Allergy to yeast, now what?

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

I am a newbie here, and new at fermenting (just the last few months) and

LOVE it. We have major gut/allergy issues over here and this seemed perfect

to get all the good 'bugs' in our systems. But the big HOWEVER is that

yeast is one of my biggest allergens, and despite eating yummy fermented

foods over the last few months, I have gotten worse, not better. And every

time I removed fermented foods from my diet, I get better. And it isn't

just detox symptoms, I am sure (I blood tested postive to yeast allergy).

My youngest (1 yr old) son asked for pickles tonight and his face turned

bright red everywhere the brine touched his skin, and it didn't go away for

hours. So obviously HE has the same reaction to yeasts that I do.

I am really feeling stuck with healing the gut when I can't eat what would

be most beneficial, the good bugs. So, I am looking for suggestions,

stories, anything that has helped you or a loved one heal, and how one can

move past such allergies and eat really good, healthy food.

ANY help, links, thoughts, advice.......gossip (lol) appreciated.

Thank you-

Lindsey

[Guest guest]

My favorite " healers " at the moment are glucomannan and bentonite.

Yeast IS a big issue for people, esp. people with gluten intolerance

.... yeast (esp. candida) and gluten share a peptide string so the body

gets sorta confused.

Glucomannan and bentonite both share the property that they glom on to

this peptide, which is sticky and irritating. I don't eat wheat on

purpose, ever, but I do eat yeast. I also take a mix of the above with

each meal.

My basic mix is:

- 1/2 cup psyllium (metamucil: this is basically a carrier but it

might be good in it's own right).

- 1 tsp. glucomannan powder

- 1 tsp. bentonite

Mix it all up.

When you are ready to eat, take 1 tsp of that mixture, sprinkle it on

a cup of water and mix ...drink it down fast. Otherwise it turns into

jello. Some people actually LIKE the jello version, but I don't.

Then eat your meal as per normal.

Glucomannan appears to be healing all by it's lonesome ... it helps

eczema and arthritis in dogs and mice, anyway. Also helps with blood

glucose regulation. But I take it for digestion issue (which it's also

shown to be good for, in the lab). Bentonite, ditto. It's kind of a

stopgap til your immune system gets better, but it works for me!

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:53 PM, L P<LindseyLove@...> wrote:

> Hi All,

> I am a newbie here, and new at fermenting (just the last few months) and

> LOVE it.  We have major gut/allergy issues over here and this seemed perfect

> to get all the good 'bugs' in our systems.  But the big HOWEVER is that

> yeast is one of my biggest allergens, and despite eating yummy fermented

> foods over the last few months, I have gotten worse, not better.  And every

> time I removed fermented foods from my diet, I get better.  And it isn't

> just detox symptoms, I am sure (I blood tested postive to yeast allergy).

> My youngest (1 yr old) son asked for pickles tonight and his face turned

> bright red everywhere the brine touched his skin, and it didn't go away for

> hours.  So obviously HE has the same reaction to yeasts that I do.

> I am really feeling stuck with healing the gut when I can't eat what would

> be most beneficial, the good bugs.  So, I am looking for suggestions,

> stories, anything that has helped you or a loved one heal, and how one can

> move past such allergies and eat really good, healthy food.

>

> ANY help, links, thoughts, advice.......gossip (lol) appreciated.

>

> Thank you-

>

> Lindsey

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

HI HEATHER!

WHERE DO ALL THOSE COMPOUNDS COME FROM, I MEAN.. DO YOU BUY THEM AT ANY AVERAGE

NATURAL FOOD SHOP?

THANKS,A.

--- On Tue, 6/16/09,

[Guest guest]

HI LINDSEY!

HAVE YOY TRIED WITH LENTIL REJUVELAC? IT IS DETOXIFYING AND ENZYME ENRICHING AND

FULL OF VITAMINS. I EVEN THINK WHEAT REJUVELAC DOESN´T HOLD GLUTEN BUT AM NOT SO

SURE.

KOMBUCHA? DOES HAVE YEAST THOUGH...

AND ALSO, WHICH IS NOT FERMENTED BUT SMALL GROWTH ANYWAY, WHEATGRASS (IT DOESN´T

CONTAIN GLUTEN) AND IS PRETTY NON YEASTY (THE MINERALS AND ENZYMES ARE THE

GRASS´. GOOD FOR DIGESTIVE TRACT AND NTI-CANCERIGENOUS, PLUS MUCH MORE.

ALSO, BE CAREFUL OF MIXING OR EATING DAIRY TOO CLOSE IN TIME TO SOME OTHER

FERMENTS BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON´T PROCESS IT PROPERLY. BEAR IN MIND DAIRY TAKES

ABOUT FOUR HOURS AT LEAST TO BE DIGESTED (SOM DOCTORS SAY THE WHOLE PROCESS

TAKES 24 HOURS!)

HOPE IT COMES IN HANDYA.

From: L P <LindseyLove@...>

Subject: Allergy to yeast, now what?

nutrition

Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 12:53 AM

Hi All,

I am a newbie here, and new at fermenting (just the last few months) and

LOVE it. We have major gut/allergy issues over here and this seemed perfect

to get all the good 'bugs' in our systems. But the big HOWEVER is that

yeast is one of my biggest allergens, and despite eating yummy fermented

foods over the last few months, I have gotten worse, not better. And every

time I removed fermented foods from my diet, I get better. And it isn't

just detox symptoms, I am sure (I blood tested postive to yeast allergy).

My youngest (1 yr old) son asked for pickles tonight and his face turned

bright red everywhere the brine touched his skin, and it didn't go away for

hours. So obviously HE has the same reaction to yeasts that I do.

I am really feeling stuck with healing the gut when I can't eat what would

be most beneficial, the good bugs. So, I am looking for suggestions,

stories, anything that has helped you or a loved one heal, and how one can

move past such allergies and eat really good, healthy food.

ANY help, links, thoughts, advice...... .gossip (lol) appreciated.

Thank you-

Lindsey

[Guest guest]

If you're looking to re-balance intestinal flora, there are several excellent

high-cell-count, high-strain-count probiotics out there that contain absolutely

no yeast at all.

The one I've used has ten strains and 50 billion cell count.  This helps balance

the intestinal tract excellently if there is an imbalance.

Do you know if you have a systemic candida issue as well?  Blood testing for

this seems sparse, since too many doctors do not take the condition seriously,

despite the proliferation of yeast-based diseases since the inception of

antibiotics.

I almost never eat yeast-containing or gluten-containing foods by default, just

as part of my overall health plan.  It has served me very very well, with low

bodyfat and excellent energy levels.  I thing absolutely everyone should

experiment with elimination of both to see how they feel.  It can often be

dramatic.

Tim, aka facelessfatloss on youtube

" In the Moment. "

..

From: L P <LindseyLove@...>

Subject: Allergy to yeast, now what?

nutrition

Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 3:53 AM

Hi All,

I am a newbie here, and new at fermenting (just the last few months) and

LOVE it. We have major gut/allergy issues over here and this seemed perfect

to get all the good 'bugs' in our systems. But the big HOWEVER is that

yeast is one of my biggest allergens, and despite eating yummy fermented

foods over the last few months, I have gotten worse, not better. And every

time I removed fermented foods from my diet, I get better. And it isn't

just detox symptoms, I am sure (I blood tested postive to yeast allergy).

My youngest (1 yr old) son asked for pickles tonight and his face turned

bright red everywhere the brine touched his skin, and it didn't go away for

hours. So obviously HE has the same reaction to yeasts that I do.

I am really feeling stuck with healing the gut when I can't eat what would

be most beneficial, the good bugs. So, I am looking for suggestions,

stories, anything that has helped you or a loved one heal, and how one can

move past such allergies and eat really good, healthy food.

ANY help, links, thoughts, advice...... .gossip (lol) appreciated.

Thank you-

Lindsey

[Guest guest]

Hi Tim,

We are dairy (all animals and versions),soy,wheat/gluten,mushroom, and junk-free

(no artificial anything, no colors, no preservatives, etc). I did test positive

for systemic candida, on the lower end--but that was when I was healthier, too.

My health is again, terrible.

For anyone with Candida, I am still trying to figure out how this is possible,

but I was absolutely my healthiest (body weight, energy, skin, etc) when I was

on a HIGH carb, low fat diet (I was a 'raw' vegan, meaning I ate all

fruits,veggies,nuts and seeds without heating or in their mostly fresh state).

What confuses is me is that I ate a lot fruit, which means a lot of fructose,

and the candida level actually went DOWN. I have read that eating sugars and

fats separately is helpful, because it doesn't make the sugars as available to

the candida as when you eat fats with sugar, and I did this mostly because I ate

my fats towards the end of the day and my sugars mostly during the day.

Tim--how are you able to eat fermented foods and avoid yeast? I certainly do

better with natural yeast then say, brewers or bakers, etc, but even after

enough fermeneted foods my body just breaks down. I am so frustrated.

Anyway, thanks for your post. What Probiotics are you talking about? Do you

order them or purchase locally?

Lindsey

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> From: L P <LindseyLove@...>

> Subject: Allergy to yeast, now what?

> nutrition

> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 3:53 AM

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> Hi All,

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> I am a newbie here, and new at fermenting (just the last few months) and

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> LOVE it. We have major gut/allergy issues over here and this seemed perfect

>

> to get all the good 'bugs' in our systems. But the big HOWEVER is that

>

> yeast is one of my biggest allergens, and despite eating yummy fermented

>

> foods over the last few months, I have gotten worse, not better. And every

>

> time I removed fermented foods from my diet, I get better. And it isn't

>

> just detox symptoms, I am sure (I blood tested postive to yeast allergy).

>

> My youngest (1 yr old) son asked for pickles tonight and his face turned

>

> bright red everywhere the brine touched his skin, and it didn't go away for

>

> hours. So obviously HE has the same reaction to yeasts that I do.

>

> I am really feeling stuck with healing the gut when I can't eat what would

>

> be most beneficial, the good bugs. So, I am looking for suggestions,

>

> stories, anything that has helped you or a loved one heal, and how one can

>

> move past such allergies and eat really good, healthy food.

>

>

>

> ANY help, links, thoughts, advice...... .gossip (lol) appreciated.

>

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> Thank you-

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> Lindsey

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[Guest guest]

How interesting, I never knew that they shared a peptide, I just recently

learned that garbanzo beans and dairy have a similar protein chain (which

probably explains why I love hummus).

I had heard or read that bentonite can actually prevent absorption of minerals,

do you know anything about this?

I already have bentonite and have yet to use it or try it, I wanted to try it

with my youngest son (supposedly it is good for teeth issues as well) but am

concerned about the potential absorption issues considering we already have

those issues with the inflammed gut. UGH.

Btw, thank you all for listening to me vent. Some days I am so overwhelmed with

information (and conflicting information) my head is spinning! lol

Lindsey

--- In nutrition ,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Do you have a recipe for Lentil Rejuvelac? I can't do kombucha, though I love

it, it tears my skin up (and who knows what internally).

Thank you!!

Lindsey

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> From: L P <LindseyLove@...>

> Subject: Allergy to yeast, now what?

> nutrition

> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 12:53 AM

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> Hi All,

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> I am a newbie here, and new at fermenting (just the last few months) and

>

> LOVE it. We have major gut/allergy issues over here and this seemed perfect

>

> to get all the good 'bugs' in our systems. But the big HOWEVER is that

>

> yeast is one of my biggest allergens, and despite eating yummy fermented

>

> foods over the last few months, I have gotten worse, not better. And every

>

> time I removed fermented foods from my diet, I get better. And it isn't

>

> just detox symptoms, I am sure (I blood tested postive to yeast allergy).

>

> My youngest (1 yr old) son asked for pickles tonight and his face turned

>

> bright red everywhere the brine touched his skin, and it didn't go away for

>

> hours. So obviously HE has the same reaction to yeasts that I do.

>

> I am really feeling stuck with healing the gut when I can't eat what would

>

> be most beneficial, the good bugs. So, I am looking for suggestions,

>

> stories, anything that has helped you or a loved one heal, and how one can

>

> move past such allergies and eat really good, healthy food.

>

>

>

> ANY help, links, thoughts, advice...... .gossip (lol) appreciated.

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> Thank you-

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> Lindsey

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[Guest guest]

I don't know if health food stores have glucomannan yet ... they might. I

get that from miraclenoodles.com. Psyllium is pretty standard, and you can

get a commercial version as Metamucil in any pharmacy (some people don't

like that brand because it has food coloring and a couple of other less

natural things in it). Bentonite they sell in health food stores these days,

or you can buy it online.

BTW it's really difficult to read all caps ...

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Moneta <angelamoneta@...>wrote:

> HI HEATHER!

> WHERE DO ALL THOSE COMPOUNDS COME FROM, I MEAN.. DO YOU BUY THEM AT ANY

> AVERAGE NATURAL FOOD SHOP?

> THANKS,A.

>

> --- On Tue, 6/16/09,

[Guest guest]

There always is the potential that bentonite could absorb something you

don't want absorbed (esp. medications). But it has been studied extensively

for animal husbandry, and it doesn't in general cause the animals to lose

nutrients ... rather the reverse, they absorb nutrients better and grow

faster.

A lot of foods you eat DO prevent some nutrients from being absorbed though.

Sometimes that's even a good thing: your body dumps stuff into the bile,

which gloms onto fiber and gets excreted. I think I read once that something

like 30% of the food energy a person eats never gets used.

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Lindsey <LindseyLove@...> wrote:

> How interesting, I never knew that they shared a peptide, I just recently

> learned that garbanzo beans and dairy have a similar protein chain (which

> probably explains why I love hummus).

>

> I had heard or read that bentonite can actually prevent absorption of

> minerals, do you know anything about this?

>

> I already have bentonite and have yet to use it or try it, I wanted to try

> it with my youngest son (supposedly it is good for teeth issues as well) but

> am concerned about the potential absorption issues considering we already

> have those issues with the inflammed gut. UGH.

>

> Btw, thank you all for listening to me vent. Some days I am so overwhelmed

> with information (and conflicting information) my head is spinning! lol

>

> Lindsey

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

According to the Living Clay company, and the clay list I belong to, clay

does not absorb minerals. Some clay even deposits minerals in the body when

taken internally.

Liquid clay--one ounce dry clay to 8 ounces water, shake for a few minutes,

let sit for an hour or so, then shake again--taken in small doses twice or 3

times a day can really help with gut issues and any organ toxins. The dose

is one ounce for adults and less for children.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I had heard or read that bentonite can actually prevent absorption of

minerals, do you know anything about this?

[Guest guest]

Lindsey,

I follow the Indian Ayurvedic system. Basically they use 6 " tastes " and use the

tastes according to each individual energy or dosha. For instance a

predominately pitta person has fire and water energy or " steam " , which occurs in

rashes, fevers, acute symptoms, etc. The tastes of sour (most anything

fermented), salt and pungent aggravate the pitta or make it hotter. They need

cooling foods like sweet(most fruits and veggies and grains and beans), bitter

and astringent foods.

This is not an allergic reaction to foods per se but could be. Tomatoes,

peppers and nightshades also fall into the sour category. Here is more info.

www.mapi.com/en/pages/pitta.html

GB

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> Hi All,

> I am a newbie here, and new at fermenting (just the last few months) and

> LOVE it. We have major gut/allergy issues over here and this seemed perfect

> to get all the good 'bugs' in our systems. But the big HOWEVER is that

> yeast is one of my biggest allergens, and despite eating yummy fermented

> foods over the last few months, I have gotten worse, not better. And every

> time I removed fermented foods from my diet, I get better. And it isn't

> just detox symptoms, I am sure (I blood tested postive to yeast allergy).

> My youngest (1 yr old) son asked for pickles tonight and his face turned

> bright red everywhere the brine touched his skin, and it didn't go away for

> hours. So obviously HE has the same reaction to yeasts that I do.

> I am really feeling stuck with healing the gut when I can't eat what would

> be most beneficial, the good bugs. So, I am looking for suggestions,

> stories, anything that has helped you or a loved one heal, and how one can

> move past such allergies and eat really good, healthy food.

>

> ANY help, links, thoughts, advice.......gossip (lol) appreciated.

>

> Thank you-

>

> Lindsey

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Depends what you define as a " mineral " . Technically clay gloms onto some

metals and organics ... in general the ones it gloms onto aren't ones you

want (mercury, for instance).

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Gaiacita <gaiacita@...> wrote:

> According to the Living Clay company, and the clay list I belong to, clay

> does not absorb minerals. Some clay even deposits minerals in the body

> when

> taken internally.

>

[Guest guest]

maybe it's just me being vile and cynical but I tend not to take much

notice of the material published by the seller. Stuff published by those

with no commercial interest is more objective I think and more likely to

give you the down side. With testimonials you have no idea whether the

person really exists, or, if they do, whether they are the sort of

person whose ideas you would consider for a second if you met them in

real life.

I've had this conversation before about clay with and we agreed

that the clay won't be able to distinguish toxins (baddies) from good

guys. It will just do it's thing. That may be what we want, it may not.

Some minerals are good guys (calcium) some are bad guys (cadmium, lead,

mercury etc). These ideas are human constructs. The only organ it should

get anywhere near is your gut.

Sally.

Gaiacita wrote:

> According to the Living Clay company, and the clay list I belong to, clay

> does not absorb minerals. Some clay even deposits minerals in the body when

> taken internally.

>

> Liquid clay--one ounce dry clay to 8 ounces water, shake for a few minutes,

> let sit for an hour or so, then shake again--taken in small doses twice or 3

> times a day can really help with gut issues and any organ toxins. The dose

> is one ounce for adults and less for children.

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

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> I had heard or read that bentonite can actually prevent absorption of

> minerals, do you know anything about this?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Right. Seems some of the clays deposit things like calcium (good) and

sodium (not so good if you get too much) while taking out mercury. There's

suppose to be a high mineral content clay from France that supposedly leaves

a lot of the trace minerals in your system, but I don't know much about it.

Samala

-------Original Message-------

Depends what you define as a " mineral " . Technically clay gloms onto some

metals and organics ... in general the ones it gloms onto aren't ones you

want (mercury, for instance).

[Guest guest]

Have you researched Eyton's site? You can trust whatever this guy

says. He healed himself with clay, has studied it for years, and was going

to have a clay healing clinic but that didn't work out. So he doesn't sell

clay--just explains everything about it. He's really good about answering

any questions you may have, too--though he's busy and it may take a few days

His site is

www.eytonsearth.org

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Maybe it's just me being vile and cynical but I tend not to take much

notice of the material published by the seller.

[Guest guest]

thanks, that's a very kind reply to my grumpy message

Sally

Gaiacita wrote:

> Have you researched Eyton's site? You can trust whatever this guy

> says. He healed himself with clay, has studied it for years, and was going

> to have a clay healing clinic but that didn't work out. So he doesn't sell

> clay--just explains everything about it. He's really good about answering

> any questions you may have, too--though he's busy and it may take a few days

>

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> His site is

> www.eytonsearth.org

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> Samala,

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> -------Original Message-------

> Maybe it's just me being vile and cynical but I tend not to take much

> notice of the material published by the seller.

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[Guest guest]

:-)

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Thanks, that's a very kind reply to my grumpy message

Sally

[Guest guest]

Morning Samala,

I went to Eyton's site it was very informative, I do have one question

has anyone had bad effects from the clay not on themselves but your septic

system. I would love to take a bath with the clay but afraid what it will do to

the septic system. I do not want to clog the drainage field.

thanks much

From: Gaiacita

Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:10 AM

nutrition

Subject: Re: Allergy to yeast, now what?

Have you researched Eyton's site? You can trust whatever this guy

says. He healed himself with clay, has studied it for years, and was going

to have a clay healing clinic but that didn't work out. So he doesn't sell

clay--just explains everything about it. He's really good about answering

any questions you may have, too--though he's busy and it may take a few days

His site is

www.eytonsearth.org

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Maybe it's just me being vile and cynical but I tend not to take much

notice of the material published by the seller.

[Guest guest]

Honestly...I rarely eat fermented foods.  Yogurt on the weekend is as close as I

come, and I eat that mostly " seasonally. "

The probiotic I use comes from my local health store, but is sold nationally:

" Ultimate Flora " by Renewlife.  Should have it at your local health food store

if it's large enough.  Comes from Canada.

Where do you get your candida count done so readily?  I know many people who

have a hard time finding doctors who will take it seriously and test for it.

Thanks,

Tim, aka facelessfatloss on youtube

" Right Now. "

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From: Lindsey <LindseyLove@...>

Subject: Re: Allergy to yeast, now what?

nutrition

Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 9:20 PM

Hi Tim,

We are dairy (all animals and versions),soy, wheat/gluten, mushroom, and

junk-free (no artificial anything, no colors, no preservatives, etc). I did

test positive for systemic candida, on the lower end--but that was when I was

healthier, too. My health is again, terrible.

For anyone with Candida, I am still trying to figure out how this is possible,

but I was absolutely my healthiest (body weight, energy, skin, etc) when I was

on a HIGH carb, low fat diet (I was a 'raw' vegan, meaning I ate all

fruits,veggies, nuts and seeds without heating or in their mostly fresh state).

What confuses is me is that I ate a lot fruit, which means a lot of fructose,

and the candida level actually went DOWN. I have read that eating sugars and

fats separately is helpful, because it doesn't make the sugars as available to

the candida as when you eat fats with sugar, and I did this mostly because I ate

my fats towards the end of the day and my sugars mostly during the day.

Tim--how are you able to eat fermented foods and avoid yeast? I certainly do

better with natural yeast then say, brewers or bakers, etc, but even after

enough fermeneted foods my body just breaks down. I am so frustrated.

Anyway, thanks for your post. What Probiotics are you talking about? Do you

order them or purchase locally?

Lindsey

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> From: L P <LindseyLove@ ...>

> Subject: Allergy to yeast, now what?

> nutrition @groups. com

> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 3:53 AM

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> Hi All,

>

> I am a newbie here, and new at fermenting (just the last few months) and

>

> LOVE it. We have major gut/allergy issues over here and this seemed perfect

>

> to get all the good 'bugs' in our systems. But the big HOWEVER is that

>

> yeast is one of my biggest allergens, and despite eating yummy fermented

>

> foods over the last few months, I have gotten worse, not better. And every

>

> time I removed fermented foods from my diet, I get better. And it isn't

>

> just detox symptoms, I am sure (I blood tested postive to yeast allergy).

>

> My youngest (1 yr old) son asked for pickles tonight and his face turned

>

> bright red everywhere the brine touched his skin, and it didn't go away for

>

> hours. So obviously HE has the same reaction to yeasts that I do.

>

> I am really feeling stuck with healing the gut when I can't eat what would

>

> be most beneficial, the good bugs. So, I am looking for suggestions,

>

> stories, anything that has helped you or a loved one heal, and how one can

>

> move past such allergies and eat really good, healthy food.

>

>

>

> ANY help, links, thoughts, advice...... .gossip (lol) appreciated.

>

>

>

> Thank you-

>

>

>

> Lindsey

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lindsey...

Just to chime in, " yes, " some have said that bentonite clay is known to leach

mineral content.  It's still up for debate, as many forms of bentonite are

mineral RICH, so the speculation is confusing in this regard.  I promote it's

use during fasting as a one-time thing, and then sporadically thru-out the year

just for colon cleansing.  There's no question that it's great at pulling gunk

off intestinal walls, esp during a fast.

I use crystal salt to compensate for any mineral issues.  And during a fast, if

one is using salt water enemas, altho you'll get evacuation, you'll also

hopefully derive some benefit from the massive salt intake thru absorption as

well.  Most all of of my mineral content comes from crystal salt, esp trace. 

Good organic or better foods take care of the rest, along with some topical

magnesium for good measure.

Tim aka facelessfatloss on youtube

" Focus on the Moment. "

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From: Lindsey <LindseyLove@...>

Subject: Re: Allergy to yeast, now what?

nutrition

Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 9:28 PM

How interesting, I never knew that they shared a peptide, I just recently

learned that garbanzo beans and dairy have a similar protein chain (which

probably explains why I love hummus).

I had heard or read that bentonite can actually prevent absorption of minerals,

do you know anything about this?

I already have bentonite and have yet to use it or try it, I wanted to try it

with my youngest son (supposedly it is good for teeth issues as well) but am

concerned about the potential absorption issues considering we already have

those issues with the inflammed gut. UGH.

Btw, thank you all for listening to me vent. Some days I am so overwhelmed with

information (and conflicting information) my head is spinning! lol

Lindsey

--- In nutrition @groups. com,

[Guest guest]

I went to the store and bought some bentonite clay, now it did not say calsium

bentonite it just said bentonite clay its mined in wyoming and its white are

they the same.

thanks

From: Moberg

Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:24 AM

nutrition

Subject: Re: Allergy to yeast, now what?

Morning Samala,

I went to Eyton's site it was very informative, I do have one question has

anyone had bad effects from the clay not on themselves but your septic system. I

would love to take a bath with the clay but afraid what it will do to the septic

system. I do not want to clog the drainage field.

thanks much

From: Gaiacita

Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:10 AM

nutrition

Subject: Re: Allergy to yeast, now what?

Have you researched Eyton's site? You can trust whatever this guy

says. He healed himself with clay, has studied it for years, and was going

to have a clay healing clinic but that didn't work out. So he doesn't sell

clay--just explains everything about it. He's really good about answering

any questions you may have, too--though he's busy and it may take a few days

His site is

www.eytonsearth.org

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Maybe it's just me being vile and cynical but I tend not to take much

notice of the material published by the seller.

[Guest guest]

Hi . This has been talked about a lot on the clay list and the

consenses from everyone is no, it does not interfere with septic systems at

all. One person even said it seemed to make her septic work better. But as

far as any clogs or slowing of the septic, no. Not one person on the list

has reported that it hurt the septic tanks or fields or pipes in any way.

This is from doing clay baths--not the way talks about where you are

literally sitting in damp clay, but just putting a half cup to a cup or so

of clay into your bath, plus using clay for masks and washing this down the

sink.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I went to Eyton's site it was very informative, I do have one

question has anyone had bad effects from the clay not on themselves but your

septic system. I would love to take a bath with the clay but afraid what it

will do to the septic system. I do not want to clog the drainage field.

[Guest guest]

LENTIL REJUVELAC:

3/4 CUP LENTILS1 LTR. (GOOD QUALITY) WATER1/2 LEEMON INTO JUICE

*sprout the lentils: - first leave to hidrate for 8 hours. they´ll swell to

1cup)                           - wash and leave in a stainless or plastic

strainer for 3 days (rinse 3 to 4                               times a day to

prevent unwanted micoorganisms from developing)

*pour srouts and water into a glass container and leave to ferment for 24 to 48

hours. then strain and keep the liquid: REJUVELAC. most recipes tell you to

throw away the lentils, but i rarely do. just stir fry them for some minutes and

eat them, though they are´nt as nutricious as normal sprouts.

also, bare in mind the wheat grass.

regards, a. 

From: Lindsey <LindseyLove@...>

Subject: Re: Allergy to yeast, now what?

nutrition

Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 6:30 PM

Hi ,

Do you have a recipe for Lentil Rejuvelac? I can't do kombucha, though I love

it, it tears my skin up (and who knows what internally).

Thank you!!

Lindsey

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[Guest guest]

Hard to say. If you have the company name you could call and ask them which

type it is. I don't think you can tell just by the color.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I went to the store and bought some bentonite clay, now it did not say calsium

bentonite it just said bentonite clay its mined in wyoming and its white are

they the same.