So, your naturopath should be upgrading his skill, that's all; this information is more than 15 years old. Whey does not contain milk; milk contains whey. Duncan > > Hi Duncan, > So I got my Whey order today. And I just realized something, it contains milk...the naturopath told me that my body cannot take dairy. I don't think I am lactose though.. Is this a problem? > Sacha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Hi Duncan Sorry if this is a silly question, but how are you supposed to eat the whey. I don't have yorgurt, so I'm not quite sure what to put it in. Also, can whey be used as a replacement of flour for cooking ingredients? Sacha __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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