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I missed a few things in there, shoud be isnt coming back not is coming back to

employer. I think you all will figure out what I meant I sure hope so. I did try

to edit it but missed them. sorry folks chris

I don't know whether I have told my story or not about how I became involved

with this group. I was injured at work in 2000. Previously I had a cervical

laminectomy diskectomy done in 1997 for C5-6. It went well postoperatively and I

returned to work and no more pain or nothing. Then doing the same thing at work

hanging my headover the desk and computer for 12hrs. this day it finally gave

again. C6-7 was herniated this time. I went for therapy and an mri was ordered.

Found was c6-7 herniated and impingement. I had a cernical fusion with no

hardware(my neck is very short and fat) and from the moment I awoke from the

surgery I had a different pain, stabbing and burning between the should blades.

I would lay in bed for hours, days and not be able to get up. I cried all the

time. No one would listen to me. I had a workman's comp nurse (has anyone had

one?) if so you'll know what I am talking about here. Well, this nurse was male,

and she really took to cecil and I and was very friendly and little did I know

what was going to happen to me and not to trust him. He had done so much to help

me, I thought he was helping me, ya sure and then sure by good luck. Well, he

did get me in to see a pain clinic doc, Dr. Bez who is wonderful as far as

I am concerned. He said to the nurse that I probably was suffering from

radiculopathy pain and my own gp/internist and him decided that they would put

me on long term oxycontin to at least take some of the pain away, by then I was

extremely depressed and didn't do anything but stay in bed(worse thing for me

but didn't know that) and I was evaluated by a psychologist and he said

basically my depression was due to the chronic pain and since we were dealing

with that with oxycontin then close my case there is nothing more that can be

done. My neurosurgeon was one of these kind that did not want to get involved

and said if you are fusing then you are ok and I do not treat work worry about

anyother pain or pains you may have. What a you know what. Well, once the

workmans comp nurse closed my case, I had no insurance, no job to go back to,

because this has gone on over 1 1/2hrs. time and paid me up until then when

nothing could be done anymore. So no health insurance, no help with meds, etc. I

finally got my social security approved and got my medicare so I could go see

another neurosurgeon this past month. He feels that there is something in there

casue this pain, and that yes it was work related all doctors said so from day

one, even their doc, and they found a doc they sent me to and I wonder how much

they paid him to say she could return to work, ya right!!!! I could've have

slapped him in his face and the wc nurse too. O so looking out for me ya right.

Well, I know am seeing the top of neurosurgeons and am getting a better picture

of things and he hopes this myleogram will prove and show that there is somekind

of damage or something going on in there. After awhile you beging to think its

all in your head and then you get someone who knows how you feel and relates and

knows and says no its not in your head, its real, we'll find it. I really don't

want any more surgery, afraid I'll be worse off lthan I am right now, but if I'm

told a good percentage of help then I'll go for it. I am awaiting to see him

this week and hope I have something to take to court. I have been putting off

all court trials till I had a neurosurgeon who would stick up for me, but of

course if nothing found on this myleogram I don't know how much he will stick up

for me or not yet. But he truly feels it is work related and the insurance

company is just trying to get out of paying me, I havnt had any income since

Dec. 2001. My neurosurgeon said they knew I didn't have the neurosurgeon who did

the operation to stick up for me so they figured just stop paying her and she'll

give up and try to find a job. Mind you, I had lost my job where I got hurt,

because I was out for more than 6 months, I worked there 22yrs. Its not like I

was trying to not work, I loved my job, and as you get older you settle in more

and begin to know the ins and outs of the job and it is much easier for me to do

back then when I first began on the job 22yrs. ago. I worked in the health

industry. Its funny how they want good patient care, take away employees for

money purposes, cant afford so many, then chit on you when you get hurt and said

its alright we'll find another sucker, when that one gets hurt that's alright

we'll get another and on and on it goes. They want us to care for their patients

but they don't give a hoot about their employees when they get hurt. As you can

see I have a grudge on my shoulders but after all I have been through, some day

when I get my court hearing I hope to let it go once they get what's coming to

them. My attorney now feels we have a very good case and I surely hope to stick

it to the insurance company, its not my employer at this point, they are out of

the picture, and even my supervisor where I worked doesn't believe the crap I

have had to endure. Your employer really does not know what goes on after

awhile, especially when they know you are coming back, they don't see the chit

the insurancee company really gives to their employee's. Sorry I needed to

vent. Take care all and I'm lurking around. Chris

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I hear ya and when I was put off work and only was able to get medicaid

b/c I have a daughter, I wanted to strangle someone. I was not able to work b/c

of pain, and at the time not knowing I'd never be able to go back, but having

someone tell me you're only getting insurance (medicaid) b/c you have a child is

crap. I needed insurance so I could go back to work and if I hadn't had Kaylee,

I'd have had to pay for it myself, what a crock! I did have cobra avail to me,

and I paid for that with child support money till it ran out, realizing this was

not going to be just a couple weeks off work, I had NO idea what I was in for

back then... then again you're talking to someone who also thought she was

having cramps for the first time in her life, funny how it turned out to be a

ruptured disk. Anyhow, you can't work b/c of medical problems and w/o a job,

cobra smacks ya in the pocket for, in my case, $300/mo for medical insurance,

but that was better than what I could have bee

n facing with doctor bills, tests, etc. If I had added Kaylee to the insurance,

it would have been $525. My child support was only $425/mo. I just didnt think

about going and applying for medicaid at the time b/c like I said, never knew it

would be more than a short time b4 I'd be back to work. Anyhow, during that time

I wanted to be an atty who went back and nailed ins. companies for screwing the

average person, you and me, I hate what they do to those who just need help to

get back to work, not like we're sitting home sponging off the system b/c we're

lazy. Ugh

Connie

:)

> I don't know whether I have told my story or not about how I became involved

with this group. I was injured at work in 2000. Previously I had a cervical

laminectomy diskectomy done in 1997 for C5-6. It went well postoperatively and I

returned to work and no more pain or nothing. Then doing the same thing at work

hanging my headover the desk and computer for 12hrs. this day it finally gave

again. C6-7 was herniated this time. I went for therapy and an mri was ordered.

Found was c6-7 herniated and impingement. I had a cernical fusion with no

hardware(my neck is very short and fat) and from the moment I awoke from the

surgery I had a different pain, stabbing and burning between the should blades.

I would lay in bed for hours, days and not be able to get up. I cried all the

time. No one would listen to me. I had a workman's comp nurse (has anyone had

one?) if so you'll know what I am talking about here. Well, this nurse was male,

and she really took to cecil and I and was ver

y

> friendly and little did I know what was going to happen to me and not to

trust him. He had done so much to help me, I thought he was helping me, ya sure

and then sure by good luck. Well, he did get me in to see a pain clinic doc,

Dr. Bez who is wonderful as far as I am concerned. He said to the nurse

that I probably was suffering from radiculopathy pain and my own gp/internist

and him decided that they would put me on long term oxycontin to at least take

some of the pain away, by then I was extremely depressed and didn't do anything

but stay in bed(worse thing for me but didn't know that) and I was evaluated by

a psychologist and he said basically my depression was due to the chronic pain

and since we were dealing with that with oxycontin then close my case there is

nothing more that can be done. My neurosurgeon was one of these kind that did

not want to get involved and said if you are fusing then you are ok and I do

not treat work worry about anyother pain or pain

s

> you may have. What a you know what. Well, once the workmans comp nurse closed

my case, I had no insurance, no job to go back to, because this has gone on over

1 1/2hrs. time and paid me up until then when nothing could be done anymore. So

no health insurance, no help with meds, etc. I finally got my social security

approved and got my medicare so I could go see another neurosurgeon this past

month. He feels that there is something in there casue this pain, and that yes

it was work related all doctors said so from day one, even their doc, and they

found a doc they sent me to and I wonder how much they paid him to say she could

return to work, ya right!!!! I could've have slapped him in his face and the wc

nurse too. O so looking out for me ya right. Well, I know am seeing the top of

neurosurgeons and am getting a better picture of things and he hopes this

myleogram will prove and show that there is somekind of damage or something

going on in there. After awhile you begin

g

> to think its all in your head and then you get someone who knows how you feel

and relates and knows and says no its not in your head, its real, we'll find it.

I really don't want any more surgery, afraid I'll be worse off lthan I am right

now, but if I'm told a good percentage of help then I'll go for it. I am

awaiting to see him this week and hope I have something to take to court. I have

been putting off all court trials till I had a neurosurgeon who would stick up

for me, but of course if nothing found on this myleogram I don't know how much

he will stick up for me or not yet. But he truly feels it is work related and

the insurance company is just trying to get out of paying me, I havnt had any

income since Dec. 2001. My neurosurgeon said they knew I didn't have the

neurosurgeon who did the operation to stick up for me so they figured just stop

paying her and she'll give up and try to find a job. Mind you, I had lost my job

where I got hurt, because I was out for more t

ha

> n 6 months, I worked there 22yrs. Its not like I was trying to not work, I

loved my job, and as you get older you settle in more and begin to know the ins

and outs of the job and it is much easier for me to do back then when I first

began on the job 22yrs. ago. I worked in the health industry. Its funny how they

want good patient care, take away employees for money purposes, cant afford so

many, then chit on you when you get hurt and said its alright we'll find another

sucker, when that one gets hurt that's alright we'll get another and on and on

it goes. They want us to care for their patients but they don't give a hoot

about their employees when they get hurt. As you can see I have a grudge on my

shoulders but after all I have been through, some day when I get my court

hearing I hope to let it go once they get what's coming to them. My attorney now

feels we have a very good case and I surely hope to stick it to the insurance

company, its not my employer at this point, t

he

> y are out of the picture, and even my supervisor where I worked doesn't

believe the crap I have had to endure. Your employer really does not know what

goes on after awhile, especially when they know you are coming back, they don't

see the chit the insurancee company really gives to their employee's. Sorry I

needed to vent. Take care all and I'm lurking around. Chris

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Never a need to apologize, it happens, thinking faster than we can type.. hehe

Ok now that I said that confession time... I just sent you another email and at

the end when I said " thanks again Chris... it almost said Christ but I noticed

the " T " and took it off, only b/c I had been watching tv and turned back and saw

it, otherwise the t would be there LOL

Connie

>

>

> I don't know whether I have told my story or not about how I became involved

with this group. I was injured at work in 2000. Previously I had a cervical

laminectomy diskectomy done in 1997 for C5-6. It went well postoperatively and I

returned to work and no more pain or nothing. Then doing the same thing at work

hanging my headover the desk and computer for 12hrs. this day it finally gave

again. C6-7 was herniated this time. I went for therapy and an mri was ordered.

Found was c6-7 herniated and impingement. I had a cernical fusion with no

hardware(my neck is very short and fat) and from the moment I awoke from the

surgery I had a different pain, stabbing and burning between the should blades.

I would lay in bed for hours, days and not be able to get up. I cried all the

time. No one would listen to me. I had a workman's comp nurse (has anyone had

one?) if so you'll know what I am talking about here. Well, this nurse was male,

and she really took to cecil and I and was v

er

> y friendly and little did I know what was going to happen to me and not to

trust him. He had done so much to help me, I thought he was helping me, ya sure

and then sure by good luck. Well, he did get me in to see a pain clinic doc,

Dr. Bez who is wonderful as far as I am concerned. He said to the nurse

that I probably was suffering from radiculopathy pain and my own gp/internist

and him decided that they would put me on long term oxycontin to at least take

some of the pain away, by then I was extremely depressed and didn't do anything

but stay in bed(worse thing for me but didn't know that) and I was evaluated by

a psychologist and he said basically my depression was due to the chronic pain

and since we were dealing with that with oxycontin then close my case there is

nothing more that can be done. My neurosurgeon was one of these kind that did

not want to get involved and said if you are fusing then you are ok and I do

not treat work worry about anyother pain or pa

in

> s you may have. What a you know what. Well, once the workmans comp nurse

closed my case, I had no insurance, no job to go back to, because this has gone

on over 1 1/2hrs. time and paid me up until then when nothing could be done

anymore. So no health insurance, no help with meds, etc. I finally got my social

security approved and got my medicare so I could go see another neurosurgeon

this past month. He feels that there is something in there casue this pain, and

that yes it was work related all doctors said so from day one, even their doc,

and they found a doc they sent me to and I wonder how much they paid him to say

she could return to work, ya right!!!! I could've have slapped him in his face

and the wc nurse too. O so looking out for me ya right. Well, I know am seeing

the top of neurosurgeons and am getting a better picture of things and he hopes

this myleogram will prove and show that there is somekind of damage or something

going on in there. After awhile you beg

in

> g to think its all in your head and then you get someone who knows how you

feel and relates and knows and says no its not in your head, its real, we'll

find it. I really don't want any more surgery, afraid I'll be worse off lthan I

am right now, but if I'm told a good percentage of help then I'll go for it. I

am awaiting to see him this week and hope I have something to take to court. I

have been putting off all court trials till I had a neurosurgeon who would stick

up for me, but of course if nothing found on this myleogram I don't know how

much he will stick up for me or not yet. But he truly feels it is work related

and the insurance company is just trying to get out of paying me, I havnt had

any income since Dec. 2001. My neurosurgeon said they knew I didn't have the

neurosurgeon who did the operation to stick up for me so they figured just stop

paying her and she'll give up and try to find a job. Mind you, I had lost my job

where I got hurt, because I was out for more

t

> han 6 months, I worked there 22yrs. Its not like I was trying to not work, I

loved my job, and as you get older you settle in more and begin to know the ins

and outs of the job and it is much easier for me to do back then when I first

began on the job 22yrs. ago. I worked in the health industry. Its funny how they

want good patient care, take away employees for money purposes, cant afford so

many, then chit on you when you get hurt and said its alright we'll find another

sucker, when that one gets hurt that's alright we'll get another and on and on

it goes. They want us to care for their patients but they don't give a hoot

about their employees when they get hurt. As you can see I have a grudge on my

shoulders but after all I have been through, some day when I get my court

hearing I hope to let it go once they get what's coming to them. My attorney now

feels we have a very good case and I surely hope to stick it to the insurance

company, its not my employer at this point,

t

> hey are out of the picture, and even my supervisor where I worked doesn't

believe the crap I have had to endure. Your employer really does not know what

goes on after awhile, especially when they know you are coming back, they don't

see the chit the insurancee company really gives to their employee's. Sorry I

needed to vent. Take care all and I'm lurking around. Chris

>

>

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Hey connie you got that right. I found that most good neurosurgeons wouldn't

take medicaid that is why I had to wait till I got my medicare ins. through my

social security disability. I was able to get cobra while I was getting paid by

wc 365 a month just for me. Of course it ended when I didn't have any income

coming in and then medicaid is just a joke for adults that tis. For children

they do take care of them thank God. But they don't stop to think that we are

those kids parents, lol lo and behold. I just don't get them do you? Its like

you can work whats wrong with you, you LOOK ok. That is the best one of all is't

it.!!!!! I wanted my job back and couldn't go back. If I did I wouldve gotten

fired because I just could not do my work and then I really wouldve been without

nothing, which is what they try to push for. I went through a work study for wc

and they indeed said only very oh I cant think of the word I want to say, anyhow

its not sitting or standing or doing anything much more than 5-10 minutes at a

time. Not able to do more than 2-3 hrs. a day at the most. I also have problems

with my feet at the time, have had them repaired but when I was on my feet all

the time on cement floor under thin carpet I had bone spurs in which my

achillies tendons would wrap up around the spurs and tear. It was very painful.

Had each side done a year apart. They are better but not like they should be

lost lots of strength in my muscles in my legs for not being able to use these

muscles much for a long time due to being in braces and also waiting so long to

have the surgery done. Spacicity is no longer there for walking, still very hard

to walk normally.heal to front to heal etc.I walk like a duck quack quack quack

sorry I had to have a laugh. Chris

> I don't know whether I have told my story or not about how I became involved

with this group. I was injured at work in 2000. Previously I had a cervical

laminectomy diskectomy done in 1997 for C5-6. It went well postoperatively and I

returned to work and no more pain or nothing. Then doing the same thing at work

hanging my headover the desk and computer for 12hrs. this day it finally gave

again. C6-7 was herniated this time. I went for therapy and an mri was ordered.

Found was c6-7 herniated and impingement. I had a cernical fusion with no

hardware(my neck is very short and fat) and from the moment I awoke from the

surgery I had a different pain, stabbing and burning between the should blades.

I would lay in bed for hours, days and not be able to get up. I cried all the

time. No one would listen to me. I had a workman's comp nurse (has anyone had

one?) if so you'll know what I am talking about here. Well, this nurse was male,

and she really took to cecil and I and was ver

y

> friendly and little did I know what was going to happen to me and not to

trust him. He had done so much to help me, I thought he was helping me, ya sure

and then sure by good luck. Well, he did get me in to see a pain clinic doc,

Dr. Bez who is wonderful as far as I am concerned. He said to the nurse

that I probably was suffering from radiculopathy pain and my own gp/internist

and him decided that they would put me on long term oxycontin to at least take

some of the pain away, by then I was extremely depressed and didn't do anything

but stay in bed(worse thing for me but didn't know that) and I was evaluated by

a psychologist and he said basically my depression was due to the chronic pain

and since we were dealing with that with oxycontin then close my case there is

nothing more that can be done. My neurosurgeon was one of these kind that did

not want to get involved and said if you are fusing then you are ok and I do

not treat work worry about anyother pain or pain

s

> you may have. What a you know what. Well, once the workmans comp nurse

closed my case, I had no insurance, no job to go back to, because this has gone

on over 1 1/2hrs. time and paid me up until then when nothing could be done

anymore. So no health insurance, no help with meds, etc. I finally got my social

security approved and got my medicare so I could go see another neurosurgeon

this past month. He feels that there is something in there casue this pain, and

that yes it was work related all doctors said so from day one, even their doc,

and they found a doc they sent me to and I wonder how much they paid him to say

she could return to work, ya right!!!! I could've have slapped him in his face

and the wc nurse too. O so looking out for me ya right. Well, I know am seeing

the top of neurosurgeons and am getting a better picture of things and he hopes

this myleogram will prove and show that there is somekind of damage or something

going on in there. After awhile you begin

g

> to think its all in your head and then you get someone who knows how you

feel and relates and knows and says no its not in your head, its real, we'll

find it. I really don't want any more surgery, afraid I'll be worse off lthan I

am right now, but if I'm told a good percentage of help then I'll go for it. I

am awaiting to see him this week and hope I have something to take to court. I

have been putting off all court trials till I had a neurosurgeon who would stick

up for me, but of course if nothing found on this myleogram I don't know how

much he will stick up for me or not yet. But he truly feels it is work related

and the insurance company is just trying to get out of paying me, I havnt had

any income since Dec. 2001. My neurosurgeon said they knew I didn't have the

neurosurgeon who did the operation to stick up for me so they figured just stop

paying her and she'll give up and try to find a job. Mind you, I had lost my job

where I got hurt, because I was out for more t

ha

> n 6 months, I worked there 22yrs. Its not like I was trying to not work, I

loved my job, and as you get older you settle in more and begin to know the ins

and outs of the job and it is much easier for me to do back then when I first

began on the job 22yrs. ago. I worked in the health industry. Its funny how they

want good patient care, take away employees for money purposes, cant afford so

many, then chit on you when you get hurt and said its alright we'll find another

sucker, when that one gets hurt that's alright we'll get another and on and on

it goes. They want us to care for their patients but they don't give a hoot

about their employees when they get hurt. As you can see I have a grudge on my

shoulders but after all I have been through, some day when I get my court

hearing I hope to let it go once they get what's coming to them. My attorney now

feels we have a very good case and I surely hope to stick it to the insurance

company, its not my employer at this point, t

he

> y are out of the picture, and even my supervisor where I worked doesn't

believe the crap I have had to endure. Your employer really does not know what

goes on after awhile, especially when they know you are coming back, they don't

see the chit the insurancee company really gives to their employee's. Sorry I

needed to vent. Take care all and I'm lurking around. Chris

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Most of my dad's side of family still this day spell my name christ because of

chris tacey. Chris

>

>

> I don't know whether I have told my story or not about how I became

involved with this group. I was injured at work in 2000. Previously I had a

cervical laminectomy diskectomy done in 1997 for C5-6. It went well

postoperatively and I returned to work and no more pain or nothing. Then doing

the same thing at work hanging my headover the desk and computer for 12hrs. this

day it finally gave again. C6-7 was herniated this time. I went for therapy and

an mri was ordered. Found was c6-7 herniated and impingement. I had a cernical

fusion with no hardware(my neck is very short and fat) and from the moment I

awoke from the surgery I had a different pain, stabbing and burning between the

should blades. I would lay in bed for hours, days and not be able to get up. I

cried all the time. No one would listen to me. I had a workman's comp nurse (has

anyone had one?) if so you'll know what I am talking about here. Well, this

nurse was male, and she really took to cecil and I and was v

er

> y friendly and little did I know what was going to happen to me and not to

trust him. He had done so much to help me, I thought he was helping me, ya sure

and then sure by good luck. Well, he did get me in to see a pain clinic doc,

Dr. Bez who is wonderful as far as I am concerned. He said to the nurse

that I probably was suffering from radiculopathy pain and my own gp/internist

and him decided that they would put me on long term oxycontin to at least take

some of the pain away, by then I was extremely depressed and didn't do anything

but stay in bed(worse thing for me but didn't know that) and I was evaluated by

a psychologist and he said basically my depression was due to the chronic pain

and since we were dealing with that with oxycontin then close my case there is

nothing more that can be done. My neurosurgeon was one of these kind that did

not want to get involved and said if you are fusing then you are ok and I do

not treat work worry about anyother pain or pa

in

> s you may have. What a you know what. Well, once the workmans comp nurse

closed my case, I had no insurance, no job to go back to, because this has gone

on over 1 1/2hrs. time and paid me up until then when nothing could be done

anymore. So no health insurance, no help with meds, etc. I finally got my social

security approved and got my medicare so I could go see another neurosurgeon

this past month. He feels that there is something in there casue this pain, and

that yes it was work related all doctors said so from day one, even their doc,

and they found a doc they sent me to and I wonder how much they paid him to say

she could return to work, ya right!!!! I could've have slapped him in his face

and the wc nurse too. O so looking out for me ya right. Well, I know am seeing

the top of neurosurgeons and am getting a better picture of things and he hopes

this myleogram will prove and show that there is somekind of damage or something

going on in there. After awhile you beg

in

> g to think its all in your head and then you get someone who knows how you

feel and relates and knows and says no its not in your head, its real, we'll

find it. I really don't want any more surgery, afraid I'll be worse off lthan I

am right now, but if I'm told a good percentage of help then I'll go for it. I

am awaiting to see him this week and hope I have something to take to court. I

have been putting off all court trials till I had a neurosurgeon who would stick

up for me, but of course if nothing found on this myleogram I don't know how

much he will stick up for me or not yet. But he truly feels it is work related

and the insurance company is just trying to get out of paying me, I havnt had

any income since Dec. 2001. My neurosurgeon said they knew I didn't have the

neurosurgeon who did the operation to stick up for me so they figured just stop

paying her and she'll give up and try to find a job. Mind you, I had lost my job

where I got hurt, because I was out for more

t

> han 6 months, I worked there 22yrs. Its not like I was trying to not work,

I loved my job, and as you get older you settle in more and begin to know the

ins and outs of the job and it is much easier for me to do back then when I

first began on the job 22yrs. ago. I worked in the health industry. Its funny

how they want good patient care, take away employees for money purposes, cant

afford so many, then chit on you when you get hurt and said its alright we'll

find another sucker, when that one gets hurt that's alright we'll get another

and on and on it goes. They want us to care for their patients but they don't

give a hoot about their employees when they get hurt. As you can see I have a

grudge on my shoulders but after all I have been through, some day when I get my

court hearing I hope to let it go once they get what's coming to them. My

attorney now feels we have a very good case and I surely hope to stick it to the

insurance company, its not my employer at this point,

t

> hey are out of the picture, and even my supervisor where I worked doesn't

believe the crap I have had to endure. Your employer really does not know what

goes on after awhile, especially when they know you are coming back, they don't

see the chit the insurancee company really gives to their employee's. Sorry I

needed to vent. Take care all and I'm lurking around. Chris

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A duck LOL

Actually I am thankful that I do have medicaid, and that I had it when my cobra

ran out. Long story short when I moved back home after knowing I was in for a

2nd surgery, I had a list of docs that took medicaid. The first call the line

was busy and finally I thought... if there's an emergency for Kaylee I don't

want a busy signal all the time. So, I called the 2nd doc on the list... this is

the doc I am so thankful for today. Also, the neurosurgeon who did my second

surgery I am also very grateful to and I am so very thankful that he accepted

medicaid.. Considering he's the Chief of Neurosurgery at one of the local

hospitals, director of the pediatric neurosurgical program at another local

hospital, director of the neurosurgical epilepsy program at the first hospital,

does reconstructive surgery of the spine.. to name a few of his top

recognitions. Anyhow, the other thing medicaid has paid for is all of my

medicines and as I'm sure all of you know, are Very expensive. I just

see 0.00 (medicaid you don't pay any copays either) and am SO thankful! I asked

my pharmacist (the one thats moving to Ft Myers FL Waa!) for the breakdown... I

about peed my pants, I knew they were expensive but man the pain patch was a

shocker! Anyhow sorry they don't do more in Cal for people wiht medicaid, that's

one of my concerns I'm looking into with this consideration of moving to FL. I

do have social security coming in now, after fighting for 2 years and 2

turn-downs (won my case just 2 days after a hearing date was finally set) and

also have medicare, but thankfully I still have the medicaid b/c with the income

I have from disability and child support, I barely pay the bills as it is.

Anyhow, glad you won your fight with disability also, how long did it take you?

Connie

>

> > I don't know whether I have told my story or not about how I became

involved with this group. I was injured at work in 2000. Previously I had a

cervical laminectomy diskectomy done in 1997 for C5-6. It went well

postoperatively and I returned to work and no more pain or nothing. Then doing

the same thing at work hanging my headover the desk and computer for 12hrs. this

day it finally gave again. C6-7 was herniated this time. I went for therapy and

an mri was ordered. Found was c6-7 herniated and impingement. I had a cernical

fusion with no hardware(my neck is very short and fat) and from the moment I

awoke from the surgery I had a different pain, stabbing and burning between the

should blades. I would lay in bed for hours, days and not be able to get up. I

cried all the time. No one would listen to me. I had a workman's comp nurse (has

anyone had one?) if so you'll know what I am talking about here. Well, this

nurse was male, and she really took to cecil and I and was

v

> er

> y

> > friendly and little did I know what was going to happen to me and not to

trust him. He had done so much to help me, I thought he was helping me, ya sure

and then sure by good luck. Well, he did get me in to see a pain clinic doc,

Dr. Bez who is wonderful as far as I am concerned. He said to the nurse

that I probably was suffering from radiculopathy pain and my own gp/internist

and him decided that they would put me on long term oxycontin to at least take

some of the pain away, by then I was extremely depressed and didn't do anything

but stay in bed(worse thing for me but didn't know that) and I was evaluated by

a psychologist and he said basically my depression was due to the chronic pain

and since we were dealing with that with oxycontin then close my case there is

nothing more that can be done. My neurosurgeon was one of these kind that did

not want to get involved and said if you are fusing then you are ok and I do

not treat work worry about anyother pain or

pa

> in

> s

> > you may have. What a you know what. Well, once the workmans comp nurse

closed my case, I had no insurance, no job to go back to, because this has gone

on over 1 1/2hrs. time and paid me up until then when nothing could be done

anymore. So no health insurance, no help with meds, etc. I finally got my social

security approved and got my medicare so I could go see another neurosurgeon

this past month. He feels that there is something in there casue this pain, and

that yes it was work related all doctors said so from day one, even their doc,

and they found a doc they sent me to and I wonder how much they paid him to say

she could return to work, ya right!!!! I could've have slapped him in his face

and the wc nurse too. O so looking out for me ya right. Well, I know am seeing

the top of neurosurgeons and am getting a better picture of things and he hopes

this myleogram will prove and show that there is somekind of damage or something

going on in there. After awhile you b

eg

> in

> g

> > to think its all in your head and then you get someone who knows how you

feel and relates and knows and says no its not in your head, its real, we'll

find it. I really don't want any more surgery, afraid I'll be worse off lthan I

am right now, but if I'm told a good percentage of help then I'll go for it. I

am awaiting to see him this week and hope I have something to take to court. I

have been putting off all court trials till I had a neurosurgeon who would stick

up for me, but of course if nothing found on this myleogram I don't know how

much he will stick up for me or not yet. But he truly feels it is work related

and the insurance company is just trying to get out of paying me, I havnt had

any income since Dec. 2001. My neurosurgeon said they knew I didn't have the

neurosurgeon who did the operation to stick up for me so they figured just stop

paying her and she'll give up and try to find a job. Mind you, I had lost my job

where I got hurt, because I was out for mo

re

> t

> ha

> > n 6 months, I worked there 22yrs. Its not like I was trying to not work,

I loved my job, and as you get older you settle in more and begin to know the

ins and outs of the job and it is much easier for me to do back then when I

first began on the job 22yrs. ago. I worked in the health industry. Its funny

how they want good patient care, take away employees for money purposes, cant

afford so many, then chit on you when you get hurt and said its alright we'll

find another sucker, when that one gets hurt that's alright we'll get another

and on and on it goes. They want us to care for their patients but they don't

give a hoot about their employees when they get hurt. As you can see I have a

grudge on my shoulders but after all I have been through, some day when I get my

court hearing I hope to let it go once they get what's coming to them. My

attorney now feels we have a very good case and I surely hope to stick it to the

insurance company, its not my employer at this poin

t,

> t

> he

> > y are out of the picture, and even my supervisor where I worked doesn't

believe the crap I have had to endure. Your employer really does not know what

goes on after awhile, especially when they know you are coming back, they don't

see the chit the insurancee company really gives to their employee's. Sorry I

needed to vent. Take care all and I'm lurking around. Chris

> >

> >

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Ahhh ok gotcha, sorry I didnt mean for it to sound.. well bad, I didn't mean it

that way at all, confusion fixed now lol

So glad you won your disability case, I also won mine back in September, I

received a little over half and the balance right before my birthday in

February.

I would be on the streets right now if I didn't have Kaylee, the child support

is very much needed. My disability is 531/month, child support about 439... Rent

alone is $ 395 (they were nice enought to just raise it on me.. and we're in a 1

bedroom.) My car insurance went up also, $85/mo. Electric average $130/mo, and

other bills also. I'm so glad you're friend is so helpful. The govt just doesn't

make it so you can live, do they!? I have seen some websites recently that I

don't think it matters where you live, and I can't say if they are legit or not,

they came from a good reliable email I received. Sorry all I need to go lay

down, long story/long day. Kaylee is snoozin right now and that is very unusual.

Anyhow I have to lay down, if I dont I'll be more of a zombie than I already

am.

Also sorry about the mix up on where you live, I thought it was Southern Cal.

What part of MI ae you in? Just curious if its near me (Toledo, OH)or posssibly

near my 3rd cousins summer place that they have on the lake, lake, near

Devil's Lake off of 223/127M.

I'll email you those websites for medicine help, sorry I really am about

ready to drop, have to find the email then I will post. As I said I haven't

checked them out personally but hope one could help. I also have some ideas that

worked for me to get my checks here when I was told they would be, no excuse for

delays, will post in a bit... Talk to ya in a bit :)

Connie

> >

> > > I don't know whether I have told my story or not about how I became

involved with this group. I was injured at work in 2000. Previously I had a

cervical laminectomy diskectomy done in 1997 for C5-6. It went well

postoperatively and I returned to work and no more pain or nothing. Then doing

the same thing at work hanging my headover the desk and computer for 12hrs. this

day it finally gave again. C6-7 was herniated this time. I went for therapy and

an mri was ordered. Found was c6-7 herniated and impingement. I had a cernical

fusion with no hardware(my neck is very short and fat) and from the moment I

awoke from the surgery I had a different pain, stabbing and burning between the

should blades. I would lay in bed for hours, days and not be able to get up. I

cried all the time. No one would listen to me. I had a workman's comp nurse (has

anyone had one?) if so you'll know what I am talking about here. Well, this

nurse was male, and she really took to cecil and I and

w

> as

> v

> > er

> > y

> > > friendly and little did I know what was going to happen to me and not

to trust him. He had done so much to help me, I thought he was helping me, ya

sure and then sure by good luck. Well, he did get me in to see a pain clinic

doc, Dr. Bez who is wonderful as far as I am concerned. He said to the

nurse that I probably was suffering from radiculopathy pain and my own

gp/internist and him decided that they would put me on long term oxycontin to at

least take some of the pain away, by then I was extremely depressed and didn't

do anything but stay in bed(worse thing for me but didn't know that) and I was

evaluated by a psychologist and he said basically my depression was due to the

chronic pain and since we were dealing with that with oxycontin then close my

case there is nothing more that can be done. My neurosurgeon was one of these

kind that did not want to get involved and said if you are fusing then you are

ok and I do not treat work worry about anyother pain

o

> r

> pa

> > in

> > s

> > > you may have. What a you know what. Well, once the workmans comp

nurse closed my case, I had no insurance, no job to go back to, because this has

gone on over 1 1/2hrs. time and paid me up until then when nothing could be done

anymore. So no health insurance, no help with meds, etc. I finally got my social

security approved and got my medicare so I could go see another neurosurgeon

this past month. He feels that there is something in there casue this pain, and

that yes it was work related all doctors said so from day one, even their doc,

and they found a doc they sent me to and I wonder how much they paid him to say

she could return to work, ya right!!!! I could've have slapped him in his face

and the wc nurse too. O so looking out for me ya right. Well, I know am seeing

the top of neurosurgeons and am getting a better picture of things and he hopes

this myleogram will prove and show that there is somekind of damage or something

going on in there. After awhile y

ou

> b

> eg

> > in

> > g

> > > to think its all in your head and then you get someone who knows how

you feel and relates and knows and says no its not in your head, its real, we'll

find it. I really don't want any more surgery, afraid I'll be worse off lthan I

am right now, but if I'm told a good percentage of help then I'll go for it. I

am awaiting to see him this week and hope I have something to take to court. I

have been putting off all court trials till I had a neurosurgeon who would stick

up for me, but of course if nothing found on this myleogram I don't know how

much he will stick up for me or not yet. But he truly feels it is work related

and the insurance company is just trying to get out of paying me, I havnt had

any income since Dec. 2001. My neurosurgeon said they knew I didn't have the

neurosurgeon who did the operation to stick up for me so they figured just stop

paying her and she'll give up and try to find a job. Mind you, I had lost my job

where I got hurt, because I was out fo

r

> mo

> re

> > t

> > ha

> > > n 6 months, I worked there 22yrs. Its not like I was trying to not

work, I loved my job, and as you get older you settle in more and begin to know

the ins and outs of the job and it is much easier for me to do back then when I

first began on the job 22yrs. ago. I worked in the health industry. Its funny

how they want good patient care, take away employees for money purposes, cant

afford so many, then chit on you when you get hurt and said its alright we'll

find another sucker, when that one gets hurt that's alright we'll get another

and on and on it goes. They want us to care for their patients but they don't

give a hoot about their employees when they get hurt. As you can see I have a

grudge on my shoulders but after all I have been through, some day when I get my

court hearing I hope to let it go once they get what's coming to them. My

attorney now feels we have a very good case and I surely hope to stick it to the

insurance company, its not my employer at this

po

> in

> t,

> > t

> > he

> > > y are out of the picture, and even my supervisor where I worked

doesn't believe the crap I have had to endure. Your employer really does not

know what goes on after awhile, especially when they know you are coming back,

they don't see the chit the insurancee company really gives to their employee's.

Sorry I needed to vent. Take care all and I'm lurking around. Chris

> > >

> > >

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Know how you feel, I Finally found a job I loved and was forced to leave b/c of

my back. I quit smoking cold turkey on March 15, have had some things going on

here and bought a pack late one night, and then three days later when that was

gone I bought another. But havent had any since. First off on the disability

thing, just fyi to anyone out there, unless you make.. I think it's 25,000yr

your disability amt is Not taxable. They do Not take taxes out of your back

disability pay either.. since this is federal I'm guessing it's the same in each

state but you never know. My atty was paid directly from SS, I never had to send

her a cent out of what I received. Maybe I stated something wrong in my last

email, it's not what they take out, it's how they figure the amount. Like you

said, there is the 6mo. waiting period that you don't get any money for, and tho

after finding that out I still was figuring my amt wrong, but am thankful for

getting any amt in the position I was in. Once

you get your first award letter, you may get another 2 days later with a

different amount b/c they didn't see this or that. You will also receive

Medicare coverage (I'm guessing you applied for it at the same time as your

disability, here it's a given) and be prepared, Medicare becomes primary ins.

over medicaid, but if you dont have medicaid go apply for it. Otherwise you're

looking at some bucks going out for your doc visits, tests, medicine, etc. With

my medicare/medicaid, I'm required to pay a " Spend-down " b/c my monthly income

of $1021 with child support and disability is too much (can you believe that,

too much!) so I have to pay $31/mo for medicaid to cover what medicare doesn't,

small price to pay considering the costs of medical services and such, but

still. The govt doesn't make it easy for anyone that is disabled to be able to

survive. Being 35 I thankfully had enough credits. Now, anyone that has a child

or children ask your local ss person about benefits for yo

ur child(ren). I can't explain why right now b/c I'm dead tired and too much to

go into, but I didnt get benefits for Kaylee, again hard to explain. Just ask

about it anyhow, doesn't hurt.

I'm gonna post a quick rundown of the medicare paperwork I got in the mail a

couple days ago that had my doc visit and also my emg test on it so you can see

how they pay. Please, if you (you meaning anyone reading this post) havent

already, apply for medicaid and make sure you tell them you are in the

process/waiting on disability. When you see the amts I could have been charged

for you'll see why, you don't want to go into dept b/c of medical bills, it's

sad the govt makes it so hard for us to live and it's not our fault we're not

physically able. Worst that happens is you get turned down, or you could be

eligible for $10 in food ea. month... not much but better than nothing. I get a

whole $19/mo for Kaylee and me, again b/c I earn too much money between

disability and child support. Ok yeah lol

Ok my dinner is cold, gonna pop it in the microwave and eat while its hot, will

be back in a few to post that medicare summary.

Connie

Re:

>

>

> ,

> I should have been approved a lot sooner too... but it's those out there

faking their boo-boo's that makes it harder for those of us who need and deserve

disability pay. I filed on my own and did not get my atty until I was turned

down the first time, she's the best in the area according to some people I had

talked with last year at a Disability Fair they have at the zoo here, here name

was recognized by many people... it's the govt that ties everything up, my file

was sitting on a desk for weeks and that person got chewed out as it was

supposed to have been worked on asap. Luckily when it got to the point of my

receiving my money, the guy at the local SS office was SOOOO nice and helpful in

checking to make sure all was moving as it should be and telling me when my

check would be direct deposited. My case also could have taken a lot longer if I

hadn't done a lot of work myself... as in making calls to my atty to update her

right after a doc appt, getting copies of my tes

ts and doc visits and faxing them right to her.. the time it would have taken

for the receptionist to receive the request, copy the papers, mail them to the

atty... a week at Least. I did it all in a days time, several times. My atty

even told me if I hadn't gotten info for her and we had to wait for this report

or that, it would have dragged out the case longer. Don't get your hopes too

high about your first check until they tell you what the amt is going to be. I

figured it all out one day going by what a lady at SS had told me, I was looking

at almost 20k... she failed to mention this and that and this... I received half

of what I had figured, so don't count on any amt unless you see it on paper from

SS. I'm not complaining at all tho, that half of what I figured just got me a

vehicle that I Really needed tho I had thought I may be able to get a newer one,

but mine is in such excellent shape for the year that I can't complain at all, I

got Very lucky in finding it. I had

also planned a trip for my daughter and I and was so disappointed when the

one lady had neglected to tell me about this cut and that etc. So, just don't

get your hopes up for spending this amt when it may end up being that amt you

actually see on paper.

> Good luck to you, I hope it comes through quickly, help out your atty an any

way you can, it makes a Huge difference.

> Connie

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hello to everyone,

i am going to italy for two weeks on june 4th.

my neurosurgeon wants me to take pain killers with me and i agree to that.

i have a bad history with pain killers going back about twenty years so they

scare me to death and i also don't know what's going on with drugs now.

so can anyone help me with suggestions please. i am afraid to go on this

trip without something. when the pain gets intense at home, at least i am at

home, but i don't want to ruin my trip (i am going on a sightseeing tour)

bec.

of pain. any suggestions? also, any experience with the pain patch? (not

the lidoderm one, this is the narcotic one). thanks to everyone. marsha

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Hi,all...I woke up this morning, and was in so much pain...the MRI I had

yesterday that I had yesterday showed that I had not 1..not 2,.but 7

bulging/herniated discs in the lumbar area of my spine..in fact, it incompasses

the entire lumbar spine plus S-1. The only thing they have me on is Ultram and

Skelaxon. I think I need to have a talk with my pain doc about this! Anyway,

your toughts and prayers mean a lot, and will pray for you all as well...TTYL,

Vicki

Nicki Sutton <nickisutton@...> wrote: Hi everyone,

This message is intended for anyone who lives with spina bifida or a spinal cord

injury and who uses continence care products to manage their bowel/bladder

routines. If this applies to you, please read on.

In order to identify what users of continence care products really need, I’m

seeking a small number of people who would be happy to take part in some

research for a leading medical device manufacturer.

All the process will involve is a short interview where we’d like you to

discuss your experiences of living with SB or SCI and using continence care

products. Obviously, we will compensate you for your time, either via a payment

direct to you, or to a charity of your choice. The interviews are discrete,

anonymous and undertaken in a professional manner.

To take part, respondents must be over 18 years of age.

If you think you might be interested, please send me an email at

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I hope I might hear from some of you soon.

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Hang in there and I will say a few prayers for you tonight.

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Hi,all...I woke up this morning, and was in so much pain...the MRI I had

yesterday that I had yesterday showed that I had not 1..not 2,.but 7

bulging/herniated discs in the lumbar area of my spine..in fact, it incompasses

the entire lumbar spine plus S-1. The only thing they have me on is Ultram and

Skelaxon. I think I need to have a talk with my pain doc about this! Anyway,

your toughts and prayers mean a lot, and will pray for you all as well...TTYL,

VickiNicki Sutton <nickisutton@...> wrote: Hi everyone,This message is

intended for anyone who lives with spina bifida or a spinal cord injury and who

uses continence care products to manage their bowel/bladder routines. If this

applies to you, please read on.In order to identify what users of continence

care products really need, I’m seeking a small number of people who would be

happy to take part in some research for a leading medical device

manufacturer.All the process will involve is a short interview where we’d like

you to discuss your experiences of living with SB or SCI and using continence

care products. Obviously, we will compensate you for your time, either via a

payment direct to you, or to a charity of your choice. The interviews are

discrete, anonymous and undertaken in a professional manner.To take part,

respondents must be over 18 years of age.If you think you might be interested,

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I'm sorry that you are suffering so, Vicki! You have my prayers and

thoughts!!! Please keep us posted on how you are doing!

>

> Hi,all...I woke up this morning, and was in so much pain...the MRI

I had yesterday that I had yesterday showed that I had not 1..not

2,.but 7 bulging/herniated discs in the lumbar area of my spine..in

fact, it incompasses the entire lumbar spine plus S-1. The only

thing they have me on is Ultram and Skelaxon. I think I need to

have a talk with my pain doc about this! Anyway, your toughts and

prayers mean a lot, and will pray for you all as well...TTYL, Vicki

>

> Nicki Sutton <nickisutton@...> wrote: Hi everyone,

> This message is intended for anyone who lives with spina bifida or

a spinal cord injury and who uses continence care products to manage

their bowel/bladder routines. If this applies to you, please read on.

> In order to identify what users of continence care products really

need, I’m seeking a small number of people who would be happy to

take part in some research for a leading medical device manufacturer.

> All the process will involve is a short interview where we’d like

you to discuss your experiences of living with SB or SCI and using

continence care products. Obviously, we will compensate you for your

time, either via a payment direct to you, or to a charity of your

choice. The interviews are discrete, anonymous and undertaken in a

professional manner.

> To take part, respondents must be over 18 years of age.

> If you think you might be interested, please send me an email at

nicki.sutton@... and I shall get back to you.

> I hope I might hear from some of you soon.

> All the best,

> Nicki

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This is my first post. Until last night I've had a gotta'-just-do-

what's-necessary-and-not-fuss attitude. I've got severe cervical

stenosis (or DDD). After having an MRI a month ago that showed a

worsening of my condition--and after having done PT and two types of

acupuncture--I researched neurosurgeons in my area and first consulted

one in DC (who wanted to do a posterior decompressive laminectomy.)

Yesterday, I went to s Hopkins where I saw a highly recommended

neurosurgeon who has operated successfully on two people I know

slightly. I knew I'd choose him to do whatever will be done. I liked

him almost immediately--not the usual arrogant surgeon. He said he

would leave my " crumby neck " alone, if it weren't for visible damage

to my spinal cord, which has already " tipped me over the edge

neurologically, " he said. Both my arms and shoulders hurt, hands are

clumsy, balance problems, jumpy reflexes. Before suggesting anything,

he said, he'd want to carefully study my MRI. (To complicate things,

my spinal column has a reverse curve.) He did indicate, however, that

fusion would be necessary from c2 to T2, whether he goes in from the

front or back and whether or not he tries to straighten my cervical

spine through traction prior to surgery. (He said that seldom works,

but who knows.) He will carefully examine my MRI next week and then

call me.

So, nothing's been decided, but for the first time I feel low. The

prospect of being filleted like a fish and, doubtless, having a lot of

pain for months afterward--that's if things go well... I feel I'll

never be the same. I have a lot of pain now, but it's familiar and

I've learned to live with it. It's the unknown and big changes that

worry me.

As recently as last night, I had a can-do attitude, was determined to

exercise twice as much as usual to prepare for surgery, eat lots of

protein, supplements. Blah, blah, blah. This morning, things look

darker (which doesn't mean I won't prepare, as I should, for surgery.)

On Apr 11, 2009, at 6:09 AM, Babbitt wrote:

,

I would advise you to speak with your PCP to try an anti-anxiety med

for a while. It helped me so much with those stresses and fears, and I

was able to come out from under the fog of worry and fear, and be an

active part of the solution. Buspar is great med for taking every day

to help decrease he anxiety. The low dose and short acting ones like

Ativan are good to add on to the Buspar when you need to, but usually

aren'y meant for daily use.

---

From: cathy mccarthy <bbhorsetack@...>

Subject: Re: and MRIs

spinal problems

Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 6:40 PM

THANK YOU DEB!

My Mom is not a smoker nor ever drank more than a half a wine cooler

at night. She is not overweight at all. Physically in good shape,

today they went " antique shopping " and my Mom rented a booth there

that she was planning on filling NEXT TUESDAY!!!!! ! AAAAKKKKK!!! !! I

put the " kabosh, as in NOOOOOO " on that. Monday she has a urine

culture at local hospital looking for any bacterial infections.

Tuesday my sister is supposed to fly in from Florida as a surprise to

see her. Wednesday, it is back to Catholic medical for the pre-op.

Friday, we leave here at home at 4:30 am to get there before 7...

surgery at 10. My Mom is like the " Eveready Bunny " .... keeps going and

going and going. ME I am a basket case. She needs both valves in her

heart replaced. The surgeon was very optimistic. Now I am just trying

to SLOW her down some before OPEN HEART SURGERY!!!!. I guess she

should be a lesson to allot of us. NEVER give up.... or whatever the

heck she is doing.

She is driving me crazy. This is the same woman that got dizzy

(probably because of her heart condition, which they did not pick up

at the time) and broke her hip as old ladies do last October. She went

thru surgery without a problem, recovered remarkably fast, so I hope

that is a good thing.

But anyway, thanks Deb. Nice to know what is gonna happen. AND I did

have to VENT a little :)

As far as for ME, I see a lawer on Monday (during all this.....) About

my disability case. Great timing...huh?

in NH

Re: and MRIs

, thank you for your input. I did decide not to do the MRI

" locally " at

this time. You are right. I do wish to see another Doc and they will

want

their own MRI. It is not like my disease is acute and needs immediate

treatment. It is nerve damage, I am sure. It has been there since

1990, just

now getting worse. I can wait a bit. Have to get my Mom thru her ordeal

first. (open heart surgery next week) I just wish your " Dr. Glazer "

wasn't

in the middle of Boston.... aaakkkk!.

in NH

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Relax, be nice to yourself. You have a good plan and it sounds like you have

done your homework. This is a lot to take in. Give it a little time. Please ask

questions as they come up, be patient and give yourself a little time to adapt

to the sheer out of control, hugeness of it all.

May the peace of Christ be with you!

Lexie

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Thank you so much, Lexie.

I hope the weekend brings you kindness and new hope

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On Apr 11, 2009, at 2:11 PM, " Lexie " <lexie@...> wrote:

> ,

> Relax, be nice to yourself. You have a good plan and it sounds

> like you have done your homework. This is a lot to take in. Give it

> a little time. Please ask questions as they come up, be patient and

> give yourself a little time to adapt to the sheer out of control,

> hugeness of it all.

>

> May the peace of Christ be with you!

> Lexie

>

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Hi

Welcome to the group, you will find a lot of very experienced and knowledgeable

people here, including a few nurses, and I think even an MD.

We all know what you are talking about when it comes to pain, seeing dark

moments in our lives, and the one pride killer of all having to change our lives

due to chronic severe pain, but we are still human and the one thing I do know,

if nothing else, is we always persevere, and become stronger then ever. We are

special because you can't take a normal person, with no problems, and put them

in our situation, the pain and suffering alone would drive them insane. So just

remember how special you really are, you can take a lot more than a normal

person can.

That being said, It is terrible that you are going to have to have such an awful

surgery. I know it's scary, as I have been there 3 times on my spine so far, and

not looking forward to anymore. Being filleted, as you so elegantly put it, is

a  nightmare in itself. Rest assured that we will be here pulling for you, and

any question you may have, just ask, like I said there is a lot of professional

experienced people that will answer you, just give them time, because we are all

suffering from the same kind of problems here.

Wishing you great success with what ever you choose to do.

 

Bama,

 

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

                                                                            

________________________________

From: andrea dean <aodean@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:00:00 AM

Subject: Re:

This is my first post. Until last night I've had a gotta'-just- do-

what's-necessary- and-not-fuss attitude. I've got severe cervical

stenosis (or DDD). After having an MRI a month ago that showed a

worsening of my condition--and after having done PT and two types of

acupuncture- -I researched neurosurgeons in my area and first consulted

one in DC (who wanted to do a posterior decompressive laminectomy. )

Yesterday, I went to s Hopkins where I saw a highly recommended

neurosurgeon who has operated successfully on two people I know

slightly. I knew I'd choose him to do whatever will be done. I liked

him almost immediately- -not the usual arrogant surgeon. He said he

would leave my " crumby neck " alone, if it weren't for visible damage

to my spinal cord, which has already " tipped me over the edge

neurologically, " he said. Both my arms and shoulders hurt, hands are

clumsy, balance problems, jumpy reflexes. Before suggesting anything,

he said, he'd want to carefully study my MRI.. (To complicate things,

my spinal column has a reverse curve.) He did indicate, however, that

fusion would be necessary from c2 to T2, whether he goes in from the

front or back and whether or not he tries to straighten my cervical

spine through traction prior to surgery. (He said that seldom works,

but who knows.) He will carefully examine my MRI next week and then

call me.

So, nothing's been decided, but for the first time I feel low. The

prospect of being filleted like a fish and, doubtless, having a lot of

pain for months afterward--that' s if things go well... I feel I'll

never be the same. I have a lot of pain now, but it's familiar and

I've learned to live with it. It's the unknown and big changes that

worry me.

As recently as last night, I had a can-do attitude, was determined to

exercise twice as much as usual to prepare for surgery, eat lots of

protein, supplements. Blah, blah, blah. This morning, things look

darker (which doesn't mean I won't prepare, as I should, for surgery.)

On Apr 11, 2009, at 6:09 AM, Babbitt wrote:

,

I would advise you to speak with your PCP to try an anti-anxiety med

for a while. It helped me so much with those stresses and fears, and I

was able to come out from under the fog of worry and fear, and be an

active part of the solution. Buspar is great med for taking every day

to help decrease he anxiety. The low dose and short acting ones like

Ativan are good to add on to the Buspar when you need to, but usually

aren'y meant for daily use.

---

From: cathy mccarthy <bbhorsetack@ roadrunner. com>

Subject: Re: and MRIs

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 6:40 PM

THANK YOU DEB!

My Mom is not a smoker nor ever drank more than a half a wine cooler

at night. She is not overweight at all. Physically in good shape,

today they went " antique shopping " and my Mom rented a booth there

that she was planning on filling NEXT TUESDAY!!!!! ! AAAAKKKKK!!! !! I

put the " kabosh, as in NOOOOOO " on that. Monday she has a urine

culture at local hospital looking for any bacterial infections.

Tuesday my sister is supposed to fly in from Florida as a surprise to

see her. Wednesday, it is back to Catholic medical for the pre-op.

Friday, we leave here at home at 4:30 am to get there before 7...

surgery at 10. My Mom is like the " Eveready Bunny " .... keeps going and

going and going. ME I am a basket case. She needs both valves in her

heart replaced. The surgeon was very optimistic. Now I am just trying

to SLOW her down some before OPEN HEART SURGERY!!!!. I guess she

should be a lesson to allot of us. NEVER give up.... or whatever the

heck she is doing.

She is driving me crazy. This is the same woman that got dizzy

(probably because of her heart condition, which they did not pick up

at the time) and broke her hip as old ladies do last October. She went

thru surgery without a problem, recovered remarkably fast, so I hope

that is a good thing.

But anyway, thanks Deb. Nice to know what is gonna happen. AND I did

have to VENT a little :)

As far as for ME, I see a lawer on Monday (during all this.....) About

my disability case. Great timing...huh?

in NH

Re: and MRIs

, thank you for your input. I did decide not to do the MRI

" locally " at

this time. You are right. I do wish to see another Doc and they will

want

their own MRI. It is not like my disease is acute and needs immediate

treatment. It is nerve damage, I am sure. It has been there since

1990, just

now getting worse. I can wait a bit. Have to get my Mom thru her ordeal

first. (open heart surgery next week) I just wish your " Dr.. Glazer "

wasn't

in the middle of Boston.... aaakkkk!.

in NH

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Dear ,

Thank you for your great kindness. I'm feeling a bit better this

morning, realizing for one thing that good, dear people (my husband,

siblings, adult children and step-children) rely on me to be a tough

(albeit gentle) old bird.

Where are you in Alabama, anywhere near Newbern and the Rural Studio?

Never heard of it? Nevermind.

Thank you once more,

On Apr 12, 2009, at 9:03 AM, Lambert wrote:

Hi

Welcome to the group, you will find a lot of very experienced and

knowledgeable people here, including a few nurses, and I think even an

MD.

We all know what you are talking about when it comes to pain, seeing

dark moments in our lives, and the one pride killer of all having to

change our lives due to chronic severe pain, but we are still human

and the one thing I do know, if nothing else, is we always persevere,

and become stronger then ever. We are special because you can't take a

normal person, with no problems, and put them in our situation, the

pain and suffering alone would drive them insane. So just remember how

special you really are, you can take a lot more than a normal person

can.

That being said, It is terrible that you are going to have to have

such an awful surgery. I know it's scary, as I have been there 3 times

on my spine so far, and not looking forward to anymore. Being

filleted, as you so elegantly put it, is a nightmare in itself. Rest

assured that we will be here pulling for you, and any question you may

have, just ask, like I said there is a lot of professional experienced

people that will answer you, just give them time, because we are all

suffering from the same kind of problems here.

Wishing you great success with what ever you choose to do.

Bama,

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of

sagacity, but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his.

Thurber

________________________________

From: andrea dean <aodean@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:00:00 AM

Subject: Re:

This is my first post. Until last night I've had a gotta'-just- do-

what's-necessary- and-not-fuss attitude. I've got severe cervical

stenosis (or DDD). After having an MRI a month ago that showed a

worsening of my condition--and after having done PT and two types of

acupuncture- -I researched neurosurgeons in my area and first consulted

one in DC (who wanted to do a posterior decompressive laminectomy. )

Yesterday, I went to s Hopkins where I saw a highly recommended

neurosurgeon who has operated successfully on two people I know

slightly. I knew I'd choose him to do whatever will be done. I liked

him almost immediately- -not the usual arrogant surgeon. He said he

would leave my " crumby neck " alone, if it weren't for visible damage

to my spinal cord, which has already " tipped me over the edge

neurologically, " he said. Both my arms and shoulders hurt, hands are

clumsy, balance problems, jumpy reflexes. Before suggesting anything,

he said, he'd want to carefully study my MRI.. (To complicate things,

my spinal column has a reverse curve.) He did indicate, however, that

fusion would be necessary from c2 to T2, whether he goes in from the

front or back and whether or not he tries to straighten my cervical

spine through traction prior to surgery. (He said that seldom works,

but who knows.) He will carefully examine my MRI next week and then

call me.

So, nothing's been decided, but for the first time I feel low. The

prospect of being filleted like a fish and, doubtless, having a lot of

pain for months afterward--that' s if things go well... I feel I'll

never be the same. I have a lot of pain now, but it's familiar and

I've learned to live with it. It's the unknown and big changes that

worry me.

As recently as last night, I had a can-do attitude, was determined to

exercise twice as much as usual to prepare for surgery, eat lots of

protein, supplements. Blah, blah, blah. This morning, things look

darker (which doesn't mean I won't prepare, as I should, for surgery.)

On Apr 11, 2009, at 6:09 AM, Babbitt wrote:

,

I would advise you to speak with your PCP to try an anti-anxiety med

for a while. It helped me so much with those stresses and fears, and I

was able to come out from under the fog of worry and fear, and be an

active part of the solution. Buspar is great med for taking every day

to help decrease he anxiety. The low dose and short acting ones like

Ativan are good to add on to the Buspar when you need to, but usually

aren'y meant for daily use.

---

From: cathy mccarthy <bbhorsetack@ roadrunner. com>

Subject: Re: and MRIs

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 6:40 PM

THANK YOU DEB!

My Mom is not a smoker nor ever drank more than a half a wine cooler

at night. She is not overweight at all. Physically in good shape,

today they went " antique shopping " and my Mom rented a booth there

that she was planning on filling NEXT TUESDAY!!!!! ! AAAAKKKKK!!! !! I

put the " kabosh, as in NOOOOOO " on that. Monday she has a urine

culture at local hospital looking for any bacterial infections.

Tuesday my sister is supposed to fly in from Florida as a surprise to

see her. Wednesday, it is back to Catholic medical for the pre-op.

Friday, we leave here at home at 4:30 am to get there before 7...

surgery at 10. My Mom is like the " Eveready Bunny " .... keeps going and

going and going. ME I am a basket case. She needs both valves in her

heart replaced. The surgeon was very optimistic. Now I am just trying

to SLOW her down some before OPEN HEART SURGERY!!!!. I guess she

should be a lesson to allot of us. NEVER give up.... or whatever the

heck she is doing.

She is driving me crazy. This is the same woman that got dizzy

(probably because of her heart condition, which they did not pick up

at the time) and broke her hip as old ladies do last October. She went

thru surgery without a problem, recovered remarkably fast, so I hope

that is a good thing.

But anyway, thanks Deb. Nice to know what is gonna happen. AND I did

have to VENT a little :)

As far as for ME, I see a lawer on Monday (during all this.....) About

my disability case. Great timing...huh?

in NH

Re: and MRIs

, thank you for your input. I did decide not to do the MRI

" locally " at

this time. You are right. I do wish to see another Doc and they will

want

their own MRI. It is not like my disease is acute and needs immediate

treatment. It is nerve damage, I am sure. It has been there since

1990, just

now getting worse. I can wait a bit. Have to get my Mom thru her ordeal

first. (open heart surgery next week) I just wish your " Dr.. Glazer "

wasn't

in the middle of Boston.... aaakkkk!.

in NH

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,

I am on the Gulf Coast, about 5 mile north of Orange Beach. Don't remember if

you indicated your location. It's hot here already, been experiencing all

the spring fever stuff, and have had to cut my grass twice already. The fever

has effect, or should I say infected my crew of dogs, so they are going crazy on

my outside nowadays. But the cold weather is almost gone, thankfully, but I know

I will regret that statement here in another month when it really gets hot. The

storms are what get me now, like my grandpa use to say, " I can feel it in my

bones " lol

 

Bama,

 

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

                                                                            

________________________________

From: andrea dean <aodean@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:05:00 AM

Subject: Re:

Dear ,

Thank you for your great kindness. I'm feeling a bit better this

morning, realizing for one thing that good, dear people (my husband,

siblings, adult children and step-children) rely on me to be a tough

(albeit gentle) old bird.

Where are you in Alabama, anywhere near Newbern and the Rural Studio?

Never heard of it? Nevermind.

Thank you once more,

On Apr 12, 2009, at 9:03 AM, Lambert wrote:

Hi

Welcome to the group, you will find a lot of very experienced and

knowledgeable people here, including a few nurses, and I think even an

MD.

We all know what you are talking about when it comes to pain, seeing

dark moments in our lives, and the one pride killer of all having to

change our lives due to chronic severe pain, but we are still human

and the one thing I do know, if nothing else, is we always persevere,

and become stronger then ever. We are special because you can't take a

normal person, with no problems, and put them in our situation, the

pain and suffering alone would drive them insane. So just remember how

special you really are, you can take a lot more than a normal person

can.

That being said, It is terrible that you are going to have to have

such an awful surgery. I know it's scary, as I have been there 3 times

on my spine so far, and not looking forward to anymore. Being

filleted, as you so elegantly put it, is a nightmare in itself. Rest

assured that we will be here pulling for you, and any question you may

have, just ask, like I said there is a lot of professional experienced

people that will answer you, just give them time, because we are all

suffering from the same kind of problems here.

Wishing you great success with what ever you choose to do.

Bama,

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of

sagacity, but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his.

Thurber

____________ _________ _________ __

From: andrea dean <aodeanerols (DOT) com>

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:00:00 AM

Subject: Re:

This is my first post. Until last night I've had a gotta'-just- do-

what's-necessary- and-not-fuss attitude. I've got severe cervical

stenosis (or DDD). After having an MRI a month ago that showed a

worsening of my condition--and after having done PT and two types of

acupuncture- -I researched neurosurgeons in my area and first consulted

one in DC (who wanted to do a posterior decompressive laminectomy. )

Yesterday, I went to s Hopkins where I saw a highly recommended

neurosurgeon who has operated successfully on two people I know

slightly. I knew I'd choose him to do whatever will be done. I liked

him almost immediately- -not the usual arrogant surgeon. He said he

would leave my " crumby neck " alone, if it weren't for visible damage

to my spinal cord, which has already " tipped me over the edge

neurologically, " he said. Both my arms and shoulders hurt, hands are

clumsy, balance problems, jumpy reflexes. Before suggesting anything,

he said, he'd want to carefully study my MRI.. (To complicate things,

my spinal column has a reverse curve.) He did indicate, however, that

fusion would be necessary from c2 to T2, whether he goes in from the

front or back and whether or not he tries to straighten my cervical

spine through traction prior to surgery. (He said that seldom works,

but who knows.) He will carefully examine my MRI next week and then

call me.

So, nothing's been decided, but for the first time I feel low. The

prospect of being filleted like a fish and, doubtless, having a lot of

pain for months afterward--that' s if things go well... I feel I'll

never be the same. I have a lot of pain now, but it's familiar and

I've learned to live with it. It's the unknown and big changes that

worry me.

As recently as last night, I had a can-do attitude, was determined to

exercise twice as much as usual to prepare for surgery, eat lots of

protein, supplements. Blah, blah, blah. This morning, things look

darker (which doesn't mean I won't prepare, as I should, for surgery.)

On Apr 11, 2009, at 6:09 AM, Babbitt wrote:

,

I would advise you to speak with your PCP to try an anti-anxiety med

for a while. It helped me so much with those stresses and fears, and I

was able to come out from under the fog of worry and fear, and be an

active part of the solution. Buspar is great med for taking every day

to help decrease he anxiety. The low dose and short acting ones like

Ativan are good to add on to the Buspar when you need to, but usually

aren'y meant for daily use.

---

From: cathy mccarthy <bbhorsetack@ roadrunner. com>

Subject: Re: and MRIs

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 6:40 PM

THANK YOU DEB!

My Mom is not a smoker nor ever drank more than a half a wine cooler

at night. She is not overweight at all. Physically in good shape,

today they went " antique shopping " and my Mom rented a booth there

that she was planning on filling NEXT TUESDAY!!!!! ! AAAAKKKKK!!! !! I

put the " kabosh, as in NOOOOOO " on that. Monday she has a urine

culture at local hospital looking for any bacterial infections.

Tuesday my sister is supposed to fly in from Florida as a surprise to

see her. Wednesday, it is back to Catholic medical for the pre-op.

Friday, we leave here at home at 4:30 am to get there before 7...

surgery at 10. My Mom is like the " Eveready Bunny " .... keeps going and

going and going. ME I am a basket case. She needs both valves in her

heart replaced. The surgeon was very optimistic. Now I am just trying

to SLOW her down some before OPEN HEART SURGERY!!!!. I guess she

should be a lesson to allot of us. NEVER give up.... or whatever the

heck she is doing.

She is driving me crazy. This is the same woman that got dizzy

(probably because of her heart condition, which they did not pick up

at the time) and broke her hip as old ladies do last October. She went

thru surgery without a problem, recovered remarkably fast, so I hope

that is a good thing.

But anyway, thanks Deb. Nice to know what is gonna happen. AND I did

have to VENT a little :)

As far as for ME, I see a lawer on Monday (during all this.....) About

my disability case. Great timing...huh?

in NH

Re: and MRIs

, thank you for your input. I did decide not to do the MRI

" locally " at

this time. You are right. I do wish to see another Doc and they will

want

their own MRI. It is not like my disease is acute and needs immediate

treatment. It is nerve damage, I am sure. It has been there since

1990, just

now getting worse. I can wait a bit. Have to get my Mom thru her ordeal

first. (open heart surgery next week) I just wish your " Dr.. Glazer "

wasn't

in the middle of Boston..... aaakkkk!.

in NH

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Hey . you said you LIVE on the gulf coast.... of what??? Florida?????

Austrailia????? HMMMMM ... cause I would like to move someplace where it does

not SNOW!!! I AM TIRED OF SNOW.... I really like North Florida so far. Have to

be rural cause my horses and dogs have gotta go too.......

in NH

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Hi

boy I can relate to that, warm winters.... they seem to get worse on the body

every year...cold and damp...no wonder old folks move south or west when they

can...

wendy

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Hey . you said you LIVE on the gulf coast.... of what??? Florida?????

Austrailia????? HMMMMM ... cause I would like to move someplace where it does

not SNOW!!! I AM TIRED OF SNOW.... I really like North Florida so far. Have to

be rural cause my horses and dogs have gotta go too.......

in NH

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Gulf of Mexico!!. I use to live in Northwest Florida, but this is where I grew

up. I live in a small town, very rural area, farming community.I moved up north

to Canada for a while, when I meet my DW, and we decided to move down here. I

loved it there myself, but my ole achy bones won't let me live there lol

 

Bama,

 

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

                                                                            

________________________________

From: cathy mccarthy <bbhorsetack@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 6:47:30 PM

Subject: Re:

Hey . you said you LIVE on the gulf coast.... of what??? Florida?????

Austrailia?? ??? HMMMMM ... cause I would like to move someplace where it does

not SNOW!!! I AM TIRED OF SNOW.... I really like North Florida so far. Have to

be rural cause my horses and dogs have gotta go too.......

in NH

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OH!! That is in Alabama, Due north of Orange Beach Alabama.

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From: Lambert <glambert28@...>

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Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:35:33 PM

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Gulf of Mexico!!. I use to live in Northwest Florida, but this is where I grew

up. I live in a small town, very rural area, farming community.I moved up north

to Canada for a while, when I meet my DW, and we decided to move down here. I

loved it there myself, but my ole achy bones won't let me live there lol

 

Bama,

 

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

                                                                            

____________ _________ _________ __

From: cathy mccarthy <bbhorsetack@ roadrunner. com>

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 6:47:30 PM

Subject: Re:

Hey . you said you LIVE on the gulf coast.... of what??? Florida?????

Austrailia?? ??? HMMMMM ... cause I would like to move someplace where it does

not SNOW!!! I AM TIRED OF SNOW.... I really like North Florida so far. Have to

be rural cause my horses and dogs have gotta go too.......

in NH

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I wasnt able to attach the 2 files . I reecived a postcard from the spine

institute for a free seminar in Syracuse NY Apr 12 & 13th .

If anyone is interested in going,Email me and I will send the file directly to

you . Thanks .

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Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 1:44:34 PM

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Got the attached in the mail . thought some of you may be interested .

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We are thinking of getting a new mattress for our bed, our mattress is so tall

cause its a bed for my spine, but its very old, and very tall over four feet

tall and my life mate is only five feet and one inch tall but our ten year old

dog is having a hard time getting up on the bed, yes he sleeps at our feet. we

have had him since the moment of his birth. So, we are thinking of getting a

new regular mattress with a memory foam four inch topper. any thoughts?

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