wheatgrass juice and cancer

[Guest guest]

Hi

I walked into my local health food restraunt this morning and ordered

two shots of organic wheat grass juice. I was talking to the owner and

he said have you heard about this american..I said no ..tell me..

He said this guy came and told him he had cancer and the owner

suggested he drinks wheatgrass juice. So he started taking 2 shots of

organic wheat grass juice 3 times a day at the restraunt. A year passed

by ( infact just now) and the guy told the restraunt owner he is cured

of cancer...aparently it was a very emotional experience for both the

guy and the restraunt owner...isnt that really great...The Power of

Real Green Food...it takes us years of unhealthy nutrition to get

cancer and one year to get cured by the magic of Wheat Grass Juice...

[Guest guest]

I think this is very much a case of " Your Mileage May Vary " . I think, in

many people, it's gonna take more than 2 tots of wheatgrass juice a day...

I'm trying to grow my own wheatgrass now. I'm going to have some fresh, and

ferment some with EM, or maybe kefir

On 4/13/06, kefir_king <kefir_king@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

> I walked into my local health food restraunt this morning and ordered

> two shots of organic wheat grass juice. I was talking to the owner and

> he said have you heard about this american..I said no ..tell me..

> He said this guy came and told him he had cancer and the owner

> suggested he drinks wheatgrass juice. So he started taking 2 shots of

> organic wheat grass juice 3 times a day at the restraunt. A year passed

> by ( infact just now) and the guy told the restraunt owner he is cured

> of cancer...aparently it was a very emotional experience for both the

> guy and the restraunt owner...isnt that really great...The Power of

> Real Green Food...it takes us years of unhealthy nutrition to get

> cancer and one year to get cured by the magic of Wheat Grass Juice...

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

2 tots , 3 times a day :-)

> >

> > Hi

> > I walked into my local health food restraunt this morning and

ordered

> > two shots of organic wheat grass juice. I was talking to the

owner and

> > he said have you heard about this american..I said no ..tell me..

> > He said this guy came and told him he had cancer and the owner

> > suggested he drinks wheatgrass juice. So he started taking 2

shots of

> > organic wheat grass juice 3 times a day at the restraunt. A year

passed

> > by ( infact just now) and the guy told the restraunt owner he is

cured

> > of cancer...aparently it was a very emotional experience for both

the

> > guy and the restraunt owner...isnt that really great...The Power

of

> > Real Green Food...it takes us years of unhealthy nutrition to get

> > cancer and one year to get cured by the magic of Wheat Grass

Juice...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

And then there are those of us who are genetically programmed to treat the

gliadin protein in wheat as a very sticky invader and have the T cells kill

any cell it is stuck to - autoimmune disease. There is no such thing as a

cureall.

Connie

Re: wheatgrass juice and cancer

I think this is very much a case of " Your Mileage May Vary " . I think, in

many people, it's gonna take more than 2 tots of wheatgrass juice a day...

I'm trying to grow my own wheatgrass now. I'm going to have some fresh, and

ferment some with EM, or maybe kefir

On 4/13/06, kefir_king <kefir_king@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

> I walked into my local health food restraunt this morning and ordered

> two shots of organic wheat grass juice. I was talking to the owner and

> he said have you heard about this american..I said no ..tell me..

> He said this guy came and told him he had cancer and the owner

> suggested he drinks wheatgrass juice. So he started taking 2 shots of

> organic wheat grass juice 3 times a day at the restraunt. A year passed

> by ( infact just now) and the guy told the restraunt owner he is cured

> of cancer...aparently it was a very emotional experience for both the

> guy and the restraunt owner...isnt that really great...The Power of

> Real Green Food...it takes us years of unhealthy nutrition to get

> cancer and one year to get cured by the magic of Wheat Grass Juice...

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think wheat grass juice is very different from wheat...even those

who are wheat intolerant can handle sprouted wheat..but wheat grass

is so rich in chlorophyl, enzymes ..it is an amazing green food..and

it is very easily absorbed..yes you are right there is a no

curall..but why are you already discounting something which maybe so

good...

> >

> > Hi

> > I walked into my local health food restraunt this morning and

ordered

> > two shots of organic wheat grass juice. I was talking to the

owner and

> > he said have you heard about this american..I said no ..tell me..

> > He said this guy came and told him he had cancer and the owner

> > suggested he drinks wheatgrass juice. So he started taking 2

shots of

> > organic wheat grass juice 3 times a day at the restraunt. A year

passed

> > by ( infact just now) and the guy told the restraunt owner he is

cured

> > of cancer...aparently it was a very emotional experience for both

the

> > guy and the restraunt owner...isnt that really great...The Power

of

> > Real Green Food...it takes us years of unhealthy nutrition to get

> > cancer and one year to get cured by the magic of Wheat Grass

Juice...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I believe wheatgrass is good, but only as a support. I tried it before

(although, not 6-tots a day for a year!) and didn't really get any

noticeable benefit... that said, it is good stuff for sure. Barley grass

also.

On 4/13/06, kefir_king <kefir_king@...> wrote:

>

> I think wheat grass juice is very different from wheat...even those

> who are wheat intolerant can handle sprouted wheat..but wheat grass

> is so rich in chlorophyl, enzymes ..it is an amazing green food..and

> it is very easily absorbed..yes you are right there is a no

> curall..but why are you already discounting something which maybe so

> good...

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi

> > > I walked into my local health food restraunt this morning and

> ordered

> > > two shots of organic wheat grass juice. I was talking to the

> owner and

> > > he said have you heard about this american..I said no ..tell me..

> > > He said this guy came and told him he had cancer and the owner

> > > suggested he drinks wheatgrass juice. So he started taking 2

> shots of

> > > organic wheat grass juice 3 times a day at the restraunt. A year

> passed

> > > by ( infact just now) and the guy told the restraunt owner he is

> cured

> > > of cancer...aparently it was a very emotional experience for both

> the

> > > guy and the restraunt owner...isnt that really great...The Power

> of

> > > Real Green Food...it takes us years of unhealthy nutrition to get

> > > cancer and one year to get cured by the magic of Wheat Grass

> Juice...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I am intrigued as to how this man managed to cure himself out of

liver cancer....I will try and trace him down and see if he is

willing to write his own story...

My understanding is that chlorophyl is very important for blood

synthesis. There is a japanese researcher who claims that chlorophyl

can be easily used to synthesise blood and is a major thing for iron

absorption in the blood...i think it is the chlorophyl in the

wheatgrass which is so potent...

> > > >

> > > > Hi

> > > > I walked into my local health food restraunt this morning and

> > ordered

> > > > two shots of organic wheat grass juice. I was talking to the

> > owner and

> > > > he said have you heard about this american..I said no ..tell

me..

> > > > He said this guy came and told him he had cancer and the owner

> > > > suggested he drinks wheatgrass juice. So he started taking 2

> > shots of

> > > > organic wheat grass juice 3 times a day at the restraunt. A

year

> > passed

> > > > by ( infact just now) and the guy told the restraunt owner he

is

> > cured

> > > > of cancer...aparently it was a very emotional experience for

both

> > the

> > > > guy and the restraunt owner...isnt that really great...The

Power

> > of

> > > > Real Green Food...it takes us years of unhealthy nutrition to

get

> > > > cancer and one year to get cured by the magic of Wheat Grass

> > Juice...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Check out info on the web on Dr. Kelley who cured his own pancreatic cancer.

Interesting story. Not that I'm advising anyone to do what he did...

You can download his book " One Answer for Cancer " or something like that.

Just google Dr. Kelley cancer (or is it ? can't recall)

On 4/13/06, kefir_king <kefir_king@...> wrote:

>

> I am intrigued as to how this man managed to cure himself out of

> liver cancer....I will try and trace him down and see if he is

> willing to write his own story...

> My understanding is that chlorophyl is very important for blood

> synthesis. There is a japanese researcher who claims that chlorophyl

> can be easily used to synthesise blood and is a major thing for iron

> absorption in the blood...i think it is the chlorophyl in the

> wheatgrass which is so potent...

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi

> > > > > I walked into my local health food restraunt this morning and

> > > ordered

> > > > > two shots of organic wheat grass juice. I was talking to the

> > > owner and

> > > > > he said have you heard about this american..I said no ..tell

> me..

> > > > > He said this guy came and told him he had cancer and the owner

> > > > > suggested he drinks wheatgrass juice. So he started taking 2

> > > shots of

> > > > > organic wheat grass juice 3 times a day at the restraunt. A

> year

> > > passed

> > > > > by ( infact just now) and the guy told the restraunt owner he

> is

> > > cured

> > > > > of cancer...aparently it was a very emotional experience for

> both

> > > the

> > > > > guy and the restraunt owner...isnt that really great...The

> Power

> > > of

> > > > > Real Green Food...it takes us years of unhealthy nutrition to

> get

> > > > > cancer and one year to get cured by the magic of Wheat Grass

> > > Juice...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

kefir_king wrote:

>l..but why are you already discounting something which maybe so

>good...

>

>

>

>

It's called " cross-contamination, " dahlink.

Hey, I know it's just me, but those gut-wrenching, hair-raising

screamfests that happen when there is a single molecule of gluten that

slips into the mix.....well.....that just kinda makes me a tad reluctant

to dive right in, yk?

Admittedly, I'm uber-conservative, but the consenquences are sufficient.

--s, for whom cheating is never a temptation....

[Guest guest]

I tend to think chlorophyll is good too. I'm not sure why

everyone gloms onto *wheat* grass though. Grasses

are allergens for a lot of people in general (some folks

get sneezy just mowing the lawn). Chlorophyll is in

any green thing, and any sprout has good stuff in it.

My green of choice is pounded slightly-fermented

greens. Usually turnip greens. They DO make me

feel good!

Less work than sprouting and juicing too!

-- Heidi

kefir_king wrote:

> I am intrigued as to how this man managed to cure himself out of

> liver cancer....I will try and trace him down and see if he is

> willing to write his own story...

> My understanding is that chlorophyl is very important for blood

> synthesis. There is a japanese researcher who claims that chlorophyl

> can be easily used to synthesise blood and is a major thing for iron

> absorption in the blood...i think it is the chlorophyl in the

> wheatgrass which is so potent...

[Guest guest]

Well, since we're on the topic of cancer, and if you're curious,

google cimetidine+cancer or cimetidine+immune.

Cimetidine is the generic form of the over-the-counter

heartburn reliever called Tagamet.

And if you're still curious, google cimetidine+virus+shingles+herpes.

Also, the body can have a hard time recognizing cancer

as a foreign invader to kill it due to the thickness of the

cancer cell membrane. Taking protein digesting enzymes

can thin the outer cell membrane of the cancer enough

so that the white blood cells can register it as something

that needs killing.

Darrell

[Guest guest]

>I tend to think chlorophyll is good too. I'm not sure why

>everyone gloms onto *wheat* grass though.

>

>

" Gloms onto wheat, " hee hee hee. For us gluten intolerant folk, the

wheat gloms onto us. And many people won't give up glomming onto wheat

even when there is a clear and present danger to their health through

the glomming of the wheat onto the gi tract. Addiction is a terrible thing.

And yes, grasses are a problem for allergies and digestion. I figure if

you can't eat wheat grass au naturelle, why drink the juice of it?

>My green of choice is pounded slightly-fermented

>greens. Usually turnip greens. They DO make me

>feel good!

>

My choice is dandelion greens in salad. Although seaweed is always nice

too, especially in winter months. I have been adding more and more

wakame and hijiki in my kimchi these days. And really, if chlorophyll

is the goal, why not take chlorella? I have read that it has more

chlorophyll than any other plant on the planet.

Deanna, with sporadic cable service until the line gets replaced :-(

[Guest guest]

Deanna Wagner wrote:

>

> >I tend to think chlorophyll is good too. I'm not sure why

> >everyone gloms onto *wheat* grass though.

> >

> >

> " Gloms onto wheat, " hee hee hee. For us gluten intolerant folk, the

> wheat gloms onto us. And many people won't give up glomming onto wheat

> even when there is a clear and present danger to their health through

> the glomming of the wheat onto the gi tract. Addiction is a terrible

> thing.

>

> And yes, grasses are a problem for allergies and digestion. I figure if

> you can't eat wheat grass au naturelle, why drink the juice of it?

That's kind of my feeling. Grass has never been a staple food for

humans, to say the least! I think dogs eat it when they want

to throw up. I DO think our ancestors ate a lot of leaves

of various kinds ... if you look in the " wild foods " cookbooks

a huge percent of the wild foods you can eat are

green leaves.

" Wheat " in the '70s had this big association with " health "

though. Wheat germ oil in shampoo, wheat germ on

your salads, whole wheat bread. Remember those days?

I'm guessing yeah, it's the addiction talking: if it makes

you feel good, it must be good for you. Interestingly

the folks who first brought cigarettes and opium to

the West felt similarly. Both of them DO

have good medical uses; nicotine does have healing

properties, and opium is a fine narcotic: I don't know

what the surgery folks would do without morphine.

But I don't think the original researchers got that far.

Just that smoking opium felt good so it must be healing.

Similar claims were/are made for coke, absinthe,

ethanol and every other feel-good drug.

Of course, healthy food DOES make you feel

good too, which is why the poor brain gets so confused.

>

> My choice is dandelion greens in salad. Although seaweed is always nice

> too, especially in winter months. I have been adding more and more

> wakame and hijiki in my kimchi these days. And really, if chlorophyll

> is the goal, why not take chlorella? I have read that it has more

> chlorophyll than any other plant on the planet.

I need to get into seaweed more. I love it, but it was making my dh

itch at one point. THAT seems better now, maybe I can up my

iodine intake!

>

>

> Deanna, with sporadic cable service until the line gets replaced :-(

Ouch. Technology bites.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Concerning the most potent forms of chlorophyll, I hear that the

orange and red pigments are the best, with the green and yellow

coming up very close behind. It important to get enough of

each of them I'm sure. The best field veggies as far as green

and yellow pigments are probably spinach, turnip greens, and

broccoli. I think broccoli has lots of yellow and green. And then

corn has lots of yellow lutein although that's probably not a chlorophyll

technically. Orange and red peppers (even bellpeppers) are

excellent sources of the red and orange pigments. The outer

layer of any red bean contains the same red pigment as the

red pepper.

And then there's fruits.... full of all kinds of pigments.

Darrell

[Guest guest]

Bruce Guilmette PhD wrote:

>

> Round numbers about what I came up with. The thing not taken into account

> with that is what the body has done to wall the toxins off, which it does.

> The mucus membrane is not an accumulation either, but rather a rapidly

> formed mass of cells that continually sloughs off (sheds itself). If you

> are eating correctly and have proper bowel movements, the amount of

> built-up

> mass is considerably less, just as is the toxic level buildup

> throughout the

> body.

Also it's good to keep in mind that a lot of people do in fact

have major IgA food allergies, in which case the gut is protecting

itself against both what it considers an invader (the antigen)

and it's own antibodies (which attack the gut lining). Kinda like

some folks get a drippy nose when they are around cats.

Getting rid of the drippy nose by doing a Neti pot is helpful,

but doesn't get rid of the cat allergy.

Also folks with food allergies typically have pretty

serious dysbiosis, so the mucous protects against the

nastier bacterial toxins.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Yip, I have the allergies/dysbiosis/permeable membrance thing. Sucks big

time.

By the way, Bruce, I noticed you have a Rife machine! I want to build one. I

don't suppose you know how? Do they actually work? I've always been a bit

skeptical...

On 4/14/06, Heidi <heidis@...> wrote:

>

> Bruce Guilmette PhD wrote:

> >

> > Round numbers about what I came up with. The thing not taken into

> account

> > with that is what the body has done to wall the toxins off, which it

> does.

> > The mucus membrane is not an accumulation either, but rather a rapidly

> > formed mass of cells that continually sloughs off (sheds itself). If

> you

> > are eating correctly and have proper bowel movements, the amount of

> > built-up

> > mass is considerably less, just as is the toxic level buildup

> > throughout the

> > body.

> Also it's good to keep in mind that a lot of people do in fact

> have major IgA food allergies, in which case the gut is protecting

> itself against both what it considers an invader (the antigen)

> and it's own antibodies (which attack the gut lining). Kinda like

> some folks get a drippy nose when they are around cats.

>

> Getting rid of the drippy nose by doing a Neti pot is helpful,

> but doesn't get rid of the cat allergy.

>

> Also folks with food allergies typically have pretty

> serious dysbiosis, so the mucous protects against the

> nastier bacterial toxins.

>

> -- Heidi

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Beta Glucans seems promising too. There's so much out there, and

it's so

> expensive. Who has the money and time?

No need to pay a lot for beta glucans (a soluble fiber) as they

are very easy to get large amounts via diet. For example, barley,

oats, mushrooms, and yeast (S. Cerevisae).

-

[Guest guest]

RE: Re: wheatgrass juice and cancer

> What do you think of Gerson Therapy?. I know two woman who have been on

> it. They both recovered from cancer. One returned to her old ways of

> eating , drinking and smoking...and the cancer returned and she died. The

> other, her friend is doing fine...she is still on Gerson...They drink lots

> of carrot juice and take potassium suplements...

Gerson therapy has had some failures but they have a verifiable tack record

of successes. I once spoke with Charlotte Gerson and she was the nicest

person. I asked about a friend who had MS and she said heal the liver. Same

cure as for cancer.

BTW Fermented foods are generally good for the liver. That's a sweeping

statement because many are liver neutral. Kraut juice is very good for

liver.

Z

[Guest guest]

> what I did. I looked at Gerson and pulled a number of things from it. I

> looked at overall about a dozen different common protocols and modified

> according to my own desires. Gerson is a good thing, but I could not get

> excited or interested in coffee enemas, to say the least.

Those coffee enemas will clean out liver, gall bladder and gallstones like

you wouldn't believe. But they will deplete minerals such as calcium so one

must be careful. Your Breuss fast starves the cancer but also heals the

liver by giving it a huge rest and beet juice

IOW depleted cancer patients should not do coffee enemas. You don't sound

depleted to me and I don't know if you still have cancer

Z

RE: Re: wheatgrass juice and cancer

> The heart of my argument about keeping cancer at bay is exactly as you

> have

> described with the 2 people on Gerson.

>

>

>

> When I was originally diagnosed with stage 4 bilateral renal cell

> carcinoma,

> I knew absolutely nothing about anything. I had 25 years as a research

> scientist/engineer background, so I knew how to dig and that is precisely

> what I did. I looked at Gerson and pulled a number of things from it. I

> looked at overall about a dozen different common protocols and modified

> according to my own desires. Gerson is a good thing, but I could not get

> excited or interested in coffee enemas, to say the least. Budwig is good,

> and I have come to appreciate it the more I look at it. Kelley is good

> also. There are quite a number of things that have a proven track record.

> The key is whether or not you will follow the protocol and then maintain a

> healthy lifestyle after the crisis is dealt with. The real issue is the

> second half of that. Just about anyone can convince themselves that this

> is

> a good thing short term, but where the real problem comes is once the

> crisis

> passes and you are " free " to do what you did before. WRONG!

[Guest guest]

Juice from organically grown celery from a local farm where the celery is

real green is just as powerful as wheat grass juice. The pale California

organic celery in your local natural foods store is not as good. I base this

on personal experience. I've used all three

Liver cancer and pancreatic cancer are the hardest to cure, usually fatal.

Cancers deep inside are more lethal than peripheral ones such as skin and

blood (Hodgkin's)

Z

Re: wheatgrass juice and cancer

>

> I tend to think chlorophyll is good too. I'm not sure why

> everyone gloms onto *wheat* grass though. Grasses

> are allergens for a lot of people in general (some folks

> get sneezy just mowing the lawn). Chlorophyll is in

> any green thing, and any sprout has good stuff in it.

>

> My green of choice is pounded slightly-fermented

> greens. Usually turnip greens. They DO make me

> feel good!

>

> Less work than sprouting and juicing too!

>

> -- Heidi

>

[Guest guest]

I am an electro-mechanical engineer by advanced degree and would not build

one myself. They do really work and work well, but virtually all home built

units are worthless for lack of proper tuning and attention to detail. I

strongly considered building one, but the more I researched, the less

comfortable I was with the idea so ended up purchasing one. Glad I did. I

figured it would take me literally months to do the proper tuning and

testing to be sure of what I got. I was not in a position to do that as I

was originally given a few months to live. By my calculation, I would have

been dead about 2 months before I would be sure it was working properly.

If you want to build one, the best manual out there on the subject is by

Barr in Arizona. It is detailed, comprehensive and is what RLT

equipment is based upon. I would get in contact with him and get his

manual. It will be your best shot at a home built.

RLT is the only company I know of anywhere in the world that has a RIFE

machine that has been blessed by a government to do anything. They have

literally thousands of hours of hard documentation as to the use of them for

pain control. They have sufficient evidence to convince me that they also

work for quite a number of other things as well.

Bruce Guilmette, PhD

Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

<http://survivecancerfoundation.org> http://survivecancerfoundation.org

Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day

has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV)

_____

From: nutrition

[mailto:nutrition ] On Behalf Of Dirk Coetsee

Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 1:38 PM

nutrition

Subject: Re: wheatgrass juice and cancer

Yip, I have the allergies/dysbiosis/permeable membrance thing. Sucks big

time.

By the way, Bruce, I noticed you have a Rife machine! I want to build one. I

don't suppose you know how? Do they actually work? I've always been a bit

skeptical...

On 4/14/06, Heidi <heidis@...> wrote:

>

> Bruce Guilmette PhD wrote:

> >

> > Round numbers about what I came up with. The thing not taken into

> account

> > with that is what the body has done to wall the toxins off, which it

> does.

> > The mucus membrane is not an accumulation either, but rather a rapidly

> > formed mass of cells that continually sloughs off (sheds itself). If

> you

> > are eating correctly and have proper bowel movements, the amount of

> > built-up

> > mass is considerably less, just as is the toxic level buildup

> > throughout the

> > body.

> Also it's good to keep in mind that a lot of people do in fact

> have major IgA food allergies, in which case the gut is protecting

> itself against both what it considers an invader (the antigen)

> and it's own antibodies (which attack the gut lining). Kinda like

> some folks get a drippy nose when they are around cats.

>

> Getting rid of the drippy nose by doing a Neti pot is helpful,

> but doesn't get rid of the cat allergy.

>

> Also folks with food allergies typically have pretty

> serious dysbiosis, so the mucous protects against the

> nastier bacterial toxins.

>

> -- Heidi

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bruce. No way! I'm also an engineer! Electronic.

Trouble is, I REALLY don't have the $2k+ or more to fork out on a Rife

machine. It's simply not an option. I think I'll focus on nutrition etc. for

now. I'm impressed they actually work. They always sounded interesting, but

you never know how much on the 'net is just misinformation. I guess I should

buy one though. Analog electronics can be a blackmagic business and it

sounds like these things are finnicky.

Tell me, does anybody on this list grow their own wheatgrass? I'm going to

try...

On the subject of livers, I'm a big believer in the liver-gallbladder flush.

I've tried it before. It didn't help me any, but it REALLY helped a friend

of mine big time. I think I just need to do it more. I have some Gold Coin

Grass, but for some reason, lately, I'm afraid to take the GCG and do the

liver flush. Weird. Maybe because of all the abdominal pains and stuff I've

been having. Anyway, I'm trying to listen to my body/intuition more. If it

says no Gold Coin Grass and no liver flush, so be it for now... but I do

think both are beneficial.

On 4/14/06, Bruce Guilmette PhD <bruce@...> wrote:

>

> I am an electro-mechanical engineer by advanced degree and would not

> build

> one myself. They do really work and work well, but virtually all home

> built

> units are worthless for lack of proper tuning and attention to detail. I

> strongly considered building one, but the more I researched, the less

> comfortable I was with the idea so ended up purchasing one. Glad I did.

> I

> figured it would take me literally months to do the proper tuning and

> testing to be sure of what I got. I was not in a position to do that as I

> was originally given a few months to live. By my calculation, I would

> have

> been dead about 2 months before I would be sure it was working properly.

>

>

>

> If you want to build one, the best manual out there on the subject is by

> Barr in Arizona. It is detailed, comprehensive and is what RLT

> equipment is based upon. I would get in contact with him and get his

> manual. It will be your best shot at a home built.

>

>

>

> RLT is the only company I know of anywhere in the world that has a RIFE

> machine that has been blessed by a government to do anything. They have

> literally thousands of hours of hard documentation as to the use of them

> for

> pain control. They have sufficient evidence to convince me that they also

> work for quite a number of other things as well.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Bruce Guilmette, PhD

>

> Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

>

> <http://survivecancerfoundation.org> http://survivecancerfoundation.org

>

>

>

> Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each

> day

> has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV)

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: nutrition

> [mailto:nutrition ] On Behalf Of Dirk Coetsee

> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 1:38 PM

>

> nutrition

> Subject: Re: wheatgrass juice and cancer

>

>

>

> Yip, I have the allergies/dysbiosis/permeable membrance thing. Sucks big

> time.

>

> By the way, Bruce, I noticed you have a Rife machine! I want to build one.

> I

> don't suppose you know how? Do they actually work? I've always been a bit

> skeptical...

>

> On 4/14/06, Heidi <heidis@...> wrote:

> >

> > Bruce Guilmette PhD wrote:

> > >

> > > Round numbers about what I came up with. The thing not taken into

> > account

> > > with that is what the body has done to wall the toxins off, which it

> > does.

> > > The mucus membrane is not an accumulation either, but rather a rapidly

> > > formed mass of cells that continually sloughs off (sheds itself). If

> > you

> > > are eating correctly and have proper bowel movements, the amount of

> > > built-up

> > > mass is considerably less, just as is the toxic level buildup

> > > throughout the

> > > body.

> > Also it's good to keep in mind that a lot of people do in fact

> > have major IgA food allergies, in which case the gut is protecting

> > itself against both what it considers an invader (the antigen)

> > and it's own antibodies (which attack the gut lining). Kinda like

> > some folks get a drippy nose when they are around cats.

> >

> > Getting rid of the drippy nose by doing a Neti pot is helpful,

> > but doesn't get rid of the cat allergy.

> >

> > Also folks with food allergies typically have pretty

> > serious dysbiosis, so the mucous protects against the

> > nastier bacterial toxins.

> >

> > -- Heidi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Good going!! You have a powerful motivator when the Doc tells you both

kidneys must be removed to " cure " you.

Z

RE: Re: wheatgrass juice and cancer

>I stopped mine cold in 7 months. When originally diagnosed, I was given

> roughly 5 months to live without both kidneys being cut out and put on

> dialysis. It took about 3 months to turn the corner and the rest was

> continued until the next CT showed stability with necrotic tumor masses

> and

> the metastasis to lymph and liver no longer present. I still do beet

> juice

> just to help keep the ph levels up and with severely damaged kidneys, I

> need

> all the help I can get. But the cancer is history, at least for the time

> being and I see no reason to worry about it at this point. Diet should be

> sufficient to keep it in check along with the Naltrexone and melatonin.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

> Bruce Guilmette, PhD

>

> Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

>

> <http://survivecancerfoundation.org> http://survivecancerfoundation.org

>

>

>

> Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each

> day

> has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Message: 5319 From: Received: Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:09 PM

Subject: Re: wheatgrass juice and cancer

>

>

>>

>> Beta Glucans seems promising too. There's so much out there, and

>>it's so

>> expensive. Who has the money and time?

>No need to pay a lot for beta glucans (a soluble fiber) as they

>are very easy to get large amounts via diet. For example, barley,

>oats, mushrooms, and yeast (S. Cerevisae).

>

>-

, during some of my reading, I found some info on beta glucan.

It appears that it can have lasting effects on the white cells

for up to 12 days. So, IF that's true, one might not have to

take it daily. One nice thing is that the price of beta glucan

has come way down and milligrams has gone way up.

Darrell

[Guest guest]

Wow. All these tales are interesting... When I was first very sick a year

and a half ago, my naturopathic doctor suggested a wheat grass protocol. I

even did the wheat grass retention enemas (!) well that set set off a whole

terrible reaction that ended up with my losing about 20 pounds in a month.

And those were pounds I didn't want to lose.. so as for how much " wheat " is

in wheat grass, all I can say is there is SOMEthing that causes some of us

problems.

In fact, now that I think of it, maybe that's just the thing: the wheat and

maybe the other ultra concentrated stuff is just so vile to the body that it

instantly goes into a kind of get-rid-of-it mode (?) and maybe, just maybe a

bunch of other stuff gets carried out too?

Duh. Don't know and haven't been following any of the lists lately.. I just

happened to see this in the much beloved MN group.

~Robin