...

[Guest guest]

Colleen,

Aundrea was feeling a bit better this morning. She said she slept

all night long. I guess the cough syrup with hyrdrocodone did the

trick! :-) She still had a temp of 100 when she woke up but I

imagine it will take another day of antibiotics before that goes away.

Financially the urgent care probably did turn out better than the dr.

office. He detected the pneumonia just by listening to her lungs so

we didn't have to get labs or x-ray. The urgent care visit was just

$60 and the generic antibiotic and cough meds were $55. Not bad at

all. I had just better get moving on my application for health

insurance in case we do have to deal with some hospitalization or

emergency in the future.

I am so glad to hear that things have been going smoothly for

Caitlin. Maybe this new drug trial is the answer for her. What a

relief that the replacement surgery is on hold. She is so young and

I am sure the thought of such a surgery is hard to even fathom

dealing with at this point. Perhaps, a miracle will happen and that

surgery will just keep being put off!

I am sure that you are having a lovely relaxing time with your family

in Oregon. The best part of Christmas is good food and time with

family! :-)

God Bless,

(Aundrea 12 systemic jra/gerd)

> >

> > :

> > I hope she feels better soon. Mention to the ER that you have no

> insurance, most will work with you to make it affordable. Have you

> considered applying for " state " insurance for her. Most states have

> plans for minors.

> >

> > Please update when you can. Thinking and praying for you...

> >

> > Beth & Hannah, 11, unspecified arthritis; asthma; gerd; migraines

> >

> > Sending prayers & happy thoughts,

> > Beth :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > so frustrated

> >

> > Well, I have been trying all day to make an appointment for

Aundrea

> > without any luck. She is still running a temp of 101-102. This is

> > the 6th day of that and she also has a constant cough and

> occasional

> > headache and night sweats. The longer she is sick the more she

> > sounds just like my son, alex did last year when he had " walking

> > pneumonia " . So I left messages with the peds office this morning.

> > Noone returned my call. It was their lunch break. I call right

back

> > after lunch and leave a message. No return call. Then I get

through

> > to some answering service. They tell me the doc will call right

> > back, which didn't happen. So I call the office and low and

behold

> a

> > human answers the phone and says the doctors only worked til noon

> > today. I asked for the on-call doc and she said that he would

only

> > see Aundrea if she was Very sick. I told her that she had been

> > running a fever for 6 days and that I thought it might be

> pneumonia.

> > Then she says that I have to take Aundrea to the ER because she

is

> to

> > sick to bring to them. I ask why they can't just order a simple

lab

> > test or chest x-ray. She again says that she is to sick for them

to

> > care for in their office. I told her that last year when my son

had

> > pneumonia they treated him and ordered those same labs. She

> wouldn't

> > budge...just kept saying go to the er. Of course the docs are

> > probably wanting to close shop and head home for the holidays.

> >

> > So, now because I am without insurance I will be looking at a big

> ER

> > bill instead of a doctor visit. So frustrating. I should have

taken

> > her in before Friday but it took me this long to determine if it

> was

> > just a systemic flare, flu, or something that would require an

> > antibiotic.

> >

> > Thanks for letting me have a good vent. I will update later.

> >

> > sonia (aundrea 12 systemic jra/gerd)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi

I saw your original post last maybe an hour or so after you put it out

there. From my short time on the group and as a 2+ year seagoing doc I

didn't feel qualified to jump right in to the fire as it were. I was going

to ask if your situation was truly a ship type platform or a stationary rig.

I kind'a got the feeling it was a ship from the phrase " marine crew " as in

Deck Department (to me).

Knowing now the specs your working out of now, my 1st question would be, is

there any reinforcing or barriers between the helo deck and your sick bay?

Aviation fuel fires and explosions can be monsters for radiating heat

depending on the section of the helo deck involved (w/out barriers) you may

have to pull stuff out before they start cooling (Flooding) the bulkhead in

your space. As a contingency on the 3 vessels I've worked (1 120 meter

Bearing Sea Fish processor trawler & 2 US Navy sealift vessels), there has

been a Portable Mass Cal Box located away from sick bay. Primary role is if

sickbay is taken out (and worse if I am too) Its an oversized foot locker

supporting the idea of treating about 25 -30 persons. Burn care is a key

player given the amount of Silvadine stored in it. IV's, Bandages Suture

sets & even Quick Clot. Something to consider, if there isn't one in

existence already. I updated them to include a Medical Care in Remote

locations, an EMT-I manual, map of ALL the Emergancy medical Equipment

locations And a copy of all the Medical liaison ashore information numbers,

freqs, even the old international signals. (USCG & Navy inspectors thought

it was a nice touch.)

Any how back to your original question to the group (knowing there's a ship

involved).

Find out what the ship's Master and Chief mate believe is going to happen

expectation wise. That's where I've approached the chief mate about

integrating in to the planning mix. I get them to think " where's the

closest safest place for doc to start seeing multiple people. WITHOUT HAVING

TO RETEAT FROM IF IT GOES SOUTH!. Your already integrated into the drills it

sounds like.Find out who either by Station bill or Emergancy duties are

assigned to assist you as a litter team or aid person. I get the galley

staff. The ones and twos will go to sick bay by escort or litter team with

me leading that team.

Because all best laid plans when its big fall to sh*# after 5

min...therefore...

I reality, Initially, I personally plan for Custer's last stand. A space

to hold every stokes onboard-4 and 5 persons sitting along the wall.

Initially my 3 different level jump bags (one has an O2 tank and AED,

another is a US Navy IDC Bag) and a runner (for coms, handing me things from

my bags holding bodyparts). About the time I wipe those out I Hopefully

will have gotten the Mass Cal & Narc box (via the Master's Safe). These are

the few things I reiterate with the key players onboard. Quarterly.

God help you or anyone else for that matter having to deal with something

like that. It will be a living nightmare for Doc for the next 24 to 72 Hours

Shounder, RN/ MDR

Contract Medical Services Officer and Purser JA

Formerly USAF SERE School medic

[Guest guest]

, my apologies, no offence intended. This board is read by many people with

many

varied levels of experience or expertise. My comments are not directed at you

but are just

my opinion so that others can hear what the the various point of views exist and

why. My

point was to agree with the other writers remarks. A disaster is not a static

exercise but a

fluid situation. Given an actual situation the most qualified individual must

make an

assessment, incorporate this information into the existing pre-plan and then

move

forward from there. I would never attempt to come up with a plan for a facility

without

actually working at the site. The dynamics of each location are always

fundamentally

different and change from day to day. So my point is that the health care

provider, the

most qualified individual who understand what needs to be done, must make an

assessment. For example; Is there a fire and does that make it to dangerous for

you to be

in proximity of the event, is the clinic the best place to treat the patient(s),

are there

people trapped, will there be extended extrication, is the perceived access and

egress

damaged or blocked, is the situation so severe that you might lose the entire

site? A

provider then takes that information, applies that information to the known plan

and

maybe if your lucky your exercise will actually resemble your actual event. But

highly

unlikely, realistically it will require some major or minor tweaking. The

exercise identifies

roles so that people know what may be asked of them in the case of an actual

event. As

the health care provider you implement the plan or what ever variation you feel

will work

base on the known available situation.

Yes as the only provider you are asked to do way to much. But in a critical

situation time

is too valuable to wait for less experienced personnel to make decisions only

the health

care provider can make. This is just my opinion developed from spending over 25

years in

EMS in working in an urban, rural and remote environment. These opinions

evolved from

my experience working hundred of events, such as wilderness wild land fires,

(providing

care to firefighter and civilians), wilderness rescue in California and

Colorado, Loma Prieta

earthquake, Oakland Hill Fire, where I was the chief medical officer, working

with the US

Army, Coast Guard, Air Force, US HES Disaster medical teams, FEMA search and

rescue, the

deserts of the middle east and my current location in Africa.

> >

> > From: peter mitchell <treetop_bay@ ...>

> > Subject: [Remotemedics. co.uk] Emergency response...

> > @groups. com

> > Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 2:30 AM

> >

> > Dear all,

> >  

> > Here is an interesting point for discussion;

> >  

> > We have just had a drill with a helicopter crashing on the helideck - to cut

a

> > long story short my position is that in such a situation I would be setting

up

> > the emergency medical equipment in the area designated for such an emergency

> > ready to treat casualties as they arrive from the crash site...

> >  

> > The marine crew feel that I should be in the close vicinity of

> > the event with  a crash bag and portable oxygen treating casualties

while

> > also doing triage at the crash site...and sending them down to the

clinic.....?

> >  

> > My understanding from training courses is there should be 1 or 2 other non

> > medical people trained in triage who would be up there and sending

the selected

> > casualites down to the casualty station for treatment..

> >  

> > I do not feel it is the place of medical teams to put themselves close to

fires

> > to be treating casualties.

> >  

> > What is the opinion out there...?

> >  

> > P

> >

> > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger .

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

This is one of the best ideas for preparing for any disaster I can

imagine, personally. I am personally very pessimistic about the

outcome of any major disaster on most remote locations, particularly

any sort of helicopter crash, and I do not feel many of the discussed

ideas or plans will be implemented well (if at all.) However, this is

one of the items that usually comes up on most sites (a mass casualty

kit in an appropriate location) but is often one item that is never

acted on. They are usually willing to spend thousands of dollars

ensuring that the AFFF system is working, with good foam, etc, but not

a lesser amount of money on medical supplies.

Austin

On Aug 18, 2008, at 6:32 AM, nicole shounder wrote:

> Hi

>

> I saw your original post last maybe an hour or so after you put it out

> there. From my short time on the group and as a 2+ year seagoing doc I

> didn't feel qualified to jump right in to the fire as it were. I was

> going

> to ask if your situation was truly a ship type platform or a

> stationary rig.

> I kind'a got the feeling it was a ship from the phrase " marine crew "

> as in

> Deck Department (to me).

>

> Knowing now the specs your working out of now, my 1st question would

> be, is

> there any reinforcing or barriers between the helo deck and your

> sick bay?

> Aviation fuel fires and explosions can be monsters for radiating heat

> depending on the section of the helo deck involved (w/out barriers)

> you may

> have to pull stuff out before they start cooling (Flooding) the

> bulkhead in

> your space. As a contingency on the 3 vessels I've worked (1 120 meter

> Bearing Sea Fish processor trawler & 2 US Navy sealift vessels),

> there has

> been a Portable Mass Cal Box located away from sick bay. Primary

> role is if

> sickbay is taken out (and worse if I am too) Its an oversized foot

> locker

> supporting the idea of treating about 25 -30 persons. Burn care is a

> key

> player given the amount of Silvadine stored in it. IV's, Bandages

> Suture

> sets & even Quick Clot. Something to consider, if there isn't one in

> existence already. I updated them to include a Medical Care in Remote

> locations, an EMT-I manual, map of ALL the Emergancy medical Equipment

> locations And a copy of all the Medical liaison ashore information

> numbers,

> freqs, even the old international signals. (USCG & Navy inspectors

> thought

> it was a nice touch.)

>

> Any how back to your original question to the group (knowing there's

> a ship

> involved).

>

> Find out what the ship's Master and Chief mate believe is going to

> happen

> expectation wise. That's where I've approached the chief mate about

> integrating in to the planning mix. I get them to think " where's the

> closest safest place for doc to start seeing multiple people.

> WITHOUT HAVING

> TO RETEAT FROM IF IT GOES SOUTH!. Your already integrated into the

> drills it

> sounds like.Find out who either by Station bill or Emergancy duties

> are

> assigned to assist you as a litter team or aid person. I get the

> galley

> staff. The ones and twos will go to sick bay by escort or litter

> team with

> me leading that team.

>

> Because all best laid plans when its big fall to sh*# after 5

> min...therefore...

>

> I reality, Initially, I personally plan for Custer's last stand. A

> space

> to hold every stokes onboard-4 and 5 persons sitting along the wall.

> Initially my 3 different level jump bags (one has an O2 tank and AED,

> another is a US Navy IDC Bag) and a runner (for coms, handing me

> things from

> my bags holding bodyparts). About the time I wipe those out I

> Hopefully

> will have gotten the Mass Cal & Narc box (via the Master's Safe).

> These are

> the few things I reiterate with the key players onboard. Quarterly.

>

> God help you or anyone else for that matter having to deal with

> something

> like that. It will be a living nightmare for Doc for the next 24 to

> 72 Hours

>

> Shounder, RN/ MDR

>

> Contract Medical Services Officer and Purser JA

>

> Formerly USAF SERE School medic

>

[Guest guest]

Thank You Austin.

Re reading my post. The only think I wish to clarify was the part about the

1's and 2's and escorting or litter team to sick bay. that was referring to

any incident where that's the only number of injured. I have delt with heat

related incidents from fire drills and also would ask (in planning phase)

for a victim in living space location drills. I'm sure in the oil industry

(verses other maritime related business) you have enough actual injury

incidents that aspect of training up isn't an issue.

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of A Austin

Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: ...

This is one of the best ideas for preparing for any disaster I can

imagine, personally. I am personally very pessimistic about the

outcome of any major disaster on most remote locations, particularly

any sort of helicopter crash, and I do not feel many of the discussed

ideas or plans will be implemented well (if at all.) However, this is

one of the items that usually comes up on most sites (a mass casualty

kit in an appropriate location) but is often one item that is never

acted on. They are usually willing to spend thousands of dollars

ensuring that the AFFF system is working, with good foam, etc, but not

a lesser amount of money on medical supplies.

Austin

On Aug 18, 2008, at 6:32 AM, nicole shounder wrote:

> Hi

>

> I saw your original post last maybe an hour or so after you put it out

> there. From my short time on the group and as a 2+ year seagoing doc I

> didn't feel qualified to jump right in to the fire as it were. I was

> going

> to ask if your situation was truly a ship type platform or a

> stationary rig.

> I kind'a got the feeling it was a ship from the phrase " marine crew "

> as in

> Deck Department (to me).

>

> Knowing now the specs your working out of now, my 1st question would

> be, is

> there any reinforcing or barriers between the helo deck and your

> sick bay?

> Aviation fuel fires and explosions can be monsters for radiating heat

> depending on the section of the helo deck involved (w/out barriers)

> you may

> have to pull stuff out before they start cooling (Flooding) the

> bulkhead in

> your space. As a contingency on the 3 vessels I've worked (1 120 meter

> Bearing Sea Fish processor trawler & 2 US Navy sealift vessels),

> there has

> been a Portable Mass Cal Box located away from sick bay. Primary

> role is if

> sickbay is taken out (and worse if I am too) Its an oversized foot

> locker

> supporting the idea of treating about 25 -30 persons. Burn care is a

> key

> player given the amount of Silvadine stored in it. IV's, Bandages

> Suture

> sets & even Quick Clot. Something to consider, if there isn't one in

> existence already. I updated them to include a Medical Care in Remote

> locations, an EMT-I manual, map of ALL the Emergancy medical Equipment

> locations And a copy of all the Medical liaison ashore information

> numbers,

> freqs, even the old international signals. (USCG & Navy inspectors

> thought

> it was a nice touch.)

>

> Any how back to your original question to the group (knowing there's

> a ship

> involved).

>

> Find out what the ship's Master and Chief mate believe is going to

> happen

> expectation wise. That's where I've approached the chief mate about

> integrating in to the planning mix. I get them to think " where's the

> closest safest place for doc to start seeing multiple people.

> WITHOUT HAVING

> TO RETEAT FROM IF IT GOES SOUTH!. Your already integrated into the

> drills it

> sounds like.Find out who either by Station bill or Emergancy duties

> are

> assigned to assist you as a litter team or aid person. I get the

> galley

> staff. The ones and twos will go to sick bay by escort or litter

> team with

> me leading that team.

>

> Because all best laid plans when its big fall to sh*# after 5

> min...therefore...

>

> I reality, Initially, I personally plan for Custer's last stand. A

> space

> to hold every stokes onboard-4 and 5 persons sitting along the wall.

> Initially my 3 different level jump bags (one has an O2 tank and AED,

> another is a US Navy IDC Bag) and a runner (for coms, handing me

> things from

> my bags holding bodyparts). About the time I wipe those out I

> Hopefully

> will have gotten the Mass Cal & Narc box (via the Master's Safe).

> These are

> the few things I reiterate with the key players onboard. Quarterly.

>

> God help you or anyone else for that matter having to deal with

> something

> like that. It will be a living nightmare for Doc for the next 24 to

> 72 Hours

>

> Shounder, RN/ MDR

>

> Contract Medical Services Officer and Purser JA

>

> Formerly USAF SERE School medic

>

[Guest guest]

You might be surprised. It's hit or miss depending on your site and

the number of personnel you have. I would actually expect that you saw

more medical incidents/treatments on a fish processing vessel far

exceeded the number that many see just based on POB and the work being

done.

I imagine everyone's situation is unique, and I have never really been

satisfied with the amount of training that has been done medically,

but it's a hard act to juggle, because with the usual medical staff

being the galley crew (_the_ hardest working people on any job, in my

opinion), every hour of medical training you do is often an hour of

free time for them lost.

Of course, I'm not exactly satisfied with the amount of medical

training -I've- done in the last year or two, either, so it's a two

way street. Working primarily safety, you push back some of the

medical stuff, and pretty soon you start to wonder if you'd be a help

or a liability on an ambulance anymore. Doing primary care on a rig or

ship is one thing, but I do realize that I am not at my prime with

emergency care. It hasn't been an issue in the few times in the past,

but it has brought me to the conclusion that just about everyone can

always use more training--it's just a matter of finding the time,

energy and possibly money.

Austin

On Aug 18, 2008, at 8:34 PM, nicole shounder wrote:

> Thank You Austin.

>

> Re reading my post. The only think I wish to clarify was the part

> about the

> 1's and 2's and escorting or litter team to sick bay. that was

> referring to

> any incident where that's the only number of injured. I have delt

> with heat

> related incidents from fire drills and also would ask (in planning

> phase)

> for a victim in living space location drills. I'm sure in the oil

> industry

> (verses other maritime related business) you have enough actual injury

> incidents that aspect of training up isn't an issue.

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of A Austin

> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:08 AM

>

> Subject: Re: ...

>

> This is one of the best ideas for preparing for any disaster I can

> imagine, personally. I am personally very pessimistic about the

> outcome of any major disaster on most remote locations, particularly

> any sort of helicopter crash, and I do not feel many of the discussed

> ideas or plans will be implemented well (if at all.) However, this is

> one of the items that usually comes up on most sites (a mass casualty

> kit in an appropriate location) but is often one item that is never

> acted on. They are usually willing to spend thousands of dollars

> ensuring that the AFFF system is working, with good foam, etc, but not

> a lesser amount of money on medical supplies.

>

> Austin

>

> On Aug 18, 2008, at 6:32 AM, nicole shounder wrote:

>

> > Hi

> >

> > I saw your original post last maybe an hour or so after you put it

> out

> > there. From my short time on the group and as a 2+ year seagoing

> doc I

> > didn't feel qualified to jump right in to the fire as it were. I was

> > going

> > to ask if your situation was truly a ship type platform or a

> > stationary rig.

> > I kind'a got the feeling it was a ship from the phrase " marine crew "

> > as in

> > Deck Department (to me).

> >

> > Knowing now the specs your working out of now, my 1st question would

> > be, is

> > there any reinforcing or barriers between the helo deck and your

> > sick bay?

> > Aviation fuel fires and explosions can be monsters for radiating

> heat

> > depending on the section of the helo deck involved (w/out barriers)

> > you may

> > have to pull stuff out before they start cooling (Flooding) the

> > bulkhead in

> > your space. As a contingency on the 3 vessels I've worked (1 120

> meter

> > Bearing Sea Fish processor trawler & 2 US Navy sealift vessels),

> > there has

> > been a Portable Mass Cal Box located away from sick bay. Primary

> > role is if

> > sickbay is taken out (and worse if I am too) Its an oversized foot

> > locker

> > supporting the idea of treating about 25 -30 persons. Burn care is a

> > key

> > player given the amount of Silvadine stored in it. IV's, Bandages

> > Suture

> > sets & even Quick Clot. Something to consider, if there isn't one in

> > existence already. I updated them to include a Medical Care in

> Remote

> > locations, an EMT-I manual, map of ALL the Emergancy medical

> Equipment

> > locations And a copy of all the Medical liaison ashore information

> > numbers,

> > freqs, even the old international signals. (USCG & Navy inspectors

> > thought

> > it was a nice touch.)

> >

> > Any how back to your original question to the group (knowing there's

> > a ship

> > involved).

> >

> > Find out what the ship's Master and Chief mate believe is going to

> > happen

> > expectation wise. That's where I've approached the chief mate about

> > integrating in to the planning mix. I get them to think " where's the

> > closest safest place for doc to start seeing multiple people.

> > WITHOUT HAVING

> > TO RETEAT FROM IF IT GOES SOUTH!. Your already integrated into the

> > drills it

> > sounds like.Find out who either by Station bill or Emergancy duties

> > are

> > assigned to assist you as a litter team or aid person. I get the

> > galley

> > staff. The ones and twos will go to sick bay by escort or litter

> > team with

> > me leading that team.

> >

> > Because all best laid plans when its big fall to sh*# after 5

> > min...therefore...

> >

> > I reality, Initially, I personally plan for Custer's last stand. A

> > space

> > to hold every stokes onboard-4 and 5 persons sitting along the wall.

> > Initially my 3 different level jump bags (one has an O2 tank and

> AED,

> > another is a US Navy IDC Bag) and a runner (for coms, handing me

> > things from

> > my bags holding bodyparts). About the time I wipe those out I

> > Hopefully

> > will have gotten the Mass Cal & Narc box (via the Master's Safe).

> > These are

> > the few things I reiterate with the key players onboard. Quarterly.

> >

> > God help you or anyone else for that matter having to deal with

> > something

> > like that. It will be a living nightmare for Doc for the next 24 to

> > 72 Hours

> >

> > Shounder, RN/ MDR

> >

> > Contract Medical Services Officer and Purser JA

> >

> > Formerly USAF SERE School medic

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi nne

Wow, I never did update the group regarding my daughter's delivery, did

I? I so apologize for that!!

She was born 10/30/08 and weighed 8 lbs 13 ozs. Everything turned out

wonderful. The cystic hygroma

that they were concerned with stopped growing during the pregnancy

(which they were keeping an eye on via sonograms). They couldn't be

100% sure until she was born but all that she ended up with was like a

" fat roll " at the back of her neck where the growth started. They think

it will eventually kind of disappear

as she grows. In fact, I think it looks smaller already. The baby fell

into a very rare group of children that

this happens to (it stops growing and disapates). We are so very

blessed!! When they first spotted the problem

at 6 weeks along the outlook was NOT good. Typically children with a

cystic hygroma end up with Downs

Syndrome, Syndrome, or heart problems. A lot of them don't even

make it to " term " or need immediate

surgery after birth (if they survive). It was a very scary time for all

of us and at one point my daughter and SIL

had to decide whether to continue with the pregnancy or abort. VERY

STRESSFUL!! But once she went

through different tests in the 3rd - 4th month they were able to rule

out the Downs Syndrome, Syndrome

and heart problems. But these cystic hygromas can grown to quite a huge

size and we saw some very scary

pictures on the internet. We got to the point where we couldn't even go

on the internet researching because it

was too upsetting.

Anyway, her name is Makenna . I cried when they told me she was

being named after me. They kept it

a secret from me but everyone else in the family knew. I'll have to try

and post some pictures of her in our group files.

Thanks for asking and reminding me of my stupidity of forgetting to fill

you guys in. :>)

...

Hi there, ! Just wondering how everything went with your

daughter's

labor and delivery?

~nne

[Guest guest]

I've wondered the same thing. Are you around, ? :-)

Beth

www.soapandgarden.com

Be good to your skin!

www.soapandgarden.blogspot.com

In a message dated 01/05/09 10:27:30 Eastern Standard Time,

lvjensen@... writes:

Hi there, ! Just wondering how everything went with your daughter's

labor and delivery?

[Guest guest]

Aw, , that's wonderful! So glad to hear things ended up well. God bless

little Makenna . :-)

Beth

www.soapandgarden.com

Be good to your skin!

www.soapandgarden.blogspot.com

In a message dated 01/05/09 10:49:39 Eastern Standard Time,

jmurray2@... writes:

Anyway, her name is Makenna . I cried when they told me she was

being named after me. They kept it

a secret from me but everyone else in the family knew. I'll have to try

and post some pictures of her in our group files.

[Guest guest]

>

> I've sent you emails, I haven't heard from you. Please contact me off list or

check your spam folder.

>

> Thank you,

> Cheryl

>

responded today... was fixing a computer most of yesterday, my first time fixing

a MAC :-)

[Guest guest]

thanks Lori,

I will check it out... it seems to have passed its peak with hair loss and

thankfully i started with a lot... some of the blood work im getting done will

show if its an issue aside from the trauma. and i came so seriously close to

shaving it in the hospital cause it was such a pain to take care of there -

maybe i should have... a new look

>

> Hey ,

>

> Sorry to hear that you had to decline the job offer. I think you did the write

thing.  Who knows, maybe they will have an opening in the future that you could

consider.  Also, sorry about your migraines.  I wish I had something to offer

that would help.

>

> Now hair I know something about.  I've been a member of the LongHairCommunity

and there are many threads on thinning hair.  You may want to peek in.

>

> Hope things get better soon!

>  Lori

>

>

> I am Bippy on Twitter.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: <laurenmarie791@...>

>

> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 2:21:28 AM

> Subject: Brain MRI scheduled

>

>  

> Hi folks,

>

> Checking in to catch up here... glad to see everybody seems to be doing pretty

well.

>

> My health since the hospitalization/ trach etc has been a slower but normal

recovery, with a few bumps.

>

> I had to decline signing my contract and going back to work with Abilicorp

(and with my ladies, Kendra and Alana). It was so hard for me to say no to such

an amazing opportunity, but they expressed needing me full time, and with the 3

hr round trip commute, and my energy levels/strength still an issue, I knew I

just could not hold up. I did not feel it would be fair to them, or my valued

staff, to " try it out " when I knew the long days would be risky for my health,

if even do-able.

>

> for once I have no " plan " ... life and this gift has given me a new perspective

since almost leaving this earth... its still really difficult to think about.

>

> All my bloodwork/tests are on track/normal with pulmo, internist, rehab doc.

>

> I have been losing a LOT of hair, with noticable thinning, I was told to

expect this after the trauma but am getting extra blood work to check

>

> Also, 2 weeks ago, I started getting frequent daily severe headaches... they

are symptomatic of migraines in clusters... it was so bad saturday that I even

took the narc painkillers I had with advil and nothing helped. I thew up -

normal with a migraine, then slept it off for 15 hrs in dark silence... the doc

checked me out monday and said if it gets that bad again to go to the ER as she

did not feel it was urgent now after checking me out/my recent blood work, but

if i feel it coming on, 3 advil help, but i cant keep that up. my co2 blood

levels are normal, as is o2 stats... my anxiety level has been much higher...

> she ordered extra bloodwork too, including a preggers test... haha... no

action here in awhile (uhhh, its becoming a long stretch, never fun , im for

sure not unless im like 6months preggers and had no clue/signs - yeah,

doubtful!(she didnt ask me, except my cycle has been off since, but no baby in

there for sure)!

>

> the doc said many things can trigger these migraines and now i get to find out

what. i do know strong perfumes/smells have given me them before... this time

the only new things were i had one margarita, my first drink in almost 4-months

cause of the meds i was on... got migraine next day after both times drinking

just one drink... also added new fish oil caps... so, i eliminated both... no

help.

>

> doc also said my increased neck pain could be a cause, so upping PT regime...

>

> I am scheduled for a brain MRI in 10 days unless it worsens.

>

> I'm worried about laying on the table that long/pain... ANY TIPS? I can barely

lay on my back an hour in my comfy bed with pillows under legs - hips and lower

back hurt... she offered valium, but would something else be better... im not

clostrophobic, so it doesnt freak me out, but the pain does and if i can do it

>

> MRI PAIN FREE TIPS???

>

> thats my update!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good hair luck!

 

________________________________

From: <laurenmarie791@...>

Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 6:00:34 PM

Subject: Re: ...

 

thanks Lori,

I will check it out... it seems to have passed its peak with hair loss and

thankfully i started with a lot... some of the blood work im getting done will

show if its an issue aside from the trauma. and i came so seriously close to

shaving it in the hospital cause it was such a pain to take care of there -

maybe i should have... a new look

>

> Hey ,

>

> Sorry to hear that you had to decline the job offer. I think you did the write

thing.  Who knows, maybe they will have an opening in the future that you could

consider.  Also, sorry about your migraines.  I wish I had something to offer

that would help.

>

> Now hair I know something about.  I've been a member of the LongHairCommunity

and there are many threads on thinning hair.  You may want to peek in.

>

> Hope things get better soon!

>  Lori

>

>

> I am Bippy on Twitter.

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: <laurenmarie791@ ...>

> @gro ups.com

> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 2:21:28 AM

> Subject: Brain MRI scheduled

>

>  

> Hi folks,

>

> Checking in to catch up here... glad to see everybody seems to be doing pretty

well.

>

> My health since the hospitalization/ trach etc has been a slower but normal

recovery, with a few bumps.

>

> I had to decline signing my contract and going back to work with Abilicorp

(and with my ladies, Kendra and Alana). It was so hard for me to say no to such

an amazing opportunity, but they expressed needing me full time, and with the 3

hr round trip commute, and my energy levels/strength still an issue, I knew I

just could not hold up. I did not feel it would be fair to them, or my valued

staff, to " try it out " when I knew the long days would be risky for my health,

if even do-able.

>

> for once I have no " plan " ... life and this gift has given me a new perspective

since almost leaving this earth... its still really difficult to think about.

>

> All my bloodwork/tests are on track/normal with pulmo, internist, rehab doc.

>

> I have been losing a LOT of hair, with noticable thinning, I was told to

expect this after the trauma but am getting extra blood work to check

>

> Also, 2 weeks ago, I started getting frequent daily severe headaches... they

are symptomatic of migraines in clusters... it was so bad saturday that I even

took the narc painkillers I had with advil and nothing helped. I thew up -

normal with a migraine, then slept it off for 15 hrs in dark silence... the doc

checked me out monday and said if it gets that bad again to go to the ER as she

did not feel it was urgent now after checking me out/my recent blood work, but

if i feel it coming on, 3 advil help, but i cant keep that up. my co2 blood

levels are normal, as is o2 stats... my anxiety level has been much higher...

> she ordered extra bloodwork too, including a preggers test... haha... no

action here in awhile (uhhh, its becoming a long stretch, never fun , im for

sure not unless im like 6months preggers and had no clue/signs - yeah,

doubtful!(she didnt ask me, except my cycle has been off since, but no baby in

there for sure)!

>

> the doc said many things can trigger these migraines and now i get to find out

what. i do know strong perfumes/smells have given me them before... this time

the only new things were i had one margarita, my first drink in almost 4-months

cause of the meds i was on... got migraine next day after both times drinking

just one drink... also added new fish oil caps... so, i eliminated both... no

help.

>

> doc also said my increased neck pain could be a cause, so upping PT regime...

>

> I am scheduled for a brain MRI in 10 days unless it worsens.

>

> I'm worried about laying on the table that long/pain... ANY TIPS? I can barely

lay on my back an hour in my comfy bed with pillows under legs - hips and lower

back hurt... she offered valium, but would something else be better... im not

clostrophobic, so it doesnt freak me out, but the pain does and if i can do it

>

> MRI PAIN FREE TIPS???

>

> thats my update!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lori,

I just went to your album here (THANKS MIKE also and I have hair envy!... how

do you take care of it? aside from the recent hair loss (its depressing to look

at the hair brush after i shower and see how much is coming out) I just notice

simple with age its not what it once was. I stopped coloring about 8mo ago, and

my natural reddish brown is coming back, but dull... it isnt dried out though,

just blah (descriptive today, huh?), NO greys yet either (YAY)... I dont blow

dry it or use heat on it unless im getting dressed up, and think im using a good

organic shampoo/cond... cant seem to find any leave in products tthough that

dont make my hair feel dirty or " done up " (looking for the ultimate leave in

conditioner still)... there is also that new soap free shampoo system thats een

on TV and starts with a " W " (wyn? or?) that im considering trying...

gonna get my hormone levels checked out too after a recent book i read...

BTW - thanks for the twitter app idea for phone. I need my bro to help me

update my version first, and i have the original iphone and many of he apps dont

work as well... maybe then ill get twitter addicted, as facebook addiction didnt

take long

<3 L

> >

> > Hey ,

> >

> > Sorry to hear that you had to decline the job offer. I think you did the

write thing.  Who knows, maybe they will have an opening in the future that you

could consider.  Also, sorry about your migraines.  I wish I had something to

offer that would help.

> >

> > Now hair I know something about.  I've been a member of the

LongHairCommunity and there are many threads on thinning hair.  You may want to

peek in.

> >

> > Hope things get better soon!

> >  Lori

> >

> >

> > I am Bippy on Twitter.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: <laurenmarie791@ ...>

> > @gro ups.com

> > Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 2:21:28 AM

> > Subject: Brain MRI scheduled

> >

> >  

> > Hi folks,

> >

> > Checking in to catch up here... glad to see everybody seems to be doing

pretty well.

> >

> > My health since the hospitalization/ trach etc has been a slower but normal

recovery, with a few bumps.

> >

> > I had to decline signing my contract and going back to work with Abilicorp

(and with my ladies, Kendra and Alana). It was so hard for me to say no to such

an amazing opportunity, but they expressed needing me full time, and with the 3

hr round trip commute, and my energy levels/strength still an issue, I knew I

just could not hold up. I did not feel it would be fair to them, or my valued

staff, to " try it out " when I knew the long days would be risky for my health,

if even do-able.

> >

> > for once I have no " plan " ... life and this gift has given me a new

perspective since almost leaving this earth... its still really difficult to

think about.

> >

> > All my bloodwork/tests are on track/normal with pulmo, internist, rehab doc.

> >

> > I have been losing a LOT of hair, with noticable thinning, I was told to

expect this after the trauma but am getting extra blood work to check

> >

> > Also, 2 weeks ago, I started getting frequent daily severe headaches... they

are symptomatic of migraines in clusters... it was so bad saturday that I even

took the narc painkillers I had with advil and nothing helped. I thew up -

normal with a migraine, then slept it off for 15 hrs in dark silence... the doc

checked me out monday and said if it gets that bad again to go to the ER as she

did not feel it was urgent now after checking me out/my recent blood work, but

if i feel it coming on, 3 advil help, but i cant keep that up. my co2 blood

levels are normal, as is o2 stats... my anxiety level has been much higher...

> > she ordered extra bloodwork too, including a preggers test... haha... no

action here in awhile (uhhh, its becoming a long stretch, never fun , im for

sure not unless im like 6months preggers and had no clue/signs - yeah,

doubtful!(she didnt ask me, except my cycle has been off since, but no baby in

there for sure)!

> >

> > the doc said many things can trigger these migraines and now i get to find

out what. i do know strong perfumes/smells have given me them before... this

time the only new things were i had one margarita, my first drink in almost

4-months cause of the meds i was on... got migraine next day after both times

drinking just one drink... also added new fish oil caps... so, i eliminated

both... no help.

> >

> > doc also said my increased neck pain could be a cause, so upping PT

regime...

> >

> > I am scheduled for a brain MRI in 10 days unless it worsens.

> >

> > I'm worried about laying on the table that long/pain... ANY TIPS? I can

barely lay on my back an hour in my comfy bed with pillows under legs - hips and

lower back hurt... she offered valium, but would something else be better... im

not clostrophobic, so it doesnt freak me out, but the pain does and if i can do

it

> >

> > MRI PAIN FREE TIPS???

> >

> > thats my update!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Leaving for work soon.  Will write back later.

 Lori

I am Bippy on Twitter.

________________________________

From: <laurenmarie791@...>

Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:04:12 PM

Subject: Re: ...

 

Lori,

I just went to your album here (THANKS MIKE also and I have hair envy!... how

do you take care of it? aside from the recent hair loss (its depressing to look

at the hair brush after i shower and see how much is coming out) I just notice

simple with age its not what it once was. I stopped coloring about 8mo ago, and

my natural reddish brown is coming back, but dull... it isnt dried out though,

just blah (descriptive today, huh?), NO greys yet either (YAY)... I dont blow

dry it or use heat on it unless im getting dressed up, and think im using a good

organic shampoo/cond. .. cant seem to find any leave in products tthough that

dont make my hair feel dirty or " done up " (looking for the ultimate leave in

conditioner still)... there is also that new soap free shampoo system thats een

on TV and starts with a " W " (wyn? or?) that im considering trying...

gonna get my hormone levels checked out too after a recent book i read...

BTW - thanks for the twitter app idea for phone. I need my bro to help me update

my version first, and i have the original iphone and many of he apps dont work

as well... maybe then ill get twitter addicted, as facebook addiction didnt take

long

<3 L

> >

> > Hey ,

> >

> > Sorry to hear that you had to decline the job offer. I think you did the

write thing.  Who knows, maybe they will have an opening in the future that you

could consider.  Also, sorry about your migraines.  I wish I had something to

offer that would help.

> >

> > Now hair I know something about.  I've been a member of the

LongHairCommunity and there are many threads on thinning hair.  You may want to

peek in.

> >

> > Hope things get better soon!

> >  Lori

> >

> >

> > I am Bippy on Twitter.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: <laurenmarie791@ ...>

> > @gro ups.com

> > Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 2:21:28 AM

> > Subject: Brain MRI scheduled

> >

> >  

> > Hi folks,

> >

> > Checking in to catch up here... glad to see everybody seems to be doing

pretty well.

> >

> > My health since the hospitalization/ trach etc has been a slower but normal

recovery, with a few bumps.

> >

> > I had to decline signing my contract and going back to work with Abilicorp

(and with my ladies, Kendra and Alana). It was so hard for me to say no to such

an amazing opportunity, but they expressed needing me full time, and with the 3

hr round trip commute, and my energy levels/strength still an issue, I knew I

just could not hold up. I did not feel it would be fair to them, or my valued

staff, to " try it out " when I knew the long days would be risky for my health,

if even do-able.

> >

> > for once I have no " plan " ... life and this gift has given me a new

perspective since almost leaving this earth... its still really difficult to

think about.

> >

> > All my bloodwork/tests are on track/normal with pulmo, internist, rehab doc.

> >

> > I have been losing a LOT of hair, with noticable thinning, I was told to

expect this after the trauma but am getting extra blood work to check

> >

> > Also, 2 weeks ago, I started getting frequent daily severe headaches... they

are symptomatic of migraines in clusters... it was so bad saturday that I even

took the narc painkillers I had with advil and nothing helped. I thew up -

normal with a migraine, then slept it off for 15 hrs in dark silence... the doc

checked me out monday and said if it gets that bad again to go to the ER as she

did not feel it was urgent now after checking me out/my recent blood work, but

if i feel it coming on, 3 advil help, but i cant keep that up. my co2 blood

levels are normal, as is o2 stats... my anxiety level has been much higher...

> > she ordered extra bloodwork too, including a preggers test... haha... no

action here in awhile (uhhh, its becoming a long stretch, never fun , im for

sure not unless im like 6months preggers and had no clue/signs - yeah,

doubtful!(she didnt ask me, except my cycle has been off since, but no baby in

there for sure)!

> >

> > the doc said many things can trigger these migraines and now i get to find

out what. i do know strong perfumes/smells have given me them before... this

time the only new things were i had one margarita, my first drink in almost

4-months cause of the meds i was on... got migraine next day after both times

drinking just one drink... also added new fish oil caps... so, i eliminated

both... no help.

> >

> > doc also said my increased neck pain could be a cause, so upping PT

regime...

> >

> > I am scheduled for a brain MRI in 10 days unless it worsens.

> >

> > I'm worried about laying on the table that long/pain... ANY TIPS? I can

barely lay on my back an hour in my comfy bed with pillows under legs - hips and

lower back hurt... she offered valium, but would something else be better... im

not clostrophobic, so it doesnt freak me out, but the pain does and if i can do

it

> >

> > MRI PAIN FREE TIPS???

> >

> > thats my update!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you, .  

My hair is actually pretty low maintenance.  washes/conditions two or three

times a week.  We do one pre-wash EVOO treatment a week in the shower.  It goes

up in a single braid with a drop of monoi oil before combing and it's done.  A

braid can go two or three days without having to be re-done.

Sounds like you are being kind to your hair...no heat or chemicals.  Natural

shampoos/conditioners also help (I use Aubrey Organic Shampoos and VO5

Conditioners).

Your body is probably still getting over the trauma of being so ill.  I bet your

hair will bounce back to normal given time.

 Lori

P.S. Your book club is a great idea.  I'd join if I were a reader.

________________________________

From: <laurenmarie791@...>

Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:04:12 PM

Subject: Re: ...

 

Lori,

I just went to your album here (THANKS MIKE also and I have hair envy!... how

do you take care of it? aside from the recent hair loss (its depressing to look

at the hair brush after i shower and see how much is coming out) I just notice

simple with age its not what it once was. I stopped coloring about 8mo ago, and

my natural reddish brown is coming back, but dull... it isnt dried out though,

just blah (descriptive today, huh?), NO greys yet either (YAY)... I dont blow

dry it or use heat on it unless im getting dressed up, and think im using a good

organic shampoo/cond. .. cant seem to find any leave in products tthough that

dont make my hair feel dirty or " done up " (looking for the ultimate leave in

conditioner still)... there is also that new soap free shampoo system thats een

on TV and starts with a " W " (wyn? or?) that im considering trying...

gonna get my hormone levels checked out too after a recent book i read...

BTW - thanks for the twitter app idea for phone. I need my bro to help me update

my version first, and i have the original iphone and many of he apps dont work

as well... maybe then ill get twitter addicted, as facebook addiction didnt take

long

<3 L

> >

> > Hey ,

> >

> > Sorry to hear that you had to decline the job offer. I think you did the

write thing.  Who knows, maybe they will have an opening in the future that you

could consider.  Also, sorry about your migraines.  I wish I had something to

offer that would help.

> >

> > Now hair I know something about.  I've been a member of the

LongHairCommunity and there are many threads on thinning hair.  You may want to

peek in.

> >

> > Hope things get better soon!

> >  Lori

> >

> >

> > I am Bippy on Twitter.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: <laurenmarie791@ ...>

> > @gro ups.com

> > Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 2:21:28 AM

> > Subject: Brain MRI scheduled

> >

> >  

> > Hi folks,

> >

> > Checking in to catch up here... glad to see everybody seems to be doing

pretty well.

> >

> > My health since the hospitalization/ trach etc has been a slower but normal

recovery, with a few bumps.

> >

> > I had to decline signing my contract and going back to work with Abilicorp

(and with my ladies, Kendra and Alana). It was so hard for me to say no to such

an amazing opportunity, but they expressed needing me full time, and with the 3

hr round trip commute, and my energy levels/strength still an issue, I knew I

just could not hold up. I did not feel it would be fair to them, or my valued

staff, to " try it out " when I knew the long days would be risky for my health,

if even do-able.

> >

> > for once I have no " plan " ... life and this gift has given me a new

perspective since almost leaving this earth... its still really difficult to

think about.

> >

> > All my bloodwork/tests are on track/normal with pulmo, internist, rehab doc.

> >

> > I have been losing a LOT of hair, with noticable thinning, I was told to

expect this after the trauma but am getting extra blood work to check

> >

> > Also, 2 weeks ago, I started getting frequent daily severe headaches... they

are symptomatic of migraines in clusters... it was so bad saturday that I even

took the narc painkillers I had with advil and nothing helped. I thew up -

normal with a migraine, then slept it off for 15 hrs in dark silence... the doc

checked me out monday and said if it gets that bad again to go to the ER as she

did not feel it was urgent now after checking me out/my recent blood work, but

if i feel it coming on, 3 advil help, but i cant keep that up. my co2 blood

levels are normal, as is o2 stats... my anxiety level has been much higher...

> > she ordered extra bloodwork too, including a preggers test... haha... no

action here in awhile (uhhh, its becoming a long stretch, never fun , im for

sure not unless im like 6months preggers and had no clue/signs - yeah,

doubtful!(she didnt ask me, except my cycle has been off since, but no baby in

there for sure)!

> >

> > the doc said many things can trigger these migraines and now i get to find

out what. i do know strong perfumes/smells have given me them before... this

time the only new things were i had one margarita, my first drink in almost

4-months cause of the meds i was on... got migraine next day after both times

drinking just one drink... also added new fish oil caps... so, i eliminated

both... no help.

> >

> > doc also said my increased neck pain could be a cause, so upping PT

regime...

> >

> > I am scheduled for a brain MRI in 10 days unless it worsens.

> >

> > I'm worried about laying on the table that long/pain... ANY TIPS? I can

barely lay on my back an hour in my comfy bed with pillows under legs - hips and

lower back hurt... she offered valium, but would something else be better... im

not clostrophobic, so it doesnt freak me out, but the pain does and if i can do

it

> >

> > MRI PAIN FREE TIPS???

> >

> > thats my update!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Everyone is so quiet. I hope that means that most everyone is doing well!

[Guest guest]

Just in the mist of the annual " Springtime " cleanup... which just means moving a

winters worth of formally frozen s**t out of the paddocks.... Although,

can't complain. The middle of the east coast got all the snow this year. We got

very little snow here in NH. The horse are all grumpy, losing hair and itchy.

They need a good run, but too muddy everywhere yet. At least I do not have to

worry about looking for lost shoes. Right now their feet are all 'au natural'

.... as in barefoot. Hope to keep them that way.

in NH

...

Everyone is so quiet. I hope that means that most everyone is doing well!

[Guest guest]

RUT ROE... I replied to the wrong " Barb " . Forgive me everyone. I was replying to

a " horse group " Barb... So if the message sounds strange...well it is for this

group... sorry. in NH....

...

Everyone is so quiet. I hope that means that most everyone is doing well!

[Guest guest]

I am having my trial stimulator put in on the 31st. do you still take pain pills

with it? How long after the trial did you have the permament one put in? Was it

worth it

spinal problems

From: smokie1952@...

Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:51:21 -0700

Subject: Re: ...

I am doing pretty well with the spinal cord stimulator, but have awful

muscle spasms. They tell me it will take time for those to subside .

From: Barb <ellijaygal@...>

Subject: ...

spinal problems

Date: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 11:32 AM

Everyone is so quiet. I hope that means that most everyone is doing well!

[Guest guest]

An odd thing that is working for me to help with muscle pain (I have a lot of

nerve spasticity that causes my muscles to constantly ache) is amino acid's and

vitamin C. I was skeptical, but I am thankful that the amino's truly do help

relieve the aches in my muscles. Now if I could just find something so simple to

relieve all of the other pains! haha You should check it out and see if it helps

you too. Let me know if it does!

Barb

>

> From: Barb <ellijaygal@...>

> Subject: ...

> spinal problems

> Date: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 11:32 AM

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well!

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[Guest guest]

I like horses too, you can tell this Barb about horses too. haha I have never

owned any, but love all animals.

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Barb - what amino acids are you taking? and at what doses?

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From: Barb <ellijaygal@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 10:11:24 AM

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An odd thing that is working for me to help with muscle pain (I have a lot of

nerve spasticity that causes my muscles to constantly ache) is amino acid's and

vitamin C. I was skeptical, but I am thankful that the amino's truly do help

relieve the aches in my muscles. Now if I could just find something so simple to

relieve all of the other pains! haha You should check it out and see if it helps

you too. Let me know if it does!

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I am taking two GNC " Amino Acid Formula " which contains various aminos or one

from Vitamin World called " Amomptropic " with various aminos. It would take me

forever to type all the different ones and their mg's. But I take two in the

morning and two at night. The vitamin C I take two 1000mg a day. I'm sure there

are certain ones that someone should take that is trying to keep your muscles

healthy, but I chose to just get a bottle with as many of them in it as possible

at the highest possible dosage. haha (Do check with your doctor to make sure it

does not interfere with any illness or other medication you are on!)

I have read several things similar to this: " The building blocks of protein,

amino acids are ubiquitous throughout the body and maintain numerous roles.

Amino acids are important to build the muscle mass that declines with age, to

enhance recovery from exercise and to support proper immune health. In fact,

exercise, aging, and illness all have one thing in common: they increase the

body's demand for essential and non-essential amino acids. "

While my illnesses prevent me from exercises my legs definitely exercise on

their own day and night from all the twitching, jerking and jumping from the

spasticity so they are always tired. I thought it wouldn't hurt to try it, and

like I said, it's either in my mind or it actually helps. I don't care which it

is, so long as it is helping!

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We had gotten a paso fino and a huge 18h walker (ex police horse) right

before my surgery, I did a little riding, but then things went to hell and

eventually we sold the boys as I could no longer ride. It was a sad parting

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> never really got to ride him as within a month of getting him sequestered

> L1/L2 and had surgery on it, was supposed to be as good as new after that

> and now have 4 herniated disks and a whole pile of problems from them. this

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