sinus infections

[Guest guest]

I have a sinus infection going on now and even with the Kflex I am taking so

I dont get infection on my surgery , it doesnt help the sinuses..My son's dr

told him yrs ago to inhale water off his cupped hand in a hot shower ...he

does this all the time now....he has had full sinuses all year long....and

this really works for him...me, I suffer and usuually take erythromyacin and

some decongestant....but I am on enough meds already..this one just needs to

clear out soon ..driving me nuts..Good luck Sue. Judy in AZ

[Guest guest]

OK, I have a question, in the case of a sinus infection, what would be

the treatment? If AB's don't work?

~Rainy Sue

Sue,

Ohh- Sinus infections. Almost as painful as childbirth. I have had

success with the following " therapy " . It consists or rinsing out your

sinus passages. An RN told me how to do this and stated that rinsing

out the infection would help speed the healing. Warning - this is

gross (even per my 8 yr old son)

1- Make sterile salt water. Boil 2 cups water, then add 3 tablespoons

salt. (This makes ~ 9% saline solution). Stir until salt is

dissolved. Let cool and store in clean container. Keep covered at

room temperature. (It tastes terrible!)

2- Rinse each nostril/sinus. Besides rinsing, the salt water also

felt hydrating. Sometimes I would have an infection but have no drip,

even be dried out because of decongestants. Ok- the gross part.

*Get a funnel.

*Get the salt water and a tablespoon (for measuring).

*Lie on the bathroom floor with a towel for a pillow. I usually lie to

one side so the saltwater doesn't rush in

*Have additional towel ready close by

*Place the funnel slightly into one nostril

*Poor in One tablespoon Salt water

*Plug the other nostril

*Try to gently, hmm, snort in the salt water

Hey, stop laughing.

3- Blow out salt water. Gentle is the key here. Some will

(hopefully) also drip out the back. When I first started, the mucus

was very dark, then lightened up after a few days. Don't blow so hard

that you see blood.

4- Do the other side.

I once had a yoga teacher who used a special clay container that

looked like an Aladdin's lamp.

Of course, you could just put the warm washcloth back over your face

and pray.

Good luck

Alice in Espanola

(Who hasn't had an allergy or sinus problem since going on Predinsone

Yeah!)

[Guest guest]

Your description of how you take care of your sinus infections is pretty

much the same as the old fashioned doctors who used a type of tube to flush

the sinus cavities with. I keep saline nose drops around, but there

probably isn't enough force to flush as well as a funnel. I just might try

your method. I know it is just too hard to stay off my Enbrel when I have

these problems with my sinuses. Allegra just isn't keeping infections at

bay the way it used to./

-----Original Message-----

From: askehan@... [mailto:askehan@...]

Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 3:54 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Sinus Infections

OK, I have a question, in the case of a sinus infection, what would be

the treatment? If AB's don't work?

~Rainy Sue

Sue,

Ohh- Sinus infections. Almost as painful as childbirth. I have had

success with the following " therapy " . It consists or rinsing out your

sinus passages. An RN told me how to do this and stated that rinsing

out the infection would help speed the healing. Warning - this is

gross (even per my 8 yr old son)

1- Make sterile salt water. Boil 2 cups water, then add 3 tablespoons

salt. (This makes ~ 9% saline solution). Stir until salt is

dissolved. Let cool and store in clean container. Keep covered at

room temperature. (It tastes terrible!)

2- Rinse each nostril/sinus. Besides rinsing, the salt water also

felt hydrating. Sometimes I would have an infection but have no drip,

even be dried out because of decongestants. Ok- the gross part.

*Get a funnel.

*Get the salt water and a tablespoon (for measuring).

*Lie on the bathroom floor with a towel for a pillow. I usually lie to

one side so the saltwater doesn't rush in

*Have additional towel ready close by

*Place the funnel slightly into one nostril

*Poor in One tablespoon Salt water

*Plug the other nostril

*Try to gently, hmm, snort in the salt water

Hey, stop laughing.

3- Blow out salt water. Gentle is the key here. Some will

(hopefully) also drip out the back. When I first started, the mucus

was very dark, then lightened up after a few days. Don't blow so hard

that you see blood.

4- Do the other side.

I once had a yoga teacher who used a special clay container that

looked like an Aladdin's lamp.

Of course, you could just put the warm washcloth back over your face

and pray.

Good luck

Alice in Espanola

(Who hasn't had an allergy or sinus problem since going on Predinsone

Yeah!)

[Guest guest]

Morning Anne,

Hope you are well. So happy to hear how you have helped your friend. That zapper does sound interesting and obviously, it seems to work.

I do not ail from sinus infections but I do suffer from sinus congestion every single day of my life for the past three years along with allergies to the grass and such outside. I am a nature girl! LOL I am quite a sight when mowing the grass here as one would think I am having a severe asthma attack. I just come in shower and literally drown my face and nose with water and I am okay if only itchy for a while.

Green mucous was always said to be an infection. The only time I am blessed enough ( no pun there) to blow my nose is when I sneeze 100 times in a row. Come to think of it, no sneezing this morning. oh well ..

Have a beautiful day Anne

Blessings

Toni

[Guest guest]

Toni,

Beer will mess up your sinuses quick.. (past years of experience).. Try lemon in the distilled water 0r RO (reverse osmosis)

Suzitone102@... wrote:

Morning Suzi,

Come on...LOL the beer has hops in it! hehe..I can drink pure water but no distilled. It tastes like metal. Other then that I can listen.

Thankyou Suzi

Hugs!

Suzi

What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Suzi,

Unless I can buy RO water I am out of luck. Still say that distilled tastes like metal. Sorry but it really does make my mouth feel numb but I can do reg water and lemon. As for the beer...it is summer!! lol

Summers are short Suzi this is my only weekend indulgence *sniff* lol

After that I will kick some butts too. haha literally...well my butts that I inhale of course.

Have a beautiful day Suzi

Toni

[Guest guest]

hey! I have a question. is anyone experiencing alot of sinus

infections? i have had about 3 in the past month and i woke up today

experiencing chest tightness, stuffy nose, and coughing. I think i am

starting with another sinus infection. I think i might be experiencing

chest tightness and stuff b/c we have been getting rain like crazy, and

my allergies don't like rain. lol. But does anyone know a cause for

sinus infections right after another. Or do you have any suggestions?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Prior to Xolair I had about 9 sinus infections each year. My

allergies would trigger inflammation in my sinuses and then the

trapped mucus would just become infected.

Addy

--- In , " musiclover0 " <musiclover0@...>

wrote:

>

> hey! I have a question. is anyone experiencing alot of sinus

> infections? i have had about 3 in the past month and i woke up today

> experiencing chest tightness, stuffy nose, and coughing. I think i

am

> starting with another sinus infection. I think i might be

experiencing

> chest tightness and stuff b/c we have been getting rain like crazy,

and

> my allergies don't like rain. lol. But does anyone know a cause for

> sinus infections right after another. Or do you have any suggestions?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is the same infection that hasn't cleared. You may need a omnth of

antibiotics to kill all of the germs. If one germ lives it reproduces &

" another " infection starts. This is a problem for us who have allergies, sinus

problems, and asthma. They are all tied together. Speak to your physician

about 'prophylaxis' with antibiotics for a month. I took care of several people

who had to be on antibiotics for 6 months to clear their sinus infections

because they had so many every year. Now they are all fine.

Pat

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[Guest guest]

AWESOME STEVE!!!

Everyone will have this type of experience eventually. Keep up0 the good wor!

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[Guest guest]

Dear Steve:

I always have had sinus infections and Asthma. I've been on Xolair for one

year and my sinus infections and Asthma have been cut by 75%.

It has to be the Xolair. But I never heard of Asthma causing heartburn?? When

I was diagnosed with acid reflux my HMO sent me info. saying the Asthma inhalers

can cause acid reflux????

Kathy

Steve Zimmerman <steve@...> wrote:

HEY,

I have gone through two sinus surgeries since I have tended to have a

lot of sinus infections, nasal drainage, chest congestion, coughing and

shortness of breath at times for quite a while; especially since October

of last year. The surgery is nothing, it is the follow up exams

immediately after the surgery that I could have been a little more

pleasurable.

I started taking XOLAIR about a couple of months ago ( I take an

injection in each arm every other Friday.) I asked my allergist when I

should see an improvement. Her response was " a number of months. "

Around Tuesday of last week, all of a sudden everything seemed to clear

up. The congestion, coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath and gagging

have seemed to disappear; I still have a little sinus drainage from

time to time but nothing like I have had during the winter months. I can

actually sleep at night. I have only used my inhaler once since then

and even then it was more of a precaution rather than an actual event. I

am actually able to breathe more easily and seem to be less worried

about the shortness of breath I have been experiencing in the past.

I am cautiously optimistic that I am on the upside of everything. I am

confident this experience will last. I am not sure whether this is a

result of XOLAIR or simply because the weather is getting better and the

other medications are doing what they are expected to do or what. It

seems to be a little early for XOLAIR to be doing its thing.

Just to make sure things continue to go well, I am scheduled for a

heartburn (gastric) study this week. Apparently, excessive heartburn

and poor digestion can be a direct cause for asthma. Afterwards, I am

to attend a followup sleep study to determine what settings are needed

for the CPAP machine I am told I need to use.

I hope everyone gets better.......

________________________________

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of msbehavior@...

Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:38 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] sinus infections

The package insert for Xolair lists sinus infections as a possible side

effect of the drug. I spoke with the nurse at Novartis and she confirmed

that this

was true in her experience too.

Meryl

hey! I have a question. is anyone experiencing alot of sinus

infections? i have had about 3 in the past month and i woke up today

experiencing chest tightness, stuffy nose, and coughing. I think i am

starting with another sinus infection. I think i might be experiencing

chest tightness and stuff b/c we have been getting rain like crazy, and

my allergies don't like rain. lol. But does anyone know a cause for

sinus infections right after another. Or do you have any suggestions?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

hi kathy,

unfortunately, GERD/reflux/heartburn seems to go hand in hand with asthma.

from my understanding, the medications we take to help open up and relax our

lungs also relax the sphincter (sp??) muscle that usually keeps stomach acid in

our stomach.

at a point, it becomes a vicious cycle. as we have more trouble breathing, we

take more meds to help that. the more meds we take, the more it relaxes the

sphincter muscle. as the sphincter muscle is relaxed, it allows stomach acid to

escape, which irritates lung tissue, causing more breathing problems...

you can google or goodsearch " asthma GERD " and i'm sure you'll come up with

many reliable sources of information.

as i write this, i am realizing that my sudden increase in night time symptoms

could be b/c i forgot to refil my pepcid....hmmmmmm.......

heather

kathy eisen <kathyh1942@...> wrote:

Dear Steve:

I always have had sinus infections and Asthma. I've been on Xolair for one

year and my sinus infections and Asthma have been cut by 75%.

It has to be the Xolair. But I never heard of Asthma causing heartburn?? When

I was diagnosed with acid reflux my HMO sent me info. saying the Asthma inhalers

can cause acid reflux????

Kathy

Steve Zimmerman <steve@...> wrote:

HEY,

I have gone through two sinus surgeries since I have tended to have a

lot of sinus infections, nasal drainage, chest congestion, coughing and

shortness of breath at times for quite a while; especially since October

of last year. The surgery is nothing, it is the follow up exams

immediately after the surgery that I could have been a little more

pleasurable.

I started taking XOLAIR about a couple of months ago ( I take an

injection in each arm every other Friday.) I asked my allergist when I

should see an improvement. Her response was " a number of months. "

Around Tuesday of last week, all of a sudden everything seemed to clear

up. The congestion, coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath and gagging

have seemed to disappear; I still have a little sinus drainage from

time to time but nothing like I have had during the winter months. I can

actually sleep at night. I have only used my inhaler once since then

and even then it was more of a precaution rather than an actual event. I

am actually able to breathe more easily and seem to be less worried

about the shortness of breath I have been experiencing in the past.

I am cautiously optimistic that I am on the upside of everything. I am

confident this experience will last. I am not sure whether this is a

result of XOLAIR or simply because the weather is getting better and the

other medications are doing what they are expected to do or what. It

seems to be a little early for XOLAIR to be doing its thing.

Just to make sure things continue to go well, I am scheduled for a

heartburn (gastric) study this week. Apparently, excessive heartburn

and poor digestion can be a direct cause for asthma. Afterwards, I am

to attend a followup sleep study to determine what settings are needed

for the CPAP machine I am told I need to use.

I hope everyone gets better.......

________________________________

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of msbehavior@...

Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:38 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] sinus infections

The package insert for Xolair lists sinus infections as a possible side

effect of the drug. I spoke with the nurse at Novartis and she confirmed

that this

was true in her experience too.

Meryl

hey! I have a question. is anyone experiencing alot of sinus

infections? i have had about 3 in the past month and i woke up today

experiencing chest tightness, stuffy nose, and coughing. I think i am

starting with another sinus infection. I think i might be experiencing

chest tightness and stuff b/c we have been getting rain like crazy, and

my allergies don't like rain. lol. But does anyone know a cause for

sinus infections right after another. Or do you have any suggestions?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Bronchodilators (e.g., Serevent, which is in Advair, and albuterol)

may cause relaxation of the sphincter (muscular ring) surrounding the

bottom of the esophagus where it attaches to the stomach. The

sphincter normally only relaxes to let food or liquid pass from the

esophagus into the stomach and should be tight the rest of the time,

preventing relux (backflow) of stomach contents. If the sphincter is

relaxed at other times, the stomach contents (including acid) can

reflux. This is a fairly common side effect of bronchodilators but

doesn't happen to everyone.

Fran

> HEY,

>

> I have gone through two sinus surgeries since I have tended to have

a

> lot of sinus infections, nasal drainage, chest congestion, coughing

and

> shortness of breath at times for quite a while; especially since

October

> of last year. The surgery is nothing, it is the follow up exams

> immediately after the surgery that I could have been a little more

> pleasurable.

>

> I started taking XOLAIR about a couple of months ago ( I take an

> injection in each arm every other Friday.) I asked my allergist

when I

> should see an improvement. Her response was " a number of months. "

>

> Around Tuesday of last week, all of a sudden everything seemed to

clear

> up. The congestion, coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath and

gagging

> have seemed to disappear; I still have a little sinus drainage from

> time to time but nothing like I have had during the winter months.

I can

> actually sleep at night. I have only used my inhaler once since

then

> and even then it was more of a precaution rather than an actual

event. I

> am actually able to breathe more easily and seem to be less worried

> about the shortness of breath I have been experiencing in the

past.

>

> I am cautiously optimistic that I am on the upside of everything. I

am

> confident this experience will last. I am not sure whether this

is a

> result of XOLAIR or simply because the weather is getting better

and the

> other medications are doing what they are expected to do or what.

It

> seems to be a little early for XOLAIR to be doing its thing.

>

> Just to make sure things continue to go well, I am scheduled for a

> heartburn (gastric) study this week. Apparently, excessive

heartburn

> and poor digestion can be a direct cause for asthma. Afterwards, I

am

> to attend a followup sleep study to determine what settings are

needed

> for the CPAP machine I am told I need to use.

>

> I hope everyone gets better.......

>

> ________________________________

>

> From:

[mailto: ]

> On Behalf Of msbehavior@...

> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:38 AM

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] sinus infections

>

>

> The package insert for Xolair lists sinus infections as a possible

side

> effect of the drug. I spoke with the nurse at Novartis and she

confirmed

> that this

> was true in her experience too.

>

> Meryl

> hey! I have a question. is anyone experiencing alot of sinus

> infections? i have had about 3 in the past month and i woke up

today

> experiencing chest tightness, stuffy nose, and coughing. I think i

am

> starting with another sinus infection. I think i might be

experiencing

> chest tightness and stuff b/c we have been getting rain like crazy,

and

> my allergies don't like rain. lol. But does anyone know a cause for

> sinus infections right after another. Or do you have any

suggestions?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your response Kathy.

Well, at the request of my allergist, I went through the 24 - hour

gastric study to evaluate the seriousness of gastric reflux in my

system. As I said, the allergist feels there is a high correlation

between a high level of gastric reflux and having asthma. I had a

small flexible cord placed through my nose down into my esophagus to

evaluate reflux for a 24-hour period of time. I had to make entries

into a diary recording odd occurances such as excessive heartburn,

difficulty swallowing, shortness of breath and other incidences. It was

not bad, the only thing that was bothersome was everytime I swallowed I

felt the cord in my throat. This was a little unnearving because I

constantly felt as though I needed to cough to relieve the feeling. By

the next morning the feeling subsided a bit which made it more

tolerable. I am told it will take a week or so to get the results of

the test.

If anyone is interested in knowing more about this aspect of asthma and

have any questions I can ask my therapist and provide answers to your

questions soon. Give me any questions you might have.

________________________________

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of kathy eisen

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:03 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] sinus infections

Dear Steve:

I always have had sinus infections and Asthma. I've been on Xolair

for one year and my sinus infections and Asthma have been cut by 75%.

It has to be the Xolair. But I never heard of Asthma causing

heartburn?? When I was diagnosed with acid reflux my HMO sent me info.

saying the Asthma inhalers can cause acid reflux????

Kathy

Steve Zimmerman <steve@...> wrote:

HEY,

I have gone through two sinus surgeries since I have tended to have a

lot of sinus infections, nasal drainage, chest congestion, coughing and

shortness of breath at times for quite a while; especially since October

of last year. The surgery is nothing, it is the follow up exams

immediately after the surgery that I could have been a little more

pleasurable.

I started taking XOLAIR about a couple of months ago ( I take an

injection in each arm every other Friday.) I asked my allergist when I

should see an improvement. Her response was " a number of months. "

Around Tuesday of last week, all of a sudden everything seemed to clear

up. The congestion, coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath and gagging

have seemed to disappear; I still have a little sinus drainage from

time to time but nothing like I have had during the winter months. I can

actually sleep at night. I have only used my inhaler once since then

and even then it was more of a precaution rather than an actual event. I

am actually able to breathe more easily and seem to be less worried

about the shortness of breath I have been experiencing in the past.

I am cautiously optimistic that I am on the upside of everything. I am

confident this experience will last. I am not sure whether this is a

result of XOLAIR or simply because the weather is getting better and the

other medications are doing what they are expected to do or what. It

seems to be a little early for XOLAIR to be doing its thing.

Just to make sure things continue to go well, I am scheduled for a

heartburn (gastric) study this week. Apparently, excessive heartburn

and poor digestion can be a direct cause for asthma. Afterwards, I am

to attend a followup sleep study to determine what settings are needed

for the CPAP machine I am told I need to use.

I hope everyone gets better.......

________________________________

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of msbehavior@...

Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:38 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] sinus infections

The package insert for Xolair lists sinus infections as a possible side

effect of the drug. I spoke with the nurse at Novartis and she confirmed

that this

was true in her experience too.

Meryl

hey! I have a question. is anyone experiencing alot of sinus

infections? i have had about 3 in the past month and i woke up today

experiencing chest tightness, stuffy nose, and coughing. I think i am

starting with another sinus infection. I think i might be experiencing

chest tightness and stuff b/c we have been getting rain like crazy, and

my allergies don't like rain. lol. But does anyone know a cause for

sinus infections right after another. Or do you have any suggestions?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Dear Steve:

I'm interested in hearing what your doctor has to say about this test. Please

post when you get the info.

Thanks,

Kathy

Steve Zimmerman <steve@...> wrote:

Thanks for your response Kathy.

Well, at the request of my allergist, I went through the 24 - hour

gastric study to evaluate the seriousness of gastric reflux in my

system. As I said, the allergist feels there is a high correlation

between a high level of gastric reflux and having asthma. I had a

small flexible cord placed through my nose down into my esophagus to

evaluate reflux for a 24-hour period of time. I had to make entries

into a diary recording odd occurances such as excessive heartburn,

difficulty swallowing, shortness of breath and other incidences. It was

not bad, the only thing that was bothersome was everytime I swallowed I

felt the cord in my throat. This was a little unnearving because I

constantly felt as though I needed to cough to relieve the feeling. By

the next morning the feeling subsided a bit which made it more

tolerable. I am told it will take a week or so to get the results of

the test.

If anyone is interested in knowing more about this aspect of asthma and

have any questions I can ask my therapist and provide answers to your

questions soon. Give me any questions you might have.

________________________________

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of kathy eisen

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:03 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] sinus infections

Dear Steve:

I always have had sinus infections and Asthma. I've been on Xolair

for one year and my sinus infections and Asthma have been cut by 75%.

It has to be the Xolair. But I never heard of Asthma causing

heartburn?? When I was diagnosed with acid reflux my HMO sent me info.

saying the Asthma inhalers can cause acid reflux????

Kathy

Steve Zimmerman <steve@...> wrote:

HEY,

I have gone through two sinus surgeries since I have tended to have a

lot of sinus infections, nasal drainage, chest congestion, coughing and

shortness of breath at times for quite a while; especially since October

of last year. The surgery is nothing, it is the follow up exams

immediately after the surgery that I could have been a little more

pleasurable.

I started taking XOLAIR about a couple of months ago ( I take an

injection in each arm every other Friday.) I asked my allergist when I

should see an improvement. Her response was " a number of months. "

Around Tuesday of last week, all of a sudden everything seemed to clear

up. The congestion, coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath and gagging

have seemed to disappear; I still have a little sinus drainage from

time to time but nothing like I have had during the winter months. I can

actually sleep at night. I have only used my inhaler once since then

and even then it was more of a precaution rather than an actual event. I

am actually able to breathe more easily and seem to be less worried

about the shortness of breath I have been experiencing in the past.

I am cautiously optimistic that I am on the upside of everything. I am

confident this experience will last. I am not sure whether this is a

result of XOLAIR or simply because the weather is getting better and the

other medications are doing what they are expected to do or what. It

seems to be a little early for XOLAIR to be doing its thing.

Just to make sure things continue to go well, I am scheduled for a

heartburn (gastric) study this week. Apparently, excessive heartburn

and poor digestion can be a direct cause for asthma. Afterwards, I am

to attend a followup sleep study to determine what settings are needed

for the CPAP machine I am told I need to use.

I hope everyone gets better.......

________________________________

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of msbehavior@...

Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:38 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] sinus infections

The package insert for Xolair lists sinus infections as a possible side

effect of the drug. I spoke with the nurse at Novartis and she confirmed

that this

was true in her experience too.

Meryl

hey! I have a question. is anyone experiencing alot of sinus

infections? i have had about 3 in the past month and i woke up today

experiencing chest tightness, stuffy nose, and coughing. I think i am

starting with another sinus infection. I think i might be experiencing

chest tightness and stuff b/c we have been getting rain like crazy, and

my allergies don't like rain. lol. But does anyone know a cause for

sinus infections right after another. Or do you have any suggestions?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Dear :

Thanks for the info. at least I know I'm not the only one. For a while there

I thought it was just me.....

Thanks again,

Kathy

heather <heaven1975@...> wrote:

hi kathy,

unfortunately, GERD/reflux/heartburn seems to go hand in hand with asthma.

from my understanding, the medications we take to help open up and relax our

lungs also relax the sphincter (sp??) muscle that usually keeps stomach acid in

our stomach.

at a point, it becomes a vicious cycle. as we have more trouble breathing, we

take more meds to help that. the more meds we take, the more it relaxes the

sphincter muscle. as the sphincter muscle is relaxed, it allows stomach acid to

escape, which irritates lung tissue, causing more breathing problems...

you can google or goodsearch " asthma GERD " and i'm sure you'll come up with

many reliable sources of information.

as i write this, i am realizing that my sudden increase in night time symptoms

could be b/c i forgot to refil my pepcid....hmmmmmm.......

heather

kathy eisen <kathyh1942@...> wrote:

Dear Steve:

I always have had sinus infections and Asthma. I've been on Xolair for one

year and my sinus infections and Asthma have been cut by 75%.

It has to be the Xolair. But I never heard of Asthma causing heartburn?? When

I was diagnosed with acid reflux my HMO sent me info. saying the Asthma inhalers

can cause acid reflux????

Kathy

Steve Zimmerman <steve@...> wrote:

HEY,

I have gone through two sinus surgeries since I have tended to have a

lot of sinus infections, nasal drainage, chest congestion, coughing and

shortness of breath at times for quite a while; especially since October

of last year. The surgery is nothing, it is the follow up exams

immediately after the surgery that I could have been a little more

pleasurable.

I started taking XOLAIR about a couple of months ago ( I take an

injection in each arm every other Friday.) I asked my allergist when I

should see an improvement. Her response was " a number of months. "

Around Tuesday of last week, all of a sudden everything seemed to clear

up. The congestion, coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath and gagging

have seemed to disappear; I still have a little sinus drainage from

time to time but nothing like I have had during the winter months. I can

actually sleep at night. I have only used my inhaler once since then

and even then it was more of a precaution rather than an actual event. I

am actually able to breathe more easily and seem to be less worried

about the shortness of breath I have been experiencing in the past.

I am cautiously optimistic that I am on the upside of everything. I am

confident this experience will last. I am not sure whether this is a

result of XOLAIR or simply because the weather is getting better and the

other medications are doing what they are expected to do or what. It

seems to be a little early for XOLAIR to be doing its thing.

Just to make sure things continue to go well, I am scheduled for a

heartburn (gastric) study this week. Apparently, excessive heartburn

and poor digestion can be a direct cause for asthma. Afterwards, I am

to attend a followup sleep study to determine what settings are needed

for the CPAP machine I am told I need to use.

I hope everyone gets better.......

________________________________

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of msbehavior@...

Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:38 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] sinus infections

The package insert for Xolair lists sinus infections as a possible side

effect of the drug. I spoke with the nurse at Novartis and she confirmed

that this

was true in her experience too.

Meryl

hey! I have a question. is anyone experiencing alot of sinus

infections? i have had about 3 in the past month and i woke up today

experiencing chest tightness, stuffy nose, and coughing. I think i am

starting with another sinus infection. I think i might be experiencing

chest tightness and stuff b/c we have been getting rain like crazy, and

my allergies don't like rain. lol. But does anyone know a cause for

sinus infections right after another. Or do you have any suggestions?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

if there's one thing i've learned from talking to people.......

rarely, if ever, are you ever " the only one " with a symptom!!!!

heather

kathy eisen <kathyh1942@...> wrote:

Dear :

Thanks for the info. at least I know I'm not the only one. For a while there

I thought it was just me.....

Thanks again,

Kathy

heather <heaven1975@...> wrote:

hi kathy,

unfortunately, GERD/reflux/heartburn seems to go hand in hand with asthma.

from my understanding, the medications we take to help open up and relax our

lungs also relax the sphincter (sp??) muscle that usually keeps stomach acid in

our stomach.

at a point, it becomes a vicious cycle. as we have more trouble breathing, we

take more meds to help that. the more meds we take, the more it relaxes the

sphincter muscle. as the sphincter muscle is relaxed, it allows stomach acid to

escape, which irritates lung tissue, causing more breathing problems...

you can google or goodsearch " asthma GERD " and i'm sure you'll come up with

many reliable sources of information.

as i write this, i am realizing that my sudden increase in night time symptoms

could be b/c i forgot to refil my pepcid....hmmmmmm.......

heather

kathy eisen <kathyh1942@...> wrote:

Dear Steve:

I always have had sinus infections and Asthma. I've been on Xolair for one

year and my sinus infections and Asthma have been cut by 75%.

It has to be the Xolair. But I never heard of Asthma causing heartburn?? When

I was diagnosed with acid reflux my HMO sent me info. saying the Asthma inhalers

can cause acid reflux????

Kathy

Steve Zimmerman <steve@...> wrote:

HEY,

I have gone through two sinus surgeries since I have tended to have a

lot of sinus infections, nasal drainage, chest congestion, coughing and

shortness of breath at times for quite a while; especially since October

of last year. The surgery is nothing, it is the follow up exams

immediately after the surgery that I could have been a little more

pleasurable.

I started taking XOLAIR about a couple of months ago ( I take an

injection in each arm every other Friday.) I asked my allergist when I

should see an improvement. Her response was " a number of months. "

Around Tuesday of last week, all of a sudden everything seemed to clear

up. The congestion, coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath and gagging

have seemed to disappear; I still have a little sinus drainage from

time to time but nothing like I have had during the winter months. I can

actually sleep at night. I have only used my inhaler once since then

and even then it was more of a precaution rather than an actual event. I

am actually able to breathe more easily and seem to be less worried

about the shortness of breath I have been experiencing in the past.

I am cautiously optimistic that I am on the upside of everything. I am

confident this experience will last. I am not sure whether this is a

result of XOLAIR or simply because the weather is getting better and the

other medications are doing what they are expected to do or what. It

seems to be a little early for XOLAIR to be doing its thing.

Just to make sure things continue to go well, I am scheduled for a

heartburn (gastric) study this week. Apparently, excessive heartburn

and poor digestion can be a direct cause for asthma. Afterwards, I am

to attend a followup sleep study to determine what settings are needed

for the CPAP machine I am told I need to use.

I hope everyone gets better.......

________________________________

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of msbehavior@...

Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:38 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] sinus infections

The package insert for Xolair lists sinus infections as a possible side

effect of the drug. I spoke with the nurse at Novartis and she confirmed

that this

was true in her experience too.

Meryl

hey! I have a question. is anyone experiencing alot of sinus

infections? i have had about 3 in the past month and i woke up today

experiencing chest tightness, stuffy nose, and coughing. I think i am

starting with another sinus infection. I think i might be experiencing

chest tightness and stuff b/c we have been getting rain like crazy, and

my allergies don't like rain. lol. But does anyone know a cause for

sinus infections right after another. Or do you have any suggestions?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

There's the problem, your husband actually only grew heavy growths

of staph and like all good labs that have NO IDEA what the psatient

looks like or feels, so they have a mcdonalds approach to

diagnosis.staph areus is common in 33% of population- a staph epi is

common in 99% of the population BUT the problems often lie in the 4

species of staph epi in the sinus that are pushed to the side- THEY

PRODUCE NASTY TOXINS TO AVOID being KILLED BY NASTY FUNGUS " S so

everytime they feel threatened you get sick because they INTOXICATE

YOU.You know the exfoliating lips mouth sores and the like that you

discuss are right at the feet of these critters...But the other

clencher in sinus disease is the pseudonmas is definately not an

accepted commonsal.

The staph areus that is MRSA is treated with minocycline/rifampin

combo- I don't see how succesfully this has been done, but it's in

the literature.

> > >

> > > But what has to be in your sinus for it to be considered a

> > pathogen,

> > > assuming you dont have sinus or upper respiratory symptoms?

> > >

> > > Isnt there a flora up there thats supposed to be there? What

> > finding

> > > would we be after?

> > >

> > > With bone I guess its much simpler as theres not believed to

be

> a

> > > commensal flora there.

> > >

> > > > What would be simpler for everyone is if people would

attempt

> to

> > > get dx'd

> > > > for infectious diseases that are acknowledged by medicine

and

> > paid

> > > for by

> > > > insurance. Instead of focusing all our efforts on

> controversial

> > > infectious

> > > > diseases that are hard to test for (like lyme and

mycoplasma),

> > why

> > > not go

> > > > after dx's that are pretty uncontestable? For example, the

> sinus

> > > and bone

> > > > infections that so many of us have (among others). Insurance

> > > companies will

> > > > pay to treat these diseases indefinitely, once you can get

the

> > dx.

> > > One,

> > > > because they can't argue the existence of sinus infections,

> and

> > > two, because

> > > > osteomyelitis (bone infection) is considered life

threatening.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Marie, is he using the spinning blade or just suction? If he's going in with a blade, I'd take a step back. There's a new baloon sinuplasty that is way less invasive and damaging than the blade, and they suction the goop out. His "cleaning", if blades are involved, will just destroy the cillia in your sinuses, which are supposed to do the cleaning for you. With 4 surgeries, you may have very little cillia left. If that's the case, you might need to regularly do sinus irrigation. pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: I have had sinus infections for nearly 20 years. Yes,literally. Not a day that I don't have the green,yellow, sometimes bloody gook running down the back ofmy throat. Having my 5th surgery in 2 weeks. I sworethat I would not have another surgery as surgery hasnever cured me. The reason I am consenting is becausehe told me he is going to do a lot of cultures. Iwonder what I should ask for. Already know I havepsuedomonas. I basically don't have any sinuses left so function isnot the reason for surgery. My understanding is thathe is going to clean, clean , clean. Marie--- jellybelly92008 <herranenbhotmail> wrote:> Tony, So what is the treatment for a sinus> infection? different ABX? > How easy are sinus infections to diagnose? It would> seem easy.> > But it isn't, even when you have green snot>

literally running out > your nose for months. My husband got a sinus> infection that > eventually spread into 3 sinus cavities from 1. They> cultrued 3 > times, and came back with NADA. He was on months of> ABX for sinus > infections and NADA. They shoved needles into his> face 2 times to > try to flush out the infection, NADA. Eventually he> had to have yet > another sinus surgery.> > What were the doctors not testing for? Doing what> Penny suggested > and stop going after the obscure illness and go> after what is known, > doesn't always work. He spent 9 months with several> docs on a sinus > infection with no relief what so ever, until> surgery. I would think > they would have been looking for staph along with> whatever else? > > > > >> > > But what has to be in your sinus for it to be> considered a > > pathogen, > > > assuming you dont have sinus or

upper> respiratory symptoms? > > > > > > Isnt there a flora up there thats supposed to be> there? What > > finding > > > would we be after? > > > > > > With bone I guess its much simpler as theres not> believed to be > a > > > commensal flora there. > > > > > > > What would be simpler for everyone is if> people would attempt > to > > > get dx'd> > > > for infectious diseases that are acknowledged> by medicine and > > paid > > > for by> > > > insurance. Instead of focusing all our efforts> on > controversial > > > infectious> > > > diseases that are hard to test for (like lyme> and mycoplasma), > > why > > > not go> > > > after dx's that are pretty

uncontestable? For> example, the > sinus > > > and bone> > > > infections that so many of us have (among> others). Insurance > > > companies will> > > > pay to treat these diseases indefinitely, once> you can get the > > dx. > > > One,> > > > because they can't argue the existence of> sinus infections, > and > > > two, because> > > > osteomyelitis (bone infection) is considered> life threatening.> > >> >> > > > > > __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I am sure I have very little cilia left and I do

regular irrigation.

I am not sure of his technique. He said he wanted to

suction and really clean and take cultures. I guess I

need to talk to him again. I am about to call his

office as don't have any more office visits scheduled

before the surgery. He knows there is not much left of

my sinuses as he has taken two catscans since last

Sept. The passages are clear but there is disease in

the maxilarry and ethmoid sinuses that won't clear.

Occasionally I irrigate thick rubbery brown gunk. I

immagine that is what is sitting there. Too old and

thick to come out.

He is using an advance imaging technique so he knows

exactly where he is and an endoscope.I expressed to

him that I didn't want cutting just cleaning. He seems

very cautious about doing more damage and is viewing

surgery as a last resort so I am cautiously optimistic

that he knows what he is doing. I read your report

about the balloon technique. I don't think opening is

the issue. The CAT shows that the sinuses are huge and

open from previous surgeries.

Marie

--- Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote:

> Marie, is he using the spinning blade or just

> suction? If he's going in with a blade, I'd take a

> step back. There's a new baloon sinuplasty that is

> way less invasive and damaging than the blade, and

> they suction the goop out. His " cleaning " , if blades

> are involved, will just destroy the cillia in your

> sinuses, which are supposed to do the cleaning for

> you. With 4 surgeries, you may have very little

> cillia left. If that's the case, you might need to

> regularly do sinus irrigation.

>

> penny

>

> Marie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote:

> I have had sinus infections for nearly 20

> years. Yes,

> literally. Not a day that I don't have the green,

> yellow, sometimes bloody gook running down the back

> of

> my throat. Having my 5th surgery in 2 weeks. I swore

> that I would not have another surgery as surgery has

> never cured me. The reason I am consenting is

> because

> he told me he is going to do a lot of cultures. I

> wonder what I should ask for. Already know I have

> psuedomonas.

>

> I basically don't have any sinuses left so function

> is

> not the reason for surgery. My understanding is that

> he is going to clean, clean , clean.

> Marie

>

> --- jellybelly92008 <herranenb@...> wrote:

>

> > Tony, So what is the treatment for a sinus

> > infection? different ABX?

> > How easy are sinus infections to diagnose? It

> would

> > seem easy.

> >

> > But it isn't, even when you have green snot

> > literally running out

> > your nose for months. My husband got a sinus

> > infection that

> > eventually spread into 3 sinus cavities from 1.

> They

> > cultrued 3

> > times, and came back with NADA. He was on months

> of

> > ABX for sinus

> > infections and NADA. They shoved needles into his

> > face 2 times to

> > try to flush out the infection, NADA. Eventually

> he

> > had to have yet

> > another sinus surgery.

> >

> > What were the doctors not testing for? Doing what

> > Penny suggested

> > and stop going after the obscure illness and go

> > after what is known,

> > doesn't always work. He spent 9 months with

> several

> > docs on a sinus

> > infection with no relief what so ever, until

> > surgery. I would think

> > they would have been looking for staph along with

> > whatever else?

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > But what has to be in your sinus for it to be

> > considered a

> > > pathogen,

> > > > assuming you dont have sinus or upper

> > respiratory symptoms?

> > > >

> > > > Isnt there a flora up there thats supposed to

> be

> > there? What

> > > finding

> > > > would we be after?

> > > >

> > > > With bone I guess its much simpler as theres

> not

> > believed to be

> > a

> > > > commensal flora there.

> > > >

> > > > > What would be simpler for everyone is if

> > people would attempt

> > to

> > > > get dx'd

> > > > > for infectious diseases that are

> acknowledged

> > by medicine and

> > > paid

> > > > for by

> > > > > insurance. Instead of focusing all our

> efforts

> > on

> > controversial

> > > > infectious

> > > > > diseases that are hard to test for (like

> lyme

> > and mycoplasma),

> > > why

> > > > not go

> > > > > after dx's that are pretty uncontestable?

> For

> > example, the

> > sinus

> > > > and bone

> > > > > infections that so many of us have (among

> > others). Insurance

> > > > companies will

> > > > > pay to treat these diseases indefinitely,

> once

> > you can get the

> > > dx.

> > > > One,

> > > > > because they can't argue the existence of

> > sinus infections,

> > and

> > > > two, because

> > > > > osteomyelitis (bone infection) is considered

> > life threatening.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

That's a relief. Suctioning sounds good. Best of luck,

Marie. He sounds like a very decent ENT.

penny

--- Marie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote:

> I am sure I have very little cilia left and I do

> regular irrigation.

>

> I am not sure of his technique. He said he wanted to

> suction and really clean and take cultures. I guess

> I

> need to talk to him again. I am about to call his

> office as don't have any more office visits

> scheduled

> before the surgery. He knows there is not much left

> of

> my sinuses as he has taken two catscans since last

> Sept. The passages are clear but there is disease in

> the maxilarry and ethmoid sinuses that won't clear.

> Occasionally I irrigate thick rubbery brown gunk. I

> immagine that is what is sitting there. Too old and

> thick to come out.

>

> He is using an advance imaging technique so he knows

> exactly where he is and an endoscope.I expressed to

> him that I didn't want cutting just cleaning. He

> seems

> very cautious about doing more damage and is viewing

> surgery as a last resort so I am cautiously

> optimistic

> that he knows what he is doing. I read your report

> about the balloon technique. I don't think opening

> is

> the issue. The CAT shows that the sinuses are huge

> and

> open from previous surgeries.

>

> Marie

>

>

[Guest guest]

On 9/9/1999, the Mayo Clinic reported that all sinus infections are caused by

fungus. Take natural antifungals.

Amber

I use to get 1 or 2 sinus infections every year

.

[Guest guest]

Complete crap. While some sinus infections are " caused " by fungus, others are

bacteria, viral or yeast in nature. Even then this is a misnomer. The

environment is designed to handle the invasion of the above, an unavoidable

reality of taking air in through the nose. It is only when either the

environment is out of balance, the " immune system " is compromised, necessary

nutrients for maintaining healthore absent, etc. that a " sinus infection " sets

in. One shot magic decrees by the Gods of Medicine is ridiculous and laughable

at best. -D

----- Original Message -----

From: Amber <mailto:amber@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:31 AM

Subject: Re: sinus infections

On 9/9/1999, the Mayo Clinic reported that all sinus infections are caused by

fungus. Take natural antifungals.

Amber

I use to get 1 or 2 sinus infections every year

.

[Guest guest]

Well, golly I guess you need to tell that to the Mayo Clinic then.

Amber

Complete crap. While some sinus infections are " caused " by fungus, others are

bacteria, viral or yeast in nature. Even then this is a misnomer. The

environment is designed to handle the invasion of the above, an unavoidable

reality of taking air in through the nose. It is only when either the

environment is out of balance, the " immune system " is compromised, necessary

nutrients for maintaining healthore absent, etc. that a " sinus infection " sets

in. One shot magic decrees by the Gods of Medicine is ridiculous and laughable

at best. -D

.

[Guest guest]

When did we start listening to the Mayo Clinic?

Evie

>

> On 9/9/1999, the Mayo Clinic reported that all sinus infections are

caused by fungus. Take natural antifungals.

>

> Amber