Myelogram

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Hi ,

I had my mylogram at UCLA. It was scarry, but I was fine. The Dr. was

wonderful. It was scarry because I had never had one, but going to an

experienced DR. made it not so bad.

If this person would like to contact me that would be fine. Give her my name

and email. My best advice is make sure the Dr. has done it on little people

before!

Good Luck,

Sincerely,

Patti Bell, achon.

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Dear other members,

As I read each post at the bottom it says to be in a

support group yada yada yada, but how do I get one

started?

Ellen Kear. PA 28 years old

--- Cook <abbyandcodysmom@...> wrote:

> I'm just like the rest of you. I had a Harrington

> Rod/Fusion for

> scoliosis in 1980. For the last 25 years I proudly

> said I have no

> pain, I'm very active, no problems. I gave birth to

> twins 10 years

> ago; naturally. The birth process was a piece of

> cake compared to my

> surgery 25 years ago.

>

> However, the story is much different today. About

> two years ago I

> started getting right hip pain. The pain now goes

> into my thigh and

> into my right pelvic bone, and across my lower back.

> I feel like I'm

> falling forward when I walk any distance. I'm in

> chronic pain. My pain

> level never leave an 8. I've had two CT's to rule

> out any pelvic

> issues. I've had an unsucceful epidural injection.

> I've had an in

> conclusive MRI due to distortion from the Harrington

> Rod. I'm now

> getting ready to have a CT Myelogram to figure out

> the what and why.

> I've just started having a lot of upper left side

> rib/hump pain. By

> the end of the day I feel like I'm carrying a ton of

> bricks. I've put

> on 30 lbs. because I can't exercise. I find myself

> using my legs to

> pull myself up all the time - which has caused some

> major calf pain.

> Thankfully I've figured out another way to pull

> myself up without too

> much pain. I feel so slowed down compared to a year

> ago. I thought I

> was just getting older (only 39). However, the

> doctors tell me its not

> that. However, they don't know what to do with me.

>

> I've been able to continue working full time without

> missing any time

> off. I'm honestly saving all my vacation/sick time

> because I

> instinctively know that I'll have to have some type

> of surgery.

>

> I've seen three different doctors and they all say,

> Spinal Stenosis,

> segatal(sp?)Inbalance and Radiculitis.

>

> Any comments would be great!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, this is a support group. You can also find many other types of online support groups, e.g., through If you are talking about a real live support group in your community or neighborhood, I am not sure what to tell you. Maybe other members will have some good advice. I am probably Internet-biased, but I can't help thinking that Web resources and email are among the best ways to find people you may eventually want to phone or meet up with locally. Our own feisty group has birthed at least one "regional" group that I know of, consisting of feisty New Englanders who get together near their medical center or elsewhere for socializing and mutual support. . Best of luck with your quest. Ellen Kear <ellen_kear@...> wrote: Dear other members, As I read each post at the bottom it says to be in asupport group yada yada yada, but how do I get onestarted?Ellen Kear. PA 28 years old--- Cook <abbyandcodysmom@...> wrote:> I'm just like the rest of you. I had a Harrington> Rod/Fusion for > scoliosis in 1980. For the last 25 years I proudly> said I have no > pain, I'm very active, no problems. I gave birth to> twins 10 years > ago; naturally. The birth process was a piece of> cake compared to my > surgery 25 years ago. > > However, the story is much different today. About> two years ago I > started getting right hip pain. The pain now goes> into my thigh and > into my right pelvic bone, and across my lower back.> I feel like I'm > falling forward when I walk any distance. I'm in> chronic pain. My pain > level

never leave an 8. I've had two CT's to rule> out any pelvic > issues. I've had an unsucceful epidural injection.> I've had an in > conclusive MRI due to distortion from the Harrington> Rod. I'm now > getting ready to have a CT Myelogram to figure out> the what and why. > I've just started having a lot of upper left side> rib/hump pain. By > the end of the day I feel like I'm carrying a ton of> bricks. I've put > on 30 lbs. because I can't exercise. I find myself> using my legs to > pull myself up all the time - which has caused some> major calf pain. > Thankfully I've figured out another way to pull> myself up without too > much pain. I feel so slowed down compared to a year> ago. I thought I > was just getting older (only 39). However, the> doctors tell me its not > that. However, they don't know what to do with me. >

> I've been able to continue working full time without> missing any time > off. I'm honestly saving all my vacation/sick time> because I > instinctively know that I'll have to have some type> of surgery. > > I've seen three different doctors and they all say,> Spinal Stenosis, > segatal(sp?)Inbalance and Radiculitis.> > Any comments would be great! > > > > > > > > > >

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I'm so sorry to hear all that you've suffered. As you know, you are not alone. I can't help thinking that maybe you have not been to the "right" doctor yet. You absolutely MUST rule out flatback syndrome (fixed sagittal imbalance) in a complete differential diagnosis. Even some orthopedic and spine specialists still do not seem to be fully aware of this problem. Sad to say, however, flatback syndrome is almost a hallmark or trademark of those of us in the "Harrington rod generation."It is a hard thing to face and accept, but it is treatable, and there is much hope for you if you do, in fact, have it. I am not saying that you DO have flatback -- to begin with, I have no qualifications for saying any such thing, and this group does not provide medical diagnosis or advice -- but you certainly have several signs and symptoms that are highly suggestive of this disorder. You may also have other spinal

factors contributing to your distress -- but, regardless, you must not overlook the possibility of flatback. You need to do whatever it takes to get to one of the more reputable and better-known specialists who deal with this problem on a regular basis. Most of these men and women are in the "upcoming generation" of spinal deformity specialists, average age maybe 45. Their forerunners, the older guys who trained them, are the people who inadvertently caused our flatback deformities via fusions with Harrington rods (especially fusions extending into the lumbar region -- they used to say "low lumbar," but my own fusion terminated around L-2 or L-3, and the ensuing flatback condition ultimately became extremely severe and disabling). One of these younger, specially trained and experienced docs is most likely to give you the straight dope, while some older docs may literally not even "see" any flatback deformity you might have. I know this sounds

preposterous, but it is based on all too many true sagas reported at this site! Until recent years, the whole subject was still pretty hush-hush, given the disastrous proportions of the flatback epidemic and the fact that the grand old men of flatback had not yet begun to retire from active practice. Nowadays, though, you will find many more knowledgeable and open spinal specialists who see and diagnose flatback on an almost routine basis. So please . . . Do yourself a favor and get to one of these people, or at least arrange to send some x-rays and request a phoine-consult. Please understand that you can not necessarily get a definitive diagnosis from just any scoliosis doctor or member of the Scoliosis Research Society. More SRS people are aware of flatback these days, but I suspect that many are still not skilled, as yet, in detecting or correcting it. A scoliosis specialist will most likely excel at

basic scoliosis correction -- but that is what you have already had. What you are dealing with now may well be the unfortunate adverse effects of the correction you underwent -- a whole different ball game. So, what you need now is not just another "scoliosis guy," but a far more subspecialized spinal deformity surgeon -- someone who deals with flatback syndrome on a regular basis; someone, in fact, who may not even do any basic scoliosis corrections at all. Just a few names of people whom you could trust to figure out and tell you what is going on with your spine (moving roughly from west to east): Drs. Bradford and Serena Hu at UCSF, Dr. Lagrone in Amarillo, the spine groups at Washington University in St. Louis and the University of Minnesota, MInneapolis, Dr. Ondra at Northwestern University, Chicago, Dr. Ohenaba Boachie-Adjel in Manhattan, Dr. Rand at New England Baptist in Boston. You can find other

names and more information by delving into our message archives here at the "Feisty" group -- you can browse old messages chronologically or input a search term on a specific topic. We also have much additional information available at the website, e.g., in the "Files" section. You sound like so many of us who have been through this group since we started out in the summer of 2000 as a small but stalwart band of eight confused and hurting people trying to figure out what was wrong with us and what to do about it. At that time, revision surgery to correct flatback syndrome was still relatively exotic and scared most of us out of our wits. But I'm here to tell you that we are now more than 500 strong, and untold numbers of us have now undergone this surgery. It is a pretty big deal, and it remains pretty scary to anyone facing it, and it is not to be undertaken lightly -- but it might just fix what ails you. I am personally still dealing with some residual pain and difficulty related to my previous scoliosis treatment, but I dread to think where I would be had I not gotten to several MDs who would -- who could -- give me the correct diagnosis and advise me what to explore next. Life after flatback revision surgery is not exactly a bed of roses or an unmitigated happy ending -- but life before flatback revision surgery was unlivable. I wish you the best and hope you will stay in touch with us as you pursue this very difficult journey you are on. You have many friends and companions along this arduous road. I think I can speak for most of our members in saying that we want to provide whatever help and support we possibly can for you -- that we are here for you always. Cook <abbyandcodysmom@...> wrote: I'm just like the rest of you. I had a Harrington Rod/Fusion for scoliosis in 1980. For the last 25 years I proudly said I have no pain, I'm very active, no problems. I gave birth to twins 10 years ago; naturally. The birth process was a piece of cake compared to my surgery 25 years ago. However, the story is much different today. About two years ago I started getting right hip pain. The pain now goes into my thigh and into my right pelvic bone, and across my lower back. I feel like I'm falling forward when I walk any distance. I'm in chronic pain. My pain level never leave an 8. I've had two CT's to rule out any pelvic issues. I've had an unsucceful epidural injection. I've had an in conclusive MRI due to distortion from the Harrington Rod. I'm now getting ready to have a CT Myelogram to figure out the what and why. I've just started having a lot of upper left side rib/hump

pain. By the end of the day I feel like I'm carrying a ton of bricks. I've put on 30 lbs. because I can't exercise. I find myself using my legs to pull myself up all the time - which has caused some major calf pain. Thankfully I've figured out another way to pull myself up without too much pain. I feel so slowed down compared to a year ago. I thought I was just getting older (only 39). However, the doctors tell me its not that. However, they don't know what to do with me. I've been able to continue working full time without missing any time off. I'm honestly saving all my vacation/sick time because I instinctively know that I'll have to have some type of surgery. I've seen three different doctors and they all say, Spinal Stenosis, segatal(sp?)Inbalance and Radiculitis.Any comments would be great!

[Guest guest]

Yes I had that done in May no problem at all with it. That's what showed up my

disc and a lot more on my spinel problem. Then 2 weeks later I had to have the

MRI done again also for my new Dr.

But not to worry it's OK.

Ev.

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I was a nervous wreck when I had mine. THey gave me a

valium to take 30 minutes before the test which helped

ALOT! I felt a tiny needle when they numbed me up

and that was it. THere was nothing to it. THen they

leaned the table up for the dye to run thru my spine

and it felt like I had a migraine but that only lasted

about a minute...until they were done getting the x

rays. Mel

--- suzisuri45 <suzisuri@...> wrote:

> Hi, I am schedule for a Myelogram on Thursday

> regarding my lower back.

> 2 discs bulging, stenosis, degenerative disc disease

> and scoliosis.

> I'm wondering if this test is safe for you. I've

> done googling in

> this, and a few articles says, it can cause

> arachnoiditis.

> Any help?

>

> Thankyou,

> Suzi

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Suzi, I have had the myelogram done twice and so far have had no problems from

doing it.

Hugs, Babs

[Guest guest]

Thankyou so much Ev!

EVELYN AIREY <EV9255@...> wrote: Yes I had that done in May no

problem at all with it. That's what showed up my disc and a lot more on my

spinel problem. Then 2 weeks later I had to have the MRI done again also for my

new Dr.

But not to worry it's OK.

Ev.

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Thankyou, I feel much better about having it now.

Suzi

Melody Sumnlers <melodysumnlers@...> wrote:

I was a nervous wreck when I had mine. THey gave me a

valium to take 30 minutes before the test which helped

ALOT! I felt a tiny needle when they numbed me up

and that was it. THere was nothing to it. THen they

leaned the table up for the dye to run thru my spine

and it felt like I had a migraine but that only lasted

about a minute...until they were done getting the x

rays. Mel

--- suzisuri45 <suzisuri@...> wrote:

> Hi, I am schedule for a Myelogram on Thursday

> regarding my lower back.

> 2 discs bulging, stenosis, degenerative disc disease

> and scoliosis.

> I'm wondering if this test is safe for you. I've

> done googling in

> this, and a few articles says, it can cause

> arachnoiditis.

> Any help?

>

> Thankyou,

> Suzi

>

>

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Thankyou, I feel much better about having it now.

Suzi

Melody Sumnlers <melodysumnlers@...> wrote:

I was a nervous wreck when I had mine. THey gave me a

valium to take 30 minutes before the test which helped

ALOT! I felt a tiny needle when they numbed me up

and that was it. THere was nothing to it. THen they

leaned the table up for the dye to run thru my spine

and it felt like I had a migraine but that only lasted

about a minute...until they were done getting the x

rays. Mel

--- suzisuri45 <suzisuri@...> wrote:

> Hi, I am schedule for a Myelogram on Thursday

> regarding my lower back.

> 2 discs bulging, stenosis, degenerative disc disease

> and scoliosis.

> I'm wondering if this test is safe for you. I've

> done googling in

> this, and a few articles says, it can cause

> arachnoiditis.

> Any help?

>

> Thankyou,

> Suzi

>

>

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Thankyou, I feel much better about having it now.

Suzi

Melody Sumnlers <melodysumnlers@...> wrote:

I was a nervous wreck when I had mine. THey gave me a

valium to take 30 minutes before the test which helped

ALOT! I felt a tiny needle when they numbed me up

and that was it. THere was nothing to it. THen they

leaned the table up for the dye to run thru my spine

and it felt like I had a migraine but that only lasted

about a minute...until they were done getting the x

rays. Mel

--- suzisuri45 <suzisuri@...> wrote:

> Hi, I am schedule for a Myelogram on Thursday

> regarding my lower back.

> 2 discs bulging, stenosis, degenerative disc disease

> and scoliosis.

> I'm wondering if this test is safe for you. I've

> done googling in

> this, and a few articles says, it can cause

> arachnoiditis.

> Any help?

>

> Thankyou,

> Suzi

>

>

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Thankyou, I feel much better about having it now.

Suzi

Melody Sumnlers <melodysumnlers@...> wrote:

I was a nervous wreck when I had mine. THey gave me a

valium to take 30 minutes before the test which helped

ALOT! I felt a tiny needle when they numbed me up

and that was it. THere was nothing to it. THen they

leaned the table up for the dye to run thru my spine

and it felt like I had a migraine but that only lasted

about a minute...until they were done getting the x

rays. Mel

--- suzisuri45 <suzisuri@...> wrote:

> Hi, I am schedule for a Myelogram on Thursday

> regarding my lower back.

> 2 discs bulging, stenosis, degenerative disc disease

> and scoliosis.

> I'm wondering if this test is safe for you. I've

> done googling in

> this, and a few articles says, it can cause

> arachnoiditis.

> Any help?

>

> Thankyou,

> Suzi

>

>

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Call you dr and tell him you are a nervous wreck and

that you need something for your nerves. He should

write you for a valium. I couldn't stop smiling...even

during the procedure. I am sure they thought I was

nuts. But I really didn't care. haha Mel

--- SuziQ <suzisuri@...> wrote:

> Thankyou, I feel much better about having it now.

>

> Suzi

>

> Melody Sumnlers <melodysumnlers@...> wrote:

> I was a nervous wreck when I had mine.

> THey gave me a

> valium to take 30 minutes before the test which

> helped

> ALOT! I felt a tiny needle when they numbed me up

> and that was it. THere was nothing to it. THen they

> leaned the table up for the dye to run thru my spine

> and it felt like I had a migraine but that only

> lasted

> about a minute...until they were done getting the x

> rays. Mel

> --- suzisuri45 <suzisuri@...> wrote:

>

> > Hi, I am schedule for a Myelogram on Thursday

> > regarding my lower back.

> > 2 discs bulging, stenosis, degenerative disc

> disease

> > and scoliosis.

> > I'm wondering if this test is safe for you. I've

> > done googling in

> > this, and a few articles says, it can cause

> > arachnoiditis.

> > Any help?

> >

> > Thankyou,

> > Suzi

> >

> >

>

>

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Call you dr and tell him you are a nervous wreck and

that you need something for your nerves. He should

write you for a valium. I couldn't stop smiling...even

during the procedure. I am sure they thought I was

nuts. But I really didn't care. haha Mel

--- SuziQ <suzisuri@...> wrote:

> Thankyou, I feel much better about having it now.

>

> Suzi

>

> Melody Sumnlers <melodysumnlers@...> wrote:

> I was a nervous wreck when I had mine.

> THey gave me a

> valium to take 30 minutes before the test which

> helped

> ALOT! I felt a tiny needle when they numbed me up

> and that was it. THere was nothing to it. THen they

> leaned the table up for the dye to run thru my spine

> and it felt like I had a migraine but that only

> lasted

> about a minute...until they were done getting the x

> rays. Mel

> --- suzisuri45 <suzisuri@...> wrote:

>

> > Hi, I am schedule for a Myelogram on Thursday

> > regarding my lower back.

> > 2 discs bulging, stenosis, degenerative disc

> disease

> > and scoliosis.

> > I'm wondering if this test is safe for you. I've

> > done googling in

> > this, and a few articles says, it can cause

> > arachnoiditis.

> > Any help?

> >

> > Thankyou,

> > Suzi

> >

> >

>

>

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Call you dr and tell him you are a nervous wreck and

that you need something for your nerves. He should

write you for a valium. I couldn't stop smiling...even

during the procedure. I am sure they thought I was

nuts. But I really didn't care. haha Mel

--- SuziQ <suzisuri@...> wrote:

> Thankyou, I feel much better about having it now.

>

> Suzi

>

> Melody Sumnlers <melodysumnlers@...> wrote:

> I was a nervous wreck when I had mine.

> THey gave me a

> valium to take 30 minutes before the test which

> helped

> ALOT! I felt a tiny needle when they numbed me up

> and that was it. THere was nothing to it. THen they

> leaned the table up for the dye to run thru my spine

> and it felt like I had a migraine but that only

> lasted

> about a minute...until they were done getting the x

> rays. Mel

> --- suzisuri45 <suzisuri@...> wrote:

>

> > Hi, I am schedule for a Myelogram on Thursday

> > regarding my lower back.

> > 2 discs bulging, stenosis, degenerative disc

> disease

> > and scoliosis.

> > I'm wondering if this test is safe for you. I've

> > done googling in

> > this, and a few articles says, it can cause

> > arachnoiditis.

> > Any help?

> >

> > Thankyou,

> > Suzi

> >

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Call you dr and tell him you are a nervous wreck and

that you need something for your nerves. He should

write you for a valium. I couldn't stop smiling...even

during the procedure. I am sure they thought I was

nuts. But I really didn't care. haha Mel

--- SuziQ <suzisuri@...> wrote:

> Thankyou, I feel much better about having it now.

>

> Suzi

>

> Melody Sumnlers <melodysumnlers@...> wrote:

> I was a nervous wreck when I had mine.

> THey gave me a

> valium to take 30 minutes before the test which

> helped

> ALOT! I felt a tiny needle when they numbed me up

> and that was it. THere was nothing to it. THen they

> leaned the table up for the dye to run thru my spine

> and it felt like I had a migraine but that only

> lasted

> about a minute...until they were done getting the x

> rays. Mel

> --- suzisuri45 <suzisuri@...> wrote:

>

> > Hi, I am schedule for a Myelogram on Thursday

> > regarding my lower back.

> > 2 discs bulging, stenosis, degenerative disc

> disease

> > and scoliosis.

> > I'm wondering if this test is safe for you. I've

> > done googling in

> > this, and a few articles says, it can cause

> > arachnoiditis.

> > Any help?

> >

> > Thankyou,

> > Suzi

> >

> >

>

>

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No problem you will be OK and we are all with you.

Hug,Ev

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No problem you will be OK and we are all with you.

Hug,Ev

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No problem you will be OK and we are all with you.

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Yeah you can do that to take the edge off. Suzi you sound so much like me with

the same problems. You will be OK..

Love ya,Ev.

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Yeah you can do that to take the edge off. Suzi you sound so much like me with

the same problems. You will be OK..

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Yeah you can do that to take the edge off. Suzi you sound so much like me with

the same problems. You will be OK..

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Yeah you can do that to take the edge off. Suzi you sound so much like me with

the same problems. You will be OK..

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,

 

Surgery is not the best thing for stenosis, sadly we have nothing great to offer

sufferers of stenosis. My little brother has it too. He's 27, was diagnosed at

about 18, but had pain when he was very young and it was termed " growing pains " .

He has not had surgery, and he has a very hard time sleeping and managing his

pain. It has taken a terrible toll on his life and enjoyment of it. I feel so

sad for him. His is congenital as well. And FYI, it's pedicles. LOL!

 

If surgery is going to work, it would be helpful only for the sciatic pain, and

then there's no guarantee.

 

Best of Luck ,

 

 

From: uca79iii <uca79iiigmail (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Myelogram

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 9:58 PM

>

> I have had good relief from RFL, but sadly it doesn't last long

enough for me to be a viable source of pain relief. I only get about 2

-3 weeks relief and you can do it no sooner than 3 months apart on the

same side. ---

>

I had mine the last week in December and it took a few weeks for the

pain to subside. I don't have half as much burning pain in my arms as

I once did. I hope mine lasts a while.