to R

[Guest guest]

We have a dairy. We had a manufacturing company but sold it and bought the

dairy. They already had a guy running it so we are not in the mainstream, thank

goodness. We bought it because we thought it was something that would always

make a good living. After all, look at all the milk products out there. Anyway

without getting on my soapbox I will just say that things are not looking good

at this point. But it looks like we are not the only ones struggling so we are

just turning it over to God and he will lead us.

I will keep you in my prayers. What kind of business do you have?

Maybe we ought to get a couple of side cars for your two babies and travel

around on our cycles doing ood jobs here and there!! LOL! At least we would be

having fun!!!

Have a good one and breathe!!! It will help everything look better!!!

Love,

Re: Prayer request C

Hi Liz,

I'm so sorry it took so long to get back to you. I have been pretty busy

around here now that mom is not driving and seems I don't have much time for the

computer!! I miss being here.

I'm glad you're doing ok with in school and having time to spend

with Steve although I know you and he would both prefer he get the job he wants.

My heart broke when I read your letter and I pray our good Lord will intervene

with a better job for Steve and another little one for you to babysit. I wish I

was there to help you. I feel so helpless. There are so many people out of

work right now and it is getting pretty scary. We are in real grave danger of

losing our business. If that happens we will have to sell our home and move

elsewhere and start over. That is not always easy to do when you are our age

but I told Ron the other night that no matter what happens we are together and

somehow we will make it through.

Well now on a much better note, they are starting construction later this

month on moms little efficiency. My sister has her guest room in her house

fixed up so nice with all moms personal things and it looks so great. I told her

the other day that if I was mom I wouldn't budge!! she's got it pretty good

right where she is!!!! My brother in law said that would be just fine with him,

they realy like having her there with them. But my mom is of the belief that

they need their own space and she needs hers too so here we go again. We will

probably move her in in Dec sometime.

I will keep you and Steve in my prayers dear one.

Love you,

Hi ,

I'm amazingly fine with at school. In fact I'm enjoying my quiet

mornings right now. It's just me and Steve here between 9 and 11:30 AM. I

lost the little girl that I was babysitting, so Steve and I both are out

of a job. :-( Steve's still iffy about taking the job at that company

that pays half or less of his last job. He had an interview last Fri. and

is suppose to give them an answer tomorrow. This job pays between 9 and

13 dollars an hour with no way to move up in the company. It's pretty

much a dead end job. Although it does offer a lot of required overtime.

Which means that Steve will leave at 7 AM and get home at 7 PM. They only

offer insurance on him and not the family. If he takes it, it will leave

him very little opportunity for applying and interviewing for other jobs

and of course the time that he'll be away from us. So if you could pray

for him about the decision.

I'm glad that your mom is getting settled. How long do you think it will

be before her new place is ready? How's she feeling?

Love ya!!!!

Liz

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On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 08:42:59 -0600 " rdc " <rdc@...> writes:

Thank you Lizzie.

Mom is moved into my sisters home until her little efficiency is finished

then we will have to move her again. This time it will be just across

the patio so shouldn't be too bad.

How are you adjusting with little in school? I remember how

traumatic it was when mine went for the first time.

How about Steve? I'm sorry I have been so negligent with keeping up. It

seems like everything here happened at once and is all consuming.

Have a wonderful day you little workout machine you!!!!

Love,

[Guest guest]

Hey !

Whoa, girlfriend!!! You have your revision actually scheduled, and you didnt

tell us!!!????!!!!

I know that I am soooo hoping that you have a spectacularly wonderful surgery

and recovery. I am guessing this event will be at UCSF....but who gets the

honors of doing the surgery? Will you have a one day, posterior only surgery?

Details please!

I know its been a long and painful road for you the past few years, here is

wishing you (eventually!) a pain free 2011.

Take Care, Cam

[Guest guest]

Thanks Cam.

Drs. Hu and Berven will be working together for my surgery (along with a

vascular surgeon). The plan is to clip the bottom of my current rods off, and

go up one level (L2) to attach the new implants to the old. I'll be fused down

to the sacrum, with fixation to the pelvis. Then, they'll flip me over and do

an ALIF at L5-S1.

I hope my recovery is even close to as miraculous as Kathy's.

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>

> Hey !

>

> Whoa, girlfriend!!! You have your revision actually scheduled, and you didnt

tell us!!!????!!!!

>

> I know that I am soooo hoping that you have a spectacularly wonderful surgery

and recovery. I am guessing this event will be at UCSF....but who gets the

honors of doing the surgery? Will you have a one day, posterior only surgery?

Details please!

>

> I know its been a long and painful road for you the past few years, here is

wishing you (eventually!) a pain free 2011.

>

> Take Care, Cam

>

[Guest guest]

Best of luck to you, . I hope that these surgeries allow you to live your life pain free and able to do the things you love. It sounds like you are in great hands. Jeanne From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of linda.racine@...Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 3:59 PM Subject: [ ] Re: to R Thanks Cam.Drs. Hu and Berven will be working together for my surgery (along with a vascular surgeon). The plan is to clip the bottom of my current rods off, and go up one level (L2) to attach the new implants to the old. I'll be fused down to the sacrum, with fixation to the pelvis. Then, they'll flip me over and do an ALIF at L5-S1.I hope my recovery is even close to as miraculous as Kathy's.-->> Hey !> > Whoa, girlfriend!!! You have your revision actually scheduled, and you didnt tell us!!!????!!!!> > I know that I am soooo hoping that you have a spectacularly wonderful surgery and recovery. I am guessing this event will be at UCSF....but who gets the honors of doing the surgery? Will you have a one day, posterior only surgery? Details please!> > I know its been a long and painful road for you the past few years, here is wishing you (eventually!) a pain free 2011.> > Take Care, Cam>

[Guest guest]

,

Sounds not too far off what I had done. DrRand says that the newer ability to

attach old to new implants has really improved...even since my surgery 5 years

ago. And not removing anything old will save your body tons of trauma. The

anterior portion though....that will not be so much fun. Are you doing this all

in one fell swoop (assuming all goes smoothly)?

You know how to be a good patient...2 of the best working on you...you will

likely have a stellar recovery!

Take Care, Cam

[Guest guest]

,

That is an amazing double team! And they will do it all in one surgery, awesome!

You know the drill, so I'm sure your recovery will be great.

Enjoy the holidays, and good luck with everything.

S.

p.s. I plan to visit both you and Kathy, so see you then!

> >

> > Hey !

> >

> > Whoa, girlfriend!!! You have your revision actually scheduled, and you didnt

tell us!!!????!!!!

> >

> > I know that I am soooo hoping that you have a spectacularly wonderful

surgery and recovery. I am guessing this event will be at UCSF....but who gets

the honors of doing the surgery? Will you have a one day, posterior only

surgery? Details please!

> >

> > I know its been a long and painful road for you the past few years, here is

wishing you (eventually!) a pain free 2011.

> >

> > Take Care, Cam

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi....

Since my first surgery included a very large open thoracotomy, I'm thinking the

anterior portion will be a piece of cake by comparison! Yes, it will all be

done in a single stage, and should only be 4-5 hours total.

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>

> ,

>

> Sounds not too far off what I had done. DrRand says that the newer ability to

attach old to new implants has really improved...even since my surgery 5 years

ago. And not removing anything old will save your body tons of trauma. The

anterior portion though....that will not be so much fun. Are you doing this all

in one fell swoop (assuming all goes smoothly)?

>

> You know how to be a good patient...2 of the best working on you...you will

likely have a stellar recovery!

>

> Take Care, Cam

>

[Guest guest]

,

Cant be any worse....thats for sure!

Take Care, Cam

[Guest guest]

,

 

I was so glad to read that you will be having two excellent surgeons working on you, and finally getting your revision.

 

I've been reading like crazy, I've been down for the count with a nasty bug the went directly to my lungs, and to my surprise, WOW, 's having surgery.

 

Here my hope for a very successful surgery, and an excellent overall outcome.

 

Hugs,

 

Colorado Springs

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:41 AM, cammaltby <cammaltby@...> wrote:

 

,Cant be any worse....thats for sure! Take Care, Cam

[Guest guest]

,

As for knowledge and research, you have done enough " due diligence " for all of

us, so I suspect you have a tremendous peace about the timing, the operative

plan, and team who will be working WITH you for a successful outcome.

Congratulations! You have walked so many through this process and given so

generously of your time and compassion; it's certainly your time to receive

instead of give.

I will be praying for you to have sustained peace and the highest of spirits

between now and then (which may seem like an eternity from time to time)!

With utmost respect and appreciation,

kam

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Best of luck with your revision surgery. I'm sure you will actually

need very little " luck " wih Drs. Hu and Berven at the head of your

team. We'll be thinking of you!

Why the vascular surgeon?

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

Not to butt into 's answer...but I think its fairly common to have a

vascular surgeon come in for the anterior portion of the surgery to move the

major vessels out of the way. I did. It reads kind of funny in the surgical

report... " DrP. completed XX and left the operating room not to return.... " ! I

suppose if they happen to nick those " puppies " it would be somewhat difficult to

locate a vascular surgeon on short notice...and time might be of the essence!

Naturally....there could be other reasons...

Take Care, Cam

[Guest guest]

I, too, had a vascular surgeon at the beginning of the anterior surgery. There

are a lot of important things in the way of your spine when they access it on

that side. An ortho or neurosurgeon can probably do an okay job of moving

things around, but it's safest to have a vascular surgeon moving those

veins/arteries out of the way. From what I was told, that was the most

dangerous part of the surgery!

>

> Bonnie,

>

> Not to butt into 's answer...but I think its fairly common to have a

vascular surgeon come in for the anterior portion of the surgery to move the

major vessels out of the way. I did. It reads kind of funny in the surgical

report... " DrP. completed XX and left the operating room not to return.... " ! I

suppose if they happen to nick those " puppies " it would be somewhat difficult to

locate a vascular surgeon on short notice...and time might be of the essence!

>

> Naturally....there could be other reasons...

>

> Take Care, Cam

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Berven likes to use a vascular surgeon for the ALIF, as there's a relatively

large risk of vascular injury. Since I've had 5 prior abdominal surgeries, the

scar tissue will make it even more difficult.

Thanks, everyone, for the good wishes.

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>

> Hi ,

>

> Best of luck with your revision surgery. I'm sure you will actually

> need very little " luck " wih Drs. Hu and Berven at the head of your

> team. We'll be thinking of you!

>

> Why the vascular surgeon?

>

> Bonnie

>