Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 > To those whom responded: > If I came off with self pitty I am sorry.If I hurt some feelings I > am sorry. > I joined this groupfor SUPPORT. What you choose to respond to > towards my feelings is what you THINK. > I'll NOT share my feelings in this group AGAIN to be judged. > I will respond to only Positative FEELINGS. > I AM SO SORRY !!!! > P E A C E, > > > > > > > > Jackie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Is your email addy that you have posted here working? d_k45050@...? I can send it again jaxDave <d_k45050@...> wrote: > To those whom responded:> If I came off with self pitty I am sorry.If I hurt some feelings I > am sorry.> I joined this groupfor SUPPORT. What you choose to respond to > towards my feelings is what you THINK.> I'll NOT share my feelings in this group AGAIN to be judged.> I will respond to only Positative FEELINGS.> I AM SO SORRY !!!!> P E A C E,> > > > > > > > Jackie>Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Is your email addy that you have posted here working? d_k45050@...? I can send it again jaxDave <d_k45050@...> wrote: > To those whom responded:> If I came off with self pitty I am sorry.If I hurt some feelings I > am sorry.> I joined this groupfor SUPPORT. What you choose to respond to > towards my feelings is what you THINK.> I'll NOT share my feelings in this group AGAIN to be judged.> I will respond to only Positative FEELINGS.> I AM SO SORRY !!!!> P E A C E,> > > > > > > > Jackie>Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Dave, I don't think that everyone on the list meant to bombard you with messages that didn't sound helpful or supportive. Your initial email sounded very depressed and sad, I think that they were trying to give you ways to help, everyone on the list at one time or another gets depressed and when that happens everyone jumps in to raise your spirits. Just a thought, I hope that things start looking up. Blessings, NoeLani --- Dave <d_k45050@...> wrote: > > > To those whom responded: > > If I came off with self pitty I am sorry.If I hurt > some feelings I > > am sorry. > > I joined this groupfor SUPPORT. What you choose to > respond to > > towards my feelings is what you THINK. > > I'll NOT share my feelings in this group AGAIN to > be judged. > > I will respond to only Positative FEELINGS. > > I AM SO SORRY !!!! > > P E A C E, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jackie > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 > > To those whom responded: > > If I came off with self pitty I am sorry.If I hurt some feelings I > > am sorry. > > I joined this groupfor SUPPORT. What you choose to respond to > > towards my feelings is what you THINK. > > I'll NOT share my feelings in this group AGAIN to be judged. > > I will respond to only Positative FEELINGS. > > I AM SO SORRY !!!! > > P E A C E, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jackie > > > > > > > > > Jackie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 > > To those whom responded: > > If I came off with self pitty I am sorry.If I hurt some feelings I > > am sorry. > > I joined this groupfor SUPPORT. What you choose to respond to > > towards my feelings is what you THINK. > > I'll NOT share my feelings in this group AGAIN to be judged. > > I will respond to only Positative FEELINGS. > > I AM SO SORRY !!!! > > P E A C E, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jackie > > > > > > > > > Jackie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 > > To those whom responded: > > If I came off with self pitty I am sorry.If I hurt some feelings I > > am sorry. > > I joined this groupfor SUPPORT. What you choose to respond to > > towards my feelings is what you THINK. > > I'll NOT share my feelings in this group AGAIN to be judged. > > I will respond to only Positative FEELINGS. > > I AM SO SORRY !!!! > > P E A C E, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jackie > > > > > > > > > Jackie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 > > To those whom responded: > > If I came off with self pitty I am sorry.If I hurt some feelings I > > am sorry. > > I joined this groupfor SUPPORT. What you choose to respond to > > towards my feelings is what you THINK. > > I'll NOT share my feelings in this group AGAIN to be judged. > > I will respond to only Positative FEELINGS. > > I AM SO SORRY !!!! > > P E A C E, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jackie > > > > > > > > > Jackie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Dave, I do hope you won't leave this group. There is soooooo much knowledge and support here. However, I did not write to persuade you of that. I'm posting to tell you of MY experiences with the PROCESS. After getting diagnosed in 1999, I decided that I would treat. I did not have insurance coverage and knew absolutely nothing of the politics involved in working with people who could help me. I'm a very literal, outspoken, honest person, so that's how I approached this problem. I finally stumbled my way into finding out that the drug companies would help those who needed help and called them. We danced around for several months before I learned that I did not have enough need. During all this, I was an emotional mess, with massive depression and a real fear of the disease and little knowledge about it. ALSO, did not know about support groups and my doc told me to go out and find my own financing, no suggestions at all. I'm shortening this story, but I finally went to the court house and filed my own divorce papers and divorced my husband of then 3 years. Then, I filled out endless papers and tracked down medical records and sent them, proof of my birth, proof of my income, proof of my divorce, etc, etc. I finally completely broke down on the phone to the Scherring agents and simply sobbed. WELLL, they transferred me to another superior agent who saw fit to----after a solid year of this ridiculous dance---- to clear me for treatment. During this time and during the enduing treatment, I had absolutely no support and the nurse who handled Hep cases for the doc I chose was also absolutely no support and poo-pood all my side effects as me being a baby. Besides that, my husband, a good man, did not know how to handle what was happening to me and we very nearly REALLY separated and divorced. I did not know about the emotional roller coaster and the "riba rage" that I would experience, I did not realize I would be so weak and unable to cope with each day.....and on and on. To say the least, it was the toughest, roughest, scariest time in my life and I was NOT as bad as many with this desease are. For this reason, I believe the support of other heppers is of the highest value during your rough and darkest times. I could also tell you of the two year battle to get disability, but this is long enough. The point is IGNORE the jerks who respond and listen to all the supportive and caring people found on this site and you WILL feel positive. SharonDave <d_k45050@...> wrote: __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Hi , I've learned a lot from your posts. I would like to join the group that you start. Please let me know what it's called. Thanks, Liz - In spinal problems , " tpowell1977 " <tpowell1977@...> wrote: > > I am going to be leaving and starting my own group so that it can actually be moderated...but before I go I want to address something > > I have had strong feelings of protection of this group. Like I have said before, I have been here a long time(more than 3 yrs) and have seen many folks come though almost none had a personal agenda and caused any disruption...a very rare few have commandeered the group with some silly power trip...but lately there have been more in the last few months than combined the last three years. > > I wanted to not run away from a group that is being threatened but since I am not a moderator..I have no way to defend the group and save it from its current course. > > So with that I will say to Dave that some of the things you've said to people, advice you have given...is not only wrong...it borders on damaging. You must think carefully before you advise somoeone especially when it comes to medical advice. You need to listen more and talk less. Your advice is way off base...and your criticizing, belittling and ostracizing of people on here is what is endangering the group. YOU are keeping a thread of discord running through the group. And WHy you seem to have gotten a little power trip here is beyond my understanding...it's a SUPPORT GROUP. Please...get off your high horse and do the group a favor...LEAVE. > > And for " Dr Bob " ...you know, I am a Christian too and even in your speech about not bringing that agenda here...you sure managed to plant a few seeds didn't you? > > And I am sure you have nothing but the best intentions, and I'm sure you wholeheartedly care for your patients and want to help...but over the years I have seen that most ALL chiros are overzealous in thinking they can " cure " just about every disease or pain out there...and encouage people to run the other way when surgery is advised...and there is SURELY a lot of times when people need to avoid surgery...but just to let you know...HERE the people are well beyond the help of a chiropractor. Just keep that in mind...the majority of the folks here are like yourself and not just moaning about a herniated disk. > And as far as giving out advice...have fun. I have been involved here and came not only for my own pain and needing to talk with others who knew the problems I had dealt with...but also because my own personal/medical experience...coupled with my professional experience of being a surgical nurse with a specialty in spine surgery...I wanted to be able to share with others what I felt priveledged to have learned...because precious few know the things the docs never tell you. There are SOOOO many IMPORTANT things that people need to know...and I was just like them, going with the flow and following along like cattle in the medical system that I was helpless to navigate. And I did help...many people. And it makes me feel like it was all worth it...the job that I may never do again. It was all well and good...we all contributed to each other and I learned many things from others...but there are certain people on here who threaten those who actually know what they are talking about...they push and push and cause strife until you run from it...because...above all...this group is about SUPPORT. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 of course Liz...I guess I should get on that. I've been thinking about wether or not to keep it on or use another portal...any ideas?  --- Babbitt ________________________________ From: lizmartin9 <lizmartin9@...> spinal problems Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 4:57:24 PM Subject: Re: To Dave  Hi , I've learned a lot from your posts. I would like to join the group that you start. Please let me know what it's called. Thanks, Liz - In spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com, " tpowell1977 " <tpowell1977@ ....> wrote: > > I am going to be leaving and starting my own group so that it can actually be moderated... but before I go I want to address something > > I have had strong feelings of protection of this group. Like I have said before, I have been here a long time(more than 3 yrs) and have seen many folks come though almost none had a personal agenda and caused any disruption.. .a very rare few have commandeered the group with some silly power trip...but lately there have been more in the last few months than combined the last three years. > > I wanted to not run away from a group that is being threatened but since I am not a moderator..I have no way to defend the group and save it from its current course. > > So with that I will say to Dave that some of the things you've said to people, advice you have given...is not only wrong...it borders on damaging. You must think carefully before you advise somoeone especially when it comes to medical advice. You need to listen more and talk less. Your advice is way off base...and your criticizing, belittling and ostracizing of people on here is what is endangering the group. YOU are keeping a thread of discord running through the group. And WHy you seem to have gotten a little power trip here is beyond my understanding. ..it's a SUPPORT GROUP. Please...get off your high horse and do the group a favor...LEAVE. > > And for " Dr Bob " ...you know, I am a Christian too and even in your speech about not bringing that agenda here...you sure managed to plant a few seeds didn't you? > > And I am sure you have nothing but the best intentions, and I'm sure you wholeheartedly care for your patients and want to help...but over the years I have seen that most ALL chiros are overzealous in thinking they can " cure " just about every disease or pain out there...and encouage people to run the other way when surgery is advised...and there is SURELY a lot of times when people need to avoid surgery...but just to let you know...HERE the people are well beyond the help of a chiropractor. Just keep that in mind...the majority of the folks here are like yourself and not just moaning about a herniated disk. > And as far as giving out advice...have fun. I have been involved here and came not only for my own pain and needing to talk with others who knew the problems I had dealt with...but also because my own personal/medical experience.. .coupled with my professional experience of being a surgical nurse with a specialty in spine surgery...I wanted to be able to share with others what I felt priveledged to have learned...because precious few know the things the docs never tell you. There are SOOOO many IMPORTANT things that people need to know...and I was just like them, going with the flow and following along like cattle in the medical system that I was helpless to navigate. And I did help...many people. And it makes me feel like it was all worth it...the job that I may never do again. It was all well and good...we all contributed to each other and I learned many things from others...but there are certain people on here who threaten those who actually know what they are talking about...they push and push and cause strife until you run from it...because. ..above all...this group is about SUPPORT. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I've only been on , so I'm not any help. Sorry about that. Liz -- In spinal problems , Babbitt <tpowell1977@...> wrote: > > of course Liz...I guess I should get on that. I've been thinking about wether or not to keep it on or use another portal...any ideas? > Â --- Babbitt > > > > > ________________________________ > From: lizmartin9 <lizmartin9@...> > spinal problems > Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 4:57:24 PM > Subject: Re: To Dave > > Â > Hi , > I've learned a lot from your posts. I would like to join the group that you start. Please let me know what it's called. > Thanks, > Liz > - In spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com, " tpowell1977 " <tpowell1977@ ....> wrote: > > > > I am going to be leaving and starting my own group so that it can actually be moderated... but before I go I want to address something > > > > I have had strong feelings of protection of this group. Like I have said before, I have been here a long time(more than 3 yrs) and have seen many folks come though almost none had a personal agenda and caused any disruption.. .a very rare few have commandeered the group with some silly power trip...but lately there have been more in the last few months than combined the last three years. > > > > I wanted to not run away from a group that is being threatened but since I am not a moderator..I have no way to defend the group and save it from its current course. > > > > So with that I will say to Dave that some of the things you've said to people, advice you have given...is not only wrong...it borders on damaging. You must think carefully before you advise somoeone especially when it comes to medical advice. You need to listen more and talk less. Your advice is way off base...and your criticizing, belittling and ostracizing of people on here is what is endangering the group. YOU are keeping a thread of discord running through the group. And WHy you seem to have gotten a little power trip here is beyond my understanding. ..it's a SUPPORT GROUP. Please...get off your high horse and do the group a favor...LEAVE. > > > > And for " Dr Bob " ...you know, I am a Christian too and even in your speech about not bringing that agenda here...you sure managed to plant a few seeds didn't you? > > > > And I am sure you have nothing but the best intentions, and I'm sure you wholeheartedly care for your patients and want to help...but over the years I have seen that most ALL chiros are overzealous in thinking they can " cure " just about every disease or pain out there...and encouage people to run the other way when surgery is advised...and there is SURELY a lot of times when people need to avoid surgery...but just to let you know...HERE the people are well beyond the help of a chiropractor. Just keep that in mind...the majority of the folks here are like yourself and not just moaning about a herniated disk. > > And as far as giving out advice...have fun. I have been involved here and came not only for my own pain and needing to talk with others who knew the problems I had dealt with...but also because my own personal/medical experience.. .coupled with my professional experience of being a surgical nurse with a specialty in spine surgery...I wanted to be able to share with others what I felt priveledged to have learned...because precious few know the things the docs never tell you. There are SOOOO many IMPORTANT things that people need to know...and I was just like them, going with the flow and following along like cattle in the medical system that I was helpless to navigate. And I did help...many people. And it makes me feel like it was all worth it...the job that I may never do again. It was all well and good...we all contributed to each other and I learned many things from others...but there are certain people on here who threaten those who actually know > what they are talking about...they push and push and cause strife until you run from it...because. ..above all...this group is about SUPPORT. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Please let me know when you start your group. I admire what you say and would love to join your group. Thanks' spinal problems From: tpowell1977@... Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 03:38:32 +0000 Subject: To Dave I am going to be leaving and starting my own group so that it can actually be moderated...but before I go I want to address something I have had strong feelings of protection of this group. Like I have said before, I have been here a long time(more than 3 yrs) and have seen many folks come though almost none had a personal agenda and caused any disruption...a very rare few have commandeered the group with some silly power trip...but lately there have been more in the last few months than combined the last three years. I wanted to not run away from a group that is being threatened but since I am not a moderator..I have no way to defend the group and save it from its current course. So with that I will say to Dave that some of the things you've said to people, advice you have given...is not only wrong...it borders on damaging. You must think carefully before you advise somoeone especially when it comes to medical advice. You need to listen more and talk less. Your advice is way off base...and your criticizing, belittling and ostracizing of people on here is what is endangering the group. YOU are keeping a thread of discord running through the group. And WHy you seem to have gotten a little power trip here is beyond my understanding...it's a SUPPORT GROUP. Please...get off your high horse and do the group a favor...LEAVE. And for " Dr Bob " ...you know, I am a Christian too and even in your speech about not bringing that agenda here...you sure managed to plant a few seeds didn't you? And I am sure you have nothing but the best intentions, and I'm sure you wholeheartedly care for your patients and want to help...but over the years I have seen that most ALL chiros are overzealous in thinking they can " cure " just about every disease or pain out there...and encouage people to run the other way when surgery is advised...and there is SURELY a lot of times when people need to avoid surgery...but just to let you know...HERE the people are well beyond the help of a chiropractor. Just keep that in mind...the majority of the folks here are like yourself and not just moaning about a herniated disk. And as far as giving out advice...have fun. I have been involved here and came not only for my own pain and needing to talk with others who knew the problems I had dealt with...but also because my own personal/medical experience...coupled with my professional experience of being a surgical nurse with a specialty in spine surgery...I wanted to be able to share with others what I felt priveledged to have learned...because precious few know the things the docs never tell you. There are SOOOO many IMPORTANT things that people need to know...and I was just like them, going with the flow and following along like cattle in the medical system that I was helpless to navigate. And I did help...many people. And it makes me feel like it was all worth it...the job that I may never do again. It was all well and good...we all contributed to each other and I learned many things from others...but there are certain people on here who threaten those who actually know what they are talking about...they push and push and cause strife until you run from it...because...above all...this group is about SUPPORT. _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 , Please let me know your new groups addy, I would like to join so I can continue to get so professional advice from you. Thanks for your consideration.  Bama, george  " He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. " -unknown- ________________________________ From: tpowell1977 <tpowell1977@...> spinal problems Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2009 10:38:32 PM Subject: To Dave  I am going to be leaving and starting my own group so that it can actually be moderated... but before I go I want to address something I have had strong feelings of protection of this group. Like I have said before, I have been here a long time(more than 3 yrs) and have seen many folks come though almost none had a personal agenda and caused any disruption.. .a very rare few have commandeered the group with some silly power trip...but lately there have been more in the last few months than combined the last three years. I wanted to not run away from a group that is being threatened but since I am not a moderator..I have no way to defend the group and save it from its current course. So with that I will say to Dave that some of the things you've said to people, advice you have given...is not only wrong...it borders on damaging. You must think carefully before you advise somoeone especially when it comes to medical advice. You need to listen more and talk less. Your advice is way off base...and your criticizing, belittling and ostracizing of people on here is what is endangering the group. YOU are keeping a thread of discord running through the group. And WHy you seem to have gotten a little power trip here is beyond my understanding. ..it's a SUPPORT GROUP. Please...get off your high horse and do the group a favor...LEAVE. And for " Dr Bob " ...you know, I am a Christian too and even in your speech about not bringing that agenda here...you sure managed to plant a few seeds didn't you? And I am sure you have nothing but the best intentions, and I'm sure you wholeheartedly care for your patients and want to help....but over the years I have seen that most ALL chiros are overzealous in thinking they can " cure " just about every disease or pain out there...and encouage people to run the other way when surgery is advised...and there is SURELY a lot of times when people need to avoid surgery...but just to let you know...HERE the people are well beyond the help of a chiropractor. Just keep that in mind...the majority of the folks here are like yourself and not just moaning about a herniated disk. And as far as giving out advice...have fun. I have been involved here and came not only for my own pain and needing to talk with others who knew the problems I had dealt with...but also because my own personal/medical experience.. .coupled with my professional experience of being a surgical nurse with a specialty in spine surgery...I wanted to be able to share with others what I felt priveledged to have learned...because precious few know the things the docs never tell you. There are SOOOO many IMPORTANT things that people need to know...and I was just like them, going with the flow and following along like cattle in the medical system that I was helpless to navigate. And I did help...many people. And it makes me feel like it was all worth it...the job that I may never do again. It was all well and good...we all contributed to each other and I learned many things from others...but there are certain people on here who threaten those who actually know what they are talking about...they push and push and cause strife until you run from it...because. ..above all...this group is about SUPPORT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Hey , As I stated in a recent post, I have been given moderator status here, so I plan on hanging here for a while and working with the other moderator to get this group back to where it used to be way back when. I hope you'll continue to be an uplifting part of this group and see us through to a happier and more supportive place.  --- Babbitt ________________________________ From: Lambert <glambert28@...> spinal problems Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:02:40 AM Subject: Re: To Dave  , Please let me know your new groups addy, I would like to join so I can continue to get so professional advice from you. Thanks for your consideration.  Bama, george  " He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. " -unknown- ____________ _________ _________ __ From: tpowell1977 <tpowell1977> spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2009 10:38:32 PM Subject: To Dave  I am going to be leaving and starting my own group so that it can actually be moderated... but before I go I want to address something I have had strong feelings of protection of this group. Like I have said before, I have been here a long time(more than 3 yrs) and have seen many folks come though almost none had a personal agenda and caused any disruption.. .a very rare few have commandeered the group with some silly power trip...but lately there have been more in the last few months than combined the last three years. I wanted to not run away from a group that is being threatened but since I am not a moderator..I have no way to defend the group and save it from its current course. So with that I will say to Dave that some of the things you've said to people, advice you have given...is not only wrong...it borders on damaging. You must think carefully before you advise somoeone especially when it comes to medical advice. You need to listen more and talk less. Your advice is way off base...and your criticizing, belittling and ostracizing of people on here is what is endangering the group. YOU are keeping a thread of discord running through the group. And WHy you seem to have gotten a little power trip here is beyond my understanding. ..it's a SUPPORT GROUP. Please...get off your high horse and do the group a favor...LEAVE. And for " Dr Bob " ...you know, I am a Christian too and even in your speech about not bringing that agenda here...you sure managed to plant a few seeds didn't you? And I am sure you have nothing but the best intentions, and I'm sure you wholeheartedly care for your patients and want to help....but over the years I have seen that most ALL chiros are overzealous in thinking they can " cure " just about every disease or pain out there...and encouage people to run the other way when surgery is advised...and there is SURELY a lot of times when people need to avoid surgery...but just to let you know...HERE the people are well beyond the help of a chiropractor. Just keep that in mind...the majority of the folks here are like yourself and not just moaning about a herniated disk. And as far as giving out advice...have fun. I have been involved here and came not only for my own pain and needing to talk with others who knew the problems I had dealt with...but also because my own personal/medical experience.. .coupled with my professional experience of being a surgical nurse with a specialty in spine surgery...I wanted to be able to share with others what I felt priveledged to have learned...because precious few know the things the docs never tell you. There are SOOOO many IMPORTANT things that people need to know...and I was just like them, going with the flow and following along like cattle in the medical system that I was helpless to navigate. And I did help...many people. And it makes me feel like it was all worth it...the job that I may never do again. It was all well and good...we all contributed to each other and I learned many things from others...but there are certain people on here who threaten those who actually know what they are talking about...they push and push and cause strife until you run from it...because. ..above all...this group is about SUPPORT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Hi , I see you have a lot to take care of here so I won't keep you. I'm just lurking right now due to severe pain in my back as well as pain from other problems. Keep up the good work and I will be here as I can.  Bama, george  " He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. " -unknown- ________________________________ From: Babbitt <tpowell1977@...> spinal problems Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:48:59 AM Subject: Re: To Dave  Hey , As I stated in a recent post, I have been given moderator status here, so I plan on hanging here for a while and working with the other moderator to get this group back to where it used to be way back when. I hope you'll continue to be an uplifting part of this group and see us through to a happier and more supportive place.  --- Babbitt ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Lambert <glambert28 (DOT) com> spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:02:40 AM Subject: Re: To Dave  , Please let me know your new groups addy, I would like to join so I can continue to get so professional advice from you. Thanks for your consideration.  Bama, george  " He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. " -unknown- ____________ _________ _________ __ From: tpowell1977 <tpowell1977> spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2009 10:38:32 PM Subject: To Dave  I am going to be leaving and starting my own group so that it can actually be moderated... but before I go I want to address something I have had strong feelings of protection of this group. Like I have said before, I have been here a long time(more than 3 yrs) and have seen many folks come though almost none had a personal agenda and caused any disruption.. .a very rare few have commandeered the group with some silly power trip...but lately there have been more in the last few months than combined the last three years. I wanted to not run away from a group that is being threatened but since I am not a moderator..I have no way to defend the group and save it from its current course. So with that I will say to Dave that some of the things you've said to people, advice you have given...is not only wrong...it borders on damaging. You must think carefully before you advise somoeone especially when it comes to medical advice. You need to listen more and talk less. Your advice is way off base...and your criticizing, belittling and ostracizing of people on here is what is endangering the group. YOU are keeping a thread of discord running through the group. And WHy you seem to have gotten a little power trip here is beyond my understanding. ..it's a SUPPORT GROUP. Please...get off your high horse and do the group a favor...LEAVE. And for " Dr Bob " ...you know, I am a Christian too and even in your speech about not bringing that agenda here...you sure managed to plant a few seeds didn't you? And I am sure you have nothing but the best intentions, and I'm sure you wholeheartedly care for your patients and want to help....but over the years I have seen that most ALL chiros are overzealous in thinking they can " cure " just about every disease or pain out there...and encouage people to run the other way when surgery is advised...and there is SURELY a lot of times when people need to avoid surgery...but just to let you know...HERE the people are well beyond the help of a chiropractor. Just keep that in mind...the majority of the folks here are like yourself and not just moaning about a herniated disk. And as far as giving out advice...have fun. I have been involved here and came not only for my own pain and needing to talk with others who knew the problems I had dealt with...but also because my own personal/medical experience.. .coupled with my professional experience of being a surgical nurse with a specialty in spine surgery...I wanted to be able to share with others what I felt priveledged to have learned...because precious few know the things the docs never tell you. There are SOOOO many IMPORTANT things that people need to know...and I was just like them, going with the flow and following along like cattle in the medical system that I was helpless to navigate. And I did help...many people. And it makes me feel like it was all worth it...the job that I may never do again. It was all well and good...we all contributed to each other and I learned many things from others...but there are certain people on here who threaten those who actually know what they are talking about...they push and push and cause strife until you run from it...because. ..above all...this group is about SUPPORT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 , I'm so sorry to hear your pain is worse right now. I wish I could help...I'm sending pain free wishes your way!  --- Babbitt ________________________________ From: Lambert <glambert28@...> spinal problems Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:03:12 AM Subject: Re: To Dave  Hi , I see you have a lot to take care of here so I won't keep you. I'm just lurking right now due to severe pain in my back as well as pain from other problems. Keep up the good work and I will be here as I can.  Bama, george  " He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. " -unknown- ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Babbitt <tpowell1977> spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:48:59 AM Subject: Re: To Dave  Hey , As I stated in a recent post, I have been given moderator status here, so I plan on hanging here for a while and working with the other moderator to get this group back to where it used to be way back when. I hope you'll continue to be an uplifting part of this group and see us through to a happier and more supportive place.  --- Babbitt ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Lambert <glambert28@ . com> spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:02:40 AM Subject: Re: To Dave  , Please let me know your new groups addy, I would like to join so I can continue to get so professional advice from you. Thanks for your consideration.  Bama, george  " He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. " -unknown- ____________ _________ _________ __ From: tpowell1977 <tpowell1977> spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2009 10:38:32 PM Subject: To Dave  I am going to be leaving and starting my own group so that it can actually be moderated... but before I go I want to address something I have had strong feelings of protection of this group. Like I have said before, I have been here a long time(more than 3 yrs) and have seen many folks come though almost none had a personal agenda and caused any disruption.. .a very rare few have commandeered the group with some silly power trip...but lately there have been more in the last few months than combined the last three years. I wanted to not run away from a group that is being threatened but since I am not a moderator..I have no way to defend the group and save it from its current course. So with that I will say to Dave that some of the things you've said to people, advice you have given...is not only wrong...it borders on damaging. You must think carefully before you advise somoeone especially when it comes to medical advice. You need to listen more and talk less. Your advice is way off base...and your criticizing, belittling and ostracizing of people on here is what is endangering the group. YOU are keeping a thread of discord running through the group. And WHy you seem to have gotten a little power trip here is beyond my understanding. ..it's a SUPPORT GROUP. Please...get off your high horse and do the group a favor...LEAVE. And for " Dr Bob " ...you know, I am a Christian too and even in your speech about not bringing that agenda here...you sure managed to plant a few seeds didn't you? And I am sure you have nothing but the best intentions, and I'm sure you wholeheartedly care for your patients and want to help....but over the years I have seen that most ALL chiros are overzealous in thinking they can " cure " just about every disease or pain out there...and encouage people to run the other way when surgery is advised...and there is SURELY a lot of times when people need to avoid surgery...but just to let you know...HERE the people are well beyond the help of a chiropractor. Just keep that in mind...the majority of the folks here are like yourself and not just moaning about a herniated disk. And as far as giving out advice...have fun. I have been involved here and came not only for my own pain and needing to talk with others who knew the problems I had dealt with...but also because my own personal/medical experience.. .coupled with my professional experience of being a surgical nurse with a specialty in spine surgery...I wanted to be able to share with others what I felt priveledged to have learned...because precious few know the things the docs never tell you. There are SOOOO many IMPORTANT things that people need to know...and I was just like them, going with the flow and following along like cattle in the medical system that I was helpless to navigate. And I did help...many people. And it makes me feel like it was all worth it...the job that I may never do again. It was all well and good...we all contributed to each other and I learned many things from others...but there are certain people on here who threaten those who actually know what they are talking about...they push and push and cause strife until you run from it...because. ..above all...this group is about SUPPORT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Dave Will dulcolax pills work just as well? That's what they had me start with, then 2 hrs. later, drink the Miralax mixture. Together it did what they wanted it to do, plus more. I just want to have a life where I'm attached to the bathroom! I weigh 110 and am hoping I can just take a pill every day. What are your thoughts? Jeannie ________________________________ From: Dave Cruikshank <d.cruikshank@...> neck pain Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 11:17:17 PM Subject: Re: just hi  At 12:08 AM 4/28/2010, you wrote: > Hi, sorry to hear of your troubles. Don't fear Miralax. I buy the Generic equivalent at Sams or Walmart because between my wife and I we use it every-day because of pain medicine. It doesn't tie you to the bathroom. Without it, pardon me I'd be impacted. I almost had to go to the ER for that and that was enough to scare me to use the Miralax daily. It's very gentle, when mixed with your favorite drink it's tasteless. I use Grape or Orange juice mixed with diet Sierra Mist. If I take it at supper time I usually go by bedtime. Narcotics will definitely mess up our digestion. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 At 12:37 AM 4/29/2010, you wrote: > > >Dave >Will dulcolax pills work just as well? That's what they had me start >with, then 2 hrs. later, drink the Miralax mixture. Together it did >what they wanted it to do, plus more. I just want to have a life >where I'm attached to the bathroom! I weigh 110 and am hoping I can >just take a pill every day. What are your thoughts? > >Jeannie I can't say. My experience with Ducolax was cramping and then I had to go NOW! Since I am on 24x7 narcotics I use the Miralax and also Senecot w/ a stool softener. I use Walmart generic version. Just one or the other doesn't work for me. But I'm not tied to the bathroom. I take the Senecot in the AM and the Miralax say at 7-8pm. Then I generally have a bm BY 10PM. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 HI DAVE--and Group, I have not posted much lately as I am dealing with a chronic autoimmune diagnosis calledPMR-- which has complicated my already moderate issues with C Spine for which I get 6 month intervals of epidurals--and they do help I have been taking a mild narcotic for my PMR-- a chronic muscle inflammation( ployneuralgia  rheumatica),  FIBROMYLAGIA,inflammation of the nerves, joints, and C Spine issues now for nearly 3 years and do not have any constipation at all- in fact the " other " effect seems to occur-- which I realize is not the common reaction. Anyone else have the same reaction as I do? I have also been taking oral steroids too for the PMR, a low dose sebecau I am very sensitive to higher more therapeutic doses of Predisione-- in combination with the hydrocodone, it helps. Annie  A poet is, after all, to see ________________________________ From: Dave Cruikshank <d.cruikshank@...> neck pain Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 3:19:36 AM Subject: Re: to Dave At 12:37 AM 4/29/2010, you wrote: > > >Dave >Will dulcolax pills work just as well? That's what they had me start >with, then 2 hrs. later, drink the Miralax mixture. Together it did >what they wanted it to do, plus more. I just want to have a life >where I'm attached to the bathroom! I weigh 110 and am hoping I can >just take a pill every day. What are your thoughts? > >Jeannie I can't say. My experience with Ducolax was cramping and then I had to go NOW! Since I am on 24x7 narcotics I use the Miralax and also Senecot w/ a stool softener. I use Walmart generic version. Just one or the other doesn't work for me. But I'm not tied to the bathroom. I take the Senecot in the AM and the Miralax say at 7-8pm. Then I generally have a bm BY 10PM. Dave ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Ann, I have fibromyalgia which has always been accompanied by IBS. I have chronic bouts of diarrhea with periodic constipation. Since being on narcotics the diarrhea should have been lessened. Not for me it hasn't. I do think fibromyalgia is the culprit and wins over with the IBS.  Jennette ________________________________ From: Ann Wood Fuller <gatorma1@...> neck pain Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 3:32:50 AM Subject: Re: to Dave  HI DAVE--and Group, I have not posted much lately as I am dealing with a chronic autoimmune diagnosis calledPMR-- which has complicated my already moderate issues with C Spine for which I get 6 month intervals of epidurals--and they do help I have been taking a mild narcotic for my PMR-- a chronic muscle inflammation( ployneuralgia  rheumatica) ,  FIBROMYLAGIA, inflammation of the nerves, joints, and C Spine issues now for nearly 3 years and do not have any constipation at all- in fact the " other " effect seems to occur-- which I realize is not the common reaction. Anyone else have the same reaction as I do? I have also been taking oral steroids too for the PMR, a low dose sebecau I am very sensitive to higher more therapeutic doses of Predisione-- in combination with the hydrocodone, it helps. Annie  A poet is, after all, to see ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Dave Cruikshank <d.cruikshank@ comcast.net> PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 3:19:36 AM Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] to Dave At 12:37 AM 4/29/2010, you wrote: > > >Dave >Will dulcolax pills work just as well? That's what they had me start >with, then 2 hrs. later, drink the Miralax mixture. Together it did >what they wanted it to do, plus more. I just want to have a life >where I'm attached to the bathroom! I weigh 110 and am hoping I can >just take a pill every day. What are your thoughts? > >Jeannie I can't say. My experience with Ducolax was cramping and then I had to go NOW! Since I am on 24x7 narcotics I use the Miralax and also Senecot w/ a stool softener. I use Walmart generic version. Just one or the other doesn't work for me. But I'm not tied to the bathroom. I take the Senecot in the AM and the Miralax say at 7-8pm. Then I generally have a bm BY 10PM. Dave ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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