kefir beer and water kefir

[Guest guest]

Can anyone tell me if water kefir can be successful for making kefir beer?

Thanks,

Kathy

[Guest guest]

> Can anyone tell me if water kefir can be successful for making kefir

> beer?

>

> Thanks,

> Kathy

I have been using water grains lately for kefir beer a la Heidi's

recipe, and there seems to be no difference in the final product. Also,

I think the grains continue on, whereas milk grains fizzle out after a

while.

Deanna

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I would be interested in getting a water kefir beer recipee if you would post

one. how is it different from plain water kefir? thanks.billie

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Hi Billie,

There is a PDF file in the files section of this group that Heidi did a

wonderful job on.

Beau

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> would post one. how is it different from plain water kefir? thanks.billie

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Deanna

When using water kefir to make the kefir beer, how much water kefir grains do

you use?

Thanks

Kathy

[Guest guest]

> When using water kefir to make the kefir beer, how much water kefir

> grains do you use?

> Thanks

> Kathy

Well, I have about 1/2 cup of them and they make a nice sodalike kefir

beer in one day. It will get hoochy not long after that. So honestly,

I have too many - a few tablespoons'll do ya.

Deanna

[Guest guest]

OK, I'm finally hooked. How do you make Kefir Beer?

I can't get to the MN links for some reason so hope you have a site of

your own.

Thanks,

On Sep 18, 2006, at 5:52 AM, Deanna wrote:

>> When using water kefir to make the kefir beer, how much water kefir

>> grains do you use?

>> Thanks

>> Kathy

>

> Well, I have about 1/2 cup of them and they make a nice sodalike kefir

> beer in one day. It will get hoochy not long after that. So honestly,

> I have too many - a few tablespoons'll do ya.

>

> Deanna

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> OK, I'm finally hooked. How do you make Kefir Beer?

> I can't get to the MN links for some reason so hope you have a site of

> your own.

Yes, you can access Heidi's recipes and more on my local WAPF chapter

website:

http://www.salvonix.com/WAP/articles.htm - Kefir Beer happens to be first

Hope you can see the files there.

Deanna

[Guest guest]

Deanna,

a half cup of water kefir grains... ? to how much water are you talking?? a

half gallon jar??

thanks,

billie

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Deanna and others

Monday I made Heidi's kefir beer recipe (porter variation) (gal of water) with 2

Tbs of active water kefir grains. After 24 hrs there was no bubbling activity

with " bottle gas plug thingy " , so I added 1 Tbs of water kefir grain more. That

was 12 hrs ago and still no activity. Any ideas as to what is happening or IS

NOT happening?

Thank you!

Kathy

[Guest guest]

> a half cup of water kefir grains... ? to how much water are you

> talking?? a half gallon jar??

Yes exactly. My apologies for being so vague about that. I use 1/2

gallon of juice with 1/2 cup kefir grains.

Deanna

[Guest guest]

>> Deanna and others

>> Monday I made Heidi's kefir beer recipe (porter variation) (gal of

water) with 2 Tbs of active water kefir grains. After 24 hrs there was

no bubbling activity with " bottle gas plug thingy " , so I added 1 Tbs of

water kefir grain more. That was 12 hrs ago and still no activity. Any

ideas as to what is happening or IS NOT happening?

>> Thank you!

>> Kathy

The kefir grains don't produce much bubbling, esp. on the first batch.

In that way they work a lot like lambic ales, which also are slow

getting going.

If you save the dregs, you'll get quicker action on subsequent batches.

I think it's because the bacteria in the kefir start working

faster than the yeast, and the yeast are what causes the most

bubbling. But I've never made a batch of kefir beer that bubbles

like a yeast beer does. They've never got bad though: and they

taste good!

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Heidi

Thanks...5th day and I see bubbles forming at the top of the water line of

mixture.

Are you thinking that since this is my first batch that few bubbles will appear

at all? If so, then with the water kefir grain beer how will I detect that it is

done?

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Kathy Stockdale wrote:

>

> Heidi

>

> Thanks...5th day and I see bubbles forming at the top of the water

line of mixture.

>

> Are you thinking that since this is my first batch that few bubbles

will appear at all? If so, then with the water kefir grain beer how will

I detect that it is done?

>

> Kathy

What I do is, I smell it. Or taste it. It's done when you say it is done.

Actually I've drunk it at all stages. When it's not very fermented, it's

just a nice sweet drink. Later it gets not-sweet (which is when I like

it the best), and later it gets sour-ish (but still good).

If it isn't " done " but I'm thirsty, I mix it with fizz water, because

I don't like sweet drinks much.

I've also made it in a " sun tea " jar, with a spigot at the bottom.

You can only get away with this if you filter it before putting

it in (so hops bits don't clog the spigot). But then you

just keep adding juice or molasses or whatever to the top,

and pour from the bottom. Like, the never-ending keg ...

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Now you're gonna hate me for not following closely. I make Kefir but

guess I need to get Water Kefir grains. Where do I get those? Or are

regular kefir grains ok?

Do I need to rinse them?

On Sep 21, 2006, at 5:33 AM, Deanna wrote:

>> a half cup of water kefir grains... ? to how much water are you

>> talking?? a half gallon jar??

>

> Yes exactly. My apologies for being so vague about that. I use 1/2

> gallon of juice with 1/2 cup kefir grains.

>

> Deanna

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[Guest guest]

> Now you're gonna hate me for not following closely. I make Kefir but

> guess I need to get Water Kefir grains. Where do I get those? Or are

> regular kefir grains ok?

Don't sweat it. Regular are fine to use, but they fizzle out after

several months, as I guess they are really designed for milk. I am

pretty dairy free, so trying to keep milk grains going so that I can use

some of them as needed for juice just was not a good plan for me. Water

crystals work fine and give exactly the same results for me as the milk

grains, without the ferments becoming super yeasty as the grains

morphed. But if you make milk kefir, then use the extra milk grains as

you choose.

>

> Do I need to rinse them?

Well, if your milk grains are soaked with milk, you may want to rinse

them initially before setting them in juice. And heck, I like Heidi's

endless keg idea that she mentioned recently - no rinsing required. I

could see us having endless keg parties if we ever got together as a

group, lol.

HTH,

Deanna

[Guest guest]

Let the party begin!

I'm starting my keg this week.

On Sep 24, 2006, at 8:39 AM, Deanna wrote:

> I

> could see us having endless keg parties if we ever got together as a

> group, lol.

>

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