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G'day Alan

LDN has not affected my blood pressure. I have very low blood pressure due

to cardiomyopothy and it has not chnaged after almost a year on LDN.

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> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 03:46:57 -0000

> From: " alanms1579 " <alanms@...>

>Subject: LDN and Blood Pressure

>

>Anyone noticed a change in blood pressure using LDN? If so is it

>higher or lower than your norm?

>

>Anyone taken any supplements that have resulted in low blood

>pressure?

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>Thanks

>Alan

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> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 04:46:19 -0000

> From: " Friday " <paraschick@...>

>Subject: Re: LDN and Blood Pressure

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>Alan, with or without LDN, my blood pressure has remained normal

>range.

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>I dont take supplements

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>Hope this helps

>Friday

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>--- In low dose naltrexone , " alanms1579 " <alanms@c...>

>wrote:

> > Anyone noticed a change in blood pressure using LDN? If so is it

> > higher or lower than your norm?

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> > Anyone taken any supplements that have resulted in low blood

> > pressure?

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> > Thanks

> > Alan

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Interesting because the blood pressure in question is what mine has been most of my adult life (the person questioning it doesn't know ours are the same). I have never had trouble standing or blacking out. In fact I was told it was the blood pressure of a 12 year old and I was 53 at the time!

Thanks for the response - Shari

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From: Kathy L

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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:30 PM

Subject: Re: blood pressure

Mine used to hover around 90/60 and it really can be scarey. I used to black out almost to the point of passing out when I moved too fast. I couldn't stand very long or I would get dizzy and I got tired and out of breath really easy.

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From: SV

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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 5:21 PM

Subject: blood pressure

Talk to me about blood pressure! Someone is bemoaning the fact her blood pressure is 108/60 and I think that is perfectly acceptable.

What's your thoughts????

Thanks, Shari

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Mine is generally that or lower. (The first number may be lower sometimes, not the second.) I've never had a problem with it.

Sure is better than high!

Sharyn

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Someone is bemoaning the fact her blood pressure is 108/60 and I think that is perfectly acceptable.

What's your thoughts????

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On 9/16/05, Suzanne <suziesgoats@...> wrote:

Medical guidelines state that a normal blood pressure for most adults is less than 120/80 Drug treatment is recommended if your blood pressure is at or above 140/90 mm

Wow. I beg to differ. Drug treatment? There are herbs to help with blood pressure. My family has a history of high blood pressure. I tend to at the tender age of 58, so I got one of those pressure cuffs so you can measure at home. For a while I was taking a hiatus from daily herbs, and my pressure did go up. Now I religiously take my hawthorne and potassium, which right now, keeps it lower. I'm positive there are more herbs for high blood pressure, aka hypertension. There's no way I will take a pill to keep the pressure down unless there is no other route. Actually, I'm kind of surprised that you didn't mention " go on a detox fast " ! LOL. <Good intentions there.> 8-)

Losing the weight will help. Quietly working on that one. Life style changes. Little changes make a big difference, but the best one, for me anyway, was taking the hawthorne and potassium again.

LynnIt's not knowing what the answer or solution will be, but simply knowing that there is one, that brings it forth.

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Sorry Lynn, was not implying any one take drugs... (God forbid)... I was just stating what the medical profession concludes is normal and what they do when it is higher... sorry for that.

No, I would go to garlic and juice fast if mine were up... and raw... My parents and grand parents had/have HBP..... I vowed not to... and what you convince the mind convinces the body... mine has always been great. If I could just get this thru to my folks.

Suzi

Lynn <mrningdw@...> wrote:

On 9/16/05, Suzanne <suziesgoats@...> wrote:

Medical guidelines state that a normal blood pressure for most adults is less than 120/80 Drug treatment is recommended if your blood pressure is at or above 140/90 mm

Wow. I beg to differ. Drug treatment? There are herbs to help with blood pressure. My family has a history of high blood pressure. I tend to at the tender age of 58, so I got one of those pressure cuffs so you can measure at home. For a while I was taking a hiatus from daily herbs, and my pressure did go up. Now I religiously take my hawthorne and potassium, which right now, keeps it lower. I'm positive there are more herbs for high blood pressure, aka hypertension. There's no way I will take a pill to keep the pressure down unless there is no other route. __________________________________________________

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Yeah.....I don't think that even the MD profession is recommending

drugs for those numbers anymore...that's only a mild HBP reading.

Lifestyle changes, thank goodness, are recommended now....sometimes

diuretics. It's serious above 179/114.

Using a lancet to prick the apex of the ear, for a drop of blood, is

one treatment for HBP.

Kit

> >

> > Medical guidelines state that a *normal blood pressure* for most

adults

> > is less than 120/80 Drug treatment is recommended if your *blood

pressure*is at or above 140/90 mm

> >

> Wow. I beg to differ. Drug treatment? There are herbs to help with

blood

> pressure. My family has a history of high blood pressure. I tend to

at the

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> I actually once had a reading of 90/0 – yes, zero! I couldn't

>believe it – they actually took my blood pressure about 3 or 4 times,

>but there was no reading. Scary!

Faulty cuff!! and/or....stethoscope!! and/or....technician!!!

;-) Kit

> From: " SV " <shavig@p...>

> Talk to me about blood pressure! Someone is bemoaning the fact her

blood

> pressure is 108/60 ===============================

>

> I normally have very low blood pressure also. So far it has not

been too

> much of a problem for me, except if I bend over and then stand up,

> everything goes black for a few seconds. I have never fainted

though (but

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thanks to all who replied. I have been to the doctors office many of

times ( for other medical problems ) and my blood pressure is always

normal. even when i was in the hospital in october and november my

blood pressure was never that high, thats why they want me to get it

checked out. i have been to the doctors frequently about my kidneys.

they keep testing me for kidney stones, but nothing shows up. but

sometimes i get strong pains in the lower part of my back and it makes

it where i can barely move. some people think that it is my kidneys....

so that could be a possibility. well, i'm going to the doctor on friday

or monday about the thyroid blood work, and to talk about my blood

pressure, so then i might find out. thanks to all!

- megan

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Amber,

Thanks so much. I also use the RESPERATE which helps a lot, but it has to be

used regularly. On salt, I personally cannot handle either regular or Celtic Sea

Salt. I use Kelp. Other than that, I agree with West and Lark. Calcium is

important as is magnesium.

I've started taking the Beta Foods which I picked up yesterday afternoon at the

Apothecary here in Bethesda. I bought the small bottle as I want to be sure I am

not allergic to anything in it.

Thanks again,

Eleanor

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From: amber@...

gallstones

Sent: Sun, 6 May 2007 10:18 AM

Subject: Blood pressure

>Amber,

Did you get the Blood Pressure issue by Dr. Bruce West. What were his

recommendations to lower blood pressure? that is, if it is not too detailed. Is

there one supplement or food that stands out? Thanks, Eleanor>

I have many, many issues pertaining to blood pressure, so I'll go through them

and just type some highlights here. Comments from Dr. Bruce West:

By simply reducing salt and exercising, at least a third of Americans over age

60 can get off their blood pressure drugs. Stop eating processed foods (this

will reduce your salt by 50% or more). Use only Celtic Sea Salt. (I buy sea salt

from a health food store).

Most drugs only mask symptoms and create problems. They haven't saved lives

because they never cured high BP. BP drugs can diminish brain function in older

adults. They can induce brain and memory problems.

There is no evidence that high BP drugs prevent heart disease, strokes, or

deaths.

Doctors don't have any idea how to advise their patients who want to quit

calcium channel blockers (I'm on that due to Tachycardia) due to side effects

(like congestive heart failure).

After reading through many of his newsletters, basically he is saying to

exercise and use sea salt. I looked through information I have from M.

Lark, M.D. and this is what she says:

Eat a healthy diet that is loaded with fiber, fresh vegetables and fruits,

cold-water fish, walnuts and ground flax. Cook with onions, garlic, olive or

canola oil instead of salt and butter. Avoid red meat and dairy products. Take

digestive aides such as bromelain. Walk briskly at least 20 minutes, three times

a week. Reduce stress.

Ok, from what these two people say, basically it's diet and exercise and no Rx

drugs. I've read elsewhere that extra magnesium also helps.

Amber

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Amber,

I do not think we differ at all. I take Miraculous Magnesium twice a day, that

is addition to my multi. I recognize the importance of magnesium to relaxing the

arteries etc.

Eleanor

-----Original Message-----

From: amber@...

gallstones

Sent: Sun, 6 May 2007 4:47 PM

Subject: Re: Blood pressure

I have to beg to differ with you about calcium and magnesium. Magi is much

more important. Most people get too much cal and then end up with arthritis.

Most vit/min supplements have the wrong combination. Some up-to-date companies

are finally putting more magi than cal in their supplements.

Amber

Amber,

Thanks so much. I also use the RESPERATE which helps a lot, but it has to be

used regularly. On salt, I personally cannot handle either regular or Celtic Sea

Salt. I use Kelp. Other than that, I agree with West and Lark. Calcium is

important as is magnesium.

.

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I also take magnesium twice a day in addition to my multi. I have a friend who

now has kidney stones from taking TOO much calcium.

Amber

Amber,

I do not think we differ at all. I take Miraculous Magnesium twice a day, that

is addition to my multi. I recognize the importance of magnesium to relaxing the

arteries etc.

Eleanor

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Hi

I thought your comments were interesting-the relaxing of the arteries-as it

does make sense that as we age the arteries do become hardened so the

" relaxation " idea seems feasible. I take Country Life (4 caps/day) give me

Calicum 1000 mg-Magnesium 500 mg with Vit D 400 IU Complex in addition to Vit

D-3 2000 mg. So my question to you is how much Magnesium does one need as a

thearputic dose to effect blood pressure adequately-I am pressed for answers

myself. Thanks again for posting. Where does one get Miraculous Magnesium. As

a side note: I drink 2 tbls. ofdandeline tea/day to counteract fluid retention

and no salt in my diet.

Msewarner@... wrote:

Amber,

I do not think we differ at all. I take Miraculous Magnesium twice a day, that

is addition to my multi. I recognize the importance of magnesium to relaxing the

arteries etc.

Eleanor

-----Original Message-----

From: amber@...

gallstones

Sent: Sun, 6 May 2007 4:47 PM

Subject: Re: Blood pressure

I have to beg to differ with you about calcium and magnesium. Magi is much more

important. Most people get too much cal and then end up with arthritis. Most

vit/min supplements have the wrong combination. Some up-to-date companies are

finally putting more magi than cal in their supplements.

Amber

Amber,

Thanks so much. I also use the RESPERATE which helps a lot, but it has to be

used regularly. On salt, I personally cannot handle either regular or Celtic Sea

Salt. I use Kelp. Other than that, I agree with West and Lark. Calcium is

important as is magnesium.

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Yes, it's called Catalyn. Minerals are separate. Organic Minerals or Min-Tran.

Amber,

Does Standard Process have a multi? I really like the Beta Foods. Thanks,

Eleanor

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I read that Magnesium needs to be taken separately from calcium, so if you have

a cal/mag supplement, it might help to take magnesium by itself a couple of

hours afterwards. Google Miraculous Magnesium. I first got it from my doctor (an

MD who is also alternative). You should also google magnesium and read up the

literature. I understand from my research that we can take quite a bit of

magenesium. If we get diarrhoea then cut down the dosage.

Did you say that you drink 2 tablespoons of dandelion tea? How does that work?

Do you boil the tea from fresh dandelions or do you drink a tincture? Dandelion

is great for the liver too.

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----

From: sabinavega1@...

gallstones

Sent: Mon, 7 May 2007 8:15 PM

Subject: Re: Blood pressure

Hi

I thought your comments were interesting-the relaxing of the arteries-as it

does make sense that as we age the arteries do become hardened so the

" relaxation " idea seems feasible. I take Country Life (4 caps/day) give me

Calicum 1000 mg-Magnesium 500 mg with Vit D 400 IU Complex in addition to Vit

D-3 2000 mg. So my question to you is how much Magnesium does one need as a

thearputic dose to effect blood pressure adequately-I am pressed for answers

myself. Thanks again for posting. Where does one get Miraculous Magnesium. As a

side note: I drink 2 tbls. ofdandeline tea/day to counteract fluid retention and

no salt in my diet.

Msewarner@... wrote:

Amber,

I do not think we differ at all. I take Miraculous Magnesium twice a day, that

is addition to my multi. I recognize the importance of magnesium to relaxing the

arteries etc.

Eleanor

-----Original Message-----

From: amber@...

gallstones

Sent: Sun, 6 May 2007 4:47 PM

Subject: Re: Blood pressure

I have to beg to differ with you about calcium and magnesium. Magi is much more

important. Most people get too much cal and then end up with arthritis. Most

vit/min supplements have the wrong combination. Some up-to-date companies are

finally putting more magi than cal in their supplements.

Amber

Amber,

Thanks so much. I also use the RESPERATE which helps a lot, but it has to be

used regularly. On salt, I personally cannot handle either regular or Celtic Sea

Salt. I use Kelp. Other than that, I agree with West and Lark. Calcium is

important as is magnesium.

.

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Thanks. I will check into the multi and minerals.

-----Original Message-----

From: amber@...

gallstones

Sent: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:10 PM

Subject: Re: Blood pressure

Yes, it's called Catalyn. Minerals are separate. Organic Minerals or

Min-Tran.

Amber,

Does Standard Process have a multi? I really like the Beta Foods. Thanks,

Eleanor

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