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Wow, that's too bad . I do see in the office that when people have an

adverse effect to the Ultram, it is usually stomach upset.

 

You should talk to your doc about using Toradol for occasional break-through

pain. Unless you have stomach problems. It is a powerful NSAID that works as

well as the best narcotics out there. If used to often it can lead to peptic

ulcer, so one must be careful withit's use. But when only used for breakthrough

pain...it is a wonder drug. Even my WORST pain imaginable...a 10 out of 10...the

Toradol has killed it. It comes in 30mg for IM injection or 10 mg pills. Many

docs are not used to prescribing it, so you need to research it and present the

idea, just to give it a try. But it is a wonder drug. It's what we give in the

OR before a patient wakes up from surgery. It is the most powerful knock-out

drug for pain ever!!!!

 

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From: Jim & <_JM@...>

Subject: Re: Physical Therapy

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Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 5:31 PM

Hey Tracey,

I tried the ultram er and it made me sick as a dog. I mean like a stomach virus,

had my guts hurting and very sick. I had taken the ultram before but just not

the er and it was okay. I've had problems with other er drugs like the diabetes

medicine glucophage er. So I must have a problem with whatever it is that makes

it extended release. Go figure. I'll not ever take that stuff again tho. I even

tried it a second time cause I thought I might have actually gotten a stomach

virus but it did the same thing again. I wish I knew of a drug besides these

lortabs that would help long term that I could tolerate.

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Bravo, living like a normal person is the goal. Im my case, I usually wake up

around 5:30 in the morning and take a couple of Ultram and hae a cup of tea and

a light breakfast. This " getting going " period lasts about an hour. I stopped

trying a long time ago to get the license plate of the truck that hits me when I

first get out of bed. Anyway, by the time I hit work, I'm OK for 2-4 hours.

Afternoons get rough with sharp stsabbing pain and I have an option to take a

half or whole norco 10mg. If I actually need to do some human being activities

like pulling weeds or emptying the dishwasher later, I usually go with a whole

pill. This is significantly less medicine than I used to take. As an engineer, I

need to stay sharp because I am challenged on some subject matter all day long.

I have found the pain kills concentration way more than the pain pills. I wish

I could get a surgical approach I could believe in. The last surgery was major

and didn't do a thing and what I need to get over now is the dissapointment of

that. Oh well, as bad as it gets, there is always someone within shouting

distance with worse pain so I try to turn complaints around into a daily prayer

for all who have pain. Nice to correspond with you, , my regards, Dave.

spinal problems

From: tpowell1977@...

Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 06:55:01 -0700

Subject: RE: Physical Therapy

Absolutely . it is because of my judicial use of narcotics that I can get

relief from the Ultram now. I didn't get any relief when I was taking Percocet

on a regular basis. It wasn't until I droppped the narcs with the exception of

break-though pain that I got relief. I am now able to get relief of

break-through pain with Tylenol #4...which is amazing!

When i do need some, I start with only a half tab...my goal is necver to take

the pain away...although that would be lovely...but it's to make it manageable.

I have to rely on these meds to work for me for a lifetime...so I'm extra

careful. Also, when you do that, you increase your pain tolerance a lot. When

you take narcs often, you get used to that level of pain control, so levels of

pain which were acceptable before...become difficult to bear. Narcs can be

difficult to manage and lead you on a ride if you aren't careful.

I know some people scoff when I say Ultram can work on the pain and they have to

cut back and or stop the narcs for that to happen...but it's true. They will

adjust to the pain levels and the narcs will become more effective. The

motivating thought for me was that if I kept going, I was soon going to run out

of anything that will work if I didn't stop the process. So, I stopped it before

it got to that point.People here say that their pain is just too high that the

Ultram doesn't work...and it's NOT that. Believe me, I have had six surgeries

and have continued to work, many times in agonizing pain. I worked in so much

pain that I developed a heart condition. But now it's better, and the Ultram ER

has changed my life. It never wears off! I don't have to stop and take meds all

day! So I'm able to forget about my chronic pain and live my life. I feel like a

normal person!

---

> > >>

> > >> From: Jane Tatum <janetatumcharter (DOT)

> net>

> > >> Subject: Physical

> > Therapy

> > >> spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro

> ups.com

> > >> Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 10:40 AM

> > >>

> > >> I am coming out of total lurkdom here to say

> that

> > the best physical

> > >> therapist I have ever met had a BS degree

> from

> > Texas State Women's

> > >> College.

> > >> I think his expertise is why I have been able

> to

> > walk again after my

> > >> laminectormy and posterior lumbar fusion on

> > December 29, 2008. I know

> > >> that

> > >> I have a lot of time yet to go to get

> recovered

> > from my surgery and

> > >> that the

> > >> pain I deal with daily is just something that

> is

> > part of life. I just

> > >> wanted to make the point that talent and

> > professionalism can come

> > >> with a

> > >> lesser amount of training. Genuine concern

> for

> > doing a good job is a

> > >> major

> > >> factor as well.

> > >>

> > >> I enjoy being a part of this group and

> certainly

> > read the posts every

> > >> day.

> > >> All of us who are in the situation of dealing

> with

> > spinal issues have

> > >> a very

> > >> special bond, and the ability to support

> each

> > other through difficult

> > >> times

> > >> is a major factor in all of our lives.

> > >>

> > >> Jane Tatum

> > >> Tennessee

> > >>

> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >>

> > >> ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >>

> > >>

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Thanks for the info on the Toradol, I will ask my pain management doc

about it. I do have a bad stomach tho too. I had to quit taking Celebrex due to

a ulcer. They thought I had a pyloric mass and now 4 endoscopies later (2 with

ultrasound) they don't know where it went. They had pics of it and everything.

So I have to take it easy with my stomach. I also have a lap band that has given

me nothing but problems ever since having it put in and my stomach doc says I

should have it taken out. Oh well, if it's not one thing, it's your mother. hehe

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Dave,

I hear you loud and clear...the pain DOES wipe out your concentration way more

than the pain meds do. I worked in the OR before I gave up the job to take care

of my back. I was in such misery standing at the OR table and not being able to

move...I couldn't focus at all. But with the pain meds...I was good. Mornings

were always tough for me too until I started the Ultram ER. Now I wake up

feeling great! AND I sleep all night too. Which of course help cope with

everything else. I I have to weed or do yard work I take a Tylenol #4 or a

Toradol. It KILLS me..but I refuse to give it up. I took a laid back job working

2 days a week and started rigorous PT...and now after 9 mos, I m feeling ready

to go back to full time. But I don't think I can do the OR again.

Like you said...there's always someone nearby who's worse off...that's always

helped keep me in check and grateful. Surgery is overrated. There's almost no

surgery that doesn't leave you with something...nerve damage...spine changes due

to the anatomical changes the surgery created..I could go on and on. If you ccan

find a way to function and work, even if you have to decrease hours or change

jobs, I would avaoid surgery until I was incapacitated.

Keep your chin up, stay positive and laugh every day...

--tracy

> > > >>

> > > >> From: Jane Tatum <janetatumcharter (DOT)

> > net>

> > > >> Subject:

> Physical

> > > Therapy

> > > >> spinedisorderssuppo

> rtgroup@gro

> > ups.com

> > > >> Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 10:40 AM

> > > >>

> > > >> I am coming out of total lurkdom here to

> say

> > that

> > > the best physical

> > > >> therapist I have ever met had a BS

> degree

> > from

> > > Texas State Women's

> > > >> College.

> > > >> I think his expertise is why I have been

> able

> > to

> > > walk again after my

> > > >> laminectormy and posterior lumbar fusion

> on

> > > December 29, 2008. I know

> > > >> that

> > > >> I have a lot of time yet to go to get

> > recovered

> > > from my surgery and

> > > >> that the

> > > >> pain I deal with daily is just something

> that

> > is

> > > part of life. I just

> > > >> wanted to make the point that talent

> and

> > > professionalism can come

> > > >> with a

> > > >> lesser amount of training. Genuine

> concern

> > for

> > > doing a good job is a

> > > >> major

> > > >> factor as well.

> > > >>

> > > >> I enjoy being a part of this group and

> > certainly

> > > read the posts every

> > > >> day.

> > > >> All of us who are in the situation of

> dealing

> > with

> > > spinal issues have

> > > >> a very

> > > >> special bond, and the ability to

> support

> > each

> > > other through difficult

> > > >> times

> > > >> is a major factor in all of our lives.

> > > >>

> > > >> Jane Tatum

> > > >> Tennessee

> > > >>

> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have

> been

> > > removed]

> > > >>

> > > >> ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > >>

> > > >>

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Ultram ER that is a prescription drug right? Did you have your PCP or the

surgeon prescribe it? I am wondering why the surgeon don't tell you that

surgery will just cause more surgeries and pain in the neck or spine.. Had I

known this 6 years ago I might have thought before just doing the surgery. I had

it again in Feb this year and I am in so much pain it is unbelievable I am sure

you all can relate but now they are talking about doing surgery again for

herniated disc's and stenosis. I might ask about the Ultram ER as I sit a

computer for 9 hours a day and I am in lots of pain even after 2 hours of

working..

I appreciate this group so much. You all are so knowledgeable.

Thanks again

spinal problems

From: tpowell1977@...

Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:49:33 -0700

Subject: RE: Physical Therapy

Dave,

I hear you loud and clear...the pain DOES wipe out your concentration way more

than the pain meds do. I worked in the OR before I gave up the job to take care

of my back. I was in such misery standing at the OR table and not being able to

move...I couldn't focus at all. But with the pain meds...I was good. Mornings

were always tough for me too until I started the Ultram ER. Now I wake up

feeling great! AND I sleep all night too. Which of course help cope with

everything else. I I have to weed or do yard work I take a Tylenol #4 or a

Toradol. It KILLS me..but I refuse to give it up. I took a laid back job working

2 days a week and started rigorous PT...and now after 9 mos, I m feeling ready

to go back to full time. But I don't think I can do the OR again.

Like you said...there's always someone nearby who's worse off...that's always

helped keep me in check and grateful. Surgery is overrated. There's almost no

surgery that doesn't leave you with something...nerve damage...spine changes due

to the anatomical changes the surgery created..I could go on and on. If you ccan

find a way to function and work, even if you have to decrease hours or change

jobs, I would avaoid surgery until I was incapacitated.

Keep your chin up, stay positive and laugh every day...

--tracy

> > > >>

> > > >> From: Jane Tatum <janetatumcharter (DOT)

> > net>

> > > >> Subject:

> Physical

> > > Therapy

> > > >> spinedisorderssuppo

> rtgroup@gro

> > ups.com

> > > >> Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 10:40 AM

> > > >>

> > > >> I am coming out of total lurkdom here to

> say

> > that

> > > the best physical

> > > >> therapist I have ever met had a BS

> degree

> > from

> > > Texas State Women's

> > > >> College.

> > > >> I think his expertise is why I have been

> able

> > to

> > > walk again after my

> > > >> laminectormy and posterior lumbar fusion

> on

> > > December 29, 2008. I know

> > > >> that

> > > >> I have a lot of time yet to go to get

> > recovered

> > > from my surgery and

> > > >> that the

> > > >> pain I deal with daily is just something

> that

> > is

> > > part of life. I just

> > > >> wanted to make the point that talent

> and

> > > professionalism can come

> > > >> with a

> > > >> lesser amount of training. Genuine

> concern

> > for

> > > doing a good job is a

> > > >> major

> > > >> factor as well.

> > > >>

> > > >> I enjoy being a part of this group and

> > certainly

> > > read the posts every

> > > >> day.

> > > >> All of us who are in the situation of

> dealing

> > with

> > > spinal issues have

> > > >> a very

> > > >> special bond, and the ability to

> support

> > each

> > > other through difficult

> > > >> times

> > > >> is a major factor in all of our lives.

> > > >>

> > > >> Jane Tatum

> > > >> Tennessee

> > > >>

> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have

> been

> > > removed]

> > > >>

> > > >> ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > >>

> > > >>

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,

The Ultram ER is prescription, and it comes in 100, 200 and 300 mg. It will prob

take the 300 to get good pain control, but you have to work your way up to that

dose. It is an expensive medication, but worth every penny! And your doc can get

discount cards from the sales rep. I have some at work I can send you one, if

your doc does decide to try you on this med. And yes, my PCP was writing it for

years, but now my PM doc does...though I'm pretty much done with him..I'll be

going back to my PCP for it.

---

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >> From: Jane Tatum

> <janetatumcharter (DOT)

>

> > > net>

>

> > > > >> Subject: [spinal Disorders

> Support]

>

> > Physical

>

> > > > Therapy

>

> > > > >> spinedisorderssuppo

>

> > rtgroup@gro

>

> > > ups.com

>

> > > > >> Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 10:40

> AM

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >> I am coming out of total lurkdom

> here to

>

> > say

>

> > > that

>

> > > > the best physical

>

> > > > >> therapist I have ever met had a BS

>

> > degree

>

> > > from

>

> > > > Texas State Women's

>

> > > > >> College.

>

> > > > >> I think his expertise is why I have

> been

>

> > able

>

> > > to

>

> > > > walk again after my

>

> > > > >> laminectormy and posterior lumbar

> fusion

>

> > on

>

> > > > December 29, 2008. I know

>

> > > > >> that

>

> > > > >> I have a lot of time yet to go to

> get

>

> > > recovered

>

> > > > from my surgery and

>

> > > > >> that the

>

> > > > >> pain I deal with daily is just

> something

>

> > that

>

> > > is

>

> > > > part of life. I just

>

> > > > >> wanted to make the point that

> talent

>

> > and

>

> > > > professionalism can come

>

> > > > >> with a

>

> > > > >> lesser amount of training. Genuine

>

> > concern

>

> > > for

>

> > > > doing a good job is a

>

> > > > >> major

>

> > > > >> factor as well.

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >> I enjoy being a part of this group

> and

>

> > > certainly

>

> > > > read the posts every

>

> > > > >> day.

>

> > > > >> All of us who are in the situation

> of

>

> > dealing

>

> > > with

>

> > > > spinal issues have

>

> > > > >> a very

>

> > > > >> special bond, and the ability to

>

> > support

>

> > > each

>

> > > > other through difficult

>

> > > > >> times

>

> > > > >> is a major factor in all of our

> lives.

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >> Jane Tatum

>

> > > > >> Tennessee

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message

> have

>

> > been

>

> > > > removed]

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >> ------------ --------- ---------

> ------

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >>

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I second the use of Ultram.  I personally avoid the use of pain killers until

function is lost without them.  But there are times I have to use them.

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >> From: Jane Tatum

> <janetatumcharter (DOT)

>

> > > net>

>

> > > > >> Subject: [spinal Disorders

> Support]

>

> > Physical

>

> > > > Therapy

>

> > > > >> spinedisorderssuppo

>

> > rtgroup@gro

>

> > > ups.com

>

> > > > >> Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 10:40

> AM

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >> I am coming out of total lurkdom

> here to

>

> > say

>

> > > that

>

> > > > the best physical

>

> > > > >> therapist I have ever met had a BS

>

> > degree

>

> > > from

>

> > > > Texas State Women's

>

> > > > >> College.

>

> > > > >> I think his expertise is why I have

> been

>

> > able

>

> > > to

>

> > > > walk again after my

>

> > > > >> laminectormy and posterior lumbar

> fusion

>

> > on

>

> > > > December 29, 2008. I know

>

> > > > >> that

>

> > > > >> I have a lot of time yet to go to

> get

>

> > > recovered

>

> > > > from my surgery and

>

> > > > >> that the

>

> > > > >> pain I deal with daily is just

> something

>

> > that

>

> > > is

>

> > > > part of life. I just

>

> > > > >> wanted to make the point that

> talent

>

> > and

>

> > > > professionalism can come

>

> > > > >> with a

>

> > > > >> lesser amount of training. Genuine

>

> > concern

>

> > > for

>

> > > > doing a good job is a

>

> > > > >> major

>

> > > > >> factor as well.

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >> I enjoy being a part of this group

> and

>

> > > certainly

>

> > > > read the posts every

>

> > > > >> day.

>

> > > > >> All of us who are in the situation

> of

>

> > dealing

>

> > > with

>

> > > > spinal issues have

>

> > > > >> a very

>

> > > > >> special bond, and the ability to

>

> > support

>

> > > each

>

> > > > other through difficult

>

> > > > >> times

>

> > > > >> is a major factor in all of our

> lives.

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >> Jane Tatum

>

> > > > >> Tennessee

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message

> have

>

> > been

>

> > > > removed]

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >> ------------ --------- ---------

> ------

>

> > > > >>

>

> > > > >>

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,

Reading the postings that you and others have written has been a tremendous

help.  The insight and knowledge that you offer is invaluable!  Had somebody

explain narcotic pain management to me as you do, I might not be dealing with

some of the issues that I am.  I have realized that I have gone a bit too far,

but I can now clearly see as to what lengths.  I will try following your

recommendations, hoping to get a better handle on my pain and management.

After 12 of my 30 years of living with congenital, degenerative issues

involving lumbar pain, I have finally agreed to L5-S1 fusion surgery; hopefully,

it should be happening during this coming August.  Pending insurance's

acceptance, I am to await the exact date.  Until now, I have been using all

kinds of narcotic medications.  The time has come to end the meds and the pain,

once and for all!

Scared, I am hoping for the best.  I just want the pain gone.  Unfortunatly, I

was told not to expect the riddance of all pain.  However, after reading the

postings from this group, I am unsure what to expect.  It seems as though

there are those whom have had surgery that was a total failure, while others

that have had surgery that exceeded all positive expectations.  The pain range

was where some had minimal to no pain, while others experienced horrible, and

perhaps even worse pain.  What more, if anything, could you offer about the

" usual " , post-surgery condition(s)?  Being that you have had 6, the advice and

information which you share would holds high-value to me.

Thanks everybody,

Dave

 

 

m: Babbitt <tpowell1977@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:55:01 AM

Subject: RE: Physical Therapy

Absolutely . it is because of my judicial use of narcotics that I can get

relief from the Ultram now. I didn't get any relief when I was taking Percocet

on a regular basis. It wasn't until I droppped the narcs with the exception of

break-though pain that I got relief. I am now able to get relief of

break-through pain with Tylenol #4...which is amazing!

When i do need some, I start with only a half tab...my goal is necver to take

the pain away...although that would be lovely...but it's to make it manageable.

I have to rely on these meds to work for me for a lifetime...so I'm extra

careful. Also, when you do that, you increase your pain tolerance a lot. When

you take narcs often, you get used to that level of pain control, so levels of

pain which were acceptable before...become difficult to bear. Narcs can be

difficult to manage and lead you on a ride if you aren't careful.

I know some people scoff when I say Ultram can work on the pain and they have to

cut back and or stop the narcs for that to happen...but it's true. They will

adjust to the pain levels and the narcs will become more effective. The

motivating thought for me was that if I kept going, I was soon going to run out

of anything that will work if I didn't stop the process. So, I stopped it before

it got to that point.People here say that their pain is just too high that the

Ultram doesn't work...and it's NOT that. Believe me, I have had six surgeries

and have continued to work, many times in agonizing pain. I worked in so much

pain that I developed a heart condition. But now it's better, and the Ultram ER

has changed my life. It never wears off! I don't have to stop and take meds all

day! So I'm able to forget about my chronic pain and live my life. I feel like a

normal person!

---

> > >>

> > >> From: Jane Tatum <janetatumcharter (DOT)

> net>

> > >> Subject: Physical

> > Therapy

> > >> spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro

> ups.com

> > >> Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 10:40 AM

> > >>

> > >> I am coming out of total lurkdom here to say

> that

> > the best physical

> > >> therapist I have ever met had a BS degree

> from

> > Texas State Women's

> > >> College.

> > >> I think his expertise is why I have been able

> to

> > walk again after my

> > >> laminectormy and posterior lumbar fusion on

> > December 29, 2008. I know

> > >> that

> > >> I have a lot of time yet to go to get

> recovered

> > from my surgery and

> > >> that the

> > >> pain I deal with daily is just something that

> is

> > part of life. I just

> > >> wanted to make the point that talent and

> > professionalism can come

> > >> with a

> > >> lesser amount of training. Genuine concern

> for

> > doing a good job is a

> > >> major

> > >> factor as well.

> > >>

> > >> I enjoy being a part of this group and

> certainly

> > read the posts every

> > >> day.

> > >> All of us who are in the situation of dealing

> with

> > spinal issues have

> > >> a very

> > >> special bond, and the ability to support

> each

> > other through difficult

> > >> times

> > >> is a major factor in all of our lives.

> > >>

> > >> Jane Tatum

> > >> Tennessee

> > >>

> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >>

> > >> ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >>

> > >>

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,

I am so happy you are doing so well, it's a glimmer of hope that one day I can

get to the point you are. I am also jealous lol, I don't remember what it's like

to not suffer with an 8 and above of pain. Now days I'm just thankful I have

something to knock the sharp edge off. I have been getting ESI's and the last

one was around the C4 level where my fusions start, that one was a rough ride,

and still have to be careful. I get really swimmy headed if I message a cramp in

my neck.  Do you have any idea what that is? I felt as though the room was

moving around on me.

Anyway congrats on your accomplishments, I hope you continue to get better. I

know its been a long rough and rocky road for you. Take care!

 

Bama, george

Dave,

I hear you loud and clear...the pain DOES wipe out your concentration way more

than the pain meds do. I worked in the OR before I gave up the job to take care

of my back. I was in such misery standing at the OR table and not being able to

move...I couldn't focus at all. But with the pain meds...I was good. Mornings

were always tough for me too until I started the Ultram ER. Now I wake up

feeling great! AND I sleep all night too. Which of course help cope with

everything else. I I have to weed or do yard work I take a Tylenol #4 or a

Toradol. It KILLS me..but I refuse to give it up. I took a laid back job working

2 days a week and started rigorous PT...and now after 9 mos, I m feeling ready

to go back to full time. But I don't think I can do the OR again.

Like you said...there' s always someone nearby who's worse off...that's always

helped keep me in check and grateful.. Surgery is overrated. There's almost no

surgery that doesn't leave you with something... nerve damage...spine changes

due to the anatomical changes the surgery created..I could go on and on. If you

ccan find a way to function and work, even if you have to decrease hours or

change jobs, I would avaoid surgery until I was incapacitated.

Keep your chin up, stay positive and laugh every day...

--tracy

> From: Kurek <dkndehotmail (DOT) com>

> Subject: RE: Physical Therapy

> " david kurek " <spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com>

> Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 10:23 AM

>

> Bravo, living like a normal person is the goal. Im my case,

> I usually wake up around 5:30 in the morning and take a

> couple of Ultram and hae a cup of tea and a light breakfast.

> This " getting going " period lasts about an hour.  I

> stopped trying a long time ago to get the license plate of

> the truck that hits me when I first get out of bed. Anyway,

> by the time I hit work, I'm OK for 2-4 hours.. 

> Afternoons get rough with sharp stsabbing pain and I have an

> option to take a half or whole norco 10mg. If I actually

> need to do some human being activities like pulling weeds or

> emptying the dishwasher later, I usually go with a whole

> pill. This is significantly less medicine than I used to

> take. As an engineer, I need to stay sharp because I am

> challenged on some subject matter all day long. I have found

> the pain kills concentration way more than the pain

> pills.  I wish I could get a surgical approach I could

> believe in. The last surgery was major and didn't do a thing

> and what I need to get over now is the dissapointment of

> that. Oh well, as bad as it gets, there is always someone

> within shouting distance with worse pain so I try to turn

> complaints around into a daily prayer for all who have pain.

> Nice to correspond with you, ,  my regards, Dave.

>

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Not yet, but I " m planning on it as an alternative to an L4-L5 fusion,

along with..since there is nothing to lose, that mediation I posted about the

other day.

Building up the muscles that support the spine makes sense, but because

I've got a " goner " disk there, and spondylosthesis, I want a really good PT

to set up a routine for me that will NOT risk de-stabilizing my spine. Few

things catch your attention like feeling bone on bone spinal movement!

PT six months post-op was recommended after my diskectomy/foraminotomy,

but my daily life involves a lot of movement & I passed at the time.

In a message dated 7/15/2010 10:06:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

kittywagon98@... writes:

Has anyone tried Physical Therapy a year after surgery on the lumbar

spine? I am still having a lot of pain in my back and right leg and foot, and

my

doctor wants me to go to Physical Therapy. I thought that I would have

been send after about a month or so after the surgery, but all he wanted me to

do was walk, which I do.

He had intended to do another surgery, but after taking a complete MRI of

my spine, said that all my disk was gone and that I have stenosis of the

spine, he can no longer help me, and he dismissed me except the PT.

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Has anyone tried Physical Therapy a year after surgery on the lumbar spine? I am

still having a lot of pain in my back and right leg and foot, and my doctor

wants me to go to Physical Therapy. I thought that I would have been send after

about a month or so after the surgery, but all he wanted me to do was walk,

which I do.

He had intended to do another surgery, but after taking a complete MRI of my

spine, said that all my disk was gone and that I have stenosis of the spine, he

can no longer help me, and he dismissed me except the PT.

slowpoke60

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Sorry about your continued pain. People that do not have this pain really do no

have any idea what it is like. And pain like this can make people like us have

surgeries that we know and here often does not turn out well. I have been on the

fence about having this surgery. Thank's again for your post.

Re: Physical Therapy

My ortho surgeon has been very honest about it being extremely rough

surgery, a rough recovery, and not a lot of guarantees, so believe me, it's not

on my " to do " list as long as I can still walk.

In a message dated 7/17/2010 11:56:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

kittywagon98@... writes:

I don't know if I would have the surgery done or not now since I know the

outcome. I am not any better off with the surgery, in fact, it is worst.

After almost a year the pain is not any better and I still can't ride in my

car very far without hurting really bad. Going shopping is just about out.

So really think long and hard about having fusion done on your back. Like

my general physician told me, You hurt before and you will still hurt after.

He was right!.

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That is what I was also thinking about, but I live about 40 miles one way from

anywhere I could go. So I don't know. I really don't see how regular PT could

help at this late date. But water therapy might could. I have tried to swim

(kicking my legs, which means bending my back some and it was a really big NO NO

)

Joyce

> >

> > Has anyone tried Physical Therapy a year after surgery on the lumbar spine?

I am still having a lot of pain in my back and right leg and foot, and my doctor

wants me to go to Physical Therapy. I thought that I would have been send after

about a month or so after the surgery, but all he wanted me to do was walk,

which I do.

> >

> > He had intended to do another surgery, but after taking a complete MRI of my

spine, said that all my disk was gone and that I have stenosis of the spine, he

can no longer help me, and he dismissed me except the PT.

> >

> > slowpoke60

> >

>

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I don't know if I would have the surgery done or not now since I know the

outcome. I am not any better off with the surgery, in fact, it is worst. After

almost a year the pain is not any better and I still can't ride in my car very

far without hurting really bad. Going shopping is just about out. So really

think long and hard about having fusion done on your back. Like my general

physician told me, You hurt before and you will still hurt after. He was right!.

Joyce

>

> Not yet, but I " m planning on it as an alternative to an L4-L5 fusion,

> along with..since there is nothing to lose, that mediation I posted about

the

> other day.

>

> Building up the muscles that support the spine makes sense, but because

> I've got a " goner " disk there, and spondylosthesis, I want a really good PT

> to set up a routine for me that will NOT risk de-stabilizing my spine. Few

> things catch your attention like feeling bone on bone spinal movement!

>

> PT six months post-op was recommended after my diskectomy/foraminotomy,

> but my daily life involves a lot of movement & I passed at the time.

>

>

> In a message dated 7/15/2010 10:06:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> kittywagon98@... writes:

>

> Has anyone tried Physical Therapy a year after surgery on the lumbar

> spine? I am still having a lot of pain in my back and right leg and foot, and

my

> doctor wants me to go to Physical Therapy. I thought that I would have

> been send after about a month or so after the surgery, but all he wanted me

to

> do was walk, which I do.

>

> He had intended to do another surgery, but after taking a complete MRI of

> my spine, said that all my disk was gone and that I have stenosis of the

> spine, he can no longer help me, and he dismissed me except the PT.

>

>

>

>

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I finally got to go to therapy yesterday. Mark pinpointed the problem right

off. What I feel moving and popping is the left SI joint. He also discovered

that since revision one of hips has rotated forward or one has rotated backward

or a little of both. So I am completely out of whack. Mark said I have buns of

cotton. So we'll work on building up strength in my core so Mark can rotate my

hips back into place and the muscles will hold them in place.

Peggy

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Peggy- That sounds like great news - that the physical therapist can get you

back into shape and you don't need any more surgery! I hope when the time

comes, that I find the right physical therapist. Regards, Beth (Long Island)

>

> I finally got to go to therapy yesterday. Mark pinpointed the problem right

off. What I feel moving and popping is the left SI joint. He also discovered

that since revision one of hips has rotated forward or one has rotated backward

or a little of both. So I am completely out of whack. Mark said I have buns of

cotton. So we'll work on building up strength in my core so Mark can rotate my

hips back into place and the muscles will hold them in place.

>

> Peggy

>

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

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My daughter was already recieving physical therapy for torticollis when we started the casting process.

Since we were already seeing the PT, she started helping Avery (my daughter), learn how to roll over, bend over, go up and down steps...etc.

I probably could have worked with her on my own, but it was nice to have a PT to help.

We stopped the PT shortly after, because Avery wasn't considered eligible for "First Steps" anymore, because she was no longer delayed.

But, it was nice while we had it.

Randi

From: Amber <amber@...>infantile scoliosis treatment Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:07 AMSubject: physical therapy

I have read on a few posts that some of you may have tried to use physical therapy along with casting...Can anyone tell me more about your experiance? I was thinking of looking into it as a means of both helping my son maintain muscle tone better while in cast & also to help him "re learn" how to do things in a cast. Of course I am planing on asking these questions to the doctor in SLC when we see him next week for his first cast but thought It might help to think this over a bit first.Thanks,Ambermommy to Levi

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PT is always good. I wish Liv would have gotten more of it as smaller

kid. Now, as a teen its like pulling teeth!

My daughter was already recieving physical therapy for torticollis when we

> started the casting process.

> Since we were already seeing the PT, she started helping Avery (my

> daughter), learn how to roll over, bend over, go up and down steps...etc.

> I probably could have worked with her on my own, but it was nice to have a

> PT to help.

>  

> We stopped the PT shortly after, because Avery wasn't considered eligible

> for " First Steps " anymore, because she was no longer delayed.

>  

> But, it was nice while we had it.

>  

> Randi

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Amber <amber@...>

> infantile scoliosis treatment

> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:07 AM

> Subject: physical therapy

>

>

>  

> I have read on a few posts that some of you may have tried to use physical

> therapy along with casting...Can anyone tell me more about your

> experiance? I was thinking of looking into it as a means of both helping

> my son maintain muscle tone better while in cast & also to help him " re

> learn " how to do things in a cast. Of course I am planing on asking these

> questions to the doctor in SLC when we see him next week for his first

> cast but thought It might help to think this over a bit first.

> Thanks,

> Amber

> mommy to Levi

>

>

>

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