Re: 2nd Opinion for surgery-meds n driving

[Guest guest]

Is it possible to drive on these meds? My pain always increases when I drive.

>

> Hi Hun,

> First of all I am so sorry about all of your pain, but it sounds like this

Ortho is trying to help. One thing that you need to understand, people that are

in chronic pain very, very rarely get addicted to their medications, why?

because the medications give us relief, that is why.

> Addicts take pills to get high, not to resolve chronic pain. They take drugs

and pills and whatever else they can into their little dirty hands because they

like to be high, us people in pain don't want to be high, we want relief! So get

that out of your head.....

>

> Second, a pain management Doctor will put you on medications, will probably

offer you trigger point shots, PT, and other interventions to help you with your

pain. The medications that you mention are not that good for pain. Better meds

for pain are the extended release kind, like MS Contin, Methadone, Oxymorphone,

etc.... You will only have to take 1 or maybe 2 a day and that will take care of

your pain, and then when you get sudden pain or what they call " break through "

pain, your Doctor can have you take an inmmediate release medication like

Percocet, to get the pain under control.

>

> You need to be on a good regiment of medications and interventions that will

allow you to exercise and get out of the house. Been in bed all of the time does

not help. So go to the pain management Doctor, listen to what he has to say and

go from there. Take care,

>

[Guest guest]

Any drug that can have an effect on your ability to drive making you " less safe "

leaves you open for a DUI Drugs. Some people can take medication and they can

drive just fine with no side effects. I personally can't take all of the

medications I take, at the level I am prescribed, and feel comfortable driving

very far. SO I generally just take one-half of one of my pills and then if I am

going to be at my destination for very long I will go ahead and take the rest of

my med's. When they begin to wear off I drive back home.

They put " use caution when driving or operating machinery " on the sides of the

bottles for a reason! haha

Barb

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> > Hi Hun,

> > First of all I am so sorry about all of your pain, but it sounds like this

Ortho is trying to help. One thing that you need to understand, people that are

in chronic pain very, very rarely get addicted to their medications, why?

because the medications give us relief, that is why.

> > Addicts take pills to get high, not to resolve chronic pain. They take drugs

and pills and whatever else they can into their little dirty hands because they

like to be high, us people in pain don't want to be high, we want relief! So get

that out of your head.....

> >

> > Second, a pain management Doctor will put you on medications, will probably

offer you trigger point shots, PT, and other interventions to help you with your

pain. The medications that you mention are not that good for pain. Better meds

for pain are the extended release kind, like MS Contin, Methadone, Oxymorphone,

etc.... You will only have to take 1 or maybe 2 a day and that will take care of

your pain, and then when you get sudden pain or what they call " break through "

pain, your Doctor can have you take an inmmediate release medication like

Percocet, to get the pain under control.

> >

> > You need to be on a good regiment of medications and interventions that will

allow you to exercise and get out of the house. Been in bed all of the time does

not help. So go to the pain management Doctor, listen to what he has to say and

go from there. Take care,

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Use alot of caution when driving while taking meds. If anything happens , there

are alot of lawyers that would love to take you to court  and get all they can

from you. I was sued once for just owning a vehicle that was in an accident .

From: Barb <ellijaygal@...>

Subject: Re: 2nd Opinion for surgery-meds n driving

spinal problems

Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 8:58 AM

 

Any drug that can have an effect on your ability to drive making you " less

safe " leaves you open for a DUI Drugs. Some people can take medication and they

can drive just fine with no side effects. I personally can't take all of the

medications I take, at the level I am prescribed, and feel comfortable driving

very far. SO I generally just take one-half of one of my pills and then if I am

going to be at my destination for very long I will go ahead and take the rest of

my med's. When they begin to wear off I drive back home.

They put " use caution when driving or operating machinery " on the sides of the

bottles for a reason! haha

Barb

> >

> > Hi Hun,

> > First of all I am so sorry about all of your pain, but it sounds like this

Ortho is trying to help. One thing that you need to understand, people that are

in chronic pain very, very rarely get addicted to their medications, why?

because the medications give us relief, that is why.

> > Addicts take pills to get high, not to resolve chronic pain. They take drugs

and pills and whatever else they can into their little dirty hands because they

like to be high, us people in pain don't want to be high, we want relief! So get

that out of your head.....

> >

> > Second, a pain management Doctor will put you on medications, will probably

offer you trigger point shots, PT, and other interventions to help you with your

pain. The medications that you mention are not that good for pain. Better meds

for pain are the extended release kind, like MS Contin, Methadone, Oxymorphone,

etc.... You will only have to take 1 or maybe 2 a day and that will take care of

your pain, and then when you get sudden pain or what they call " break through "

pain, your Doctor can have you take an inmmediate release medication like

Percocet, to get the pain under control.

> >

> > You need to be on a good regiment of medications and interventions that will

allow you to exercise and get out of the house. Been in bed all of the time does

not help. So go to the pain management Doctor, listen to what he has to say and

go from there. Take care,

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I personally worry about hurting someone else while driving or going to jail

more than I worry about attorneys and lawsuits.

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> > Is it possible to drive on these meds? My pain always increases when I

drive.

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[Guest guest]

Firstly, I must admit....UNLESS you are impaired on your meds that  statement

is completely untrue UNLESS YOU ARE A PILOT OR A COMMERCIAL DRIVER where the

standard is they cant take any medication that could affect....not just

opiates. That would be no different then someone with a seizure disorder who is

controlled on meds driving....the QUESTION re meds would never be asked unless

you receive a citation at the scene due to the cop questioning impairment....its

not like the cops can say...ok, you just had an accident...go get a drug

screen.  It happens when a person IS DEAD..they always do toxicology in an

accident.  I have been on the same pain meds for 10 years.  A doc recently

said do you drive a car, its illegal.  I said really, I worked in an intensive

care unit...they knew the meds i was on...certainly wouldnt call that impaired.

Deb RN

 Debra

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From: Barb <ellijaygal@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 8:29:38 PM

Subject: Re: 2nd Opinion for surgery-meds n driving

 

I personally worry about hurting someone else while driving or going to jail

more than I worry about attorneys and lawsuits.

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> > Is it possible to drive on these meds? My pain always increases when I

drive.

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[Guest guest]

Deb,

If you are " less safe to drive " and give a law enforcement a reason to pull you

over you are at risk. I can tell my medications make me less safe, and I know if

I happened to be pulled over by some over zealous cop that saw me go over a

line, even if I am looking for something in the seat that distracted me rather

than my medication, there would be no way I would be able to take their walk and

turn, hold your leg up, abc's backward, dui tests. If you so much as answer " yes

I have taken a methadone, oxycontin, hydrocodone, etc. this morning " they will

take you in for a DUI if you can't pass their sobriety tests, they can take

blood from you (or you can refuse and still get charged) and you will go to

jail, the burden of proof comes at the time when they try to prosecute you, not

at the time of arrest. In my line of work I saw DUI drugs being prosecuted quite

a few times and it didn't necessarily have to include an accident. Once it gets

to the level of a trial or prosecution a lot of times attorneys can get it

dropped down to something else or dropped completely, but it doesn't change the

fact that they can arrest you.

I just think people should be aware that if your medication does have an effect

on you and make you LESS SAFE to drive you can go to jail for a DUI. Some people

like you Deb it may not phase what they take, but I can tell it has an effect on

me, so I don't drive very much.

Barb

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> > > Is it possible to drive on these meds? My pain always increases when I

drive.

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[Guest guest]

If you go over the line for ANY reason , you should be pulled over. The way

people drive these days you never know what they are doing .

They deserve to be checked out and at least given a ticket for  driving on the

other side of the road .

From: Barb <ellijaygal@...>

Subject: Re: 2nd Opinion for surgery-meds n driving

spinal problems

Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 9:10 AM

 

Deb,

If you are " less safe to drive " and give a law enforcement a reason to pull you

over you are at risk. I can tell my medications make me less safe, and I know if

I happened to be pulled over by some over zealous cop that saw me go over a

line, even if I am looking for something in the seat that distracted me rather

than my medication, there would be no way I would be able to take their walk and

turn, hold your leg up, abc's backward, dui tests. If you so much as answer " yes

I have taken a methadone, oxycontin, hydrocodone, etc. this morning " they will

take you in for a DUI if you can't pass their sobriety tests, they can take

blood from you (or you can refuse and still get charged) and you will go to

jail, the burden of proof comes at the time when they try to prosecute you, not

at the time of arrest. In my line of work I saw DUI drugs being prosecuted quite

a few times and it didn't necessarily have to include an accident. Once it gets

to the level of a

trial or prosecution a lot of times attorneys can get it dropped down to

something else or dropped completely, but it doesn't change the fact that they

can arrest you.

I just think people should be aware that if your medication does have an effect

on you and make you LESS SAFE to drive you can go to jail for a DUI. Some people

like you Deb it may not phase what they take, but I can tell it has an effect on

me, so I don't drive very much.

Barb

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> > > Is it possible to drive on these meds? My pain always increases when I

drive.

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[Guest guest]

Over the line? Do u mean in oncoming traffic?

I have been on high dose opiates for the last 10 plus years

In the late 90s was pulled over on my way to work as the cop thought I wAs drunk

uti. As soon as he pulled me over I spoke with him offered to take sobriey

test at which time he said not necessary.... Just as people drive with their

arms and legs casted or splinted. Which is against the law as well....only the

person doing the driving can say if they are impaired. Just as there are many

elderly that should not be driving. My point is it is very individual. One

vicodin can impair Joe and Jim cam be taking 32 mg of dilaudid and no one would

ever think they had taken anything other then Tylenol.

Barb are ur meds relatively new?

Deb rn

Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Batzinger <pbatzinger@...> wrote:

If you go over the line for ANY reason , you should be pulled over. The way

people drive these days you never know what they are doing .

They deserve to be checked out and at least given a ticket for driving on the

other side of the road .

From: Barb <ellijaygal@...>

Subject: Re: 2nd Opinion for surgery-meds n driving

spinal problems

Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 9:10 AM

Deb,

If you are " less safe to drive " and give a law enforcement a reason to pull you

over you are at risk. I can tell my medications make me less safe, and I know if

I happened to be pulled over by some over zealous cop that saw me go over a

line, even if I am looking for something in the seat that distracted me rather

than my medication, there would be no way I would be able to take their walk and

turn, hold your leg up, abc's backward, dui tests. If you so much as answer " yes

I have taken a methadone, oxycontin, hydrocodone, etc. this morning " they will

take you in for a DUI if you can't pass their sobriety tests, they can take

blood from you (or you can refuse and still get charged) and you will go to

jail, the burden of proof comes at the time when they try to prosecute you, not

at the time of arrest. In my line of work I saw DUI drugs being prosecuted quite

a few times and it didn't necessarily have to include an accident. Once it gets

to the level of a

trial or prosecution a lot of times attorneys can get it dropped down to

something else or dropped completely, but it doesn't change the fact that they

can arrest you.

I just think people should be aware that if your medication does have an effect

on you and make you LESS SAFE to drive you can go to jail for a DUI. Some people

like you Deb it may not phase what they take, but I can tell it has an effect on

me, so I don't drive very much.

Barb

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> > > Is it possible to drive on these meds? My pain always increases when I

drive.

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[Guest guest]

Yes , I did mean into oncoming traffic.

And yes , this is an individual choice to drive in any condition whether it be

alcohol,drugs,whatever . People think things will not happen to them,and if it

does, does it bring back the person that you just caused a serious injury to or

even killed.

I was a police officer for 30 yrs,and I cant tell you the number of people who

thought they were ok to drive until they got into an accident. One accident i

was involved in, the kid took hydrocodone with beer, thought he was ok to drive

from what his mother told us. He ended killing himself and four of his friends

by making a stupid decision. I was on pain and muscle pills after all of my

surgeries and NEVER made the decision to drive .

It is everyone decision , dont think you are ok to drive just becasue you have

taken the pills before ,driven and nothing happened .

________________________________

From: " I_ownaberner@... " <i_ownaberner@...>

" spinal problems "

<spinal problems >

Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 3:52:55 PM

Subject: Re: Re: 2nd Opinion for surgery-meds n

driving

Over the line? Do u mean in oncoming traffic?

I have been on high dose opiates for the last 10 plus years

In the late 90s was pulled over on my way to work as the cop thought I wAs drunk

uti. As soon as he pulled me over I spoke with him offered to take sobriey

test at which time he said not necessary.... Just as people drive with their

arms and legs casted or splinted. Which is against the law as well....only the

person doing the driving can say if they are impaired. Just as there are many

elderly that should not be driving. My point is it is very individual. One

vicodin can impair Joe and Jim cam be taking 32 mg of dilaudid and no one would

ever think they had taken anything other then Tylenol.

Barb are ur meds relatively new?

Deb rn

Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Batzinger <pbatzinger@...> wrote:

If you go over the line for ANY reason , you should be pulled over. The way

people drive these days you never know what they are doing .

They deserve to be checked out and at least given a ticket for driving on the

other side of the road .

From: Barb <ellijaygal@...>

Subject: Re: 2nd Opinion for surgery-meds n driving

spinal problems

Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 9:10 AM

Deb,

If you are " less safe to drive " and give a law enforcement a reason to pull you

over you are at risk. I can tell my medications make me less safe, and I know if

I happened to be pulled over by some over zealous cop that saw me go over a

line, even if I am looking for something in the seat that distracted me rather

than my medication, there would be no way I would be able to take their walk and

turn, hold your leg up, abc's backward, dui tests. If you so much as answer " yes

I have taken a methadone, oxycontin, hydrocodone, etc. this morning " they will

take you in for a DUI if you can't pass their sobriety tests, they can take

blood from you (or you can refuse and still get charged) and you will go to

jail, the burden of proof comes at the time when they try to prosecute you, not

at the time of arrest. In my line of work I saw DUI drugs being prosecuted quite

a few times and it didn't necessarily have to include an accident. Once it gets

to the level of a

trial or prosecution a lot of times attorneys can get it dropped down to

something else or dropped completely, but it doesn't change the fact that they

can arrest you.

I just think people should be aware that if your medication does have an effect

on you and make you LESS SAFE to drive you can go to jail for a DUI. Some people

like you Deb it may not phase what they take, but I can tell it has an effect on

me, so I don't drive very much.

Barb

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> > > Is it possible to drive on these meds? My pain always increases when I

drive.

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