Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 Dear Blessmyown, Dr. Hey has a few patients here, Peggy being one active here, along with I believe. To find past conversations on Dr. Hey and his practice, go to the main page of the site, go to MESSAGES, and in the SEARCH box, type in Dr. Hey, and up will come I bet a ton of past conversations. Colorado Springs [ ] Hey Clinic Does anyone have info on The Hey Clinic?Pro or con?Thank you for posting!Ccc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 and Donna, If you do Dr. Hey it seems to only show those that pertain to Dr. Hey, slims it down a bit, still a ton of posts. Colorado Springs [ ] Hey Clinic Does anyone have info on The Hey Clinic?Pro or con?Thank you for posting!Ccc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 i like their mission and i wold ask if they do flatback surgery if you need that otherwise if ilive out east i go there Donna 310-595-6462 From: blessmyown@...Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 05:16:30 +0000Subject: [ ] Hey Clinic Does anyone have info on The Hey Clinic?Pro or con?Thank you for posting!Ccc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 yes dr hey looks great good outlook and holds a great mission to help with patient care not about the money has many happy patients Donna 310-595-6462 From: .Kirkaldie@...Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:30:37 -0700Subject: Re: [ ] Hey Clinic Dear Blessmyown, Dr. Hey has a few patients here, Peggy being one active here, along with I believe. To find past conversations on Dr. Hey and his practice, go to the main page of the site, go to MESSAGES, and in the SEARCH box, type in Dr. Hey, and up will come I bet a ton of past conversations. Colorado Springs [ ] Hey Clinic Does anyone have info on The Hey Clinic?Pro or con?Thank you for posting!Ccc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 If you decide to search for previous conversations regarding The Hey Clinic, I'd suggest using "Raleigh" as a search term. I tried searching using "Hey" and it picked up all posts that had the word hey, including when someone was saying "hey there"! I then typed in Raleigh and it narrowed it down a lot, though it still picked up posts that had the word Raleigh but not related to The Hey Clinic....which is in Raleigh, NC, as I guess you figured out from their web site. G in NC ---- Original Message ----- From: blessmyown Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 1:16 AM Subject: [ ] Hey Clinic Does anyone have info on The Hey Clinic?Pro or con?Thank you for posting!Ccc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Ccc, I wonder if you can fill us in more on where you are on your journey? Your last posts indicated you were looking into surgeons up in Michigan, and then a female doctor. Have you moved? I ask for several reasons....but mainly because I hate for this group to simply be or become a referral service for surgeons. I am very leary of the implications of anyone ever following anyones advice that comes from the internet...and we have had a recent spate of folks just asking this very pointed question about candidate surgeons, as you have. As I know you have been a long time member you realize that this is really a support group, which means that we share with each other all that we we have learned and also something of ourselves. It is a two way street. You should realize when asking a broad question as you have that generally speaking, if people have a positive experience they are likely to feel comfortable writing about it. Also, it is entirely possible to get a response wherein a patient feels like a doctor " walked on water " in the months following surgery when a patient can be in the post surgical " euphoria " stage. It is also possible that a patient may find they are are uncomfortable posting negative information, even when factual, for fear of repercussions. Lastly, I understand there are doctors out there who are making patients sign an agreement that they will not speak ill about their surgeon on-line, although I am not saying I believe this to be true of DrHey. These are just illustrative ways that what might seem like valid information may not be accurate or balanced. So, all that is to say that as suggested you really must do your own research, no matter what kind of responses you get to your question. When I was in my own quest for surgery after I narrowed down my candidate surgeons I went back and followed their patients as best I could from the group. Then I sent out private emails to the patients asking them if they would chat with me about their experiences. When agreed upon I would phone and talk to them. In addition I asked the surgeons themselves for some reference patients. Dr Hey maintains the most interactive website of the surgeons I am aware of, and that is something to note. I assume that Donna's comments, for instance, are indicative of her exposure to that portal of DrHey's. As I understand it, she has never consulted him in person or had him as her doctor. So please remember to verify, verify, verify " . And I mean everything. Make sure you understand who and where your data is coming from. Take Care, Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 I had surgery with Dr. Hey in May 2007. I was just released from his care. In my opinion, he is one of the best in North Carolina. If you have any questions, let me know. Peggy [ ] Hey Clinic Does anyone have info on The Hey Clinic?Pro or con?Thank you for posting!Ccc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Yikes! Lastly, I understand there are doctors out there who are making patients sign an agreement that they will not speak ill about their surgeon on-line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 I have also noticed that many people who did not have great outcomes from surgery still speak very highly of their doctors, even though they continue to be in pain. I know that when I was first considering revision surgery, it was the surgical outcomes that I paid more attention to. > > Ccc, > > I wonder if you can fill us in more on where you are on your journey? Your last posts indicated you were looking into surgeons up in Michigan, and then a female doctor. Have you moved? > > I ask for several reasons....but mainly because I hate for this group to simply be or become a referral service for surgeons. I am very leary of the implications of anyone ever following anyones advice that comes from the internet...and we have had a recent spate of folks just asking this very pointed question about candidate surgeons, as you have. As I know you have been a long time member you realize that this is really a support group, which means that we share with each other all that we we have learned and also something of ourselves. It is a two way street. > > You should realize when asking a broad question as you have that generally speaking, if people have a positive experience they are likely to feel comfortable writing about it. Also, it is entirely possible to get a response wherein a patient feels like a doctor " walked on water " in the months following surgery when a patient can be in the post surgical " euphoria " stage. It is also possible that a patient may find they are are uncomfortable posting negative information, even when factual, for fear of repercussions. Lastly, I understand there are doctors out there who are making patients sign an agreement that they will not speak ill about their surgeon on-line, although I am not saying I believe this to be true of DrHey. These are just illustrative ways that what might seem like valid information may not be accurate or balanced. > > So, all that is to say that as suggested you really must do your own research, no matter what kind of responses you get to your question. When I was in my own quest for surgery after I narrowed down my candidate surgeons I went back and followed their patients as best I could from the group. Then I sent out private emails to the patients asking them if they would chat with me about their experiences. When agreed upon I would phone and talk to them. In addition I asked the surgeons themselves for some reference patients. > > Dr Hey maintains the most interactive website of the surgeons I am aware of, and that is something to note. I assume that Donna's comments, for instance, are indicative of her exposure to that portal of DrHey's. As I understand it, she has never consulted him in person or had him as her doctor. So please remember to verify, verify, verify " . And I mean everything. Make sure you understand who and where your data is coming from. > > Take Care, Cam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Wow , I am so sorry for what you've gone through. It seems to me that the least they could have done, if they truly feel there's nothing more to be done about your pain, is to make sure you're eligible for disability. I'm so glad that you found a pain doc who at least salvaged that. Do you have plans to see anyone else? -- > > > > Ccc, > > > > I wonder if you can fill us in more on where you are on your journey? Your last posts indicated you were looking into surgeons up in Michigan, and then a female doctor. Have you moved? > > > > I ask for several reasons....but mainly because I hate for this group to simply be or become a referral service for surgeons. I am very leary of the implications of anyone ever following anyones advice that comes from the internet...and we have had a recent spate of folks just asking this very pointed question about candidate surgeons, as you have. As I know you have been a long time member you realize that this is really a support group, which means that we share with each other all that we we have learned and also something of ourselves. It is a two way street. > > > > You should realize when asking a broad question as you have that generally speaking, if people have a positive experience they are likely to feel comfortable writing about it. Also, it is entirely possible to get a response wherein a patient feels like a doctor " walked on water " in the months following surgery when a patient can be in the post surgical " euphoria " stage. It is also possible that a patient may find they are are uncomfortable posting negative information, even when factual, for fear of repercussions. Lastly, I understand there are doctors out there who are making patients sign an agreement that they will not speak ill about their surgeon on-line, although I am not saying I believe this to be true of DrHey. These are just illustrative ways that what might seem like valid information may not be accurate or balanced. > > > > So, all that is to say that as suggested you really must do your own research, no matter what kind of responses you get to your question. When I was in my own quest for surgery after I narrowed down my candidate surgeons I went back and followed their patients as best I could from the group. Then I sent out private emails to the patients asking them if they would chat with me about their experiences. When agreed upon I would phone and talk to them. In addition I asked the surgeons themselves for some reference patients. > > > > Dr Hey maintains the most interactive website of the surgeons I am aware of, and that is something to note. I assume that Donna's comments, for instance, are indicative of her exposure to that portal of DrHey's. As I understand it, she has never consulted him in person or had him as her doctor. So please remember to verify, verify, verify " . And I mean everything. Make sure you understand who and where your data is coming from. > > > > Take Care, Cam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 HI Cam, I think the points you made are so important. Thanks for taking the time to keep us all on track. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 HI Donna, Revision surgery for Flatback has been around longer than 6 years. I had my revision surgery on Dec 2, 1997, 11 1/2 years ago. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 I agree. And what a strange thing to ask a patient - is it even legal to require them to limit their freedom of speech on their surgery outcome? It would make me leery - like the surgeon maybe had several bad outcomes and doesn't want the bad publicity. I personally would want to hear both the good and bad outcomes that a surgeon has. It's such a delicate and precise operation that there are bound to be some bad outcomes, or even patients who are disgruntled because they had unrealistic expectations. To not want people badmouthing you is one thing, but to not allow a patient to talk about a bad outcome seems wrong. > Lastly, I understand there are doctors out there who are making patients sign an agreement that they will not speak ill about their surgeon on-line > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 , You have written a very full and clear account of you experience and it is exactly the kind of perspective that offers patients the kind of picture that will help them evaluate a surgeon. It will help them to form the questions that they need answered and give them the courage to ask the tough questions. I don't see anything slanderous in your telling us what happened to you. You said " When it comes to level of satisfaction/success/bedside manner/trust/complications/truth AND life and quality of, after revision surgery, relationship with the doctor and staff, treatment and care at a hospital, and success or not - and who defines what is success, etc., etc., etc. - I guess it is in the eye of the beholder? " . My opinion is that you are correct. A surgeon may be the kind of doctor who considers it his/her responsibility to execute a procedure or set of procedures and not be to concerned with the whole host of satellite problems that seem to coexist for most of us older HR folks. They want to do the hacking, cutting and screwing together and then send our reworked bodies back to GP's who have no experience in our extensive surgery or its long recovery. If there are ongoing problems they may not be able to do much about them, and rather than acknowledge them and face potential litigation maybe they feel it is easier to try to just close the folder, so to speak. I was reminded in your story about your fluid in your lungs following surgery and how unusual they thought that was. Was there ever an explanation? I thought you attributed that to smoking right up until surgery...do you think there was another reason? A woman from another group passed away during primary scoli surgery about a year ago following complications of an improper central line where fluid was improperly fed in to her lungs and she essentially drowned, as I understood it. Very sad. Coincidentally the surgeon in that case is also the one who caused ie no end of grief and abandoned him down in Texas. Of course it is still possible to find patients of his who swear he is the best...even though he has never gotten them near the results he has promised. In any event....I do hope that you continue to feel that your situation has the potential to change. It may take more than a surgical fix...but the first thing that you can do is, as you said to ....see what else is out there for you. Thanks for sharing you perspective. Take Care, Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 HI , I saw Dr. Bridwell about 8 years after Dr. Boachie did my Flatback revision surgery. I called Dr. Bridwell's office, told them what surgeries I had and by whom and that I was still having pain and wanted to see Dr. Bridwell. That's all it took to get an appointment. If you want to see Dr. Bridwell, all you need to do is call, tell the receptionist the surgeries you had and by whom and that you are still in pain and want to see Dr. Bridwell. You do not need to go into any detail about what Dr. Hey did or didn't do and how you feel about Dr. Hey. That doesn't serve any purpose, really. You will need to bring your most current x-rays and whatever other records you have. I happened to have a CT Scan and brought that with me. Good Luck Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Donna, I am not a medical person so I haven't any idea as to what might have been the source of s fluid problem....that is what I was asking her! As to worrying about finding a doctor who knows how to treat you down the road, my thinking is that if you find a doctor who knows how to treat you in the present, you are not going to need such a long term relationship with a surgeon in the future. I asked both DrRand and Boachie about their worst outcomes and I didn't feel it was improper at all. I wanted to understand what had happened and why so I could get a feel for what kinds of problems might crop up following surgery. I don't mean to be cryptic about doctors, and I don't think there is a need to be. The Dr in Texas that I spoke of was DrShelokov, and in fairness to him, while the patient was his and he was doing the surgery which resulted in her erroneously placed central line, it would had been the anesthetist who made the actual error. I was also not speaking of DrBridwell. Take Care, Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Hi Donna, I guess I wasn't clear enough. I saw Dr. Bridwell once, in 2006. He assured me that my 8 year old revision surgery was solid and strong and that further surgical intervention was not warranted. That was a relief to me and I turned to pain management for help with my ongoing pain. I have a wonderful pain management doc. The combination of my Flatback revision surgery and proper pain management for ongoing pain have given me a very good quality of life. I am doing very well! Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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